Calafiori & Zirkzee: David Ornstein's transfer updates

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
  • Man United are working to finalise a deal for Bologna forward Joshua Zirkzee. His performances in Italy have earned him a spot in the Netherlands squad for the Euros. Arsenal have also targeted Riccardo Calafiori, could he fit in with the other defenders at the club?
    So, is Zirkzee an upgrade on United’s existing forward options and could Calafiori slot into Arteta's Arsenal?
    Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's David Ornstein and Carl Anka to discuss.
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:00:10 Joshua Zirkzee’s potential deal
    00:03:20 Jarrad Branthwaite & Mathijs De Ligt
    00:10:10 Riccardo Calafiori
    00:16:05 Strikers at Man Utd
    00:19:18 Ivan Toney & Dominic Calvert-Lewin
    00:22:30 Could Man Utd have a cashflow problem?
    00:25:26 How Joshua Zirkzee could fit in at Man Utd
    00:31:35 Are Man Utd playing the long game?
    00:34:02 Does this deal make sense for Arsenal?
    00:39:19 Outro
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Komentáře • 136

  • @TheLevano22
    @TheLevano22 Před 17 dny +28

    Braithwaite without even playing Euros is apparently 70M, while Calafiori who carried Italy can't be even 50M, do British fans ever listen to their own arguments?!
    PS Bologna got into UCL while Everton almost got relegated, again...

    • @phatbi971
      @phatbi971 Před 17 dny +3

      It’s just British basis

    • @brothatisfunny
      @brothatisfunny Před 16 dny +2

      I keep saying that, apparently Braithwaite is the best thing ever, except he wasn't called for the euros...
      He plays for SEAN DYCHE'S EVERTON!! He plays inside his box with 3 defensive midfielders infront of him, it's WAY EASIER to make defensive stats like that like goddamn McGuire did, and when you put him on a attacking team he struggle

    • @Hyde_Hill
      @Hyde_Hill Před 14 dny

      Home grown rules makes English players more expensive for prem clubs. And prem clubs in general can ask higher prices. It's still overblown but that is the main things.

    • @zumateen
      @zumateen Před 12 dny

      You're comparing Arsenal spending to that of Manchester United 😅😅
      In addition, there's a homegrown tax added on any english player.
      Also, Everton can afford to ask for a big price, while Bologna can't keep buyers away for too long.
      Finally, breaking into the first team for Italy isn't the high standard it used to be, no big italian defenders to compete against.

  • @Whadidobaby
    @Whadidobaby Před 17 dny +68

    Carl is a GOAT man, love how he talks about our beautiful sport

  • @alairdottin8101
    @alairdottin8101 Před 17 dny +24

    Carl Anka excellent and animated as usual!!!

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 Před 17 dny +59

    Could you not find a more flattering pic of Zikrzee?

    • @jonnohicks2176
      @jonnohicks2176 Před 17 dny +23

      Sorry that calafiori mogged him

    • @wickedfreestyle102
      @wickedfreestyle102 Před 17 dny +5

      could you not spell his name right

    • @jimbojimbo6873
      @jimbojimbo6873 Před 17 dny +3

      @@wickedfreestyle102 no I couln’t

    • @boredofthisnow
      @boredofthisnow Před 17 dny +2

      Getting a cut of his image rights are you? Or his Mum? 😂

    • @sugargay7168
      @sugargay7168 Před 17 dny +2

      Imagine caring what picture is used, but not having the respect to spell his name correctly. Do better jambo

  • @Sean-wu8qf
    @Sean-wu8qf Před 17 dny +69

    Could listen to Carl all day

  • @Dylan-ek5fy
    @Dylan-ek5fy Před 17 dny +19

    Great to see Carl on here. There is no better man at using analogies. Looking forward to the return of Talk of the Devils with Andy and the boys.

  • @grizzly_magnum9579
    @grizzly_magnum9579 Před 17 dny +17

    Zirkzee dribbling reminds me a bit of Grealish, except hes 6'4 and carrying it like hes 5'10

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 Před 17 dny +5

      Anthony looked good dribbling too before he joined United 😂

    • @andrewhezekiahdaniel
      @andrewhezekiahdaniel Před 17 dny +2

      ​@@legniak1Another dense observer obsessed with United 😁

    • @surpriserakins9067
      @surpriserakins9067 Před 16 dny

      ​@@legniak1serie A isn't the Eredivisie

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 Před 16 dny

      @@surpriserakins9067 I know. Anthony wasn’t even that good for Ajax but it was enough to blow $80M on him

  • @luthandohlatuka7113
    @luthandohlatuka7113 Před 17 dny +37

    Karl Anka is on and I watch. I am a simple man.

