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Legit couldn't find any good feat for anos that were consistent in any way😭
So what do yall think my next vid should be
Bro you forgot to mention that anos sword has limits
Can you make a video on complete tensura cosmology
@aryabhandari3335 yeah sure I was planning to make one but it fell through, I'll try to remake it later
Probably because the fandom is mostly made up of braindead tiktok graduates, japanese people who obviously doesn't engage in dumb discussions, and those who actually understands the series' mechanics and knows that there's more about the show than its powerscaling..
Though, its more because the series have no reliable translation(only raws) and there's very little people who would put in the effort of manually translating a crappy looking novel through MTLs.
Where do you put Rimuru on the tier list, you didn't actually specify, but I've seen plenty of scales that put him easily high outer, and far superior than 5d
@@Jk-debates video idea bro make Gilgamesh EA vs Rimuru LN pls make this one
Shion: "oh your stronger than me? Let me fix that real quick"
Also Rimuru became OP when he named Raphael to Ciel. Imagine a self aware AI assistant casually asking you, "Do you want me to recreate the universe for you?"
"I would answer yes please 😂"
Anos is busted no doubt, but rimuru has at least 3 subordinates as strong as anos.
No ☠️, there are A SHIT TON OF SCANS he didn’t cover 🫥 He admitted so yuh 🙅🏻♂️
@@Narcissistic_pyschotic ill be honest. I didn't watch the video. But Diablo alone is thousands upon thousands year old. Battle experience edges the fight.
@@Duckathincan diablo survive absolute destruction. Do you know what absolute destruction means
If you don't know Anos is a God killer. He control almost everything he can also use Holy Magic without any back lash and resurrect without back lash as well he can also get immunity on every attack so how can a mere subordinates can win a God killing Demon Lord. Watch and ready everything first on Misfit of the Demon Lord Academy before making any baseless conclusions mister.
@@orugantishivapriya6305diablo has turn null so yes he can
This Highest level downplay of Rimuru.
Currently Rimuru is Transcended Being who transcends Cardinal Multiverse and Above All dimensions.
You don't include Time Axis Scaling, Sub-Space Scaling, Labyrinth Scaling different Type of World's, Promise Land, Heaven, Underworld also in Some Translation it stated that there are Countless/Infinite World's which was even mentioned in the Latest volume and Different Type of World like Chaos World, Physical World, Semi Spiritual World, Spiritual World, Otherworld's, insector World'sWorld's etc. All countless different types of World within their Great world like Great Spiritual World and there stated to be not 1 but Unknown numbers of Great Spiritual World, all of them are within the Grand Continuum. Considering rimuru is currently the Second Strongest only second to Will of The God and All the Authorities of Pree Creation Veldanava his Current scaling would be High Hyperversal.
I've seen him put to high outer as well, and it should be beyond infinite worlds, I saw something saying Velgrynd is able to actually understand, process, and quantify the concept of infinity, but she wasn't able to keep track of the amount of worlds, and I've seen scales that put worlds comparable to multiverses which only ups the cosmology that much more, one thing I like to note is our universe also exists as an other world and probably a rather small one at that
nah even that scan is true and not debunkable at all it's still complex multiverse at best nowhere near Hyperversal and outer!? you can be dream.
literally bruh
Infinite types of world doesn't make it past hyperversal, you need a finite layer of transcending space-time continuum to be hyperversal. Tensura do have countless worlds but they don't transcend each other. If what you're saying is true, that's only few layers into hyperversal which is far lower than high-hyperversal.
@@SomeRandomDude12542 You right bro, I still don't know how they even come up with 1A Rimuru lmao
Well anos is strong but rimuru has got more busted haxes so i agree with your take
Nice video + agree with your take
Fax anos is too much overrated nowadays he is gilgamesh victim
Yeah, Gilgamesh is overkill cause he is 8D but some Fate Characters is way ridiculous scale, abilities, and haxs than Gilgamesh and around 98% anime. So, I believe he is Gilgamesh (Kid)'s victim is enough. 😂
Yes
No lmao, GOKU IS THE MOST OVERRATE PIECE OF DOG SHIT
Mentioning a flawed verse in front of another flawed verse is not gonna help you fam.
