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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 04. 2024
- Simon Jordan, Danny Murphy and Jim White discuss the future of Erik ten Hag at Manchester United.
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When o when will these muppets realise that the emphasis should be on getting rid of players more than the manager
But these are the same players who got us to the final. It was a long road, but we are there. We're a successful cup team, which is not to be snuffed at. Our stronger players have pulled us through this season. Scotty, Onana, Maguire, Mainoo, Bruno, and Rasmus. That's the spine of our team for us to build on.
the same players the manager signed would be the player you get rid of first
â@@frankbevan413Bullshit. You basically mean Antony. You wouldn't get rid of Martinez first ahead of the other CBs, Rasmus wouldn't be out of the door before Martial, Mount is only 24 and long term could replace Bruno at #10. The players out first are likely the ones signed by Van Gaal, Jose and Ole that are all still at the club.
@@jamieh4357talking rubbish mate, our best players this season are ole signings and our worst are ten hag signings
Youâve got no chance with Seven Hag hahahah
Why are you guys not talking about Poch not deserving to be Chelsea manager next year, ETH always getting the heat.
Because itâs Pochâs 1st season at Chelsea. Itâs 2nd season for Ten Hag. Massive differences
@@Stewie-A-Simpsonlol. Ten Hag had all this in his first season too
Eth finished 3rd, was in 2 finals and won one cup in the first season. What's your point
â@gianadhillon2130 Jose did better and won in Europe, so go and bring him back. Clown happy to have such a mediocre manager at your club
Chelsea are a small club in comparison. Manchester United will always be big news
1:55 Ten Hag ties himself up in knots and Murphy can't even remember his own sentence
Sacking the manager before getting rid of players won't change a thing. If United sack the manager that means they won't be able to do level of clearout required in summer to get on the right path.
I'm a united fan and evan if ETH stays I seriously have doubts about the level of clear out people think is going to happen
@@leemartin3429 I think Wilcox and Berrada will get it done if ETH stays.
@@TheSt1092 I'm sure they will its to what level though
@@leemartin3429 Only the ones out of contract. With a new manager we only gettin g rid of 4/5 players when we need more than 10 out.
Ya a manager finishing 7th, bottom of a piss easy champions league group, tactically inept and with the character of a stone should be kept for another year. Great logic.
New manager going to make Casemiro's legs 5 years younger, or fix Varane's knee's, or fix Rashford's psychology, or make Maguire more mobile, or make Cristian Eriksen more dynamic? No.. so what will that new manager do exactly.. probably get similar results and we'll be asking why it's still not working this time next year?
It's not just about the head coach, it's about a functional long term player recruitment strategy over the next 3 years and beyond. When you get that right then you can hire and fire head coaches as much as you like without having to rebuild every time you do it.. or not rebuild in Utd's case and end up with a squad that (when De Gea was still there) had worked under 6 different managers and 3 interim managers over a 12 year period. This is the legacy of Ed Woodward and Joel Glazer's management of Man Utd over that time.. it's much bigger than Ten Hag.
Nailed it
@@dagdag3805 I get it right from time to time.. they've been having the same conversation about managers since Jose left.. at some point these pundits might realise the obvious.. it's about having the best players in the league in their positions or at least 5 of them. Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen, Rashford, Antony, Martial, Rasmus, Dalot, McTominay.. all decent footballers but don't fall into that category at the moment, so what do people expect? Without all the injuries they're a 4th place side. Fans need a reality check.
Considering the injuries Utd have had this year getting to a final is a good achievement full stop. People moan about Ten Hag but one great thing he has done is shown who at the club actually wants an deserves to be there - Rashford and Sancho being the prime examples of true attitudes showing through.
Exactly. Yes, sometimes he makes questionable subs, Rashford should have been benched a long time ago, and I wish we'd have kept De Gea and not loaned Pellistri. But not even considering the rest of the outfield, this season we've had Maguire and Evans out for a month or two, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Lindelof and Varane out for a few months, and Martinez and Malacia basically out for the whole season. I think we maybe had one game where we had Shaw, Martinez, Varane and Dalot line up at the back which is arguably our best defence.
I think the way ten hag showed disrespwct to de gea and the start of the season, cost him with a few players subconciously goingbagaiant him
Wigan, Newport, Forest, Liverpool (who are on the slide and were the better team) CoventryâŠ
Getting to a final is obviously a good achievement but when you look at who we played to get there, itâs not particularly impressive.
Weâre a truly terrible team with an abysmal manager. I canât wait for the summer when he gets sacked
3 finals in 2 seasons is good for the current Utd squad considering they are pants
Could not agree more mate
United are 16th in Xpoints, 12th in Xgoals, 9th in goal difference, joined 13th in goals scored with Luton. We are 16th in Xgoals conceeded. But we are 7th in the league.
Last season we got 6th in XG, 6th in XP(points), 6th in goal difference and joined 7th in goals scored - But we ended 3rd.