  • @columcunningham4458
    @columcunningham4458 Před 17 dny +2

    Absolutely Class. Wonderful group of gents. nO bS Smart and relatable. All the best

  • @L9pis1994
    @L9pis1994 Před 17 dny +13

    asking for a massive commission as a pat on the back for the release clause you yourself agreed to is kinda shady tbh. In the end the total fee comes up to the market value without it so what's the point apart from pocketing as much money as possible instead of the club getting it

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 Před 17 dny +2

      The release clause is below market value so with the commission, the buying club is still making a saving on the player as players usually go for 10M+ over their market value

    • @boredofthisnow
      @boredofthisnow Před 17 dny +2

      You got the point in your last sentence.

    • @rana1561
      @rana1561 Před 17 dny

      Absolutely, tbh, both the dealing clubs here are not the ones in position of advantage. The agent was just sharp enough to include a release clause that was lucrative for the current club when taking risk on a young striker who was looking for regular game time to level up his ability when he wasn't so obviously decent, and the release clause amount was also lucrative enough now for clubs trying to buy him because it saves them a bidding war which would've pushed the overall cost by 20 million. And they are avoiding that by agreeing to agent fees for giving the purchasing club the preference through the agent. In the end you gotta applaud the agent for hitting the bullseye with the risk of a release Clause, or to the agents ability to convince the previous club to feel that they are investing in a potential dudd.

  • @Friedel69
    @Friedel69 Před 16 dny +1

    Bologna and Stuttgart both raided like a medieval camp without fortifications. Sad.

  • @brothatisfunny
    @brothatisfunny Před 16 dny +1

    A thing i don't see anyone talking about Braithwaite is how he plays for a super defensive team, what will happen when he plays for a more atacking and exposed one? Same happened to McGuire

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 Před 17 dny +6

    Ruuuuuud is back at the club. He'll yeach the front lot how to score.

  • @groovywithad3942
    @groovywithad3942 Před 14 dny

    I see Carl Anka and I’m here guys🙏🏾

  • @ronakjoshi5198
    @ronakjoshi5198 Před 17 dny +1

    Carl Anka by name top bloke by nature

  • @mazidmufc
    @mazidmufc Před 17 dny +1

    David Ornstein- the boss of English transfer market❤️❤️

  • @manunited4life634
    @manunited4life634 Před 16 dny

    ✅Ugarte
    ✅Zirkzee
    ✅De ligt
    ✅Yoro
    ✅Neves
    ✅Doue
    ✅Ndieye
    United gone massive in transfer window I wish we hear here we go soonest by Fabrizio Romano on Zirkzee.

  • @d.b.cooper1
    @d.b.cooper1 Před 16 dny

    Man like Carl Anka! Top lad!

  • @bhismarqafful5678
    @bhismarqafful5678 Před 17 dny +3

    ORNESTEIN 😍😍😍😍😍

  • @ndg9746
    @ndg9746 Před 17 dny

    A midfield of Schouten, Mikel Merino and Gomes at Lille would be elite

  • @mohammedZxt
    @mohammedZxt Před 17 dny +1

    Ten Haag should bring in great players and get rid of the likes of Anthony/Martial/Ericksen.

  • @yemiadio8073
    @yemiadio8073 Před 17 dny +2

    United fans have enjoyed laughing at Arsenal fans with Gabi Jesus. Have fun with Zirkzee 🙃

  • @Michaelkaydee
    @Michaelkaydee Před 17 dny +1

    Everton can do one... those benchmarks were overpriced obvoiusly... United will give a Take it or leave it offer and move on.

  • @sunievibes6940
    @sunievibes6940 Před 17 dny +1

    ❤❤❤❤GGMU

  • @notfunny007
    @notfunny007 Před 17 dny +2

    Zirkzee has to improve his finishing to succeed

    • @Coopdegras
      @Coopdegras Před 17 dny +1

      Not a United fan but I'd think Ruud coming in as coach could help him with that

    • @notfunny007
      @notfunny007 Před 17 dny

      @@Coopdegras yup

  • @bbqR0ADK1LL
    @bbqR0ADK1LL Před 17 dny

    Jokes on you , Carl. I'm 5'9" & I suck at dribbling😂

  • @michaelmun3521
    @michaelmun3521 Před 15 dny

    Our Martial replacement is here. Likes low driven shots too just like Tony.

  • @Brazil520
    @Brazil520 Před 17 dny +11

    Zirzkee is Berbatov without the goalscoring pedigree.

    • @legniak1
      @legniak1 Před 17 dny

      That’s a bold comparison. Haven’t seen a lot of Zirkzee but if he’s half as good as Berba he will be a hell of a signing

    • @samserwadda253
      @samserwadda253 Před 17 dny +1

      ​@@legniak1 he is no where near the technical ability of berbatov. No where near. He is probably a better athlete but is no where near the technical ability of berba.

