Triumph Tiger 900 vs 1200! - What one is best?
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- I was not expecting picking my favourite between the Triumph Tiger 900 and the Tiger 1200 to be so easy, however it may not be so easy for all. Thanks to Triumph UK for the lending me this bike over xmas and new year, my FULL review is coming soon!
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Good to hear your views on this. I've had a Tiger 1200 for 3 years now, and loved it - fast, comfortable and agile. The only thing that bothers me is the size and weight of the 1200. 270kg with fuel etc is heavy, and carried high up, as it is, I don't always feel confident even just coming to a stop...and 3 years of riding hasn't eased that.
So, I test-rode a 900 GTPro last week, and loved it. Definitely a power differential between the two bikes - the 1200 is a very powerful bike - but in real world terms, the 900 is just as fast, and the 40kg weight loss is also noticeable and welcome!
So my decision is as per yours, and in my case I'll be chopping in the 1200 for a shiny new 900.
Thanks again for the video
Mate I might misunderstood you. Are you saying you going to sell your triumph 1200 in order to buy triumph 900?
@@paoloc3318 hi, yes, I traded in my Tiger 1200 (the 2018 version) for the 900. I've had the 900 for just over a year now, and have done 5000 miles, including a tour of the west coast of Scotland, as well as a trip to the French Alps earlier this year. The 1200 would have been better on some of the long motorway sections, but for everything else, the 900 has been great
@@chalkphil so as a commuter and short bike trips you claim 900 engine better over 1200 ???
@@paoloc3318 Well, that 1200 engine was pretty spectacular, as was the bike as a whole, but I, personally, found the 2018 1200 too heavy (top heavy), and so yes, I find the 900 better across the whole range of riding
Sorry to hear about the nation wide lockdown mate. Little bit more fortunate here in Oz, but hey, life's like that. Looking forward to watching your channel for 2021 and hopefuly beyond. Good stuff mate. stay safe in Pommyland.
so happy you posted this review. I currently have a 1200 and while i love it at 5'8" it is a little tall for me. The 900 is 30cm lower which will make a big difference for me and coupled with the lighter weight should make it a better all round ownership experience. I will look at the GT low but i suspect I will end up with the GT pro. Great that you didnt waffle and took a stand on your preferred bike.
Fabulous review and points of comparison. I agree the lighter 900 is easier to control (certainly easier to pick up!) and more fun to ride. Thank you Spicy!
Just last night I was looking at these 2 dunno if I would buy 1 or something different but the timing of this video is perfect.
And a great video as always.
And I get why you would go for the 900 makes sense.
I love my GT Pro. Very light and agile and the quick shifter is so smooth. The seat is good for a couple of hours. It really is a hoot! Tried out a R1250GS a few months ago. I found the gear box rubbish in comparison but the power and overall comfort more than made up for that. I do miss the whistle of a triple though.
Great video. I have a gt pro, 1st thing is dump standard tyres, after 2000 miles they feel like you are riding on marbles. I have mets 01s at present, but will be changing them to road 6s ASAP. Was wrong informed at time of swap over that the 6s would not fit. Happy riding.
Modern version of my bike :). If I could afford it I would. When I test rode this I loved it. It's a tad bit lighter then mine too I think.
They have done wonders with the weight of the 900 it feels so light, had the 800 and the 1200, got the 900 as a loan bike and was blown away, the 1200 is lovely but every time you stop you have the weight to deal with, although once on the 1200 again it was like getting an old friend back, so lazy and a touch smoother, the previous question about carrying capacity is relevant, if the payload of the 900 is lower it may be a deciding factor
Great review..... Loved it, very down to earth, I've just done my first trip abroad on my rocket, so now looking for a tourer and was thinking Tiger 1200, Test ride is booked next week, but after this I'm now thinking 900 will be ok but with a better speck for less money.... Keep up the good work.
Try both, no reason not too 🙂👍
I bought a 900 GT Pro and got a great deal on it. It's my first bike as I only passed last month. It's got plenty of poke for me and I commute into London on it in all weathers 50 miles each way including filtering. I'm looking forward to taking it on some road trips.
Thank you sir 🙏
I rode them both and I think it depends on what your wanting to do. If I was only going to ride solo I would have bought the 900. However, my wife, who is 5’9”, rides with me about 90% of the time and the 1200 was hands down better for long trips. I bought the 1200 Desert SE. it is tall and heavy but the weight goes completely away once you start moving. Follow Spicy’s advise and ride them both before deciding. Test ride with your pillion if they will let you. 🏍💨💨💨💨💨 Great review!
