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  • Clickbait Title: Odds Are You'll Probably Never See The Snyder Cut of Justice League
    I do talk about the recent rumours with HBO Max, but it's not until the end of the video, so it's basically a guarantee that the comments are going to be full of commenters telling me I didn't talk about things that I definitely did talk about. I know mocking knee-jerk comments in the description is pretty hack, but knee-jerk comments are also pretty hack, so a hack for a hack I guess.
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  • @FoldingIdeas
    @FoldingIdeas  Před 4 lety +4356

    Apparently I wrote the wrong studio for Mission Impossible 6 two years ago and didn't double check because I assumed I'd checked two years ago in the first place.

    • @FoldingIdeas
      @FoldingIdeas  Před 4 lety +663

      I almost certainly had The Mummy on the brain.

    • @flyingteeshirts
      @flyingteeshirts Před 4 lety +15

      Good job. Does this mean you will make another video addressing concerns and criticism like you did for your Suicide Squad video?

    • @SeanBarkerNegaScott128
      @SeanBarkerNegaScott128 Před 4 lety +66

      Another thing at 13:58 - Fox has released the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 on Blu-Ray and DVD, which is to Alien 3 what the Snyder Cut is to Justice League: a workprint version from before the original director was removed from the project. However, the film industry of 2019 is very different from the film industry of 2003 when the cut was first released to the public, and even that version was only released 11 years after the film's theatrical debut.

    • @lemming8002
      @lemming8002 Před 4 lety +11

      Folding Ideas you fool

    • @TheQuantum09
      @TheQuantum09 Před 4 lety +2

      @TheKarlOshaughnessy That BAD huh? 😆😆😆

  • @LucasGabriel-sh9tf
    @LucasGabriel-sh9tf Před 4 lety +5259

    Maybe the real Snyder cut was the friends we made along the way

  • @wegogiant
    @wegogiant Před 3 lety +4257

    "There's almost no chance this will get released, but if it does, there's exactly one way it could happen" - Cut to a year and a half later and Dan was right about everything.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Před 3 lety +129

      I haven't seen it, and my entire exposure to the cut is the YMS review, and... if half of what he said was true, than Dan was pretty much right.

    • @matthewmuir8884
      @matthewmuir8884 Před 3 lety +546

      Yep; he got it all correct, right down to exactly what would be wrong with the Snyder Cut: fundamental problems with storytelling, the problematic core plot being unchanged, extreme bloat and overstuffing of cameos and setups for later movies, clear signs that it wasn't done being edited down, lack of focus, overly-long runtime, the movie being pointlessly grim, etc.

    • @Sugarman96
      @Sugarman96 Před 3 lety +38

      @@FTZPLTC Now if only we could get the Fielder Cut.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Před 3 lety +31

      @@Sugarman96 - Is that the one with the buttholes?

    • @charlestonobryant807
      @charlestonobryant807 Před 3 lety +110

      @@matthewmuir8884 It’s interesting seeing the, weird responses to the cut. I’ve seen few amounts of negativity other than it being way too long. Also I wouldn’t say the core plot is unchanged, the ending is vastly different from the theatrical cut, and more characters, especially Cyborg is fleshed out. I honestly even think out of any Snyder movie, it’s his most hopeful, it’s no where as grim as the previous ones. I think Cosmonaut put the nail on the coffin about it imo, if you don’t like Snyder’s filmaking at all you’re not gonna like it. Personally I really enjoyed the movie, and I felt it was at least an improvement, plus I’m glad he got to see his vision through, good or bad. This isn’t me invalidating your opinion or anything, just interesting to note

  • @nickymo
    @nickymo Před 2 lety +566

    ‘They would never do this unless there was a sudden massive shift in priorities for big studios’ this was december 2019 holy shitttt

  • @04whim
    @04whim Před 4 lety +4222

    Warner: Does exactly what Dan said they would.
    The comments: "Hmm yeah I bet you feel pretty stupid now don't you? I am very smart."

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 4 lety +80

      Shame that we're probably not going to see a work cut, though.
      (And the only reason "probably" is in there is because I don't like making definitive statements without definitive proof. There's a theoretical possibility that someone manages to leak that 214-mimute version.)

    • @vampirethespiderbatgod9740
      @vampirethespiderbatgod9740 Před 4 lety +9

      @@timothymclean Stay negative.

    • @AbstractTraitorHero
      @AbstractTraitorHero Před 4 lety +8

      What happened?

    • @Reverse_Hood
      @Reverse_Hood Před 4 lety +260

      Snyder Cultists aren't known for their intelligence

    • @dqreps
      @dqreps Před 4 lety +27

      @@Reverse_Hood neither are anti Snyder cultists 😏

  • @Electroporcupine
    @Electroporcupine Před 4 lety +4327

    It would have been funny if you'd partially shot this two years ago and then awkwardly cut the old footage in with new footage.

    • @thisguydan
      @thisguydan Před 4 lety +294

      Mixed with completed footage and unfinished, ungraded raw footage.

    • @tawdryhepburn4686
      @tawdryhepburn4686 Před 4 lety +264

      That would be the most amazing thing possible. Only thing better would be if he didn’t have a beard in one half.

    • @csours
      @csours Před 4 lety +94

      @@thisguydan And a bad CGI hand puppet.

    • @ElkiLG
      @ElkiLG Před 4 lety +115

      Don't forget the awkward, incomplete CGI beard removal.

    • @GeorgeKinsill
      @GeorgeKinsill Před 4 lety +68

      Also, him yelling and crying at a tennis ball, followed by a romantic scene that cuts to black.

  • @seamusburke639
    @seamusburke639 Před 7 měsíci +137

    The only thing Dan was wrong about was the cost of completing the Snyder Cut.
    He estimated $30 million, and finishing the Snyder Cut cost almost twice that.

    • @DaMaster012
      @DaMaster012 Před 3 měsíci +8

      You *also* got it wrong; Hack Snyder was given/spent an additional *$70 million* to finish _Hack Snyder's Justice League: The Hack Snyder Cut (A Film by Hack Snyder),_ so it cost OVER twice as much as Dan's initial estimate.
      ... And the added special effects STILL look just as atrocious as Superman's upper lip in Josstice League.
      And Steppanwolf's new design was so over complicated and eye-gougingly edgy that you could have convinced me that Fennah made it.

    • @roseolivas08
      @roseolivas08 Před 3 měsíci +9

      ​@@DaMaster012tell us how you really feel, mate

  • @KC-bb2bc
    @KC-bb2bc Před 3 lety +727

    Lord grant me the serenity to not read the comments, the courage to not read the comments, and the wisdom to not read the comments.

  • @asmodiusjones9563
    @asmodiusjones9563 Před 2 lety +716

    The only thing Dan didn’t predict in this video is the covid pandemic making release-on-streaming a much more palatable option for Warner Brothers for it, because what else could they do, and now it doesn’t have to live with the shame of being a direct-to-dvd release.

    • @theomegajuice8660
      @theomegajuice8660 Před rokem

      Frankly if Dan had predicted the covid pandemic and it's effects we should be worshipping him as a relgious profit and/or burning him as a witch

    • @edward4840
      @edward4840 Před 5 měsíci +10

      I don't know how he missed that

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Před 5 měsíci

      @@edward4840 fr

    • @leandervr
      @leandervr Před 5 měsíci +11

      Basically it's as prophetic as it could have been without a literal crystal ball.

  • @shadyguy23
    @shadyguy23 Před 4 lety +952

    "Again, X-Men Origins is highly instructive," is not a phrase I thought there'd be any context for.

    • @werwolfnate
      @werwolfnate Před 4 lety +30

      I've never been more interested in revisiting that movie now.

    • @becauseimafan
      @becauseimafan Před 2 lety +2

      @@werwolfnate Dude, _same_

    • @amberhernandez
      @amberhernandez Před 2 lety +12

      Something really neat that movie got right about "killing" Wolverine (that most other movies miss) is the Adamantium bullet to the brain. It doesn't do the job permanently, but it'll wipe his memories, effectively killing the person he was. Ironic that _that_ movie got it right out of all of them, hahaha

    • @madhackrviper
      @madhackrviper Před 2 lety +2

      Bad movies can be instructive on how not to make a movie. X-Men Origins: Wolverine is a masterclass on that topic lmao.

    • @jlaw131985
      @jlaw131985 Před rokem

      Failures are usually more instructive than successes...though honestly I think that there are better failures to learn from than it. I think it's most instructive in this case because of how much work-in-progress content is available.

  • @actualizedanimal
    @actualizedanimal Před 4 lety +1958

    The Snyder Cut is a technique no novice swordsman could hope to learn

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 Před 4 lety +29

      You need a Mihawk for that cut.

    • @stevelarry3870
      @stevelarry3870 Před 4 lety +20

      Violet N. The Snyder Cut is a talented swordsman who would never let fear best him in a fight.

    • @PanicGiraffe
      @PanicGiraffe Před 4 lety +34

      Forgive me master, I have to go all out, just this once.