    • @Brazil520
      @Brazil520 Před 17 dny +2

      @@samserwadda253 He’s actually very similar in play style to Berbatov. Zirzkee is a very technical player.
      People say Havertz is but that’s just racial bias.

    • @Brazil520
      @Brazil520 Před 17 dny

      @@legniak1 In play style he is, languid style, he won’t press lol. Amazing first touch and link play.

    • @archercarne
      @archercarne Před 17 dny

      @@samserwadda253 there isn't lot of players in history with the technical ability of Berbatov. I haven't seen anything like him.

  • @brapblap0429
    @brapblap0429 Před 15 dny

    "when lacazette was at lyon"
    -is at lyon

  • @andorrasrevenge1683
    @andorrasrevenge1683 Před 17 dny

    Carl is the best

  • @alairdottin8101
    @alairdottin8101 Před 17 dny

    Calvert Lewin is quite injury prone at the moment.

  • @katibothman5531
    @katibothman5531 Před 17 dny

    Zirkzee plays with a much wonderful elegance that is closer to someone like Jack Grealish....... Which Jack Grealish are you talking about? Aston Villa Grealish or Man City Grealish that could not make it to the Euros?

    • @garv04
      @garv04 Před 17 dny

      Villa grealish was brutal

  • @saltmerchant749
    @saltmerchant749 Před 16 dny

    "Not only the big clubs"
    Spends the entire show talking about United and Arsenal.

  • @really8930
    @really8930 Před 17 dny +12

    Happy for Everton not to blink, and keep Branthwaite. A bird in the hand (£50m) is worth two in the bush (£70m +). Everton should wise up. The days of Maguire type purchases are over.

    • @MartinGreen932
      @MartinGreen932 Před 17 dny +1

      He's not Maguire. He's faster than him, stronger than him, doesn't make ricks and will improve into one of the very best in the world (he's already just about as good as anything in the prem) and a much better defender than Stones was at the same age. Any everton fan who watches most of the games will tell you about this kid. We would be happy to get 55-60 for Onana, 30mill+ Pickford, 20mill+ DCL but you will not find one that thinks we should get a penny less than 70mill for Branthwaite.

    • @MartinGreen932
      @MartinGreen932 Před 17 dny

      Pay the money and get an elite player that can Captain your club for years or get someone not as good and is older for 45mill. Then next summer Man City or Real will snap this kid up.

    • @really8930
      @really8930 Před 17 dny +7

      @@MartinGreen932 No problem. City or Madrid, can “snap him up” for whatever price they want next year. United are not for turning, this time. New days are here. About time too.

    • @BigPurp9
      @BigPurp9 Před 17 dny +4

      Literally, I’ve been really impressed by him this year but not for that kind of money. If the clubs can’t agree we should move on.

    • @really8930
      @really8930 Před 17 dny +4

      @@MartinGreen932 Fair enough. Keep him. United will move on.

  • @wayneverhoff2790
    @wayneverhoff2790 Před 17 dny

    Braitwaithe is cap. Introducing Yoro

  • @TiganaaJ
    @TiganaaJ Před 17 dny

    Karl anka looks like an Utd fan...is smelling to the deal of zirkzee 😂😂

    • @chrisj5816
      @chrisj5816 Před 17 dny

      or maybe he’s just a fruit loop because he was smiling for the Arsenal news too

    • @DisforDelight
      @DisforDelight Před 17 dny +1

      He is a United fan.

    • @naseibonsu8120
      @naseibonsu8120 Před 17 dny

      He's a United fam!

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 Před 17 dny

    Dominic Calvert Lewin is always injured. Worse injury record than Luke Shaw!!

  • @Pwnziillaaaa
    @Pwnziillaaaa Před 17 dny

    CALIFIORI CALIFIORI
    He drinks moretti
    He eats spaghetti
    And He fucking hates Chelsea
    🔴⚪️

    • @garv04
      @garv04 Před 17 dny

      Is he joining us ??

  • @manunited4life634
    @manunited4life634 Před 16 dny

    Get Ugarte and let sign Amrabat permanently he is stronger than Mctommiey

  • @Gloriousibglorious
    @Gloriousibglorious Před 12 dny

    Why is he so out of breathe 😂

  • @gamerbeans7445
    @gamerbeans7445 Před 17 dny

    Varanes contract already expired. He's gone.

  • @josephherrick2965
    @josephherrick2965 Před 17 dny +1

    Be nice if we could have a bit less endless man utd speculation

  • @r1ckyr0zay9
    @r1ckyr0zay9 Před 17 dny

    Zirkzee mewing

  • @FlashMeterRed
    @FlashMeterRed Před 17 dny

    Well man utd want to be able to win ugly...............