Fate fans are just as worse as misfit when it comes to misinterpretations
for all the anos tards
Rimuru is obviously the winner and he wins with this powers Some of Rimuru's powers: Rimuru can turn fantasy into reality and he could create anything he visualizes. Not to mention that he could create an infinite Clones of himself while his real body stays in his imaginary space which is separate from the world (outerversal by the way for those who don't know). All Anos has going for him is his sword which I've debunked by the way. Anos sword can destroy anyone on a conceptual level yet it couldn't destroy Anos proving that it can't destroy those on a higher existence and Rimuru is in a much higher existence than Anos since he is the overall Deity of his world. Not to mention that Rimuru trascends life and death which Anos hasn't. If you think I'm lying, then explain how Anos was killed for two thousand years? Anos just has a type 8 immortality. He even died for a couple of minutes when his source got destroyed at the last episode in the anime. Anos is not above death and can be killed if the right measures are taken unlike Rimuru who trascendes the very concept of death. How did he trascend Death? Well Rimuru was sent to the void which is outside his verse. The Void is the end of everything in existence. Rimuru was sent there with the hope that he will cease to exist since the void is a place where everything ends and it is outside the world (infinite multiverse) This obviously didn't work on Rimuru. Instead, he was sleeping in that void for countless years Transcending the concept of everything including life and death before he returned back to his world If you don't know what this means, it means that the concept of death no longer applies to Rimuru. Erasing, destroy, concept manipulation or concepts erasing, fate change, plot twist, law altering etc. All this and many more no longer applies to Rimuru who trascendes everything in a literal way. You might ask how he trascendes everything? That answer is very simple. Have you ever heard about spirits. The Great spirit are the true platonic concepts. Every concept originated from the great spirit like light, darkness, soul, sound, fate, plot, time, reincarnation, dimension etc. Every concepts originated from these spirits And all this spirits were created by Veldanava Veldanava was the overall Deity of the world before Rimuru came along And Rimuru has long since trascended even Veldanava and the Great spirit making Rimuru above everything This is an outerversal feat or boundless feat. I leave you to decide. Though I will say boundless or high outerversal but whatever. Not to mention that Rimuru now has all the abilities in the verse and boy you don't want me to list them because there op as heck. Take Veldora who can change the wavelength of his attack using probability manipulation which will make his attack stronger than it should be or Shion who can control casualty or Ultima that can release a deadly poison that ignores all kind of immortality and kill the target or the ability to create anything from imagination Rimuru could just create Anos sword or Anos himself if he wants. My point is that Rimuru has all this powers and more and he could even creat some new power with the help of Ciel. Anos destroying the silver sea which contains an infinite multiverse is impressive but what does that have against some one who can not only destroy an infinite multiverse but also create that same infinite multiverse in a blink of an eye without running out of energy. Anos can only destroy while Rimuru can destroy and create which is more impressive if I'm being honest. Rimuru feats: Casually having the power to creat and destroy an infinite number of world's, Transcending the great spirit who are the true platonic concept meaning that Rimuru is above everything in existence and can not be hurt by anything, Transcending the god of his world and taking his place as the creator and supreme deity, having all the power in the verse and having the ability to create new power just by thinking about it, being Omnipresence making his speed irrelevant, and being above his verse as he was sent to the end of his verse which is the void and survived thet for countless years. As for being Omnipresence, here is a scan to prove it Rimuru as a supreme deity can assign roles to other godlike entities in his world to be observers of his creation There is just so much Rimuru could do. With all this out of the way, what in the name of any Deity out there can Anos do to Rimuru? Why does people think that Anos can beat Rimuru? Is it because he can destroy the silver sea? Big deal. Rimuru can do that and more. Is it because he has an amazing sword? I proved that the sword can not destroy everyone since it couldn't destroy Anos. Let's say that the sword can destroy Rimuru by destroying his concept. It still wouldn't work since true Dragon can revive even by having their concept erased And Rimuru who is way above the true dragons should have no problems reviving from having his concept destroyed. The Rimuru I used for example is true dragon Rimuru not supreme deity Rimuru who obviously doesn't have a concept as he trascendes that a long time ago. Now then, Is there any other thing that Anos can do to hurt Rimuru? The answer is a big fat No. Therefore, Rimuru wins this fight quite easily. This fight is not a stalemate because Rimuru is just overall stronger and better than Anos and anyone who thinks otherwise is just wrong. The winner is Rimuru Tempest
It was never stated that Rimuru being sent to the end of time(void as you say) was to kill but instead trap him somewhere he couldn’t escape by both Yuuki(WN) and Feldway(LN).
His true immortality lies in his nature as a an Ultimate Slime(basically a True Dragon) where his beyond death since he can revive even if his heart core is destroyed.
@@admiz6592yeah, it was shown that other characters could survive there as well
@@admiz6592 It was literally declared as "Absolute Nothing" in Volume 21 when Vega got there (the same place where Velgrynd and Rimuru were sent)
All that yap yet gets clapped by Goku
All dis shit just to get neged by 1st step Nirvana
I just found this channel and i am already subscribed great video i would love to see more rimaru content
Anos needed to die by the hero's sword to create a barrier that would protect a country. Literally could not pull it off on his own and also needed to sacrifice himself for it. Even if temporary, he died.
Rimuru can casually re-create the universe 10k times over.
There is a small discrepancy in their levels of power it seems.
Sides from that, everything I've seen Anos do, has also been done by Rimuru. And then there's everything Rimuru does that Anos didn't and/or can't.
I love Anos. Man's the GOAT. The one guy who can't lose. Heck, he could sleep with an entire lusting harem and he wouldn't lose his virginity. That's how good at not losing he is. But I'm afraid Rimuru is simply on another level.
bruh that barrier extended to the entire world , all four races which includes gods also , who live in azure sky of gods
and he got stabbed to get reincarnated
@@ROZAN_U Alright, but my point still stands. Also, why would he NEED to get re-incarnated?
@@SkyReaperOne did you even watch the anime? he sacrifice himself for the peace in the world , no demon king = no one for human to hate on and with that separation of the race , their hate to each other might cease somewhat in the span of thousand years ,that's why he reincarnated and made that wall in the process.
and he need to die from hero sword cause that the only weakness of him he can't die in any other way , reincarnation needs you to die lol, that sword negates various abilities of his source like regen , that why he used it
@@ROZAN_U Alright, I'll give it to you. I forgot the reasoning behind him sacrificing himself.
That said, I still stand by the argument that there is absolutely nothing Anos did that Rimuru could not do. Even by up scaling Anos's greatest feat by 10x would still not represent 1% of the effort required for end game Rimuru to achieve the same results. If he could, he would not have needed such a convoluted plan that would require him to cease to exist for 1000 years.