    • @lordofgangstas
      @lordofgangstas Před 4 lety +51

      “Is it possible to learn this power?”
      “Not from the DCEU.”

    • @JayMarBu
      @JayMarBu Před 4 lety +6

      Kauswe Kazilimani I see your a man/woman of good culture friend

  • @youtub-fj8mu
    @youtub-fj8mu Před 3 lety +915

    The comments from people that didn't watch the video saying he was wrong, even though he predicted pretty much everything, are mildly annoying

    • @SteveJonesGamingGWO
      @SteveJonesGamingGWO Před 3 lety +10

      I'd point to 14:35 for something he was either wrong on or something because yeah everything he says about ego is the reality of the situation

    • @verikan4241
      @verikan4241 Před 3 lety +6

      I for one, am expecting his thoughts on the movie.

    • @MasterMemo
      @MasterMemo Před 3 lety +10

      @@SteveJonesGamingGWO 15:50 priorities changed.

    • @SteveJonesGamingGWO
      @SteveJonesGamingGWO Před 3 lety +8

      @@MasterMemo which in response I'll point put the now growing charges against both Whedon and WB, INCLUDING the still hired brass of racism and erasing black and Asian characters, including black women. AND people now demanding the reinstatement of Ray as cyborg and the restoring of the "Snydeverse" . welcome to a bigger PR nightmare... oh and that's still give them a huge metaphorical black eye

    • @dartvade1955
      @dartvade1955 Před 3 lety

      @@SteveJonesGamingGWO no dog it was racist out of the main cast one of the was black and that’s a greater percentage than the black population in America and he is an awful actor and a reason he only has 6 credits and now 7 with playing Cyborg in the same movie twice

  • @doom_delrey9736
    @doom_delrey9736 Před 4 lety +2411

    Snyder Cut is releasing in the exact way Dan posited, as an exclusive for HBO Max. He didn’t take an “L” here.

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Před 3 lety +122

      The so-called "Snyder cut" is also proof beyond doubt that THERE IS NO SNYDER CUT.
      It's going to include, of all things, images of unfilmed storyboards.
      That means there was never any finished movie by Snyder to cut, "director's" or otherwise.
      The mystery is resolved: there is no Snyder cut, there will never be a Snyder cut, and it's literally impossible that it ever existed.

    • @MarkFilipAnthony
      @MarkFilipAnthony Před 3 lety +33

      @@MegaZeta the snydercut everyone is talking about WAS a rough assemply cut snyder put together to show the studio.
      Thats it it never was and never will be anything else than that. It was never a "finnished movie"
      What we're getting now on HBO max is all his footage, finnished, polished, mixed and properly presented, including some few extra stuntpeople with cgi faces of actors
      Due to the pandemic, nothing was possible to re-shot or added on by the orginal cast. Maybe some dialouge, if we're lukcy maybe some greenscreen faces of minor actors.
      However the assembly cut/snydercut did have most of its footage in camera shot, simply as raw footage, and was edited to what would become the directors cut before the studio edit and before it would be proper worked on by vfx artists. However the music was mostly done, and most of the ADR was done

    • @QuikVidGuy
      @QuikVidGuy Před 3 lety +55

      @@MarkFilipAnthony millions of people were literally treating it like a finished film

    • @MarkFilipAnthony
      @MarkFilipAnthony Před 3 lety +21

      @@QuikVidGuy no, millions of people treated it as a directors vision that was never released.
      It wasnt about the movie but the story that was never told, most people simply didnt get what the movement was about. Specially the mainstream media

    • @tristanmayer5373
      @tristanmayer5373 Před 3 lety +21

      @@QuikVidGuy Nobody actually thought that. That's just a strawman argument by people wanting to dismiss the cut.

  • @xivCatumin
    @xivCatumin Před 4 lety +839

    When the Snyder Cut reaches a point that wasn't shot, it will just cut to a video of Snyder sitting in a chair going "Okay, so this scene was going to be..."

    • @pengwin_
      @pengwin_ Před 4 lety +2

      lol!

    • @tiagodarkpeasant
      @tiagodarkpeasant Před 4 lety +59

      @@DTBootlegs at least add some sitck man drawings to help visualize

    • @dcalltheway610
      @dcalltheway610 Před 4 lety +6

      Zack Shot Everything he wanted to, so no there won't be any " Explaining ".

    • @comicboxgoblin9234
      @comicboxgoblin9234 Před 4 lety +23

      ...Batman sucks Darksied off as Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern have a dance battle.

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco Před 4 lety +6

      @@DTBootlegs *Insert vfx here*

  • @stillvisionsmusic
    @stillvisionsmusic Před 4 lety +758

    The closest I’ve seen to releasing a whole raw movie is Robert Rodriguez released a bonus feature of Sin City with all the effects removed. They released it sped up and with no sound but it was really cool to see the raw footage. He did it as a way of showing how to shoot a movie relatively cheap with green screen and it was really cool.

    • @Fruckert
      @Fruckert Před 4 lety +85

      Something similar in a different medium is Devil May Cry 5 including pre-visualization cutscenes as an option. It's fascinating watching it in that state, but, well, it's not a movie and the rest of the game is still intact.

    • @XtheUnknown13
      @XtheUnknown13 Před 4 lety +53

      He also basically shot two different versions of Planet Terror. The boy in that movie was played by his son. One version of the film shows the boy surviving to the end, and another, the theatrical cut that we got, was the version where he died. Rodriguez said in the director's commentary that when he breaks the news to his son that there is no Santa Claus, "oh, by the way, you also died in Planet Terror."

    • @tropicalcatdetective
      @tropicalcatdetective Před 4 lety +8

      It’s an animated movie but I recall there being a work print version of Disney’s Beauty and the Beast turning up as a bonus feature on either the blu ray or DVD, which had come from an early edit of the film that had been screened for animation industry folk and some critics prior to the movie’s proper release. It would sort of jump between storyboards, rough animation and a few finished sequences throughout its runtime. I think there were also some unfinished vfx work and perhaps some temp voices for certain characters as part of the edit as well.

    • @Monkeyboy1138
      @Monkeyboy1138 Před 4 lety +5

      Kevin B Back when Warner released the Final Cut of Blade Runner, they released a tin box set that featured 5 different cuts of the film, including the work print. In that case because the movie released in 1982 when most effects were shot practically, it didn’t really look any different to what was released cinematically, just a little rougher.

    • @jennifervalentine8955
      @jennifervalentine8955 Před 4 lety +3

      I've seen two incomplete movies. One was the first Spongebob movie where one scene went to uncolored sketches, which was WEIRD. Like I guess the discount theater was showing a terrible early cut.
      The other was when I saw a pre-release of Mortal Kombat. And yeah some scenes were only black and white with incomplete effects. I can only imagine how skeletal Justice League was.

  • @names5354
    @names5354 Před 4 lety +3036

    I came back to re watch this video after the announcement of the cut ready to laugh at how this "aged like milk", but after finishing re watching I am now very impressed by how well Dan Olson can predict studio decisions. Also based on some of the new comments here I can tell a lot of you just read the tittle and commented instead of watching it, because for the most part Dan called it.

    • @tricksterhuaun
      @tricksterhuaun Před 4 lety +151

      You sir is a scholar for being a person with a brain who actually watched the video before commenting.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Před 3 lety +62

      I have give you recognition for letting yourself be open enough to give it an honest rewatch and change your view over digging in. Something that is far too rare and sorely needed.

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Před 3 lety +57

      Speaking with exacting accuracy, Dan is *_too_* optimistic about the "Snyder cut".
      It seems instead that reports of initial photography not even being completed before Snyder left were true, and the "Snyder cut" will include still storyboards never filmed.
      So, we now know for certain that the Snyder cut is much more "nonexistent" than "existent". If we don't mince words: we now know for certain there is no Snyder cut.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 3 lety +125

      It's almost as if someone who professionally works on movies knows more about movie production than a bunch of Snyder fanboys.

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds Před 3 lety

      @@tricksterhuaun Maybe not have a confusing title?

  • @AdmiralBobbery123
    @AdmiralBobbery123 Před 4 lety +2569

    The only things this video got wrong was
    -the release date (2021, not 2020)
    -it being a long series and not a movie
    he literally predicted everything else

    • @onslaught147
      @onslaught147 Před 4 lety +394

      Right? It's kind of amazing, really shows he understands the industry. It also makes it extra hilarious how many people are trying to say he was wrong, obviously going on nothing but the title and not bothering to watch the whole video.

    • @nahuelahpa1881
      @nahuelahpa1881 Před 4 lety +5

      @@onslaught147 he is wrong, and so are you, you people just have a hard time dealing with reality, you dont know what to do with all your excuses and misinformation

    • @matthewlinus4691
      @matthewlinus4691 Před 4 lety +225

      @@nahuelahpa1881 how is he wrong? please note, you have to actually watch the video first.