We were lucky last season and even more lucky this season - Factual.
There is allowed for every United fan to look a little bit behind the results. There are absolutely no reasons for why ETH should continue as United manager. Not one.
@@thomasgundersen8975 đ„± was just saying mate
no it isnt, look at the piss easy cup runs, if ten hag is so good why are we 7th and bottom of our ucl group
â@@Musakhan23901Still knocked Liverpool out. Not a completely piss easy cup run....
You cannot learn on the job, when you're the manager of Manchester United. I agree 100% with everything these lads have said about the current Manchester United manager. If they persist with him, they will continue to regress while yet again, other clubs will move forward. Manchester United must get with the times, they must start working towards future success and not dwell on past formulas for success. The days of where you had a manager for 27 years, that's gone. Find your Pep Guardiola, do not persist with your Ten Hag just because you feel sorry for him. Remove your empathy, embrace the future.
thats the same thing they have been saying under jose ,ole,lvg when are u gonner realize that its the players getting the managers under the bus do you think if you bring in pep and provided he has money and no financial fair play rules 70% of this players will be there definetly not so use your head not your heart
Never thought I'd hear Danny Murphy giving early 2000s Klaus Topmoller some credit for his run at Leverkusen
What Simon Jordan said about ETH in the opening minutes is EXACTLY the way I feel about Simon Jordan
Smug, entitled & ignorant.
I wonder if Ten Hag believes all the bs that comes out of his mouth. Its ridiculous.
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No doubt you know better the he
@@garethmccartan3636
Everyone with half a brain knows better than that deluded fraud
Danny Murphy predicted Liverpool would beat Atalanta 4 nil so we know how good his ball knowledge is.
Do you expect him to accurately predict the future all the time because he is a pundit?
@haiirofox Dumb comment!
murphy s a total @r5e
Non existing
What a ridiculous statement. I'm no Danny Murphy fan and definitely not a Liverpool but a 4 nil Liverpool win wouldn't of surprised me. Murphy said he wouldn't be surprised if they won 4 nil NOT that they definitely WOULD, you can hardly hold that against him! I supposed you got correct score, goalscorer and minute correct did you?
Media have bullied him before he even managed the club
Right
cuz they haven't got wenger have a go at them were the days.đą
@travismcmillan......yet Poch gets a free pass every time
Letâs not forget that the players are at fault too. Fair enough ETH hasnât helped himself with his management in games, but Man Utd have been in this situation since Sir Alex left. If ETH leaves weâre back to square one again.
Letâs remember, weâre currently closing out the season without the first choice back 4. We have a right play having to play left back, Casemiro as centre back, Maguire (who he tried to sell all summer) as the only CB left. In midfield, Mainoo (18) is playing his first season. Garnacho his second full season. Hojlund, who i think is really good, still a kid and first time in the PL. Rashford⊠dont get me started. Have some perspectiveâŠ
At any regular club, Mainoo wouldnât be starting every week, nor would Garnacho. Hojlund would have competition from an experienced 9. PerspectiveâŠ
Wise words
how does that excuse getting battered by brentford fulham bournemouth and copenhagen?
Yep, so based on that, Coventry became Real Madrid. Sometimes, I wonder if it is the useless egghead himself typing these deluded comments surly the United fans base has not become this delusional
â@Musakhan23901 Exactly đŻ. Some Manchester United fans are obsessed with mediocre, hence their support for a mediocre manager
Same panel, same question, same idiotic logic and opinion - unfollowing as these are biased and agenda driven discussions. No one talks about players, but blame ETH for everything
Iâm sure you wonât be missed đ
@@edwardeverett1157 another idiot!
@@edwardeverett1157 yet another idiot in the frame! đ€Ł
Oh you poor thing.
I blame the glazers! My wife ran off with the milkman yesterday and I blame the glazers đđ
Thatâs because you had no bottle
I've heard the glazers have something to do with global warming, too, apparently đ§
Sorry to hear that James, I hope youâre ok.
Imagine how tragic you must be
Thing is the fans would understand if you did have injuries but had a actual formation or way of playing because people aren't stupid if they can see progress then they will give you time. This manager has had what 400 million and 2 years and still has no clue what to do and what's worst makes excuses.
2 trophies lad pipe down
@@batmancr007 2 trophies?? Wtf are you talking about? You pipe down, you clown
He lost the dressing room ages ago , the players donât play for him , or even defend him
If you can't play for yourself then you don't deserve to play football,it is that simple.
I agree but it looks like the players want him gone and players hold the power nowadays
â@jameshollyoak8230 honestly I hate being abusive in any way but you literally don't have a clue what you're on about.
If these players wanted him gone, United would be in the bottom half of the league and not in a third cup final under Ten Haag.
He has the best win record of any United manager after this many games in a squad decimated by injuries from the very start of the season and still.
Marcus Rushford should never play for United again if we go by your logic, mind you that wouldn't be the worst thing.