Anos has power over laws of physics, can affect the soul directly, can act in stopped time and has some level of conceptual manipulation. But it all pales in comparison to the slime that can do all that along with time travel, probability manipulation and again, the ability to re-create the universe 10000x over from scratch. To name just a few of the broken things he can do. In fact, the only thing Anos does that Rimuru does NOT display, are feats of strength. But there is nothing to indicate that Rimuru could not pull off those feats. Would be weirder if he couldn't.
@@SkyReaperOne do you have discord?
cause showing you all that thing here isn't possible
Thank you for this, most people don't powerscaling rimuru
Yh ik, actually am currently the only person that scales rimuru or tensura
@@Jk-debatesty bro I don't have to debate for like 1 hour to prove that rimuru is stronger than anos
Bro every digital life form have immeasurable speed because
Information Particles transcend Space-Time and can physically move to any point in Space or Time even from the end of space-time itself to the past
Oh so that explains why manas can move inside a timestop
@@phantom9831 😊
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7:27 There is a scan ☠️ the same guy who said the r>f statement said that the difference is from another dimension.
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Well they'd be right lol.. R>F transcendence, the difference between them would be by 1 dimension or more.
Even in Downplayed Vs battle wiki 1 weak world is 2-A and 1 weak world is 1-C to 1-B in AFBW.
Bro can you tell me the full form of AFBW
@@aryabhandari3335 All Fiction Battle Wiki
@@Koushik7310 thanks
😮@@aryabhandari3335
Fax
Anos use magic and physical attack which is useless against rimuru
and anos sword cannot affect if the opponent is higher dimensional being than user as shown in animal
Anos don't have any ultimate skill and only ultimate skill can counter another ultimate skill
and Rimuru have resistance to literally anything in existence
basically anos doesn't have anything in his inventory to counter rimuru haxes
Rimuru have way too much hax not to mention he can use the ultimate skills of he s subordinates at will
@@KuusetsuSan
Fax
sounds about right. someone who doesn't overrate anos for once. u maybe downplayed him abit but results should be about the same with the new Tensura LN chapters (before tensura vol 19 u could make a case for anos)
BTW, what do u scale the different forms of Veldanava to?
will of god veldenava is highe outer-boundless but no feats to back it up.
and after veldenava create the world he is low outer-high outer I would say
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h outer boundless? never heard of that tier only heard up to boundless. but anyways high boundless would be a stretch for me since as you said he featless.
@@pheonix3954 no I mean high outer or boundless
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h ye that makes sense now
The main character of their own stories are overpowered and are guaranteed to succeed until the Author decides otherwise. As fans, we can enjoy their story. When comparing. Subjective comparison is important. Emotional comparisons are difficult to get away from as people on the internet.
As the self proclaimed literal biggest Rimuru stan in the world, I think you slightly overestimated Anos and definitely underestimated Rimuru, but I can see your points with Anos being 5, but I personally think Rimuru obliterates him, and as a post already said, at least 30 TTIGRAAS characters destroy Anos, and I am not even counting God Velda (The being of which Velda is its will, but God easily solos most fiction in my opinion - change my mind).
I feel lile it's too early to make videos about anos vs Rimuru
The light novel for misfit of demon king academy is not over yet and anos power is still growing.
No one ia talking about Anos's magic sword of distruction. I want to know how that would play out?
I agree with this, but I disagree with anos 5Th dimensional scaling being inconsistent
We could logically scale to 5D to 6D but I still agree on rimuru beating him as I see rimuru at 5-7D
Bro have u see rimuru's speed on vsb about "information particle" ?
And tensura cosmology the LN one !?
No why?
Never ever tough that they upgrade it to immesureble speed dayum and 3 layer 2A cosmology !
@@woodywoodpacker9051 can you send link please
CZcams bro no link alow
Bro who would win in your opnion velzard vs chole?
chloe ( personal opinion )
Velzard
Chloe will low diff if it's the adult
Velzard lol 😂 she’s more powerful than her by a huge margin. Chloe at best would put up a good fight but lose at the end.
@@KuusetsuSan no velzard is so powerfull that guy wants fight in full strength if chole can no diff her rimuru would have taken her with him to stop velzard.atleast for now guy>chole and velzard = guy = Ln 20 rimuru(not 21) .
agreed
Anos's sword vezdonoa was destroyed in the first half of the second season. When Anos Delhelvia was made.
The greatest mistake you made by not reading enough material about misfit is forgetting that Anos called his sword Venuzdonoa a "ragged stick", his power doesn't rely on his sword, instead the sword relies on his power since Anos itself possess ultimate annihilation through his Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction (do not mistake this from his inferior magic eyes of destruction and mauve magic eyes). Although he exchanged his right eye to obtain the weaker versions, he can still use the power of his original magic eyes of chaotic destruction. Now you might ask, what does these eyes do and why these eyes can basically wipe out rimuru out of existence? as much as I'd like to explain it myself, i'll provide you the explanation seen on the misfit wiki instead:
"The Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction", the original Magic Eyes of Anos Voldigoad. These Magic Eyes are dyed mauve with a cross drawn in the abyss of the pupils. The essence of these Magic Eyes is destruction, but in a chaotic form. They have the power to DESTROY EVEN THE INDESTRUCTIBLE. With merely the opening of these Magic Eyes, the WORLD BEGINS TO COLLAPSE AND BECOME CHAOTIC.They can DESTROY ORDER AND REASON.