  • @barneybernado1998
    @barneybernado1998 Před 17 dny

    Calvert lewin is pony not on his life would have sir Alex singed that man joker

  • @Mujeeb179
    @Mujeeb179 Před 17 dny +1

    Zirkzee is depay 2.0 😅

  • @cj2103m
    @cj2103m Před 17 dny +2

    Zirkzee is going to be an absolute flop tbh. Never been a footballer at that sort of level.

    • @Rustylad12
      @Rustylad12 Před 17 dny +14

      Hold the phones everyone. CZcams armchair expert in his infinite scouting wisdom thinks he is going to be a flop

    • @cj2103m
      @cj2103m Před 17 dny

      @@Rustylad12 he’s been absolutely mediocre everywhere he’s played, with the small exception of this past season, which was almost certainly down to the fact that Thiago Motta is an unbelievable coach. He made Lewis Ferguson of Aberdeen into a €50m player. Just wait. Zirkzee is another Martial in the making.

    • @SangbaranDasgupta
      @SangbaranDasgupta Před 17 dny

      Hojlund and Zirkzee will rampage in the Europa League, wait and watch.

    • @InesVandehoof
      @InesVandehoof Před 17 dny

      ​@cj2103m lmao i can bet that the only thing you know about the player are the highlight videos you watched on CZcams 🤣🤣

    • @Rustylad12
      @Rustylad12 Před 17 dny +1

      @@cj2103m He's a 38m backup striker who is a different profile to Hojlund. Sure he's had to find his way but he's only 23 heading in to his prime. Nothing about his injury record suggests he's a Martial so I don't know what you're on about.

  • @hussey1990
    @hussey1990 Před 17 dny

    75M for overrated English player. Everton can do one ✌🏽

  • @legniak1
    @legniak1 Před 17 dny

    Man Utd should go for Ramsdale

    • @garv04
      @garv04 Před 17 dny +1

      Facts for 40 mills he's bargain

  • @SLM3573
    @SLM3573 Před 17 dny +4

    dude doesnt score, they are adding him to a front line of Rashford who once again cant score, and Hojlund who maybe can score but no one passes to him. They need someone who is going to get 20 plus goals next season and this guy isnt it.
    De Ligt has been replaced by Eric Dier he is as slow as a week in jail and they already have a slow centre back in Slabby Maguire. Utd are once again going to get their pants pulled swiftly down on buys and sales as there isnt one player Utd are wanting to sell who any club will match the wages

    • @DisforDelight
      @DisforDelight Před 17 dny

      Strikers of his ilk tend to mature into goalscorers. I'd wait and see with this one.

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 Před 17 dny +1

      De ligt isn’t slow for a cb. He’s young, strong and his height will compliment Licha well added to the fact they played at Ajax. He was Ajax captain at 19 so he’s another leader to a dressing room filled with moaning children like Rashford

    • @JamailvanWestering
      @JamailvanWestering Před 17 dny +1

      They don’t need to have a striker that can get more than 20.
      What they need is a system and Zirkzee fits that role perfectly for playing the style of Ajax, that allows more switching between the forward.

    • @uwesmek
      @uwesmek Před 17 dny +1

      😂 wtf are you on.

    • @garv04
      @garv04 Před 17 dny

      ​@@DisforDelightnope

  • @shango7942
    @shango7942 Před 17 dny

    Put Rasmus on the Right Wing.

  • @djliksu6341
    @djliksu6341 Před 17 dny +2

    don't believe word of it until Orstein says it. Credit to your background work. Credit to your discretions. in Or we trust. You have become tier 0.99 journalist

    • @djliksu6341
      @djliksu6341 Před 17 dny +1

      Fair play to your graft and integrity

  • @fatboywins
    @fatboywins Před 17 dny +1

    Why isnt anyone asking why bayern would sell de light?

    • @ghost5631
      @ghost5631 Před 17 dny +2

      Because they have about 6 cbs on the books with them looking to also buy Jonathan Tah from Leverkusen. They need to offload someone. There’s not much market for Upamecano and Kim so De Ligt is the only sellable one out of them all. Eric Dier just joined so he isn’t on the market

    • @uwesmek
      @uwesmek Před 17 dny +2

      They are buying Tah from Leverkusen and he wants a guaranteed spot in the 11.

    • @fatboywins
      @fatboywins Před 17 dny

      @@uwesmek them this brings about another question gentleman, if they have 6 cbs, why would they be willing to sell de light specifically? Aka he isn't good enough...?

    • @fatboywins
      @fatboywins Před 17 dny

      @@uwesmek dyer isn't that great imo, tah has had a good season, but fat from proven over years.

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Před 17 dny

      Plenty of alternatives and he has an injury record. United will have to manage hos minutes