    • @gazeboist4535
      @gazeboist4535 Před 3 lety +216

      @@matthewlinus4691 Well you see Zack Snyder is a magic golden god of modern cinema, just like Jayjaybrams and Whedon (except when in conflict with Snyder). Therefore the Snyder cut is fully complete in his mind and just needs to be downloaded from the Snydbrain and converted to mp4.

    • @davidv4018
      @davidv4018 Před 3 lety +11

      When people who knows how it works, it is not so much about predictions nor conspiracy theories.

  • @PhilosophyTube
    @PhilosophyTube Před 4 lety +3671

    Dan: "Depending on your definition of exist"
    Me: "O_o"

    • @vexaris1890
      @vexaris1890 Před 4 lety +31

      Oh hi there

    • @elvellarambles9151
      @elvellarambles9151 Před 4 lety +104

      Uh oh, thinky-man is on the existence question 🤣

    • @TheGamblingisgood
      @TheGamblingisgood Před 4 lety +45

      Turns out the ontological argument can be applied to superhero movie editing. Anselm would be so proud.

    • @matiastoatv
      @matiastoatv Před 4 lety +50

      ...But what is existence? *Vsauce music plays*

    • @Jayfive276
      @Jayfive276 Před 4 lety +1

      Oh great, now big channels are using childish greentext memes.

  • @elmer4090
    @elmer4090 Před 4 lety +1770

    An overly serious Zack Snyder film with special effects that look like they belong on a cheap kid's TV show would be the funniest thing ever

    • @lordofgangstas
      @lordofgangstas Před 4 lety +38

      I would love it so much

    • @casperchristiansen2458
      @casperchristiansen2458 Před 4 lety +168

      Give Zack Snyder the budget of a single "Power Rangers" episode and see what he does with it.

    • @evanhenderson9461
      @evanhenderson9461 Před 4 lety +76

      @@casperchristiansen2458 that's honestly exactly where he would shine the most ngl

    • @rajathyagaraj1061
      @rajathyagaraj1061 Před 4 lety +4

      Casper Christiansen you mean like power rangers unauthorised?

    • @plankcaller
      @plankcaller Před 4 lety +35

      Oh my god I had never even remotely considered serious Snyder with shitty effects. Now I really want to watch it.
      Bring it on, Release the Snyder Cut, I'll join these weirdos in their crusade.

  • @SmartSmears
    @SmartSmears Před 4 lety +385

    In the end, you were right. The money that could be made from releasing it on HBO Max ultimately ended up getting this made.

    • @tristanmayer5373
      @tristanmayer5373 Před 3 lety +2

      No, he was wrong. He spent the entire first 75% of the video saying it wouldn't happen.

    •  Před 3 lety

      @UltraPlushie you want to stay delusional be my guest.

    • @KingBobXVI
      @KingBobXVI Před 3 lety +37

      @@tristanmayer5373 - No, he was absolutely correct. You can make a statement that is true today that becomes incorrect in the context of a future date. That doesn't make it retroactively false.
      At the time this video was made, there absolutely was not a completed separate version of the film as directed by Snyder. It did not exist, most likely for all the reasons this video mentions. They _later_ made it, for the exact reasons he says they _might_ make it in the last 25% of the video.
      It's like, if you wrote "it's cold outside" in the winter, and I came back in the summer to say, "um, actually, it's warm outside", the fact that the weather is different between seasons doesn't mean your statement was wrong or a lie. That would be dumb.

    • @cognitivedissonance8406
      @cognitivedissonance8406 Před 3 lety

      @CamelMan302
      In all its awful glory

  • @almightytallestred
    @almightytallestred Před 4 lety +363

    To everyone who's here to gloat, I suggest watching this last part 15:55 where Dan predicts pretty much exactly what is happening now: WB is using the "Snyder Cut" as a teaser to draw subscribers to Warner Media's streaming platform HBO Max when it launches.

  • @PranavanathanYoganathan
    @PranavanathanYoganathan Před 4 lety +1373

    So its Schrodinger's Cut?

    • @tawdryhepburn4686
      @tawdryhepburn4686 Před 4 lety +36

      Pranavanathan Yoganathan oh my goodness. You’re a genius.

    • @MarkFilipAnthony
      @MarkFilipAnthony Před 4 lety +58

      Lol that is actually pretty accurate!
      It exsists because we know its there in the box and its real, but if somone would open and see what it is its not what most people think it is, so then Its technically not there

    • @sorryifoldcomment8596
      @sorryifoldcomment8596 Před 4 lety +7

      Bravo 👏👏

    • @corytharp6940
      @corytharp6940 Před 4 lety +6

      Bravo!

    • @kauswekazilimani3736
      @kauswekazilimani3736 Před 4 lety +2

      eeeyyyyyy!

  • @Kadi_Fedoruk
    @Kadi_Fedoruk Před 4 lety +602

    The Howl's Moving Castle dvd had the entire movie in storyboard form, which was amazing to watch. Not quite the same thing as a workprint, but a similar behind the scenes sort of idea.

    • @jvit4245
      @jvit4245 Před 4 lety +13

      28 Days Later did a similar thing for the original ending they were thinking of going with until they pivoted towards the Military compound. Regardless of the story told it was an interesting view on how they wanted to show their direction.

    • @PassiveNights
      @PassiveNights Před 4 lety +6

      I think Mad Max Fury Road did it too

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 4 lety +21

      A storyboard isn't the animation equivalent of a workprint, but it's about as close as you're going to get.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 3 lety +1

      I don't remember this on my DVD, and I always watched all of the special features, listened to all the commentary, etc. Was it available in PAL land? Was it only for two disc releases?

    • @Kadi_Fedoruk
      @Kadi_Fedoruk Před 3 lety +7

      @@kaitlyn__L I have the Howl's Moving Castle DVD from 2004, and yes, it was on the second disc-- weirdly, when I look at the DVD it just says "storyboards" and not what it actually is, which is the entire movie afaik (it's been awhile) in storyboard form. Hopefully that helps!

  • @grantca8204
    @grantca8204 Před 4 lety +938

    People gloating that Dan was wrong clearly didn't actually the watch the video lol.
    He didn't say the film doesn't exist. His point was the film didn't exist in the way people would expect it to and that sfx heavy movies are made so piecemeal that calling the cut Snyder had at that point a "finished" film was misleading.
    Now I'm curious to see the final cut now and what changes they make

    • @andrewp6738
      @andrewp6738 Před 4 lety +145

      He also predicted exactly the one scenario in which the Snyder Cut would be released - to promote signups for HBO Max. Dude knows his shit

    • @Reverse_Hood
      @Reverse_Hood Před 4 lety +64

      Snyder Cultists aren't known for their intelligence

    • @Arian545
      @Arian545 Před 4 lety +27

      Dan was pretty much spot on with everything

    • @mburumorris3166
      @mburumorris3166 Před 3 lety +2

      The filming was finished , everyone knew that . VFX was not .

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Před 3 lety +14

      Huh? Dan is *_too_* optimistic about the "Snyder cut".
      We now know for a fact that it does not exist.
      It seems instead that reports of initial photography not even being completed before Snyder left were true, and the "Snyder cut" will include still storyboards never filmed.
      So, we now know for certain that the Snyder cut is much more "nonexistent" than "existent". If we don't mince words: we now 100% know there is no Snyder cut.

  • @Fire_Score_Maximum
    @Fire_Score_Maximum Před 3 měsíci +17

    I would love to see a sequel to this video regarding the current situation regarding Warner Brothers from a political and economic perspective, just like this video.
    There’s a lot of controversy regarding shows being removed from HBO Max, tax write-offs, shelved/canceled projects, and the possibility of finished movies like Coyote vs. ACME planning to be deleted.
    I would love to see Dan talk about what led up Warners taking this path of PR disasters with audiences and Staff members.

  • @thisguydan
    @thisguydan Před 4 lety +403

    Folding Ideas lured us in with the promise to teach us about the Snyder Cut. He secretly taught us so much more about production and distribution in the film industry. Great video.

    • @The80sWolf_
      @The80sWolf_ Před 4 lety

      But the clip already got old when Snyder after it revelead that the cgi is done

    • @davesvens8697
      @davesvens8697 Před 3 lety +2

      Oh no, the deception.
      The betrayal of trust!

  • @littlefieryone2825
    @littlefieryone2825 Před 4 lety +236

    "It will probably at least be a really interesting comparison."
    *foreshadowing*

  • @LifeisPain6969
    @LifeisPain6969 Před 4 lety +69

    The Synder Cut is actually Synder’s cut of the money this film made. He just so happens to put it in a film canister.

  • @maxresdefault_
    @maxresdefault_ Před 3 lety +129

    Peeps be looking at the title and saying that the video "aged poorly" when the entire video was spent defending the existance of the cut in some state.

  • @YggdrasilMedia
    @YggdrasilMedia Před 4 lety +856

    This is great simply as a breakdown of what post production on a Hollywood blockbuster entails. People outside the industry have some pretty wild ideas of how movies get made.

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs Před 4 lety +13

      I mostly know because I enjoy bad movies--and have heard of Manos Hands of Fate.