Luvin the Triumphs these days for me would be a toss up between the 765 rs or the 12 or 900 completely different I know and if I could afford them both I would have them both ,but alas I can afford neither so I will just keep the two I have ( for now ) there are just too many to choose from right now . nice one cheers : )
Bought the tiger 1200 much more comfortable on the spine as bars wider. I love it
Nice videos, been watching you 1200 and 900 vids. I’m interested in the Desert Edition 1200 and the Rally Pro 900. Leaning towards the 900 but can’t shake the bigger big calling. Only a back to back test ride will tip the balance. I’ll be mostly riding it for longer day rides or some weekend touring (or longer) and camping trips. I have a KLX 250 for hopping around town and trail rides. It’s all part of the consideration.
i think a lot depends on how tall you are. im a kiwi and one of my best rides ever was around Tasmania on a Tiger XCX 800 low. Brilliant bike but when i bought one for myself i couldnt resist the extra engine size and went for the 1200. I love it but at 5'8" im on my tippy toes when walking it unless i have massive soles on my boots. 900 GT pro is 810mm seat height at lowest. My 1200 is 840mm at lowest. Also at 65 im thinking the lighter weight might be good. You know i think back when i was 18 and i couldnt imagine anything having a bigger motor than my 650 Bonneville. So def gonna order a 900.
I went with the 1200 Desert Edition because I'm gonna be doing some big mile munching, with "dirt" riding being gravel/dirt roads and mellow woods to camp sites. I gotta believe the 1200 is noticeably better on the road at 80 mph than the 900.
The 2 bikes im considering. Thanks for that. Great help. Have you riden bmw 850gsa?
Totally agree with you 👍I’ve got the 900 and the bike gets better the more you ride it! If I needed a bigger bike it’s got to be the GS 👍the only downside to this bike is that the front tyre tramlines ( I’ve had a couple of moments🙏) I will upgrade the tyres ASAP , I hope you don’t have this problem , but there is a chance because you have it long term . Enjoy 👍
Are you on the 19" wheel with the 100/90/19. When a 110/80/19 seems a lot better (and is radial) and used on almost every other motorcycle. Even the 1200 had a 110/80/19.
@@chrishart8548 yes It’s the 100/90/19 , thanks for your advice 👍I’ll will try the wider tyre . It only happens around 20/30 mph but it’s bloody scary when it does. It like you’ve hit ice with the front tyre . Not many reviews have picked this problem up ! I think Tony from the man cave did 👍
Cheers
Paul
The stock Metzlers have a bit of a sketchy reputation on this bike. I don’t find them very confidence inspiring in the wet or muddy conditions.
@@ianafloat9250 thanks for your reply Ian .
It’s reassuring to know that other riders have found problems with these Tyres .
👍 I now need to find a good replacement?
Cheers
Paul
I own both models a 2018 1200 XCX , and a 2020 GT . I prefer the 1200 . Weight is not a issue for me , and I'm 5' 1" @ 148 pounds . The 1200 is nice for no chain service in nasty weather , and its OEM seat is far better than the 900 GT heated comfort seat I paid to much for how uncomfortable it is . Both bikes pass with ease in top gear , but the 1200 two up is just a better choice . Ive been off road on both also . The 1200 XCX is great as Off road pro mode turns all aids off quickly . While the GT you have to take extra steps to turn it all off . I picked up both bikes in 2020 new from my dealer . The 900 in June , and 1200 was a left over new in the crate with 5,100 off . It was cheaper than the 900 GT with the additions of seat / lower crash bars / center stand . My wife rides the 900 , but she eyes the 1200 .
The TSAS on the 1200 is Awesome ! on the fly suspension adjustments makes all conditions a breeze !
Cool. I'm bored at work so needed something to watch! 👍🏼
I've ridden both the 1200 and the 900 but the off road versions wich one would u have, road or off road???
I think Tiger 900 is an allrounder bike between these two bikes, much more manageable. Whereas, Tiger 1200 is more inclined towards long distance highway riding. Thanks for the video.
Can someone pls advice regarding change of windshields... on 900 gt pro ...
