Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro review - the perfect everyday bike?
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- The Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro is a seriously posh middleweight adventure bike that gives you all the toys you need but without a ludicrous amount of power. Is it perfect for the road? Or should you stump up a bit more cash and get a big-capacity adventure bike? Join me for a full walkaround and ride on country roads and dual carriageways to see if it's any good.
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I have had this bike for 6 months. I came to a conclusion, that this bike could easily compete to become an over all perfect bike, at least in ADV category. Power is spot on on a normal conditions (road and off road riding, not track days), it is great for filtering in London once you get used to the size of it, wind protection is really good, it is very comfortable and comes with more features than you would ever need. If you are going to have only 1 bike, this is a very serious contender. it can do almost everything and it will do it very well. I did touring in the Alps, it took lots of luggage, handled the twistiness of Stelvio and several more passes with no issues what so ever and left a lot of smile on my face every day. I would chose it above Tenere, KTM's, BMW's and even Africa Twin. Triumphs reliability is not as legendary as the big 4 from Japan, but it is for sure good enough. The only bike I could potentially choose over it could be Tenere 900 if it will ever be built. The engine from MT09 mixed with Yamahas experience with Tenere 700 and a need to compete with better specs bikes could end up with a proper beast.
I've got 10k trouble free miles on mine. 50/50 riding in Colorado. Best bike I've ever owned and I've had almost all of the ADV flavors.
Wow, good to hear. This is my next bike. I'll take it down to Northern Baja and go anywhere I want. However...I'm quite sure 80% of my riding will be street and highways...which this will be pretty comfy for long hauls I think.
What mods have you done if any?
What an enjoyable, amusing, concise and informative review!
I used to ride a beaten up old XTZ750 all over the UK for a few years and I absolutely loved it even though it was heavy and underpowered and made my wrists ache. That Tiger would be pure unadulterated luxury for me. I think Triumph have struck just the right chord with it in terms of size, power and character.
Loved the start "For some people who have lots of money". Though people have passion for adv bikes, budget decides their destiny.
I have a 2022 Tiger GT Low. So far it is a fantastic rider on road. It handles the long straights and the many twisties we have here in Idaho. The ride and handling are just great. Can't wait to get up in the mountain on the dirt roads and trails. Come on Spring/Summer !
Nice review. YT video I saw elsewhere showed you have to actually stall out the engine then the last riding mode is saved when you restart. But is really a bike that gets my spidey sense tingling. Might be in trouble next trip to the bike shop.
I just bought this bike yesterday. I am 5ft 7in and I have no problem getting on and off. I can't wait to give it a proper spanking. great video.
Ooo enjoy it!
Great review Tim! But I'm wanting to see you ride the new V2 streetfighter as a direct comparison to your old 950 hyper. After Neeve's review and your previous wafflings I have a suspicion I'd prefer the hyper for the road!
Enjoyed the review! This is top of my list for my next bike here in Colorado USA if petrol prices ever behave again. I think this would be a great option for me and how and where I would like to ride.
I have the 900 GT Low version of the Tiger. It does not come with heated seats (and there is no Low - Pro version) but it has the switch on the grip and connecters under the seat already installed. Just lift of the old seat, drop in the new one, attach the connector and it's ready. Thank you Triumph for making this easy.
Great review Tim!
I just went into a dealer sat on this and it was super comfy . Sitting on the bike brought me here
I'm 6'4" tall yet I bough this very model myself back about a year ago? Same white rally pro model I guess. I LOVE mine! Not all that heavy. It's a far more easier to manage about the roads with. Yep, I love mine.
Hi Simon, I'm seriously looking at the 900 in both GT Pro and Rally Pro. I prefer the Rally as I'm 6' 5" and the height of the Rally is more appealing. 99% of my riding will be on the road, how much road riding do you do? and would you say there is anything negative about that?
@@roblodge3818 I must confess I ride probably 90% road and only 10% off road...Yet that 10%? Totally worth the extra few K
Very high quality review with highly professional smooth presentation. Congratulations. Lots of useful points, but the more important by far for myself as a 6'2" rider was the fairing. Triumph really got that right it seems by your comments and comparisons with the competitors' screens. Pity other manufacturers don't realise the positive impact of putting a slot in the right place to allow air to flow up the inside of the screen to cut turbulence.
Thanks James!