    • @The80sWolf_
      @The80sWolf_ Před 4 lety +8

      Why not go to Jay Oliva on twitter and ask? Or Zack Snyder on Vero and ask?

    • @YggdrasilMedia
      @YggdrasilMedia Před 4 lety +18

      Katrina Payne You can learn a lot from bad movies!

    • @dracocrusher
      @dracocrusher Před 4 lety +44

      @@The80sWolf_ Because he'd either not respond or give a vague lie. The reality is that the Snyder Cut isn't finished and it honestly wouldn't be that good, anyways, which is why the studio put so much more faith in Snyder's replacement, instead. And now that his reputation is tarnished by his previous big mistakes, he has no motive to actually be honest about the quality or completeness of his own movie.

    • @lordodysseus
      @lordodysseus Před 4 lety +8

      The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition Trilogy comes with about 20 hours behind the scenes footage. 6 2.5-5 hour movies basically. Two for each movie. Plus 4 commentaries per movie.

  • @FrancoDFernando
    @FrancoDFernando Před 3 lety +77

    The people saying this aged poorly obviously didn't watch the entire video

    • @PrincessNine
      @PrincessNine Před 3 lety +1

      But its good and its length isn't an issue. Soooo

    • @corronchilejano
      @corronchilejano Před 3 lety +2

      @@PrincessNine it's a four hour movie. It's easy to release digitally so people watch at their own pace.
      But let's not say this movie would be watchable at a theater.

    • @GalanDun
      @GalanDun Před 2 lety

      @@corronchilejano It was supposed to be two films lol

    • @corronchilejano
      @corronchilejano Před 2 lety

      @@GalanDun receipts? Because as I understand, it was supposed to be a trilogy, and only the first film got made.

    • @GalanDun
      @GalanDun Před 2 lety

      @@corronchilejano Uh, it was fairly highly publicized that the scripts for Justice League Part 1 and 2 got rewritten into one movie prior to filming.

  • @poseidonson13
    @poseidonson13 Před 4 lety +685

    Hey there, buddy. I see you're on your way to comment "this aged well lol"
    Well before you do that, do me a favor and watch the video from 12:57 before you click "comment"

    • @mlovecraftr
      @mlovecraftr Před 4 lety +20

      Thank you

    • @DaRunningMan
      @DaRunningMan Před 4 lety +11

      Uh no, buddy. Dan Olson is nothing but a snooty, obnoxious hipster with disgusting taste and is nothing but a pure hypocrite. For example, he claims he is against racism and points at the right for being racist but he himself does nothing when Hollywood practices racism like with all of their whitewash casting as he has ignored it again and again. His taste in movies is horrible and very AngloSaxon. For example, like many hipster morons in movie blogs Dan believe that fantasy related action films like superhero movies or movies like Assassin Creed should be all comedies even though the source material actually took themselves seriously. This entire anti Zack Synder video here was nothing but him talking out of his own behind. He is so arrogant that he actually thought he was right when he reality he had no idea what he was talking about. What Dan should do is stick to masturbating to Wes Anderson's horrible movies and keep out of general movie discussions because he doesn't really know what he is talking about.

    • @B.-T.
      @B.-T. Před 4 lety +223

      @@DaRunningMan Way to prove how little you watch Dan's content because among his many criticisms of the Earthsea mini-series was the extreme whitewashing of its protagonists.

    • @RawbeardX
      @RawbeardX Před 4 lety +83

      @@DaRunningMan you mad bro? gonna cry?

    • @Cursed_Mark
      @Cursed_Mark Před 4 lety +145

      @@DaRunningMan "His taste in movies is horrible and very AngloSaxon"
      I'm sure that sounded good in your head.

  • @poego6045
    @poego6045 Před 4 lety +417

    TBH, this actually got me hyped for the cut. Not because I give a shit about it or Justice League, but I would love if this started a trend of workprints being released more regularly so we can appreciate what went into the film, as well as possible directions it could have gone.

    • @BrainLapseFilms
      @BrainLapseFilms Před 4 lety +33

      I've wanted work prints to be an extra on Blu-ray releases ever since I saw A Scanner Darkly and then the single scene that seems to exist of raw footage. If this starts a new trend I'll be over the moon, and if it does enough to get a raw footage scanner darkly I might implode.

    • @sorryifoldcomment8596
      @sorryifoldcomment8596 Před 4 lety +14

      Yeah I am always fascinated by behind the scenes of films especially on the final photography and VFX end (shout out to IBM CZcams channel). It would be awesome to see a workprint.

    • @almostshawn3230
      @almostshawn3230 Před 4 lety +17

      @@sorryifoldcomment8596 I love the pre-Alderan blow up scene in Star Wars. it's a few seconds on one of the bonus materials, but it's great when you just see a guy go "bang!" and Carrie Fisher falls down, crying because her non-existent planet just went "bang"

    • @BrightBlueInk
      @BrightBlueInk Před 4 lety +9

      Getting to see a workprint would be amazing to me, too. I feel like so many people either became film nerds or entered the industry because of the hours of documentary content in the LOTR extended editions sparking a love of the process of making a film, and I feel like it's been a long time since we've gotten extra features that have been that in depth.

    • @lettuce7539
      @lettuce7539 Před 4 lety +1

      SNYDER CUT IN 2021 ON HBO MAX, HELL YEAH!

  • @LithiumThiefMusic
    @LithiumThiefMusic Před 4 lety +585

    It turns out the real Snyder Cut was inside you all along

    • @Meda01
      @Meda01 Před 4 lety +12

      How do I get it out!?

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco Před 4 lety +6

      @@Meda01 Bite down on some wood, we're going in with knives

    • @BerserkerGoji9973
      @BerserkerGoji9973 Před 4 lety +3

      The real Snyder Cut was the friends we made along the way.

    • @RoamingAdhocrat
      @RoamingAdhocrat Před 4 lety

      The first Snyder Cut is the deepest.

  • @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide
    @DarkSideOfTheBrightSide Před 3 lety +103

    🍷: *[aged with grace, and maturity]*

  • @jams8015
    @jams8015 Před 4 lety +325

    reminder: nothing in this video has been proven incorrect by the announcement

    • @DubiousConsumption
      @DubiousConsumption Před 4 lety +18

      It feels like COVID may have finally tipped it over the edge. They aren't able to create new media until at least mid July, but they could possibly hire FX artists to work on it until next year's release.

    • @PunkNStein
      @PunkNStein Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah, going with you're incorrect

    • @blokey8
      @blokey8 Před 4 lety +20

      What's been said about the cost of completing the cut certainly suggests that. A DC exec has been quoted as saying he "wished" that it was only $30million. That suggests at least a lot of CGI to be added.

    • @mburumorris3166
      @mburumorris3166 Před 3 lety +2

      @@DubiousConsumption Movie was greenlit in Nov b4 COVID .When Covid hit WB asked Zack to wait but Zack said he will continue with post production

    • @alexh8952
      @alexh8952 Před 3 lety +6

      @The Dolphin Police he literally said that it exists depending on what you mean, like, the movie itself won't even be ready until next year, and that's with tens of millions being pumped into re editing, editing scenes that were cut etc etc. It's by no means a finished cut that was shoved off. It's a cut that was shelved before it was ever a full film

  • @russianboss0378
    @russianboss0378 Před 4 lety +140

    The Snyder Cut is the most expensive part of the cow that goes to all those high-end restaurants.

  • @burningflag3679
    @burningflag3679 Před 4 lety +668

    There is now a "theory" about the Sonic movie. "They released a bad version of sonic while having a good version the whole time". That is not how movies work. CZcams really needs more videos like this.

    • @steve7745
      @steve7745 Před 4 lety +51

      Ok but also arguably, they wouldn't have been able to reanimate and recut the movie entirely around the backlash they faced from the original design considering the amount of time and effort animation takes, so I can sort of see where the theory comes from. That being said, crunch time is a thing, even with as difficult as tge animation process is, and I personally don't think the theory is true, especially considering how much of a budget and team a production of such a popular IP would have to speed up and streamline the process.

    • @elin111
      @elin111 Před 4 lety +100

      Fanboys who don't know anything about anything always go around ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theories like that and clickbait CZcamsrs jump on them for easy views which only results in that misinformation bieng further spread. The whole Snydercut movement is basically that, rumors and misniformation being picked up by CZcamsrs who don't bother to do any research.

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco Před 4 lety +96

      Having an entire studio go under as a result of doing two versions of a movie doesn't seem like a very clever marketing ploy

    • @burningflag3679
      @burningflag3679 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Feasco "nods" once I realized it was a serious video couldn't even keep watching

    • @TooCooFoYou
      @TooCooFoYou Před 4 lety +25

      The redesign of the Sonic film changed it from “so bad it’s good” to just a generic kids film.

  • @t.a6159
    @t.a6159 Před 3 lety +69

    Anyone saying "this did not age well" , needs to watch the video first.

    • @KingBobXVI
      @KingBobXVI Před 3 lety +6

      These people probably lack object permanence...