And does anyone have speed twin ... in case you people tried any good windshield pls send a link / just mention what they used
I have a Gt Pro and have to say it’s incredible- some people mention vibes from it - I’ve noticed minimal vibrations but nothing compared to my previous s1000r which was awful ! Love the Tiger, only thing I don’t like are the tyres which will replace when out of lockdown or at first years service... buy one (if you can get hold of one ) 😂
What does it feel like around 80mph?
@@booshallmighty A few vibes through bars but minimal - no more than my old Speed Triple, I put on heavy bar ends which helped. Best to test ride one I guess. Best bike I’ve had in truth … most bikes vibe a bit (sons Mt10 does a bit !)
@@lordpunter6188 I'm due to ride one in few days. I'm almost certain I won't have any issues. I'm coming bike to riding after riding dirt bikes in my youth. I have never experienced a bike without vibration 😂 I was in the showroom yesterday getting my cb 125r serviced. The Tiger looks fantastic. I Immediately dismissed the 1200 as it just felt too heavy. The ride position felt perfect on the Tiger so looking forward to riding that.
@@booshallmighty yep you’ll love it, so comfortable- I can ride for 4/5 hours and get off not feeling wasted. Ok it’s not fast but it’s not that type of bike, I’ve got the Gt pro as I don’t venture off road, heated grips, seat and a great quickshifter - 200 plus miles to a tank. What’s not to like ! Let me know what you think of it !
Great, sounds perfect can't wait to try it out 👍
Horses for Courses. I bought the Tiger 1200 Desert Edition in April and simply love it. I do location photography and the Tiger 1200 can whisk me from Essex up to the Lake District or West coast of Scotland effortlessly whilst loaded with luggage and camera gear. It is a good as any big tourer to eat the motorway and when I'm there, gravel tracks, wet grassy car parks and forest fire-break tracks are no problem whatsoever. Upgrading from my old BMW GS 1200, I test rode the Tiger 900, KTM 790 and 1290 Adventure and BMW 850 GS and 1250 GS... but the Tiger 1200 grabbed me. Love the maintenance free shaft-drive that I'd gotten used to on the BMW but loved the overall sportbike whippy feel of the Tiger over my old GS slug. The Tiger's engine maps and out of this world adjustable on-the-fly suspension can give you a lithe wildcat Tiger or big comfy pussycat with the same bike at the touch of a button! The brakes are simply awesome, front stoppers especially and the bike is super comfortable all-day long riding. Big triple super smooth engine is responsive and with my Akrapovic exhaust, tuneful. The blipper/quick-shifter is ace and the weight melts away as soon as you are rolling and on the move the bike is astonishingly agile. I've had bikes since 1976, too many to list, but this 2020 Tiger 1200 has blown me away, we were made for each other. It suits me and what I want it to do. You would probably hate it.
I'm maybe buying the same (2020 DESERT EDITION) next week. I like the looks of the Desert Edition better than the Alpine White. Am I correct in assuming that the color scheme and the modes are the only fundamental differences, and that the DE is as good or nearly as good touring as the Alpine? Or in any event, very good at it? Thanks in advance.
@@scottstewart5784 The Desert Edition has spoked wheels, the Alpine, alloy wheels The Desert is basically the XCx with paint scheme and extras, the Alpine is XRx with extras. The 'C' denoting more offroad (Cross) and the R more (Road). I think the only real difference that will affect the tarmac touring is your tyre choice. I chose to fit 50/50% Pirelli Scorpion STR rally tyres on my Desert because I go mild off-road but they are still great on the motorway. I fitted Triumph fog lights and triumph billet footpegs... The Alpine and the Desert look so good IMO because they are the only Tiger 1200s with a black frame. I got an EMail this week from Triumph stating that the Hill-Hold feature will be added free to my bike on its next service.
I got free panniers with my bike and when you add the extras over and the above the XCx (Arrow exhaust and shift-assist) it is well worth it. 8 Months and 4.500 miles in, no issues and I am really loving this bike. It has been a real tonic to ride this crappy year. I'm an old-school biker and also ride a 1975 Norton Commando - So the heated grips, electronic suspension, ABS, traction control, cornering ABS, linked brakes, blipper/quick-shifter, LED headlights, incredible front brakes, USB charger, electrical adjustable screen etc. are like space-age heaven. I'm love.love loving it!! This morning the sun was up and I rode 40 mile to get a pint milk we didn't really need.