If there's a CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THESE MAGIC EYES AND THE REASON that must be destroyed, "ANOS WILL WIN UNILATERALLY". Additionally, the CONTRADICTION TURNS INTO THE POWER OF THESE MAGIC EYES. They can MAKE EVENTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY HAPPEN AND/OR ALREADY HAPPENED NEVER HAPPEN, by DESTROYING REASON AND CREATING A LOGICAL CONTRADICTION, therefore UNILATERALLY WINNING. In other words, these Magic Eyes can nullify powers after they have already affected Anos, as if he was never even affected, to begin with.
As you can see here, his magic eyes of chaotic destruction basically negates everything and anything in existence, no matter who, what, where, when, and why it is. Even if rimuru is a transcendent being, even as a true dragon, he will never survive the magic eyes of chaotic destruction because it destroys reason, tensura fans heavily underestimates the power of reason destruction, reason drives reality, what makes a being considered a being, in this case, Anos can use his eyes to destroy rimuru by making a contradiction to rimuru's existence, Rimuru exist because Satoru Mikami died, but if Satoru Mikami lived, Rimuru is not born, and through this logical contradiction, the magic eyes of chaotic destruction will prevent the death of Satoru Mikami, therefore eliminating rimuru's existence, no matter how many abilities you present to counter argument this, it won't work, because REASON IS DESTROYED. Some of you might say, rimuru is a true dragon and true dragons cannot be erased or destroyed, yes it is true that true dragons cannot be absolutely destroyed, but the thing is, if Satoru Mikami didn't died, do you think rimuru becomes a true dragon? let alone be born at all? ABSOLUTELY NO, and why? because rimuru's existence contradicts the reason that has been destroyed by the magic eyes of chaotic destruction, no matter how you flip this logic many times it will still end up to one result "satoru survived, therefore rimuru is not born". "Rimuru can survive even the destruction of all reality", yes he can but the thing is Anos doesn't need to destroy everything to destroy rimuru, Anos's power can be very selective and therefore he has a choice to simply use the magic eyes of chaotic destruction on rimuru alone, in fact it doesn't even target rimuru directly, what the magic eyes of chaotic destruction targets is reason and as far as I know rimuru has no way of defending against anything that targets "Reason", don't mistake reason to be the same as law/order so don't even bother saying that his law manipulation skill can be used to defend or protect "reason". Reason is an abstract concept that drives reality like "The massive release of energy caused by ignition causes fire to become hot" while laws/order are fundamental concepts constructed from reason like "The fire is hot due to exothermic reaction". Manipulating laws/order is like saying that "By lowering the exothermic reaction speed, the fire is extinguished", while contradicting reason is like "By not igniting the flame, no release of energy is done, therefore no fire is created". Anos's capability to destroy and contradict reason is much stronger than rimuru's law manipulation, and also we already know that law manipulation is bounded by laws such as scientific and magical laws known by its user, there is no mention that it can also manipulate anything beyond those such as "reason".
This next information added is a sidenote to fix a common misconception about Anos:
Anos already shown 100% of his power in the anime after melheis awakened his source - NO, what he shown in the anime is nothing close to his true 100%, it is mentioned in the light novel that Anos had to suppress his magic to a small yet stable amount, now you might ask why he does it? it's simple, the type of magic that Anos possess is destruction, and he has a very tremendous, unimaginable amount of this magic power, as of now there was no indication about the limit of his magic amount, but what I want to focus here is that his magic power threatens the destruction of the entire 99 layers of silver sea, even the abyssal world which is way deeper than the 99th layer (the deepest layer). Hence why he needs to use his own magic to suppress his own magic to a very minimal amount, he basically nerfs himself otherwise the silver sea crumbles due to his mere existence.
1.anos cannot control hes magic eyes
2.the magic eyes alone wont be enough to beat rimuru
3.the silver sea got debunked alot of time ago
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h Rimuru is maybe like outerversal - high outerversal in prime . Anos is outer - high outer in current form .
@@orugantishivapriya6305 no he isnt..
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h you straight up lying 🤥 now . When the author himself said that anos can do these things even with just a fraction of his true power , what is your problem for denying author himself
@@orugantishivapriya6305 k give me a feat that put anos at high outer. I agree that anos is strong but rimuru is stronger and has immunity/resistance for anythin he can do
I am not a Anos Fan but i Think He should be little higher then That because it stated that his Sword can destroy any concept's and unaffected by Space-Time and Dimension Gaps.
Still have a limit it won't put much of a fight against the feats
anos sword has a limit
Also, Rimuru has all existence resistance, and an ultimate skill can only be countered by another ultimate skill. Since Anos has NO ultimate skill, it'll be hard for him to beat Rimuru. Rimuru is my 1 and only fav out of all the animes .
@joebibat5348 the fact that an ultimate skill can only be countered by another ultimate skill is a concept which anos can just erase already so their is no point adding that
@@mhanzirose9846 indeed you are right. but anyway the silver sea is so wank both of anos and rimuru cap at high hyper and in a 1v1 I dont see how will anos deafeat rimuru cuz in a long term battle rimuru will win no matter what beacuse of ciel so if anos cant one shot rimuru and I dont see how he will do that rimuru will win
Can you debunk middle tracks debunk
Middle track?
@@Jk-debates an editor who scaled Goku to outer
@IEATmods. He can't lol.
Its impossible to debunk goku outer scale.
Its just people being extreme ignorant about it.
