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Komentáře • 73

  • @Permanent_Scalez
    @Permanent_Scalez  Před 8 měsíci +4

    Also to specify my next video isnt coming out next year, that was a joke.😭😭

  • @regretgames5580
    @regretgames5580 Před 8 měsíci +10

    Gotta hard disagree about saying Archie Sonic is weaker than game Sonic, although game Sonic does have some better matchups due to the nature of their powers, Archie is generally stronger.

    • @zander513
      @zander513 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Game sonic after frontiers decimated ultra sonic and one shots him

    • @MuhammadAhmad-ph5ro
      @MuhammadAhmad-ph5ro Před 3 měsíci +2

      No game is stronger.

  • @perfectbendy1948
    @perfectbendy1948 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I honestly have Sonic sooo high its so hard to believe.
    Yet Goku scales nowhere near it 💀

    • @afrinsyed1586
      @afrinsyed1586 Před 4 měsíci +3

      The owner of sonic admits Archie sonic loses to Goku.

    • @afrinsyed1586
      @afrinsyed1586 Před 4 měsíci +3

      How are you gonna prove the owner wrong about his own character? ☠️

  • @Tomsupreme2022
    @Tomsupreme2022 Před 8 měsíci +3

    W

  • @que_teimporta0216
    @que_teimporta0216 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The narrator be capping too 😂 Whis would've been concerned if Goku was going to destroy the universe, since he was concern when Beerus and Champa did it

  • @vuphamminh7803
    @vuphamminh7803 Před 8 měsíci +6

    So how the toxic fan doing?
    Like love and support from VN by the way

  • @que_teimporta0216
    @que_teimporta0216 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Why are db fans saying Koyama is back and Toriyama told him that he is reliable?

  • @TemplarInParadise762
    @TemplarInParadise762 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I cannot comprehend why Koyama is still treated as some Voice of God when he is unemployed and does not work at Toei anymore.

  • @zenith-gg9tl
    @zenith-gg9tl Před 6 měsíci

    may i ask when it was stated enerjak absorbed power from the chaos force?

  • @vuphamminh7803
    @vuphamminh7803 Před 7 měsíci

    I have a request if you okey with it
    Aurelion Sol from league of legends
    Please 🙏
    My boy dragon is getting despise by multiple fandom

  • @Fax_Scales
    @Fax_Scales Před 2 měsíci

    Just because the hyperbolic time chamber was stated to be a different dimension that dosent debunk the statement of the other world transcending dimensions
    As the scan you provided was a misstranslation and the actual scan says the other world transcends the dimensionality of the other world, not just dimensions
    2.lacking the concept of time and space wouldn't be outer immediately bit if you combine that with the proper translation then it's obvious that the otherworld is above the concept of dimensionality of the verse
    3. Even if the metaphysical scans are from a board game, it would still be cannon along nothing contradicts it.

  • @yourordinarystranger366
    @yourordinarystranger366 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Archie sonic is undeniably the strongest version of sonic and it's close if it's base archie vs ultra instinct goku

  • @AgentAndy954
    @AgentAndy954 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Goku solos the verse

    • @Permanent_Scalez
      @Permanent_Scalez  Před 8 měsíci +5

      🤷‍♂ when you can prove that ill be there

    • @gregkareem9824
      @gregkareem9824 Před 8 měsíci +3

      ​@@Permanent_ScalezArchie sonic got debunked to low complex muti and dbs goku is outerveral or higher

    • @Permanent_Scalez
      @Permanent_Scalez  Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@gregkareem9824 once again if you wanna prove dbs has that scaling discord.gg/45Bbd8e2Fz my discord is open

    • @MuhammadAhmad-ph5ro
      @MuhammadAhmad-ph5ro Před 3 měsíci

      ​@gregkareem9824 sonic is easily Hyperversal-Outerversal.
      Goku is universal-low outerversal at best

  • @AArchetype..
    @AArchetype.. Před 7 měsíci +1

    Okay, Otherworld is stated to be metaphysical, metaphysics related to transcending the laws of nature (Also Space, time, causality ect.) Otherworld being Metaphysical is already enough to get it to Outer.

  • @thesarcasticartist782
    @thesarcasticartist782 Před 3 měsíci

    Both 5D.