  • @ShirDeutch
    @ShirDeutch Před 3 lety +307

    I hope you're already working on a follow up video titled "I was 100% correct about the Snyder Cut" that starts with the footage of you predicting it will come to HBO Max. It probably won't shut all these people who didn't even bother to actually watch the video up but it's worth a try.

  • @JeevesAnthrozaurUS
    @JeevesAnthrozaurUS Před 4 lety +247

    I demand that every film have a version where all the 3D models are constantly T-Posing
    C'mon, Hollywood, do what's right

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Před 3 lety

      that would be so great

    • @thrownstair
      @thrownstair Před 3 lety +1

      It’s unlikely, but if I ever direct an special effects blockbuster, or if anyone I know does, I’ll lobby for a work print or two to be available alongside a director’s cut.

  • @Katy133
    @Katy133 Před 4 lety +373

    You did a great job of explaining what a rough cut or a "work draft" of a film/series looks like months before it is released to the public.
    This is basically what many professional animators such as myself would see and help work on until a project is completed. I'm glad to see you making a comprehensive video on this, because I don't think this is a thing that is talked about in as much detail as it could be, despite behind the scene featurettes and documentaries continually being made.

    • @chooseymomschoose
      @chooseymomschoose Před 4 lety +10

      Exactly. Making movies is complicated, kids. A "Snyder Cut" special release would have to make a profit off of $40M worth of SFX? Not gonna happen.

    • @kloserlook
      @kloserlook Před 4 lety +1

      chooseymomschoose lol

  • @spankytag
    @spankytag Před 3 lety +112

    If Dan does a follow up video he should title it
    “I was(not) wrong about the Synder Cut”

    • @Samuel-th6fw
      @Samuel-th6fw Před 2 lety +9

      The Snyder Cut: 2.0 I was (not) wrong.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před rokem +7

      I would _love_ a follow-up video where Dan laments that we didn't get a workprint and then compares the Snyder Cut to the theatrical _Justice League._

  • @B.-T.
    @B.-T. Před 4 lety +266

    Pretty telling that all the Snyderbro "film buffs" are coming here saying "you were wrong/this aged like milk/etc". They're not the types to even watch actual videos about film/media analysis, so they didn't watch this one.

    • @UnknownUser-gd3ls
      @UnknownUser-gd3ls Před 4 lety +12

      Gotta love the pretentious undertone with all of you who decided to come back to reply to the Snyder Cut supporters.

    • @B.-T.
      @B.-T. Před 4 lety +86

      @@UnknownUser-gd3ls Totally unlike what you're currently doing.

    • @frenchguitarguy1091
      @frenchguitarguy1091 Před 4 lety +31

      Unknown User your comment ages worse than this video.

    • @nahuelahpa1881
      @nahuelahpa1881 Před 4 lety +2

      haters like you just cant handle that they lost, they put so much effort lying, spreading misinformation, and doing all kinds of bullshit for all of it to just explode in your faces, we are getting a Justice League movie and you cant do anything about it

    • @izs6946
      @izs6946 Před 3 lety +27

      @@nahuelahpa1881 Well i just found out this video and the guy speaking is already spot on his theory on what releasing snyder cut would look like and where it would be released that I thought this was just uploaded weeks ago

  • @poseidonson13
    @poseidonson13 Před 4 lety +196

    The Snyder Cut is complete but was never released because all the foley is just Zac Snyder making sound effects with his mouth and hitting his desk.

    • @TheStanishStudios
      @TheStanishStudios Před 4 lety +16

      *flashes back to Snyder interrupting Hans Zimmer to explain music as “BWAAAAM”*

    • @fanboy50
      @fanboy50 Před 3 lety +1

      Honestly the odds of me watching it would triple if that were the case.

  • @nathanhoffmann1747
    @nathanhoffmann1747 Před 4 lety +171

    FWIW, Into The Spiderverse has a work print alternate version on the Blu-ray as a bonus feature.

    • @EngineerLume
      @EngineerLume Před 4 lety +19

      That would be very interesting to see in relation to a live-action film, especially since Spiderverse uses some techniques not normally done in 3D.

    • @c17sam90
      @c17sam90 Před 4 lety +4

      Beauty and the beast as well but I’m guessing the rules for animation maybe different

    • @theoriginalsache
      @theoriginalsache Před 4 lety +17

      Part of it is different processes and part of it is different expectations. An unfinished drawing plays differently than floating tennis balls.

    • @kylefaber9238
      @kylefaber9238 Před 4 lety +2

      Animation is not covered by most of the major guilds/unions (at least the Writer's Guild & Director's Guild, probably more) and therefore has much fewer rules it needs to adhere to.

  • @graefx
    @graefx Před 3 lety +80

    I'm amazed how accurate this all was down to the dollar amount. Still would be curious to see a revisit now that it's out

    • @movimentodoscacos
      @movimentodoscacos Před 2 lety +1

      would love some exploration of technical aspects of the Snyder cut in comparison to the theatrical release, maybe about editing etc

  • @remi1771
    @remi1771 Před 6 měsíci +19

    I've just seen the video, and am/was out of the loop. I'm impressed, that after searching for it, you basically predicted how it would happen with the hbo and everything lol

  • @some_shiptoster
    @some_shiptoster Před 4 lety +313

    I think the Snyder Cut would be better served as a (maybe digital) comic done to the exact specification of Snyder. He would had greater creative liberty, way lower cost, it wouldn't conflict with the movie and could even be released as an extra. It's literally a DC superhero comic book story.

    • @no-man_baugh
      @no-man_baugh Před 4 lety +26

      The circle of life

    • @CabezasDePescado
      @CabezasDePescado Před 4 lety +5

      yeah, at the very least they should do something like that

    • @ninjaeddy1717
      @ninjaeddy1717 Před 4 lety +13

      Sounds like those Robocop comics that were based on Frank Millers original scripts for Robocop 2

    • @tyspyranger
      @tyspyranger Před 4 lety +14

      Plus the change in medium would distract from the fact it's setting up movies that never came to be

    • @bryymiller2475
      @bryymiller2475 Před 4 lety

      100% this.

  • @heeeyyy2947
    @heeeyyy2947 Před 4 lety +113

    ah yes: my favorite of the Evangelion reboots!

  • @billhickswasgreat3421
    @billhickswasgreat3421 Před 4 lety +168

    I find it hilarious that people feel that this video has aged badly :)

    • @DaRunningMan
      @DaRunningMan Před 4 lety +4

      I find it hilarious that you sycophantic hipster followers of your obnoxious hipster god, Dan Olson, think that this video was right. His actual prediction in this video is that it won't ever be released and if it did it won't be in a finished form. Then at the end he reports on a rumor that Zack Synder fans were supporting since late last year about HBO MAX which is not his prediction.

    • @cashmerenerd
      @cashmerenerd Před 4 lety +73

      @@DaRunningMan fortunately, the topic of the video is not that. it's an explanation about what a work print is and what state does the film exist in - all correct. one prediction being incorrect does not mean the video aged badly, because it's just that, a prediction, the point is it might be incorrect.

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco Před 4 lety +44

      @@DaRunningMan u mad bro

    • @p.h.i.lcongure9168
      @p.h.i.lcongure9168 Před 4 lety +21

      @Gnome de Plume he’s been spamming hate in this comment section.

    • @tristanmayer5373
      @tristanmayer5373 Před 3 lety +3

      He literally said that it probably won't happen and that WB won't go for it for tons of reasons that are proven wrong now. Saying "hey maybe there's an off chance that it could get released incomplete but probably not because Snyder Bad and Me Good" is not being right.

  • @C_JR_M
    @C_JR_M Před 4 lety +31

    when this video's comments got split into '5 days ago' and '5 months ago' you know the DC fans were involved

  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals Před 4 lety +191

    Love that you are making more videos now! Your early videos were extremely important for me.

  • @lanceareadbhar
    @lanceareadbhar Před 3 lety +76

    I really appreciated the comment that you don't spend $350 million to make a small return. A lot of people think that just because a movie made money that it can't be a failure. It is a failure if you were expecting it to make at leasf $600 million and instead only made $400 million as that $200 million difference was likely planned to be used for future projects that could later get scrapped.

    • @cea6770
      @cea6770 Před rokem +3

      Also the budget for movies only report the production budget, excluding the marketing, and the box office revenue does not include the cut of revenue taken by theaters and international distribution companies. A blockbuster movie typically needs to make 2-3 times the budget in order to actually make money for the producers (primarily streaming / home release and indie films with limited release can make money with a smaller multiplier on the budget).

  • @hughjass6086
    @hughjass6086 Před 4 lety +350

    Guys, he isn't wrong. The "Snyder Cut" being released wasn't real when this video was made. They're basically making a new version of the movie, which is why it's being released in 2021 and not now, because it isn't actually finished. His speculation on why they would've even released it is correct too!

    • @tellemstevedave5559
      @tellemstevedave5559 Před 4 lety +7

      No it isn't. They've had most of the footage. It's just visual effects.