The wind buffeting is probably the single most important thing, along with the 6th gear ratio and engine RPM's at 70mph. Strangely, the engine RPM's and wind protection, are almost an afterthought. I'm extremely disapointed in motorcycle reviewers. It's the reviewers who determine what features motorcycles have. The engineers listen to the critics. But strangely, there aren't any critics! Reviewers just give every single motorcycle a favorable review, even if it has horrible wind protection and no 6th gear, and is turning 5,200 rpms at 50 mph. Every review I've ever watched gives glowing praise to bikes with improper gear ratios, and no overdrive. Every modern motorcycle should have overdrive.
I’m 6’2” on a 2016 KLR. I struggle most days to find any way to reduce buffeting. I loved the comments here as I’ve been dreaming of finding another bike with a cocoon of comfort. This may not be a cocoon, but much more my taste than the Goldwing, Concours, or R1250RT I’ve been dreaming about. In the adventure bike world, the GS is the only bike I’ve regularly seen given props for wind protection.
Great informed review, just found you and I've subscribed for more content
Thank you!
Have the seat on wrong, low position except the front is in the upper position. Too funny. I did the same thing one mine. Great video! I wish there were more videos on the Rally. But either way I am three weeks into mine and obsessed, hooked, addicted!! Amazing. Amazing bike!! I wish it was only 13.5$ I paid 19.6K for mine. Inflation is a bunch of BS!
Good review. There are more standard upscale features that you missed, like the self-cancelling turnsignals and the tubeless spoked wheels, the fog lights, tire pressure monitoring, and powered suspension adjustment. Just something worthwhile mentioning since the KTM 890 and the Ducati Multistrada were mentioned.
I'm 6'3" as well & almost 67 years old. I just stand on the peg to mount up. To kick a leg over it while standing on the ground would be impossible for me.
I'm 6ft2 and 41. That's how I get on every bike. It's so easy.
Great review! I think I’ll get one. Oh…. I already have, in green. 😳
Good review 👍 had rally pro for 6 months... love it... im 5'7 have the low seat option for when im solo and put the standard back on with pillion riding no real drama... I swapped the rubber out for Pirelli scorpion str so much better if you plan some green riding, honestly say its a dream to ride..
Edit: I found the breaks took a while to bed in... I thought the same at first they we're a bit soft , now there sweet or I've just got used to them.
Being 5’7 are you able to flat feet both legs with the low seat
@@jackchristodoulou197 im 5´6 and i have it lowered 3 CM with low seat setting, and 2CM higher Boots, i cant put both feet flat down but its fine u get used to it. i usually just get off when i need to push it, slow off road is really a bit tricky i admit
Have you still got the Tiger 900? I'm looking at selling my GSA. Purely from a weight perspective. 267kg isn't ideal after breaking my back a year ago.
Good review. Love the bike, looks excellent for daily commutes up the A12.
I used to do that to Liverpool St from Chelmsford many, many years ago. Someone tried to nick my bike the very first time I did it
Hi Nick, I prefer the Rally version, but 99% of riding will be road, have you got any negatives with road riding on the Rally Pro?
Ave Maria
I am 6ft 6inch tall and love my Tiger !!!
This was a Great Road review, thank you. I’m always interested in how they feel though when standing up. You’re about my height, are you hunched over very much when standing? Do you feel like you could do some decent off-road while standing up?
Seat isn't on it's lower position (it sits flush with tank) 👍 the engine bars are standard, you pay extra for the upper tank protection bars with a spot light relocation kit 🙂
Well spotted! It is on the low position at the rear (hence the step to the pillion seat), but high at the front. Hence the gap to the tank. I made that mistake initially on my bike. You have to tease the “tongue” at the front into the lower position 👍😎
Whoa! Settle down there tiger! Sorta odd name for a bike when I stop and think too much about it.
I likey likey very muchly. Must get a Trumpy of some description before I die.
The accountant says it's not the bike for me, said I can get a Royal Enfield calendar tho.
Myself TBH, I’m a shaft drive fan because I hate mucking around with chains. My default bike in this category is the Guzzi V85tt with two lovely big pots. Ridden one of those lately.
I haven’t - it’s on my list though!
Triumph just released the new Tiger 1200 wich has shaft drive is up to 25 kg lighter than the previous model. Guzzi are nice too i would go for v100 mandello.
Agree, I often forget this when I sometimes look at the 900 Rallye Pro when I have a V85 in the garage.
Damn I found my own comment again. Looks like I should give the RP a try.
Luddite
Hi thanks for the review. Can you make a review of bmw F750GS and 900 GT Pro and compare the two motorcycles?
For two years now the necessary “feature” for most new motorcycles is real world availability.