Rimuru is easily boundless with immeasurable speed if we’re using vsbw tier I would have said irrelevant speed but that tier doesn’t exist for vsbw
I honestly think rimuru could legit be hyperversal or low outer with wank
People in the comments using their own head canon is crazy. Anos solos and it ain't even close. MEoCD goes burrrr!
I do think rimuru is stronger but it would be a lot closer than you said
Rimuru is probably hyperversal to low outerversal
In LN canon rimuru can’t have his real body in his imagary space since he can’t use parallel existence in LN as explained in Michael figh vol 19 that only the case in WN canon still has veldora based immortality and true dragon’s intrinsic busted regeneration
Well i think it will be a draw between these two powerhouses but i respect your opnion.
Rimuru is destroying Anos, he scales much higher than he put him
people underestimate rimuru iq and hax bruh
Everyone says Anos wins but they never back it up with a valid argument.
I support Remuru cuz hes just a better characters
Sure you made a point about not backing it with a valid argument but you just did the same exact thing bro
I feel the Remero knowing him he’d probably after kicking on his butt entirely. He’d probably ask if they wanted to be friends if he wanted to be friends with him, instead of killing him.
good video. There are some point that i don´t agree with like the cosmology from both Maou gakuin and Tensura.
For The Tensura Cosmology:
The Lowest construct would be the Labyrinth.
It has 100+ Floors and each floor is a higher temporal dimension + everything inside of it is conceptual. That would be 103+ D with at least 3 spatial (most likely more) and 100 temporal ones (the conceptual dimensions aren´t included so it could be higher)
The Lab (Labyrinth) also has its sub space/ outer edge that can contain infinite floors and is above spatial and temporal dimensions. That would qualify for L1A in both CSAP and VSB.
- Next are the "Worlds"
Each World is stated to be able to contain the labyrinth and be a higher dimension than it too. (level/ plane of existence dimension)
That alone would make a World L1A - 1A.
For the Worlds themself. They have different Laws (principles) and transcend each other. (the ones we have seen also had multiple dimensions, be it spatial, temporal, conceptual,...)
There are infinite (inaccessible cardinal) Worlds resulting in an inaccessible cardinal hierarchy where the lowest construct is already 1A making it an H1A+ (infinite layer) hierarchy/construct.
Btw there are different types of Worlds like: Material worlds, semi Material world, semi Spiritual worlds, Spiritual worlds,... + there are worlds that are above (conceptual) Space, Time, dimensions, causality, logic,...
Explanation for why the "countless worlds" are infinite (inaccessible cardinal) worlds:
The statement was made by Velgrynd who couldn´t even begin to grasp how many Worlds there are and she escaped/ destroyed Infinity prison which has infinite (most likely aleph cardinal or higher) higher conceptual dimensions that seal most - all ability´s/ hax and sever Space and time on a conceptual level.
-Above that are the underworld/hell and Heaven.
They are stated/ shown to be above all Worlds and existed before the Concepts and great holy Spirits of Time and Spac itself.
That would qualify them for 0 / 1S because, they transcend an H1A+ hierarchy and even contain it. (the void between Worlds is a part of the underworld like the abyss)
-If you want we can also include The promised land which views all of that as fictional but it isn´t necessary.
-Than we have Suspended world. It stops everything mentioned and transcends it. That includes: All Worlds + Heaven and Hell, all Laws (Physics, magic,...), Spiritual beings (they are made of spiritrons who ignore / transcend space and time and even bypass barriers that can sever spatial, temporal and conceptual,... dimensions + they can exist in all the other constructs)
That would make it 0+ (1 layer or higher)
-Veldanavas World
Is everyhing mentioned/ all of tensura.
-Rimurus Imaginary space
Is bigger than Veldanavas World and can contain everything mentioned + has enough Nihility energy to create Veldanavas World 20.000+ times and isn´t even full/ can contain infinitely more,
-End world/ end of space time+.
There is nothing but nihility energy that erases everything even infons. I wouldn´t use it to scale Tensura but just wanted to mention it
That Would make every S.W. (Suspended world) user and Digital lifeform 0/1S + and Ln 21 Rimuru can create Veldanavas World including all constructs and beings.
Btw True Dragons > Great Holy spirit of Darkness, time, light, space,... making them by nature alone 0 - 0+
1 slight mistake is that the labyrinth ONLY exists in the cardinal/central world but as stated in the novel a single world has infinite timeline (or universes) these timelines themself contain the labyrinth and the infinite timeline is contained by the cardinal world as a whole. Scaling the cardinal world above the average cardinal timeline as the world is a higher set that contain the subset(Timelines) and you also haven't included the subspace between the cardinal world and the cardinal dimensions. And I also want to know where it has been stated that hell and heaven existed before the great spirits of time and space as these great spirits were one of the first creation of Veldanava. Also the Great spirit of time is as powerful as Will of God Veldanava so now do True Dragon>Great Spirit of Time And Space. They are platonic Concept where as the true dragons are just abstract or normal concepts.
@@0xeyn question so are you disagreeing with the comment's scaling or is boundless actually realistic because I thought he was just high outer
@@michaelbalog7409 L1-A is the max for the cosmology right now and 1-A for WoG[Will of God]. Getting any above is just pure wank.
So um is this scale from light novel or web novel? I head light novel supass the web novel is it true
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Veldanava vs zeno please please please 😣
veldanava 1 taps him
Veldanava one taps
@@Jk-debates just made that video i just wanna see zeno ass getting bully
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h i know i just want to see him getting bully
Can he beat Goku though?