    • @Jaqen-HGhar
      @Jaqen-HGhar Před 4 lety +60

      @@tellemstevedave5559 yeah that's why the rumor is that some of the actors are coming back to reshoot completely new scenes. If it was just visual effects it would be taking that long. The Sonic movie had to completely replace their main character in every single shot and they still didn't take that long. So if this movie was supposedly done and it's just footage lying around that just needs to be cleaned up then it shouldn't take more than 6 months to put out. Especially since they've had more than enough time to have had it ready for the launch of this service.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před 4 lety +51

      @@tellemstevedave5559 Yeah, "just" VFX. Hey, wasn't a big chunk of the video pointing out how much modern superhero movies change when you add VFX?

    • @Chenso2099
      @Chenso2099 Před 4 lety +3

      Well, they also have to include Junkie XL’s score and work it in. Who knows? Maybe they’ll make new tracks and original music for it as originally intended. The VFX, voice over, inclusion of new scenes and shots, editing and music will most likely take a good year or so.

    • @nillson7580
      @nillson7580 Před 4 lety +3

      VFX is important & expensive.But it isnt the most important or expensive thing in this process.Writing & filming is.Just the damn finished script itself is a huge fuckin deal from a filmmaking standpoint.The making of that 3hr+ footage snyder is talking about was probably the most effort,time & money consuming thing the JL crew ever did.Set-building is expensive.actors,crew & every other person who had something to do with it got paid.This part took the major share from that original $300billion+ budget.The "it didnt exist if vfx wasnt there argument" is some next level bs

  • @SJKlapecki
    @SJKlapecki Před 3 lety +46

    The folk commenting that the "cut exists" didn't watch the video. This video is basically saying that a draft existed, that some overbloated mess of a movie without special effects existed, but was not translated into a final cut. The "snyder cut" of a film didn't exist, and the "snyder cut" of justice league as so many Snyder stans envisioned it didn't exist. Y'all are saying "AHAH, NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE ONE!!!" and treating it as a rebuttal.
    No.
    The "cut" that existed was like a beta-reader's first draft, an unedited mess of bullshit that vaguely resembled the finished product, if that. When people were declaring the "SNYDER CUT EXISTS" they didn't mean a 4-5 hour mess with no CGI, they meant a movie. There was no "snyder cut" movie, just drafts and possibilities. Whoever runs the streaming shit didn't fucking "release" a snyder cut, they're making one. It didn't exist, and it also did.
    This video is about the film-making process, your movie that you insist on stanning for a director and universe that simply don't deserve it, did not exist in a watchable form. It was not a movie, it was a compilation of clips to be made into a proper movie.
    Jesus, people watch a video to the end before your tribalistic adoration of a film takes over.

  • @laurenbastin8849
    @laurenbastin8849 Před 3 lety +81

    holy shit almost everything Dan said was right, even down to ego (WB didn’t agree to the SC until they were ordered to by their parent company in order to capitalise on that attention)

  • @jdazzani
    @jdazzani Před 4 lety +107

    The Schrodinger's Cut

  • @EvanSol919
    @EvanSol919 Před 3 lety +174

    Wow, it's amazing how many people clearly didn't watch the video.

  • @albertoespinoza5796
    @albertoespinoza5796 Před 3 lety +42

    I still can't believe you predicted almost everything to a tee

  • @letsgetfunky3856
    @letsgetfunky3856 Před 4 lety +189

    You Can (Not) Fold Ideas

  • @XiremaXesirin
    @XiremaXesirin Před 4 lety +472

    Don't mind me, I'm just here to witness the Snyderbros in the comments who, high on their self-satisfaction and lacking in situational awareness, seem to be showing up to this video to dunk on Dan, and in doing so, are outing the fact that they never watched the video, which accurately predicted exactly what WB/HBO literally announced would happen.
    Literally the only things he got wrong were A) assuming Snyder would self-fund the project, B) assuming it would be available with the launch of the service, and C) that it would still be a movie, and not a 4-6 part mini series.

    • @DaRunningMan
      @DaRunningMan Před 4 lety +12

      It didn't predict anything. This video is mostly Dan collecting new items while being a petty little creep by sliding in his contempt for Zack Synder. Dan Olson is an insufferable hipster with horrendous taste and disgusting cynicism. Not to mention hypocrite by acting like he is against racism but when it comes to POC characters getting whitewashed he downplays it (Eathsea), ignores it (The Last Airbender) or flat out says he doesn't care (Netflix's Deathnote). And this anti-Synder video he did was just pandering to his audience of subhuman hipsters who think anything that isn't a pretentious bore of a movie needs to always be a comedy. He wishes all fantasy based action films would be like Marvel Studio's horrible movies that go against their own source material by filling the movies with so many jokes they are on the verge of parody.
      According to him no superhero comic book even if it took itself seriously in the source material should ever be adapted accurately (i.e. with a serious tone) because nerdy hipsters like Danny need to do the nerdy chuckle all the time. So Danny boy here ignores people who literally worked on Synder's Justice League who have directly responded to comments from people like him who have claimed otherwise about the Synder Cut (e.g. Jay Oliva, Junkie XL) so that he can push his hipster hatred of Zack Synder. That includes his condescending tone throughout like referring to comments from Synder supporters as "conspiracy theories" and "wishful thinking", making sure to call the social media Synder communicates on, Vero, as "twitter but empty, claiming the Synder Cut isn't any better than the Joss Whedon Cut, etc... He is a backwards miserable twerp in more way than one.

    • @RevOptimism
      @RevOptimism Před 4 lety +94

      DaRunningMan Oh my god, you would bend over backwards this much just to defend Zack Snyder? Don’t worry bro, I don’t think he’s a completely terrible director. He’s an above average visual stylist but a terrible storyteller. Take a chill pill man.

    • @p.h.i.lcongure9168
      @p.h.i.lcongure9168 Před 4 lety +86

      DaRunningMan sorry he doesn’t kiss the ground Zack Snyder walks on. Actually watch the video

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Před 3 lety +21

      Speaking with exacting accuracy, Dan is *_too_* optimistic about the "Snyder cut".
      It seems instead that reports of initial photography not even being completed before Snyder left were true, and the "Snyder cut" will include still storyboards never filmed.
      So, we now know for certain that the Snyder cut is much more "nonexistent" than "existent". If we don't mince words: we now 100% know there is no Snyder cut.

    • @tacitus5665
      @tacitus5665 Před 3 lety +3

      You know what's funny? All of the people coming here saying that he was right and arrogantly putting the "Snyder bros down", when I've not seen a single comment saying what people are claiming those accursed Snyder bros are flooding the comment section with, while all of the comments I've seen, all of the top comments, are almost exclusively filled with people defending Dan and bashing the Snyder bros.
      That people are so up in arms about an attack that for all I can see never took place, really encapsulates the self indulgent arrogance and unjustified vitriol against almost anything Snyder of the people who usually criticise him. Sure, you might find people who have a measured opinion but those are not within the crowd of the people who are outwardly critical that's for sure, and who, as might be expected, have been attracted by this video.
      Why are people so hell bent on either loving or hating Snyder or deciding what he is or isn't? I don't see that for any other directors, idk, maybe it speaks for Snyder being willing to be "controversial" in the literal meaning of the word not what is usually associated with it...
      (Yes, Copy paste, if you spot this comment somewhere else here)

  • @emforsyth2100
    @emforsyth2100 Před 3 lety +98

    I’m just rewatching this hoping he’ll make a video talking about the Snyder cut vs the theatrical
    He was so spot on about all this stuff that it’s cool to watch this video in hindsight

  • @PhilTheBronxite
    @PhilTheBronxite Před 4 lety +148

    So you called it. It will cost 30 million dollars to finish it 👍
    Update: it is now going to cost 70 million 🤣

    •  Před 3 lety

      Not to finish, but to add new scenes. And 30 million is nothing for Hollywood film, especially 4 hours one.

    • @tacitus5665
      @tacitus5665 Před 3 lety +2

      Idk what's funny here, noticing there is something implied though I'm not sure what

  • @cheezemonkeyeater
    @cheezemonkeyeater Před 4 lety +108

    "Following the sudden death of his daughter . . ."
    Damn, now I gotta remember that I feel bad for Zack Snyder.

    • @BrightBlueInk
      @BrightBlueInk Před 4 lety +31

      Yeah, that whole story was rough. I really hope leaving the movie helped him and his family during that time.

    • @phastinemoon
      @phastinemoon Před 4 lety +40

      You can feel bad for a personal tragedy and still think that the person you’re sorry for is bad at their job. Because that’s definitely true in this case.

    • @sbi168
      @sbi168 Před 4 lety +6

      @Sam Paget indeed. I love Dawn of the dead, watchmen, mos and bvs. Owls of ga'hoole was also very good. I didn't like 300 much or sucker punch. The guy is not bad at his job. He is a good director that sometimes makes the wrong choice like every director on the planet.