True dat
I've got one of these on loan while my Bonneville is in for a service. It's very good but I'm finding it rather dull to be honest, it's powerful but not exciting and despite being lighter than my own bike it feels heavier.
It is very comfy and very stable though.
Great review great voice
Aww thanks!
Bonjour! You mentioned in a review a while back that you’d pick various bikes to do the Route Napoléon and would like to get back there…… I was wondering if you felt there was a “best part” of that route…..as I’m planning a rip along there 😃👍
It's a weird one - there's a big gap in the middle of the Route Napoleon where it sort of disappears and you end up on motorways for a bit... I tend to start near Grenoble, then follow the N85 to La Mure, and stay on it all the way to Gap. Then it gets boring - so just head via whichever twisty route you favour towards Digne. Then hop back on the N85 as it twists south. I like both bits of it!
Good review mate
Thanks 👍
Nice review 👍
Thanks!
This is the most impressive design wise out if all the ADV bigger bikes. IMO.
It's the most beautiful ADV bike. The Tiger has it all, and the triple engine is the best configuration. But I feel like they maybe shot themselves in the foot with switching the crankshaft to an uneven firing interval. Now the engine fires at random intervals, instead of evenly spaced, regular intervals. Their triple engines were highly regarded, and the change to a T-Plane crank seems almost like an impulsive and reckless engineering decision. Normal bike manufacturers wouldn't completely abandon their most highly regarded engine, that is well loved by the community, in order to try to mimic someone else? I feel like Triumph was jealous of the Harley Pan America sales, and the Honda Africa Twin and especially the Yamaha Tenere 700 with it's own "T Plane" 270 degree "lumpy" sound. Triumph wanted to get in on the "lumpy" sound, although they didn't need to do that!
Give your opinion between Used R1200gs (2016) VS Tiger Rally pro (2020). Focus on road 90% but i love the look of rally style(tall bike) sweet spot 140-160 km/hr, thanks for you comment. I don’t like gt pro T_T
Hate the rev counter. Love everything else
I did at first too. HORRIBLE design from some millenial "game" software UI developer. VERY poor use of screen space, regardless of the "mode". You do get used to it though, because you HAVE TO. That said, the TFT/Bluetooth package clearly proves that Triumph is NOT a very good software company. It's pretty half assed for the money. Almost ZERO compatability testing with peripherals (Go-Pro, phones etc.) And ZERO dealer knowledge or customer support. Verry 1990's.
Suitable for carrying a pillion plus full luggage on a 900 or is the 1200 XRT suitable
Great bike
This would be 2nd choice to my tracer 900gt,lovely bike.
Do you think the Tracer has the smoother engine? Yamaha didn't switch to the lumpy T-Plane crank yet did they? They made the R1 a "T Plane" and it totally wrecked the sound of the R1. The R1 sounds good at idle, but horrific at higher RPMs now.
10:54. Lovely video so far. But how many RPM's are you turning at 70 mph? What are your thoughts on 6th gear RPM's and engine vibration at speed. Is the engine revved up unnecessarily high? I've read reviews from people who say the new T-Plane has too much vibration.
Hi Ritalie. I have a green one, and I love it. I’m 6 ft tall, and I find the bike very relaxed at 70mph. Not sure what revs it’s running at that speed (and I can’t check for you because there’s SNOW 😩 outside), but I can say that the wind protection, for me, is perfect: no buffeting at all at the highest setting. I get no vibes at that speed either, although if you really search for them they are there, but not in a bad way. I find it very addictive. I can sit ALL DAY on mine, although I use one of those air-cushion seat pads….BLISS. Suffered hellish bum-ache without it! Also, I reckon the RPM levels must be decent because I’m achieving over 60 mpg, and I don’t hang about! Downsides? Not keen on the 55 inch screen television in front of me, and it badly needs a hugger: the whole back end gets FILTHY! Hope that all helps…….ride safe buddy!
Theres a SMALL vibration in the torque curve at around 4200rpm (firing order/torque related), but above that its traditional triple smooth. Previous 800 or Triumph triple owners will feel it more than someone coming from a V-twin. With a 46t rear sprocket *(OEM), you won't get additional vibration until around 85mph. Very easy to dampen with a few silicone shims. Anyone claiming "too much" vibration should probably test on various road surfaces instead of automatically attributing to the bike.