As much as I love Anos, End of series Rimuru is broken as all hell. He would get his cheeks clapped harder than Meek Mill. 😂
I agree Rimuru > Anos but i have to corect a few things.
Countless for a being with an infinte lifespan is infinte.
Ergo there exsist Infinte hirachical dimensions in tensura not just countless.
Velgrynd attacked cornu with an attack beyond matimatical dimensions and turn null trancends even that.
You can even go about the platonic concepts (Holy spirits) in tensura,etc.
And there are a lot more feats that push Rimuru even higher.
Same for Anos, *sigh
Well anos isn't even close to rimuru level
You think anos will get a buff in the next volumes?
He is.. go read vol 15
@@animepowerlevel7906 ight
Rimuru is literally god itself
Anos is hax for sure, but in all honesty he wouldn’t even be powerful enough to actually even get the chance to fight Rimuru.. he wouldn’t even make it past Rimuru’s top subordinates to get a shot a Rimuru himself. If he somehow managed to actually get past Zegion (highly doubtful…), he is certainly NOT making it past Diablo! Lol.. so yeah, Anos may be A Demon King, but Diablo is a primordial demon of unfathomable power, & definitely a demon that is out classing him.. one that he is absolutely not capable of beating to make it to Rimuru. But for the hell of it.. let’s just say Anos does make it past Diablo & the others to get a shot at fighting Rimuru himself one vs one.. He isn’t lasting 5 seconds against a full powered serious Rimuru, & that’s honestly being generous… lol Anos has zero chance whatsoever. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either delusional, ignorant, stubbornly (& stupidly…) biased, & is just flat out a fool. Sorry, that’s the truth. Also… now that I’m thinking about it.. Hell, I don’t even think Anos is making it past fucking Shion even! Ha.. no joke! I mean, with her “Master Chef” skill & “Certain Outcome” abilities.. she is a reality warper that changes the outcomes of shit in her favor how she pleases. So yeah… I don’t even think Anos is beating Shion actually, let alone all the others above her, especially Rimuru himself!
Well u donwplayed anos too much but yes i agree Rimuru slams
And u didn't really talk abt their destructive capacity,anos cabdesyroy silver sea but Rimuru can recreate or destroy his entire Tensura cosmology tensif thousands of times which is anywhere from 20,000-99,999 so in the end Rimuru still has higher DC
does this guy know that anos literally cant be killed? anos is outer to boundless
I see an obvious bias here.
You should find a big anos fanboy and start a debate rather than fanboying rimuru without debating someone. It's boring to watched and listen when it's you only and only read/know the slime.
He was really low balling rimuru to make it fair bro
@@Sohailhgfggggh6 Nah, how's that fair when he doesn't read the other guy? Also isn't more interesting if there's two people fighting in powerscalling? Like Yu-Gi-Oh lmao
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@@Broke-kun what?
@@Broke-kun two people on power scaling, is more about making the other person seem stupid than actual powerscaling
No need anos vezdonoa is already Overkill no need anos even or grham vezdonoa is already Overkill
extreme down play, you only stated worlds and space time and also concept transcended by rimuru, but there is more to it, far more to it, first, great spirit which is stated to be true platonic being, and power scaling stated that a platonic being is high outer no doubt, and rimuru transcend the great spirit, second, the labyrinth, the labyrinth is stated to be a dimensional space with 100 floors, and each floors having infinite parallel space time and also dimension, and each floor transcend the previous one infinitely this make the labyrinth outer, and one of the true dragon, velgrynd destroy 50 floors without breaking a swear making velgrynd high outer, and each true dragon have similiar power scaling so that would make true dragon high outer and labyrinth outer, next, Rimuru is above angels and Demons, who all exist as beings called Observers which is on a higher plane of existence called Heaven, where they observe many worlds, Rimuru was also able to lock up heaven in another space showing how much higher his existence is
For countless years, he has been sleeping in the void even with the world (universe) being destroyed. Which shows that Rimuru has trascended the great spirit which is the embodiment of all concepts
Rimuru also has multiple existence and parallel existence which mean that he can be everywhere and anywhere at the same time. This means that Rimuru has infinite speed since he is Omnipresence
rimuru = high outer potentially boundless since he transcend veldavana which created everything including law logic identities concept reality fate infinite possbiibilities and probabilities with infinite timeline etc, veldavana stated to be omnipotence and omnipresence = boundless, so rimuru might just be boundless
Just read the first sentence and saw a mistake one thing is that the platonic concept is scale to 1-A only if the cosmology is scaled to 1-A if not then it will be scaled to the cosmology via VSBW atleast as CSAP doesn't have this rule.
@@0xeynplatonic concept will not upscale you to L1A nor 1A
@@Luminous46 I didn't not state that Platonic Concept upscale you I just said that Platonic Concept can only be 1-A when the cosmology is 1-A.
