@@Permanent_Scalezto be fair Xeno Goku imo may beat LN or WN rimuru, xeno feats and abilities are crazy. And holy shit comp goku is prac boundless, makes me wonder how boundless comp rimuru is
@@uzookafor8721 ignore the nasuverse goku downplaying goons at least you know goku scaled higher you aren't a lowballer like these other folks lol Goku alone is stronger then someone who can destroy infinite timeliness and dimensions
@@christianwhite8877 boy you crazy, that would mean kratos is more powerful than dr strange. Classic Strange is a 3d beign who has had multiversal to hyperversal feats. Goku is 3d beign but his raw power is 7d and above. Dimensionality can be complicated and easy sometimes.
There's an important difference with Dr strange in this regard. Classic Dr strange is the original Dr strange. This means all versions of dr strange rely on the existence of the classic Dr strange. This in turn means the existence of classic Dr strange can scale much higher than 3 dimensional. With goku. He can't destroy or even affect zeno's realm in any meaningful way. And zeno's realm only scales to 7 to 8 dimensional at highest
Kratos' consistent scaling is infinite 4D to 6D Goku's consistent scaling is 4D to Infinite 5D With both having infinite to immeasurable speed I think kratos' immeasurable speed is more consistent than goku's
I do get that Kratos is powerful coz of the lore but what really bugs me is the GoW cosmology, i always keep in mind that cosmology takes a vital role when it comes to scaling characters. Bruno velasquez stated: - there arent multiple universes in GoW, only regional divides - GoW mythologies are just in one planet, different geographical regions (countries) - travel stone allows you to cut the distance of travel and kratos had to travel greece to scandinavia - All Gods and Mythologies are separated geographically Cory Barlog stated - All the mythologies exist on the same planet and pop up in different geographic location" Matt sophos stated: - All Myths exist in the same world, rather than a sci-fi dimensionality If these are stated then the highest power scale in GoW is universal, which is kratos scale due to beating gods as powerful as the big bang. Though the lore really sounded like its beyond universal/multi-dimensional , my guess is that's how GoW characters/games/whatever viewed or perceived the world in a universal scale...there way of saying plane of existence means geographical regions. So in conclusion I don't believe kratos is even near to outerversal scale. And I think Goku takes the W since he's capable of destroying a dragon ball universe which 3-5 times larger than our universe.
Just because a character 'can' scale to outerversal doesn't actually mean they really are outerversal. Also those universe's transcend time and have dimensions, it's easily 6 dimensional regardless of the amount of universe's
We know you love god of war but that doesn't mean his weak he is!!! think straight Goku could just punch him dead and Goku has been hit with many types of material and he doesn't feel nothing
@@Permanent_Scalez dawg Goku has fought gods right and kratos but Goku is way stronger strength Goku speed Goku flight Goku potential Goku iq Goku fighting iq kratos
To be clear i dont really agree with the 5d scaling completely for goku so yeah.
I agree with you about that. There's not really much to suggest goku is 5 dimensional or higher, especially without any evidence that can debunk it
It doesn't work for canon Goku at all. I could accept that for Heroes, but then you're stepping out of the canon boundary.
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Number 1 Goku scales higher then 5d
Number 2. Kratos is tree level so goku automically wins
1 that's a multi dimensional tree.
2 goku only has 5 dimensional ap.
3 goku only is 4 dimensional at highest
That is the answer about Goku. This is important in the video because most people are misunderstood.
W take but there are multiple statements saying the dbs verse is not infinite but W
I saw someone say Kratos is Outerversal. They don't know how to scale GoW.
exactly
@@Permanent_Scalez They use fake scans cropped from GoW 2018 the Novel, Gow 2018, and from Ragnarok. It's ridiculous.
@@Permanent_Scalez kratos transcends the concept of time and space thats what i only know
Goku can deafeat kratos because kratos is low complex multiversal and goku is high complex multiversal
Hey can you help me with a toxic dragon ball fan? He/she said tensura WN isn’t canon and said rimuru can’t beat normal goku then bring xeno goku in
Whats there name?