I love my 900 GT Pro that I took delivery of last June, a great bike. The only niggle is that you set up the bike with the electronic damping, heated grips and seat but when you call for petrol and switch off, all the settings are cancelled and you have to reset everything again in the garage forecourt. I am 5ft 9in and no problem with the seat height.
Can you explain this again in American? Lol. I didn't understand what you were saying. Your terminology is a bit different. Forecourt? Call for petrol? What exactly do these terms mean? I've never heard these terms before. How do you like the "T-Plane" crankshaft? Is the engine buzzy at high speeds? In the USA, if you travel anywhere, you most likely have to travel at high speed on long flat roads. I feel like modern motorcycles are just not designed for actual extended highway use. Modern gear ratios seem to be designed around closed course race tracks at wide open throttle. When you're only using light throttle, the super low gear ratios on motorcycles are not particularly helpful.
If you leave it in gear the setting stay.
@@Ritalie Petrol=gas. Forecourt is the area of the gas station where you pump the fuel.
The heated grips suck.
Why would you get this over the Tenere? Just faster n more features? Its a beauty the 900 I must say.
Am thinking of the Tenere or the Triumph 660 as a second bike. Also the Motto Guzzi like the look of that....
Even the KTM 390 prob be ok to learn on..(the 2022 version getting more features?)
Consider the Tenere as more "bare bones". Cable throttle vs. "wire" etc. Not much tech. Super functional, but different class.
I have to ask, how does it compare with the Scrambler 1200 (XC/XE), on the road?
Only because I have an XE, and I love it. (dropped it by 10mm, and I can flat foot with both feet). On specs alone, mileage is equivalent, but the XE owns on torque so low down (and I don't go higher than 4k rpm on my daily commute).
It's been a long time since I rode a Scrambler - I've only ridden the XE. Really love that bike, but the Tiger's the better road bike - more wind protection, really. You can still ride the Tiger at low revs, it's smoother all-round than the Scrambler. But doesn't have the looks!
Hi Tim, if it were your money, would you go Rally Pro or Gt Pro based on 99% road riding?
GT or GT Pro. "Off pavement (80/20)" is different than "Off-Road (50/50)= Rally). The GT geometry and wheel designs are capable of off pavement, but GT's are designed as ROAD biased machines.
Hey Rodie I have to say I like the look of the Triumphs more than the KTM'S and it has to be said the Triumph inclued the quick shifter in the sale price were as KTM charge extra to plug in into a computer and connect it . Cheers : )
Yeah the KTM unlock prices are a bit cheeky. But I guess it makes sense to build bikes identically and unlock profit via software!
@@timrodierides Yeh I do understand that profit is king I guess , but seems a bit underhand although from the production side yes does any other make do that ?. : )
Are they as reliable as Honda? How many miles will the engine do?
Use the peg to get on the bike. Simples!
yep
You need to include a shot of you sitting on the bike, so we can see how it fits a tall rider.
Free Lance 💥
Hi Tim, you said a while ago you would tell us about your new bike?
Ah yes. Update on that: I lost my job! Hopefully something new will be acquired in 2022 (bike and job…). Sorry!
@@timrodierides sorry to hear that hope all goes well!
Got one of these bad boys. I'm 6ft 5 and I'm upgrading the screen as I get a lot of wind blast from my shoulders, not bothered, gotta personalise a bike after all. Lots more power trapped in the engine, butterflies are only open 80% in 5th and 6th past about 8k rpm, neutral throttle is jerky as well. Considering getting it flashed next year to smooth this out and let's be honest, more power
How is the T-Plane engine?
@@Ritalie It's a genuine blend of twin and triple. Punchy and vibey down low and smooth up high. It's totally different to the 765/675 motor but it suits the bike and I can see how it'd work better off road. On the road, it's just punchier down low, sounds great with an aftermarket slip-on
@@TheRtHonJimStiffOG have u found anyone to flash the ECU
@@freeheelsak Not yet, but I haven't been looking to be honest
@@TheRtHonJimStiffOGhave you done anything to your tiger ECU yet
Seriously considering moving down from a GSA1250 to a GT PRO, says it all really…
13,500 ? Every dealer in my area has a new rally pro for 17k and up.....
£
I've long had a soft spot for the Tiger, but of course the same is true of many bikes. The old "Lottery Wish List" is bursting at the seams. But I suspect, much like my love affair from afar with the Honda Varadero, I am unlikely to ever have a Tiger between my legs; although in the past I have often had a Tiger in my tank...
Maybe I should resurrect my presenting career and try my hand at motor journalism?