    • @vadalia3860
      @vadalia3860 Před 4 lety +8

      @@sbi168 The problem with the idea that's he's a good director who just made some bad choices is that Justice League was his third time working with one of these characters and second time with two of the others... none of whom's previous portrayals by him were particularly well received. Instead of learning from criticisms of the previous portrayals, he doubled down on the things people had already told him they didn't like. Maybe you don't think that makes his a bad director but it certainly makes him a bad (and egoistical) SOMETHING.

    • @The80sWolf_
      @The80sWolf_ Před 4 lety

      @@vadalia3860 It means he is among the few in hollywood with any personal integrity to speak of

  • @Goldmanvision
    @Goldmanvision Před 4 lety +336

    The Snyder Cut is just this comment section's jokes about what the Snyder Cut is.

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco Před 4 lety +21

      @El-ahrairah Barber: So how do you want it
      Customer: Gimme the Snyder Cut
      Barber: Say no more *cuts off random clumps with scissors, runs a razor across a couple of times, ruffles it up with his hand* And we're done

    • @bewilderbeastie8899
      @bewilderbeastie8899 Před 4 lety +6

      Maybe the real Snyder Cut is the enemies we made along the way

    • @The80sWolf_
      @The80sWolf_ Před 4 lety

      @El-ahrairah How can you "feel" that by peopel writing stuff online they shop at a certain place. Sounds really strange to me :0

    • @sweetpeabee4983
      @sweetpeabee4983 Před 4 lety +6

      @@Feasco Butcher: So how do you want it
      Customer: Gimme the Snyder Cut
      Butcher: Say no more *hacks random limbs off of the saddest, most diseased and bloated-looking cow you've ever seen, wraps it up in bloody wax paper, slides it across the counter* And we're done

    • @boheyo
      @boheyo Před 4 lety

      Which of the 15 different endings to Evangelion was like that again?

  • @NightRogue77
    @NightRogue77 Před 2 lety +48

    Holy crap man I thought I was gonna come in here and make a “aged like milk“, lol.
    Cost to finish: approximately $30 million. How was it done? HBO max, in an attempt to lure in subscribers. So I’m pretty sure this is the smartest guy on the Internet

  • @MarkSoupial
    @MarkSoupial Před 8 měsíci +13

    Turns out 2/3 of the Snyder-Cut runtime is just running the footage at half speed

  • @ltfringr
    @ltfringr Před 3 lety +21

    It's so fun to find out who didn't watch the video before commenting

  • @Cerise4697
    @Cerise4697 Před 3 lety +332

    Imagine not even watching the video and commenting "haha this aged like milk" to make you look like a whole buffoon fresh out of clown school

    • @dartvade1955
      @dartvade1955 Před 3 lety +4

      Nah they would be right. He said WB wouldn’t want to release as this and that it wouldn’t be better and that everyone would get fired. He was wrong on all 3 of those badly. Then his career reflects his utter failure of talking about something that he has no idea of. He took a hard L he also said it would be out in May 2020 among many other details all very wrong

    • @tricksterhuaun
      @tricksterhuaun Před 3 lety +72

      @@dartvade1955 I love how desperate you are to feel like you're right.

    • @lordofthebuckets2676
      @lordofthebuckets2676 Před 3 lety

      I just watch this video so that for 18 minutes and 29 seconds I can live in a world where it really doesn’t exist.

    • @bennygerow
      @bennygerow Před 3 lety

      And that's why I'm not doing that!

    • @alexmirceta7169
      @alexmirceta7169 Před 3 lety +1

      @@dartvade1955 14:52

  • @startmirca
    @startmirca Před 3 lety +35

    Recent comments is proof that people don't comment after watching the video.

    • @Titan23G
      @Titan23G Před 3 lety +4

      Recent comments are proof that people will read and repeat the same comments..

  • @MrSuperpiff4
    @MrSuperpiff4 Před 4 lety +163

    Have any of you guys actually watched the video? Stop saying he's wrong, he was correct then and now.

    • @BernardoOne
      @BernardoOne Před 4 lety +51

      @@DaRunningMan he literally said the Snyder Cut would release on HBO Max. Doesn't seem like you actually watched the video, he got it right on the money lol

    • @DaRunningMan
      @DaRunningMan Před 4 lety +4

      @@BernardoOne "he literally said the Snyder Cut would release on HBO Max"
      No, he literally did not. His actual prediction is that it won't ever be released and if it did it won't be in a finished form. Then at the end (which is what you are talking about) he reports on a rumor that Zack Synder fans were supporting since late last year about HBO MAX which is not his prediction.

    • @lzmunch
      @lzmunch Před 4 lety +24

      @@DaRunningMan get a life bro

    • @Chenso2099
      @Chenso2099 Před 4 lety +8

      Yeah, I saw I liked the video when it came out, and I wouldn’t have liked it if it was just nonsensical hate. What he’s saying is logical and makes total sense-the fact that he predicted it be on HBO Max is proof of that. There was a cut, except that it wasn’t finished or complete enough to be a film until now. I’m glad Snyder is getting a chance to finish his movie the way he envisioned it...or at least I hope that’s the case and that there isn’t executive or studio interference, though, supposedly he is getting complete creative control this time, so who knows?

    • @cashnelson2306
      @cashnelson2306 Před 4 lety +14

      the salt is real with this running man dude, holy shit. you can't talk about anyone's taste in music when you get this worked up over capeshit my man

  • @Number9Robotic
    @Number9Robotic Před 4 lety +124

    It probably feels super weird to need to point out really basic human decency, but I liked how even with all the shade you give to Snyder as a director, you acknowledged his need to grieve following his daughter's death with sincerity.

  • @ragingbombast
    @ragingbombast Před 4 lety +368

    I can't see Snyder paying for this. From his perspective, it's kind of silly to do so - As long as his cut is never released, he can forever be the hero of this story. The moment anything with his name on it drops, he's just another page in a scrapbook titled "DC Dumpster Fire #3."
    I find it more believable (If this does happen) that Warner gave him a paycheck fat enough for him to swallow his pride and scramble existing footage into something that can be released with his name on it.
    I guess that makes me a pessimist.

    • @MarkFilipAnthony
      @MarkFilipAnthony Před 4 lety +17

      If u new what kind of filmmaker Snyder is, he has too much of a movie pureist to simply take some money and leave a project and pretendingit never happned.
      In that way hes similar to somone like tarantino, if somone would cut or fuck up his movie he would fight big battle to keep it the way he want it.
      For people like this its never about the money but about the art of filmmaking themselves
      And dont missunderstand me, I am not comparing snyder and Tarantinos movies or skill, I am just describing the filmmaking type of person they are, as in dedication and love for the craft

    • @CabezasDePescado
      @CabezasDePescado Před 4 lety +1

      hero of the story? did you even know what the deal is? jeez, get some education

    • @UltimateKyuubiFox
      @UltimateKyuubiFox Před 4 lety +46

      Listen, I don’t think Snyder can tell a story from the broad side of a barn, but the man has never struck me as the kind of person to make political moves with regards to releasing or withholding his work. If he thinks he can get his movie out there, he’s gonna take the shot. He sees himself as a visionary and an artist and, while I don’t think he has the real narrative chops to back it up, I respect his integrity enough to know he’d never just sit on his hands and let his work go unseen just for clout. He gives a shit. Like, _really_ gives a shit. And I’ll back him up on that forever.

    • @zacharyheine4177
      @zacharyheine4177 Před 4 lety +3

      You either die a hero... Or live long enough to become the villain

    • @dracocrusher
      @dracocrusher Před 4 lety +29

      @@CabezasDePescado Just look at the fan reaction. A lot of DC fans have this crazy unrealistic expectation that the Snyder cut is going to be this amazing masterpiece of cinema and some of those people honestly probably would prefer it just for having his name on it, but all that good will would absolutely go away if the cut came out and was notably terrible.
      You can look at a released film, point out its problems, and show exactly how it's bad. But if it's not even a product you can see then you can project whatever expectations on it that you want and be just as right as anybody else because how would anyone ever even prove you wrong, right?

  • @tanasaky
    @tanasaky Před 4 lety +51

    After the 15:50 minute mark this video borders on prophetic! Have you considered changing your name to Danstradamus?

  • @emilysorano7768
    @emilysorano7768 Před 4 lety +87

    lmao the people who only read the video title which is a fun schrodinger's cat play anyway i don't think it will be very good especially since it's being divided up into chunks

    • @dasuberkaiser6
      @dasuberkaiser6 Před 4 lety +9

      Actually, I assumed the title was a reference to the naming scheme of the Rebuild of Evangelion movies.