@@Permanent_Scalez it in a youtube short about seraphim goku vs light novel rimuru from Cypher.Exe channel
The toxic fan name are mohanded exedell
@@vuphamminh7803 ok ill check
@@Permanent_Scalezto be fair Xeno Goku imo may beat LN or WN rimuru, xeno feats and abilities are crazy. And holy shit comp goku is prac boundless, makes me wonder how boundless comp rimuru is
So he chooses khamehame or ki blast Orrrr one punch
needle level vs tree level, very obvious who negs
Lmao
Speaking as a scaler of both, kratos slams horribly
I believe Goku is 4D, there isn't 5D yet until we see his feats about 5D. So, Kratos still wins.
Goku has 7d attack potency, he has more raw power than kratos.
Raw power doesn't change goku's dimensional status. Even if goku did somehow have 7d ap
@@uzookafor8721 ignore the nasuverse goku downplaying goons at least you know goku scaled higher you aren't a lowballer like these other folks lol
Goku alone is stronger then someone who can destroy infinite timeliness and dimensions
@@christianwhite8877 boy you crazy, that would mean kratos is more powerful than dr strange. Classic Strange is a 3d beign who has had multiversal to hyperversal feats. Goku is 3d beign but his raw power is 7d and above. Dimensionality can be complicated and easy sometimes.
There's an important difference with Dr strange in this regard. Classic Dr strange is the original Dr strange. This means all versions of dr strange rely on the existence of the classic Dr strange. This in turn means the existence of classic Dr strange can scale much higher than 3 dimensional.
With goku. He can't destroy or even affect zeno's realm in any meaningful way. And zeno's realm only scales to 7 to 8 dimensional at highest
Scale Zach king
Kratos' consistent scaling is infinite 4D to 6D
Goku's consistent scaling is 4D to Infinite 5D
With both having infinite to immeasurable speed
I think kratos' immeasurable speed is more consistent than goku's
It'd be an entertaining fight nonetheless wouldn't it
Hahahahahaha hahahahahah!!are you out of your mind Goku can beat kratos with base form and one punch he's a mortal Goku has fought for many years
Did you actually just unironically laugh in text😐😭
Rimuru and Kratos cap at 4D
ok bud when your ready to prove that ill be waiting
@@Permanent_Scalezrimuru only create an 10k universes which make rimuru multiversal
@@TroolGods thats WN not the LN 😐😐
Kratos is outer
huh?
@@Permanent_Scalez did i stutter?
@@ZearthPlayz no but like i have seen those arguments they arent all that
Kratos isn't outerversal or below universal. He's 4 to 5 dimensional, no higher and no lower
Tree level
I do get that Kratos is powerful coz of the lore but what really bugs me is the GoW cosmology, i always keep in mind that cosmology takes a vital role when it comes to scaling characters.
Bruno velasquez stated:
- there arent multiple universes in GoW, only regional divides
- GoW mythologies are just in one planet, different geographical regions (countries)
- travel stone allows you to cut the distance of travel and kratos had to travel greece to scandinavia
- All Gods and Mythologies are separated geographically
Cory Barlog stated
- All the mythologies exist on the same planet and pop up in different geographic location"
Matt sophos stated:
- All Myths exist in the same world, rather than a sci-fi dimensionality
If these are stated then the highest power scale in GoW is universal, which is kratos scale due to beating gods as powerful as the big bang.
Though the lore really sounded like its beyond universal/multi-dimensional , my guess is that's how GoW characters/games/whatever viewed or perceived the world in a universal scale...there way of saying plane of existence means geographical regions.
So in conclusion I don't believe kratos is even near to outerversal scale.
And I think Goku takes the W since he's capable of destroying a dragon ball universe which 3-5 times larger than our universe.
You low balled kratos
How so?
Both solo rimuru
ok when you can prove that ill be waiting
@@Permanent_Scalez rimuru feats is only create/destroy a 10k universes which is multiversal feats both can scale to outervesal
Just because a character 'can' scale to outerversal doesn't actually mean they really are outerversal. Also those universe's transcend time and have dimensions, it's easily 6 dimensional regardless of the amount of universe's
@@TroolGods 😐 hop in my discord I have a full scale there.
We know you love god of war but that doesn't mean his weak he is!!! think straight Goku could just punch him dead and Goku has been hit with many types of material and he doesn't feel nothing
😐 dude what your saying dosent debu k my scale
@@Permanent_Scalez dawg Goku has fought gods right and kratos but Goku is way stronger strength Goku speed Goku flight Goku potential Goku iq Goku fighting iq kratos
@@Permanent_Scalez and he could just do a khamehame
@@Permanent_Scalez and it's over bruv blud
@@Naks-uj2dk ok...prove that