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fajna recenzja, nam go jest biały i jestem z niego zadowolony, pozdrawiam 👌👍
Andrzej Poland
Hej. Zastanawiam się nad takim i oglądam recenzje - gdzie krytykują Triumpha Tiger 900 Rally za mocne wibracje od prędkości 120 km/h w górę. A jak jest u Pana pod tym względem ? Czy to prawda i jak bardzo to jest dokuczliwe ? Pozdrawiam
@@jerzygroclinek5066 - jakos niespecjalnie odczuwam drgania na nim, miałem poprzednio BMW 1200 rt, varadero 1000 xl, i tam bardziej było to czuć- wiec na tigerze nie czuję drgań, teraz będzie to mój 3- ci sezon na nim, pzdr i napisz👍
@@andrzejczarny48 dzięki za info. Tak właśnie myślałem , że w trakcie testów wyszukują na siłę wad. To może jeszcze zapytam - przy spokojnej jeździe na asfalcie - jakie jest przybliżone spalanie ?
@@jerzygroclinek5066 mi pokazuje 5.1 -5.15 l/100km, i nie było więcej- a spokojna trasa 120/130 to 4.8/4.9 l, tez się wahałem ale jestem z niego zadowolony, lekki i super wyważony- varadero było ciężkà„krową 👍
@@andrzejczarny48 Super. Dzieki raz jeszcze za pomocne info. Coraz bardziej skłaniam się do tego moto.
Shaft drive would have peaked my interest.
WEIGHT. Step up to the 1200 for shaft.
Black, White and "Car key"?
Khaki?
I did the kielder 500 in rain and mud on oe tyres, the bike looks after you. However stop describing stuff as everyday bike. I live in a small village Scotland. My everyday is a lot different to someone who lives in a city. If you are not doing off road get the gt.
To say my word and the Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro it is a good bike but to high so i purchased 1 month ago and i don't use it so i try to sell it because i feel unsafe on a bike that i must use my toes to reah the ground so this bike was waist of money for me!
So be sure you can reach the ground before purchase this one!
A very good bike... but zero sales in Spain. Top trail bikes are: GS, Teneré 700, Africà Twin, far away are KTM 890, V-Strom. The best bikes (Multistrada & Tiger 900) no sales
The dash isnt great. The graphics on the screen are slow to move. The vibrations through the footpegs are not good particularly on longer rides. The pillon grab rails sit above the pillon seat and catch the foot when getting on and off the bike. Some of the electronic settings are not saved, required that they be re-set when you next start the bike. I give this bike 7 out of 10.
I hate how slow the graphics are...
The hoses/cables above the front wheel and behind the fork look trashy.
All take the new 660 over 5k cheaper
GT Pro has elec suspension, Ralley doesn't.
compared to the Suzuki Vstrom its shit ATB thanks for your vlog
Haha thanks. Do you happen to own a Suzuki Vstrom perchance?
@@timrodierides well yeah i do and iv owned triumphs also and a 90 degree vstrom engine is always the best ATB thanks for your reply 🙏🏻👍🏻
@@wombal177jim fair enough. Would you also consider a Multistrada V4? It’s the best adventure bike I’ve ridden
@@timrodierides yeah if you have another 8 grand on top at least it all comes down to one thing the Suzuki is a tool you ride every day the v4s is your hobby simple 👍🏻
Keep putting everything down to the T plane crank. I expect it's because it's 900cc now. I bet an 800cc with the T plane crank would have nothing. No extra torque, no urgency. And pulling 40mph in 6th is no big deal for a 900cc bike.
OK Chris 👍 Thanks for watching!
ALL triples have loads of low end torque. The T-Plane holds the grunt longer. A equal firing triple spins up too fast for many off road riders, which is why the change from the 800. "Tractability" plus lower geometry.
Dipping your fist in a blancmange? Who does that? Other than Harley riders, of course.
You've not been thrown out of a supermarket's dessert aisle, clearly
KTM fan boi.
Oh totally. Let's pretend I've not owned a Daytona 675, Street Triple and Speed Trip! I'm just telling it how I see it to be honest...
Triumph’s dash display is utter rubbish!
Too fiddly and fussy, pastel shade colours, the last decent display was on the 2020 Speed triple RS, every one has been terrible ever since, enough to stop me buying any of them 🤷🏻♂️!
It's not a perfect everyday bike for sure
Yeah, it actually IS.
get someone else to check your height lol
Your mum checked it last night
Yo man good video but really you talk too much on your next videos don't talk so much man
No? Go away?
So annoying
Thanks!