@@dillcarver7731 Thanks so much for the review. I'm sold.
@@scottstewart5784 how much did they pay for you ? Can I buy you from them ?
@@paoloc3318 You resurrected a year old plus thread to make THAT joke, about that figure of speech? Well, I'll tell you, I'm loving my 2020 Tiger 1200 Desert Edition. I just moved to the mountains, I'm talking 3 mile stretches, many of them, at 9% grade and very twisty. My house is 3 miles up a private, twisty, up and down, crowned, dirt/graveI road, so the off-road biased Tiger 1200 was the right choice. I equate the 1200 triple to the engine in my truck - the 5.7 Hemi. They both have the oomph to get me and my gear up and down those hills, safely and quickly, where a V6 or a 900 might not perform as well, especially under load. I might go to a more off-roady tire than it came with though.
It would be more useful to compare with the new 1200 coming out later this year. As you are not comparing the same generation of bike development.
Just a tip from a IAM advanced rider & instructor, try riding without your fingers on the levers. On finger on brake and four on clutch. You don't have fun
control of the bike and you are not riding off road. Sorry had say it.
in your opinion can the 900 cruise all day on the big highways. Is the bike comfortable at 70 miles an hour? I was about to put a down payment on the 1200 but now I’m torn between the 900 I’m coming from 900 America and now I’m thinking the 900 Tigers Way to go.
Great video Sir! I have the 2020 Tiger 1200xcx here in the USA. We have plenty of room for the bigger bikes. I see your point in the 900 being a better fit for you there. The 1200 can be a handful in tighter areas here too. Great video SIR!! It's all about fit and NOT displacement!
Peace! 🙌👏🤙👌🖖✌👍👋🙂
once fully loaded with luggage and a pillion, i feel it wouldn't have the power to even overtake comfortably than the 1200?
Wish I could afford a second bike. One of these would be perfect for winter.
Today I froze my fat arse off on my tiny z650 😂
I dont think its totally fair to compare the 900GT pro to the 1200 alpine. There are features on the 900's which they removed from the 1200's at roughly the same time the 900's came out. This made the 900's seem better value.
If you get a 1200 XRT you get exactly the same features and electronics as the 900 GT pro.
Given that used values for both are currently the same and finance offers on both new are also pretty similar its only going to come down to personal preference.
You also missed the service cost and intervals. The 900 is a 6,000mile interval bike, the 1200 is 10,000miles. That makes a HUGE difference in running costs, especially on a touring bike, and don't forget the advantage of the shaft drive on the 1200 too, even less to worry about.
Ah, I've been waiting for this vid. Having been to Destination Triumph in Solent and tried their 900 GT Pro it threw a spanner in the works. I'm now torn between this, the Tiger 800 and the Africa Twin.
Have you tried the Africa Twin Spicy?
Sadly not had access to the Honda no, something I aim to do this year.
I owned an Africa Twin DCT for 3 months. It was too tall and heavy for me at 5’7. It does have a great thumping engine though. My riding is road focused so I got tired of that 21inch tyre up front. I tried out a Tiger 800 XR which was more comfortable for me. I must say my GT Pro is by far the nicest road bike. Get out and test ride them all and form your own opinion 👍
@@HJM1974 I will. Thanks for the info on the Africa twin.
Love my 1200 but now you got me thinking of taking a 900 for a test ride. Is the over all carrying weight the same.
Cheers from Oz
Chain maintenance, Issue or not ?
505 lb for 900 rally pro vs 548 lb for 1200 rally pro.
93.9 hp for 900 rally and 147 hp for the 1200.
So about 43 hp difference for 43lb heavier 1200
You ride hand with your hand on the brake? I had a habit where I'd rest my hand on the break but when when I went in for my test he got me out of the habit because a slight unintentional squeeze of the break and the bike would spit me off. Are your break lights on the whole time?
Yes that is because you were inexperienced, I am not Covered in this video. czcams.com/video/8F-BUS-NHs8/video.html
@@spicy110 OK I watched that and this is what I was doing pre training. I started riding bikes when I was 11. Dirt biking in woods ect. I had various bikes in my teens, I did the CBT when it first became law. I always rkde with my hand on the brake. Like I said I was told I had to stop doing this. Good advice on the slow move. I dropped a cb650 on a lesson. We just pulled in for recap and I turned the bike around but I touched the front break and it just wenr down. Lesson learned there. The bike was OK but my pride needed mouth to mouth. Good video 👍
Hi spice just wondering if you can help I'm having electric problems to do with bad connection with a connection blocks under my tank every time I turn the handle bars the lights go off in one spot would you have any ideas and great video's keep up the hard work up
I would look at the wiring around the headstock very often wires can get worn though.