  • @MikaeruDaiTenshi
    @MikaeruDaiTenshi Před 8 měsíci +1

    You already lost me within the first 5 seconds.
    Sonic isn't the fastest being (thing?) alive. First of all, the highest speed Sonic could reach was the speed of light, which he can't hold for long, and his usual high-speed is far lower than that.
    DC'S Flash reaches 17 times the speed of light.
    Now, for Dragonball Characters, we don't really KNOW how fast they actually are, only that they ARE fast. Even back in Dragon Ball, the original series, Goku managed to steal Roshi's sunglasses to not be affected by Tien's Solar Flare, which is a light-attack, therefore should work at lightspeed. This would imply he already could be faster than light for a short time.
    Or thinking about the feat of Roshi catching dozen/hundreds of bullets shot at him, without missing a single one. - Sure, bullets are not traveling at lightspeed, but being able to catch them shot in succession by multiple guns with ease, gives him at least the ability to fight really fast, not necessarily travel at that speed.
    And their speed only gets faster in DBZ and way faster in DBS.
    Also, it's a bit of a joke you're taking google-translated posts as your source.... I mean, it literally translated dragon balls into dragon rolls. Who knows what else was translated wrong?
    And yes, Toriyama is forgetting tons of stuff. And in terms of DBZ/GT/Super being "canon" or not, is a whole different debate.
    If you consider only the Manga to be canon, you might be right, if you're talking about anime canon, I think you're terribly wrong.
    While Toriyama wanted to end the story with DBZ (which is the reason why he gave it the title Z, as it's the last letter in the alphabet) - DBZ was still a work of Toriyama, as most of the DBZ Material came from his Manga, which he was still working on, while Toei also added additional stuff.
    So, what's with GT and Super? GT is, according to Toriyama "a grand side story of the original dragon ball", a side-story is not necessarily canon or non-canon, in the case of GT, thanks to DB-Super, we can say it's probably an alternate timeline like Future Trunks' Timeline, but different. Either Way, Toriyama even designed the main cast and spaceships, and oversaw the production of the series.
    As for DB Super, it's way more clear, since Toriyama is credited as original creator and responsible for the story and character design concepts.
    And, speaking canon, let's not forget, Sonic's comic, which was shown in the video at ~13:00 isn't even written by Sonic's creators, so, does this make it canon or not? Sonic had multiple authors, just like DC and Marvel Characters. You can't say Dragonball's Source X/Y is not canon, but then saying everything written von Sonic is Canon.
    Just like when people look at Super Mario games claiming he's faster than light, and super strong because he did this in that game. Even thou those feats are only true in said game and in non other before or after.
    But the end, the end of this video is the best.
    Talking, what, 10,5 minutes about how Dragon Ball licences material doesn't know what they're talking about, and then ~4 Minutes of that one comic give Sonic special powers, so that's Sonic wins easily.
    To be fair, I fail to understand what "5-, 6-, or even more -dimensional means, especially in terms of powerlevel and fighting abilities. As far as I know, dimensional is a form of character depth, and got nothing to do about power.

    • @Permanent_Scalez
      @Permanent_Scalez  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Everything g here gets invalidated as I show a sca. Off sonic moving in stopped time and were you are getting the notion that sonic can't maintain the speed of light is beyond me🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @amielies81
      @amielies81 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@Permanent_ScalezThere are thing called version

    • @Permanent_Scalez
      @Permanent_Scalez  Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@amielies81 what?

    • @amielies81
      @amielies81 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Permanent_Scalez took u 9 day to reply?
      Also archie sonic is stronger than games sonic who tell u games sonic is stronger than archie sonic lmao are u even know how to scale if not delete ur channel now

  • @GlenroyReneau
    @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +5

    W Archie Is Fodder
    But Game Sonic is the Goat 🍷🍷🍷🗿🗿🗿
    Game Sonic Base>>>>>>gayku MUI

    • @GlenroyReneau
      @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +2

      @ZXAdvent Im not a Goku fan i only have him as a pfp
      +archie got debunked so he is fodder+
      Game Sonic is Irrelevant layers Boundless 😭😭🙏🙏

    • @GlenroyReneau
      @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj Games didint got debunked only the archie comics 🤷🤷🤷

    • @GlenroyReneau
      @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +1

      @ZXAdvent Yeah i know in Base Archie Sonic is 11D
      Super sonic is around 20D or some shit

    • @GlenroyReneau
      @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj Sega even confirmed in the games
      Solaris Was stronger than Archie sonic+
      Super dimensional being

    • @GlenroyReneau
      @GlenroyReneau Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj Super dimensions does scale ls scale somewhere and is above Dimensional
      Almost close to hyper-dimensional
      Solaris was going to erease everything in the sonic universe and the baseline
      Is Extraversal+
      😭😭😎
      So Solaris Was a Infinite dimensional being
      He viewed the sonic verse as Fiction wtf bro 🤷🤷🤷

  • @kakyoinnoriaki8052
    @kakyoinnoriaki8052 Před 8 měsíci

    Man, ignoring spacetime has no value even a useful application of character strength 12A ballshit

  • @kakyoinnoriaki8052
    @kakyoinnoriaki8052 Před 8 měsíci +1

    L goku is Infinite 1s Transcendent

  • @malikmcfarlane6060
    @malikmcfarlane6060 Před 8 měsíci

    Ok goku scales beyond 5D as the mortal world has super dimensions which would make it 5D, not even including the afterlife.

    • @malikmcfarlane6060
      @malikmcfarlane6060 Před 8 měsíci

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj yes they are as the definition for the kanji states they are beyond higher dimensions, mortal world has transcendental dimensions like the afterlife.

    • @malikmcfarlane6060
      @malikmcfarlane6060 Před 8 měsíci

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj Mortal world is infinite and contains multiple universal realms which have their own separate space times so 4D.
      And the afterlife scan uses the term "transcendental" meaning it's a higher dimension and non-corporeal. Also there are other scans from rpgs and guides saying it transcends the dimensions of the mortal world metaphysically and the astral world including this so-called hell world, transcends the concept that is time and space.

    • @malikmcfarlane6060
      @malikmcfarlane6060 Před 8 měsíci

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sj Mortal world is 5D due to hyperspaces which are 4D and superdimensions existing also i already explained how the afterlife is both a spiritual realm and a higher dimension.
      Yes it lacks the concept of time but there are also other guides saying it transcends the concept of space and time.

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 7 měsíci

      @Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sjtranslation: “um, nuh uh”

    • @Rhetorical_Ife
      @Rhetorical_Ife Před 7 měsíci +1

      ⁠@Averagespidarenjoyer-lr5sjThe Otherworld is a transcendental realm, but this doesn’t automatically or only refer to a spiritual sense, and the thing is because the translation also says that the Otherworld transcends dimensions that cannot be perceived from the human world. This means that there’s different interpretations besides just transcendental in this specific context meaning spiritual or non physical. This is not even including the fact that both the words transcendental and transcendent stem from the Latin word “transcendere”, which means to go beyond or across. The same exact definition as, you guessed it, transcend. So yeah, that point becomes null when faced when conflicting evidence that immediately disproves of your argument.