Anos be dead 10 times before he reach Rimuru
Says the guy with rimuru pfp and debate midjjk lmao
😭 ok bro
Vezdonoa scale to 1AH to 1S is the overkill
Anos scale to 1AH to 1S to far into 1S
what kind of scale is 1s💀
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h
What? If you have Dis i can show you
Even anos anime is already 1A to 1AH orders are the laws concept script and the plot and the platonic forms of a world it governs all that exists within a world and everything within a world has to obey an order simply put they are the fundamental forms that everything should abide by order is also the script of the world the world has been referred to a stage or that the curtain open up to call forth a god so being able to change it means you are able to change the narrative that award follows by csap
they would qualify for platonic concepts being that they existed before the objects of its concepts everything participates in them manipulating one will affect all objects of the form and they exist beyond the physical boundaries of time and space we could use them existing before the world itself to prove that and also that they exist in the realm only made up of order meaning excluding the physical parts of dimensionality space and time this will qualify all orders those who scale to it to be 1A bare minimum but it's also a duality ( Trabsduality) stated that order cannot exist without an equal order this has been proved multiple times so transcending order would actually still be outer as that would mean one Trabsduality type 2 this is for TD2 for start so even anos anime S1=1A low ball And more,
Anos source is Trabsduality type 3 = high outer in CSAP
Is on 0% bc is anos existent is his source 1AH anos only start in 1AH and this is without silver sea go read/learn about misfit cosmology but from your video i see you just ignored from the COSMOLOGY and you hate misfit like the dbs fans and all what rimuru did is = to what spirit did in misfit for start
1b fodder
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h
No 🤣 i already explained here why he 1A to 1AH in the anime even I see you just ignored from fact kid
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h
No 🤣 i see you just ignored
@@animepowerlevel7906 english of a 6yo?
@@user-ny4bc2dn8h
What?
Bro i m just disappointed in your scaling
It was obvious rimuru would win 😂
Ok. Fortunetly this bullshit Rimuru scaling won't never reach vsbattle 😹.
Anos still at 10% or 20% of his power
Waffles
Comment by anos > rimuru. case closed.
@markplayzmc5941
The greatest mistake you made by not reading enough material about misfit is forgetting that Anos called his sword Venuzdonoa a "ragged stick", his power doesn't rely on his sword, instead the sword relies on his power since Anos itself possess ultimate annihilation through his Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction (do not mistake this from his inferior magic eyes of destruction and mauve magic eyes). Although he exchanged his right eye to obtain the weaker versions, he can still use the power of his original magic eyes of chaotic destruction. Now you might ask, what does these eyes do and why these eyes can basically wipe out rimuru out of existence? as much as I'd like to explain it myself, i'll provide you the explanation seen on the misfit wiki instead:
"The Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction", the original Magic Eyes of Anos Voldigoad. These Magic Eyes are dyed mauve with a cross drawn in the abyss of the pupils. The essence of these Magic Eyes is destruction, but in a chaotic form. They have the power to DESTROY EVEN THE INDESTRUCTIBLE. With merely the opening of these Magic Eyes, the WORLD BEGINS TO COLLAPSE AND BECOME CHAOTIC.They can DESTROY ORDER AND REASON.
If there's a CONTRADICTION BETWEEN THESE MAGIC EYES AND THE REASON that must be destroyed, "ANOS WILL WIN UNILATERALLY". Additionally, the CONTRADICTION TURNS INTO THE POWER OF THESE MAGIC EYES. They can MAKE EVENTS THAT WILL CERTAINLY HAPPEN AND/OR ALREADY HAPPENED NEVER HAPPEN, by DESTROYING REASON AND CREATING A LOGICAL CONTRADICTION, therefore UNILATERALLY WINNING. In other words, these Magic Eyes can nullify powers after they have already affected Anos, as if he was never even affected, to begin with.
As you can see here, his magic eyes of chaotic destruction basically negates everything and anything in existence, no matter who, what, where, when, and why it is. Even if rimuru is a transcendent being, even as a true dragon, he will never survive the magic eyes of chaotic destruction because it destroys reason, tensura fans heavily underestimates the power of reason destruction, reason drives reality, what makes a being considered a being, in this case, Anos can use his eyes to destroy rimuru by making a contradiction to rimuru's existence, Rimuru exist because Satoru Mikami died, but if Satoru Mikami lived, Rimuru is not born, and through this logical contradiction, the magic eyes of chaotic destruction will prevent the death of Satoru Mikami, therefore eliminating rimuru's existence, no matter how many abilities you present to counter argument this, it won't work, because REASON IS DESTROYED. Some of you might say, rimuru is a true dragon and true dragons cannot be erased or destroyed, yes it is true that true dragons cannot be absolutely destroyed, but the thing is, if Satoru Mikami didn't died, do you think rimuru becomes a true dragon? let alone be born at all? ABSOLUTELY NO, and why? because rimuru's existence contradicts the reason that has been destroyed by the magic eyes of chaotic destruction, no matter how you flip this logic many times it will still end up to one result "satoru survived, therefore rimuru is not born". "Rimuru can survive even the destruction of all reality", yes he can but the thing is Anos doesn't need to destroy everything to destroy rimuru, Anos's power can be very selective and therefore he has a choice to simply use the magic eyes of chaotic destruction on rimuru alone, in fact it doesn't even target rimuru directly, what the magic eyes of chaotic destruction targets is reason and as far as I know rimuru has no way of defending against anything that targets "Reason", don't mistake reason to be the same as law/order so don't even bother saying that his law manipulation skill can be used to defend or protect "reason". Reason is an abstract concept that drives reality like "The massive release of energy caused by ignition causes fire to become hot" while laws/order are fundamental concepts constructed from reason like "The fire is hot due to exothermic reaction". Manipulating laws/order is like saying that "By lowering the exothermic reaction speed, the fire is extinguished", while contradicting reason is like "By not igniting the flame, no release of energy is done, therefore no fire is created". Anos's capability to destroy and contradict reason is much stronger than rimuru's law manipulation, and also we already know that law manipulation is bounded by laws such as scientific and magical laws known by its user, there is no mention that it can also manipulate anything beyond those such as "reason".