Thank you for getting back to me and I will definitely have a look tomorrow morning at that it's almost like they wiring has not got enough cable and pulling on the connector block and I let you know how I get on with it thank you again and happy new year to you both
That can be a routing issue, has the wiring been played with? Still worth looking at what I said as if it is too tight that can curse the chaffing on the cables.
Yer I had to have a new lom put in as the old wiring was shot but as I'm not 100% with wiring I take it to a garage to have it done it was ok when I got it back for a week or so
@@lukey4626 Are your wiring issues on a Tiger 900?
For most people the 900 will IMO probably suit them better. I did the 800 vs 1200 test a few years ago and found then that for solo riding the difference in real world performance when ridden solo wasn't that great. Where the 1200 would win is for someone (who's quite tall and reasonably strong) that wants to do mostly 2 up touring as the comfort especially for the pillion and shaft drive coupled with the extra power when fully loaded would make more sense for mile munching but for most circumstances solo riders the 900 would be more than enough and less intimidating. My wife found the 800 too cramped and uncomfortable and I found the 1200 too big and top heavy so in the end I didn't buy either so got a GS instead. The other thing of course is that the 1200 is now basically an old design dating back about 7 years now? Where as the 900 is brand new. The resale value of the 900 will probably be better than the 1200 too as it'll have a wider appeal. Out of the 2 I'd have the 900
I need a 125cc. Any thoughts on a catC sinnis Apache for my 1st bike?
Wow a catC sinnis Apache. They must pay you money to take one off their hands.
@@chrishart8548 £800 aswell, looks like its a no go
Decisions, decisions! I'm 5'8". The 1200 is heavy. Plus points - Shaft drive, bigger electronic screen and better weather protection, beefy engine and I love the looks of this. I'm only a 60 kg age 61, so man handling this out of the garage could be a problem although there is the low suspension model that could make life a lot easier. On the other hand, there's this 900. Lighter, easier to ride but chain and small screen but I could get my feet down on this and feel more confident.
5' 8" and 60kg, it's my body twin 😅
Don't buy the 1200 at 5'8" unless you can completely flat foot on the low model. If you cannot flat foot it you will regret the 1200.
@@terenceokeeffesmotorcyclestuff just lower it as far as it'll go and get some of those platform shoes that Tom Cruise and Harry Hill wear 😅 job's a good 'un 😅
@@daubentonsbat4257 - yes, I am 6ft but a bit short in the leg, I ended up lowering it another 20mm. I have ridden this about 50kg over max load and it did shrug it off. My thigh muscles are twice the size now though!
Lovely comparative video ...
Wind shield protection ... can we add a bigger say ... a 1200 type size windscreen on the 900 ...
Will it cause severe wobbling...
I've a speed twin but been doing a lot of touring..was looking for a bike with more wind/ rain protection...
I did try some windshields on speed twin ..damn disturbed the aerodynamics very badly ..wobbling at 140km/jr
👍 🏍
what about the handle bar vibrations ... when you speed / try to cruise at 160-170 km/hr in a 900 .. would be under powered ...
Mate who rides 160 km/h ?? Usually when you ride you stay at the speed 70-80 till 120 km/h the most .noone rides 160km/h mate.
I bet ol mate test rider wears out front brake pads and clutch thrust bearings prematurely because of continuous slight pressure on the levers.
You understand levers go in and not down right?
@@spicy110 It was a friendly respectful comment ol son stating what was obvious.
Also 900 is chain and 1200 shaft drive
Thanks indeed I didn't mention this. However I don't think is really play that large a factor over all. I just imagine trying to find shaft parts in the middle of no where compared to finding a chain. Yes the shaft is not likely to go wrong but if it does it's probably game over for the trip.
I have a 800 xrt and i love it..all that electronic stuff is on. and hp/kilo on the backwheel is better on the 800 becuse it has chain and lower weight. every time a oil the chain i think o the 1200..but naaaa..it not worth it..