    • @mburumorris3166
      @mburumorris3166 Před 3 lety

      @@adamlevine6700 He had finished the photography , he was not barred from any additional pick-ups . He even invited some fans to come watch him do the pick.ups

  • @Erny123
    @Erny123 Před 4 lety +205

    "The Snyder Cut did not take place" - Jean Baudrillard

    • @Reubel
      @Reubel Před 4 lety +25

      "Henceforth, it is the the Snyder Cut that precedes the theatrical version [...] it is the Snyder Cut that engenders the theatrical version and if we were to revive the workprint today, it would be the theatrical version whose images are slowly rotting across the internet."
      /Jean Baudrillard, Simulacra and Simulation and the Snyder Cut

  • @battleupsaber462
    @battleupsaber462 Před 4 lety +821

    Film Twitter these days mostly just consists of:
    - Snyder fans masquerading as DC fans petitioning for the Snyder Cuts
    - Star wars fans still upset about that one movie from two years ago
    - Marvel fans and Scorsese fans throwing shit at each other
    Edit: oh yeah, i guess some ppl on film twitter are upset at Marriage Story becos Adam Driver might steal that best actor Oscar from Joker.
    We really do live in a society.

  • @coRynnstar
    @coRynnstar Před 3 lety +24

    Fascinated by the sheer number of comments made by folks who saw the title and immediately started typing lmao

  • @PetProjects2011
    @PetProjects2011 Před 2 měsíci +8

    The "ego" thing you mentioned is likely why WB won't release 'Coyote Vs. Acme'.

  • @samanthaquinn3003
    @samanthaquinn3003 Před 3 lety +28

    Wow, you were pretty much right on every aspect of this. 30-40 million budget, released on HBO Max.

  • @GenocideOwl
    @GenocideOwl Před 4 lety +36

    Apparently all we needed for the Snyder Cut to turn into reality is a world wide pandemic.

    • @arjunjai1852
      @arjunjai1852 Před 3 lety +1

      Zack snyder created coronavirus !!! Lmao

  • @ghostofabulletproducciones5748

    They're going to release the cut, but this video is still relevant: when it was released, the fucking Snyder cut didn't exist, they're creating it right now

    • @mboatrightED300
      @mboatrightED300 Před 4 lety +8

      And being released to promote a streaming service, exactly as he predicted. Lot of people in this comments section only read the title and missed that the "not" is in parentheses.

  • @mwolsen96
    @mwolsen96 Před 3 lety +140

    This actually aged quite well.

    • @HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS
      @HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS Před 3 lety +39

      It did indeed. HBO using it as subscription bait was the only reason it was able to be completed. Without the pandemic, I doubt they would have thought it was a good idea.

  • @TrevorNWhite
    @TrevorNWhite Před 4 lety +197

    When a movie’s been out for two years and you still believe there’s a better version still coming, I fear battle’s already been lost.

    • @kahil2482
      @kahil2482 Před 4 lety +58

      It's like when sherlock fans thought there was a secret extra episode because the end of season 4 was soooo bad

    • @chrisossu2070
      @chrisossu2070 Před 4 lety +15

      Moffat really should just stick to writing individual episodes.

    • @DerezzedMan
      @DerezzedMan Před 4 lety +5

      Superman 2 directors cut was released 10 years later, your point?

    • @variousthings6470
      @variousthings6470 Před 4 lety +16

      @@DerezzedMan 26 years after release, not just 10. And the situation's not really comparable, as 2006 was around the time when physical media was at its most profitable, so bonus features and lavish multi-disc editions were still common.

    • @Humorless_Wokescold
      @Humorless_Wokescold Před 4 lety +3

      I mean, that's what we got with Blade Runner XD

  • @themorellonomicon2757
    @themorellonomicon2757 Před 4 lety +182

    This aged perfectly. I haven't seen the original, and this makes me want to watch both just to learn about internal studio politics and how decisions on these big budget monoliths work. Mostly to use as ammunition the next time I want to rant about 300 million dollar superhero movies and capitalism.
    I'm sure I'll hate them both for the same reasons and different reasons alike.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime Před 3 lety +2

      I'd be genuinely interested in seeing the work print versions, from the point of seeing what it looks like before all the finishing.

    • @hopebringer2348
      @hopebringer2348 Před 3 lety +4

      @Innocent Jogger Wait is this a joke I'm not getting?

    • @derektran9404
      @derektran9404 Před 3 lety +13

      @Innocent Jogger Godwin's law and a terrible joke that doesn't make sense, really hitting all the boxes.

    • @derektran9404
      @derektran9404 Před 3 lety +7

      @Innocent Jogger No matter what I do, quite an awful joke there.

    • @QuikVidGuy
      @QuikVidGuy Před 3 lety +12

      @@derektran9404 not even a joke, really. just showing up out of nowhere to say 1 bigoted thing at someone with no context other than... existing as a minority. there's no attempt at humor at all, not even humor i disagree with

  • @JawnGG
    @JawnGG Před 3 lety +35

    imagine watching a video before commenting

    • @mikeg4691
      @mikeg4691 Před 3 lety +2

      It's the even lazier reacting to headlines without reading the article.

  • @Rob-yj1gg
    @Rob-yj1gg Před 3 lety +25

    Man I don't know about you all, but I can't wait for an extra hour of cameos and set ups that will now go nowhere.

  • @artstsym
    @artstsym Před rokem +72

    I love that it took the entire world collapsing just to prove Dan almost entirely correct.

  • @croaklikeatoad4384
    @croaklikeatoad4384 Před 4 měsíci +8

    I’m so hungry and every time he said Snyder this whole video an HD image of pretzels was beamed directly into my brain ahhhh

  • @briandhackney
    @briandhackney Před 2 lety +21

    It's scary how right the price was. And AT&T was involved in the release overriding those Warner people recently fired.

  • @FizzleBurger
    @FizzleBurger Před 3 lety +88

    A follow-up video would be totally unnecessary because you got everything right, but I sooo want to see a follow up video about how you got everything right.

  • @HAHA4625
    @HAHA4625 Před rokem +11

    I watched the Snyder Cut and fell asleep about an hour into the movie, I woke up and there was another hour left to go.

  • @slightlyoffensivedadjokes

    I really love how Dan phrases why it's conceptually unideal for a studio to put money and effort into formally releasing cut content. if it's bad, well that's just wasted money and effort in bothering to rerelease it. if it's good, then they look dumb for cutting it in the first place and are publicly exposing themselves having made a big mistake, and their big mistake is responsible for the og movies failure.
    if they're right for cutting it, they were wrong for releasing the cut. if they're wrong for cutting it, they were wrong for cutting it. it's a lose lose.
    and fanboys just have no idea how actual filmmaking works, and imagine that the reality of making art is just THAT simple. very satisfying in how Dan proved that everyone is wrong about the Snyder cut, and it could only be released by only one condition, and that's exactly what happened. any fanboy who bothers commenting on this video that Dan was wrong for dare having called them wrong is just childish, further proving Dan right.

  • @ShirDeutch
    @ShirDeutch Před 3 lety +71

    This has aged very poorly - you totally failed to predict a global pandemic!

  • @MitchRogue
    @MitchRogue Před 3 lety +21

    So a follow-up to this video is imminent, right? Man, I'd love to see Dan's analysis of Snyders cut...

  • @spoogerification
    @spoogerification Před 4 lety +119

    Would be funny if the Snyder cut was just triumph of the will with superman edited in.

    • @tawdryhepburn4686
      @tawdryhepburn4686 Před 4 lety +27

      Robert Michaels So, a Frank Miller relaunch of Superman?

    • @troyschulz2318
      @troyschulz2318 Před 4 lety +25

      He's not even doing anything substantial, he's just hanging out in the backgrounds of shots looking bored.

    • @nicholasreinmann4886
      @nicholasreinmann4886 Před 4 lety +17

      Wait wasnt that already man of steel?

    • @kaharismith-brewer3800
      @kaharismith-brewer3800 Před 4 lety +1

      Nicholas Reinmann You guys know that comparing Man of Steel (or any Zack Snyder movie for that matter) to Nazi propaganda is insane right?

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick Před 4 lety +3

      People in the audience realized something was up when they noticed that the movie was really well directed.

  • @cocok.291
    @cocok.291 Před 4 lety +54

    Boy do I love watching in depth video essays on topics I don't care about at all

  • @Xondar11223344
    @Xondar11223344 Před 3 lety +21

    Holy shit, Dan called it. Though apparently the price tag for the Snyder Cut is a whopping $70 million rather than the $30-$40 million cited in the video.
    They'll be releasing it as a 4-part miniseries, and then as a single 4 hour (!!!!) film. I feel like that's cheating since there's no way they would have released a 4-hour movie in the theatre. Snyder gets to have his cake and eat it too by it going to HBO Max.

    • @Xondar11223344
      @Xondar11223344 Před 3 lety +6

      @CamelMan302 I understand they also shot/reshot a bunch of scene actually with the actors. They even had Jared Leto, the worst Joker, in for some shots.

    • @GalanDun
      @GalanDun Před 2 lety

      It was supposed to be two movies, that's why it's four hours.

  • @tsmct
    @tsmct Před 3 lety +23

    I came back to this video just to see all the people wanting to say "ha, they're releasing the snyders cut" and i'm not dissapointed in how many people flocked to do just that.
    It's kind of telling how much attention certain people will pay to try and understand someones poin

    • @tsmct
      @tsmct Před 3 lety +1

      @ It didn't contradict what he said at all, if you think it did i don't really think you were paying any attention to the video, at all.