This next information added is a sidenote to fix a common misconception about Anos:
Anos already shown 100% of his power in the anime after melheis awakened his source - NO, what he shown in the anime is nothing close to his true 100%, it is mentioned in the light novel that Anos had to suppress his magic to a small yet stable amount, now you might ask why he does it? it's simple, the type of magic that Anos possess is destruction, and he has a very tremendous, unimaginable amount of this magic power, as of now there was no indication about the limit of his magic amount, but what I want to focus here is that his magic power threatens the destruction of the entire 99 layers of silver sea, even the abyssal world which is way deeper than the 99th layer (the deepest layer). Hence why he needs to use his own magic to suppress his own magic to a very minimal amount, he basically nerfs himself otherwise the silver sea crumbles due to his mere existence.
Anos Voldigoad Cann destroy Rimarus Concept you forgot aboout That 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Both goku victims,🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💥💥💥🔥🔥
Goku gets negged
Either aura solo goku + verse
another rimuru meat rider
@@Wat3rCrush if you have an actual argument discord.com/invite/MUaVDaRnWA come here.
@@Jk-debates I dont need to have a debate with you on that, you scale rimuru to be boundless based on nothing
Anos' Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction allow him to destroy anything unilaterally no matter how indestructible it is. If anything tries to contradict his eyes, that contradiction will turn into the power of these eyes. So Rimuru's powers will become part of Anos' eyes in order to destroy him
Rimuru negs
Pretty shallow and lazy analysis. Even looking at this objectively, there's a clear gap between your understanding of one side and the other.. You could have dig into some old thread between this two, recited all of its arguments, and have much more quality and in depth discussion video.
I said in my video that there was nothing to work with when it comes to anos, I literally looked through comic vine threads of all things to find anything tangible and found nothing of use
And no.. I see you don't use Even Mlitta world cosmology
You mean the hole black sky azure sky bullshit 😭
@@Jk-debates
No.. even before that and is not bullshit 😂 I see you just ignored from the COSMOLOGY
Scale Low ball for you the Mlitta world/the silver sea use vsbw
1. Each bubble world has an infinite multiverse within the world in 2 ways. Firstly the Land of Traces keeps an infinite amount of copies of everything in the world including the world itself, this means there are infinite copies of the world which would be talking about the universe that's created. Secondly, the future celestial sphere which contains an infinite amount of possible futures, so infinite possible time branches. 2 multiversal+ structures inside a single bubble world. 2. The celestial spheres are microcosms of the world (either bubble world or universe) that are within the Azure sky. 2 infinite multiverses, so 2 infinite 5D spaces since they contain an infinite amount of infinite sized 4D spaces, take up finite space within the Azure sky which makes the Azure sky 6D. We also have the moon of creation which if an infinite void that can exist when nothing in the bubble world exists, and it preexists any realm in the world. This mean the bubble world holds at least 2 infinite 6D spaces, making it 7D in totality. There are the world. This mean the bubble world holds This mean the bubble world holds at least 2 infinite 6D spaces, making it 7D in totality. There are infinite amount of bubble world in layer 0, and countless bubbles in deeper layers. 3. R>F transcendences aren't the only type of transcendences, Misfit verse works on quantitative or qualitative superiority. A being who is equal to the militia world, which is 7D, was stared on volume 11 to not even compare to regular inhabitants of deeper layers. Then those deeper layered worlds also have a universe, land of traces and future world, celestial spheres, Azure sky and a moon of creation which stacks onto the hierarchy further by 3 dimensions at least. Meaning there's an uncountably infinite different between moon of creation which stacks onto the hierarchy further by 3 dimensions at least. Meaning there's an uncountably infinite different between layer 0 world and layer 1 world.
4. Any mention of the bubble worlds being universes fail to grasp the macrocosm structure, and they have proven they don't know what the misfit verse is like. Not only that, multiple beings scale to outer via platonic forms and beyond due to infinite recursion within future world. Which can be scaled to high outer
@@Jk-debates
Even anos anime is already 1A to 1AH
orders are the laws concept script and the plot and the platonic forms of a world it governs all that exists within a world and everything within a world has to obey an order simply put they are the fundamental forms that everything should abide by order is also the script of the world the world has been referred to a stage or that the curtain open up to call forth a god so being able to change it means you are able to change the narrative that award follows by csap
they would qualify for platonic concepts being that they existed before the objects of its concepts everything participates in them manipulating one will affect all objects of the form and they exist beyond the physical boundaries of time and space we could use them existing before the world itself to prove that and also that they exist in the realm only made up of order meaning excluding the physical parts of dimensionality space and time this will qualify all orders those who scale to it to be 1A bare minimum but it's also a duality ( Trabsduality) stated that order cannot exist without an equal order this has been proved multiple times so transcending order would actually still be outer as that would mean one Trabsduality type 2 this is for TD2 for start so even anos anime S1=1A low ball And more, Anos source is Trabsduality type 3 = high outer in CSAP
Is on 0% bc is anos existent is his source 1AH anos only start in 1AH and this is without silver sea
@@animepowerlevel7906 😭discord.com/invite/MUaVDaRnWA
@@Jk-debates
Is not let me join
Goku negs
Nice one
Goku is Naruto's victim 😂
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