I've only ever had a chain. I only use gear oil. Tried some sticky pink stuff once . Never again.
@@chrishart8548 yes me to.. don't remember but i think it was 30 % loss on shaftdrive and 6 % in chain.not hundred of the numbers..but it is a big diffrens.
Love my 800xc and l have no problem to lube my chain once in a wile... Yours has more gadget then mine thoe. 😊Lovley bikes
ADOBERA!!!!!!!
You are wrong with the 40 kg lighter for the 900 ! Or did CZcams compare with the “ OLD” 1200 ??
900 if travelling long distances
I like the idea of the shaft drive on the 1200, but a lighter touring bike makes far more sense in reality
The 1200 tours like a king and the 900 like an overweight enduro. On motorway tours the 1200 is roomy and silky smooth and 900 is thumpy and buzzy. For short road trips the and mild off-road work the 900 is fine. On long road trips, the 1200 all day long. I have an eight week tour to the Dolomite mountains and back planned for summer 2021 it's going to be 15 to 20% more comfortable on the 1200. A day trip, probably the 900. Plan what you are going to do with the bike before planning the bike. Either is going to be a world of fun though :)
@@dillcarver7731 haha, I get what you mean, but I toured on a dirtbike, so anything would be comfier and smoother than that! 😁
@@HippoDrones Sorry I don't know what you mean? I rode from Belize to Northern Mexico on a CanAm 250 in the 80's and needed a new nut sack by the time we reached Puerto Peñasco But if you are doing more motorway touring the 1200 is better than 900, hands down... is all I was saying.
@@dillcarver7731 absolutely, soz, I wasn't disagreeing, was just being flippant :-)
A lot of chaos in dude's talk . I don't know which bike is longer cause he confuses those two bikes .
If you want stats like wheelbase length that is the sort of thing you can get on their website.
Sorry but I love my Tiger 1200. I actually WANT the extra weight - feels more massive and secure to me - far less wind shifting at high speeds too. Would never downgrade.
how tall are you I'm looking at upgrading to 1200 I'm 5.8
@@123limelight I'm 5-10
So what about the 1200's shaft drive and the sheer power?
Shaft drive for me is as many cons as it is pros so not much to say. The power sure it has more but the 900 has enough. IMHO
@@spicy110 I wonder what cons of having a shaft drive ? There's must be something BMW been doing right, with a1250 cc 125hp boxer & a shaft driven bike? Best seller in the BMW lineup, best seller in the category 👍
@@Antimortem on of the biggest cons of a shaft drive is that this type of transmission loses about 20 % of power while chain transmission just around 5%. Power lose difference is substantial when comparing both.
@@Antimortem I would seat you on a BMW 1250 equipped with a chain and sane BMW with a shaft. You would then see the diff
@@paoloc3318 that's silly. Stop it. Chain drive is horrible, disgusting and bad. Period.
Maximum payload of the 900 is only 10Kg-12Kg less than the 1200, that's pretty good.
Terry Cox !!! Triumph Tiger 1200 legend! Your channel helped around my new Tiger 1200 Desert Edition no end (settings, adjustments and fitting electrical accessories, bodywork removal, bar risers etc). Appreciated. Thank you Sir!
@@dillcarver7731 - I know I know!! I’ll be on the 1200 for a long while yet.
I said to the dealership 1200 used or 800 new they said 1200.
@@harrier331 like I would take the dealerships opinion. I would probably do the opposite.
40kgs/88lbs is just under the weight of a bag of cement: imagine having that strapped to your bike, even with an extra 300 cc! Ask yourself this; is it possible to do a really comfortable fully loaded intercontinental bike adventure on a modern 900 cc bike?
I know they're terribly pretty and they're powerful and they can be ultra-ultra-ultra fast but the whole litre-plus bike market (especially the adventure models) seems highly questionable when you make practical comparisons based on the weight of a bag of cement!
Still... the manufacturers can't be wrong cos loads of people buy those huge machines.
The Triumph 900 does seem to make a lot of sense though.
But chain clean sucks i am really disturbing while long tours
You seem to miss the biggest difference! The 1200 is a shaft drive the 900 is chain! You won't notice the difference till about a year down the road of riding!
I didn't miss it, I just find the pros and cons of both to cancel each other out. I would be very surprised if many would pick one bike over the other over that alone.
There is no bike has no vibes ....even gs has vibes