Now, sorry about the abuse, I'm a Christian and hate talking down to anyone but I'm sick of people's attitude toward this man, it's ridiculous.
God bless you đ
ETH IS AT THE WHEEL đđđ
that is funny!
he defo needs another year. at the very least to see what the club can be with ineos and the new staff on the way.
when the club is run properly and not just as a cash machine, we start seeing improvements on the pitch.
ofcourse this means alot of players have to go before the manager does.
He absolutely does not need it deserve another year and he definitely wonât get one. He should have been sacked when we finished bottom of the CL group. Heâs a clueless fraud
United will always be the talk of the premier league cos they are and always will be the biggest club in the premier league.
I don't agree with the 'progression' chat. His first season at a powerhouse club, his motivation would have been to build his own team - he had little to no support. He is clearly deflated.. he probably didn't want to work with the players he had. He would have been given reassurances and in typical MU ways they leave the manager out to dry.
Funny thing is they can beat City, they just need to learn how to park the bus properly which is not easy, just leave rashford or garnacho at the half way line without him defending and hit on the counter
He ties himself in knots with where he goes with his conversations... Forgets his sentence đ€Łđ€Ł absolute jockey!
It's almost as if English isn't his first language.
It's the cocaine that does that to your mind
You just described Joe Biden
Ten Hag talks nonsense
It took the arsenal coach 5 years to compete. EtH is in his second year... give him a break!
Simon doenst watch football. saying Garnacho doesnt track back is crazy. The guy works harder than anyone.
Mother language got nothing 2 do with how well spoken u r or can bâŒïžđ
I blame the Glazers and Gary Neville.
we have to blame Pogba also. Don't let that scoundrel off the hook.
just listen to his press conference he's living in cuckoo land our league performances are shocking and i have no idea what our style of play is but ETH is seeing different matches than the ones I'm watching
I hope eth gets one more season last season wasnt bad this season, a bit of a mess but those boys do play for him
Unbelievable how people in the comments are still defending ETH.
You would be retarded not to, he was always in a losing battle
Tens out of his depth massively⊠my god his bought in Onana , Amribat, gives mount the No7 âŠ. The way he treat Maguire and Sancho and continues to back Anthony whoâs not worth a carrot. His broke every record fir the wrong reasons this season so on that his gotta go but the players need to hang their heads in shame also
Amrabat was an last min loan signing due to mainoo's injury. mount wasn't his signing you clearly can see that because there's no position for him in the side. Majority of you clowns wanted de gea gone so he needed a keeper.
@@mikeyL575 you are clueless. Mount was definitely Ten Hagâs signing. He has said so himself.
Onana, Malacia, Casemiro, Hojlund, Antony, Weghörst, Sabitzer, Amrabat, Mount, Eriksen, Reguilon⊠all very average/poor signings, and all Ten Hag signings.
He has no clue about anything, never mind just transfers
I don't take Simon seriously because the last time Man utd was in FA cup final was in 2016, 8 years ago. Don't act like Man utd are the same as they were 15 years ago. It is an achievement looking at the recent times for United, give the guy some credit, he has been in 3 Cup finals in 2 years. Such an agenda against Ten Hag, its astounding
Give Ten Hag four more years! âïžđ
With the right set up and a clear out of players, ten hag would be able to do things
Please can you all start speculating who will be the next manager? Could do with a laugh
Danny Murphy is the poster child for âJust say no to drugsââŠ..he needs some help here and no one can see the obvious signs!
If they would have believed it, things would have been okay, but they BELIEVE it, which really makes a difference.
United scraped through against Wigan, Newport, Forest, Coventry and got lucky against Liverpool. Hardly a major achievement.
Did they win?
@@mikeyL575 Was winning those games evidence that Ten Hag isnât a clueless fraud?
How can they get to a final while beating Liverpool on the way there and players are not playing for him?
I am a 30 plus year United fan and this manager is not the answer. Its a huge job that he hasnât got to grips with. I agree that clubs shouldnât just change for the sake of it. But he has taken the club backwards and makes players worse. Time for him and the likes of Rashford to be moved on. They are done and need another place.
Talksport continue their campaign to get Ten Hag sacked.
Hatred, adored never ignored
Bore off
@@multipl3 No
Just hated.
Horrible horrible club with horrible horrible fans!
Four words and you still couldn't get it right đ
These players take objection to being told what to do because they donât realise what it means to be a Man Utd player. Theyâre acting at Man Utd how they probably acted at their youth clubs. Egos as big as their over the top salaries
Tough situation.
I really thought he was going somewhere last year.
This is year he proved he is not progressing.
Maybe one more window to see who he can get rid of.
Maybe get rid of him.
-Arsenal fan
I disagree. Ten Hags style of play suits United, which is why we got him in the first place, our injuries haven't helped us this season and that can't be overlooked. Coming 3rd and getting to 2 cup finals in your first season was amazing, especially with his style of play and I agree with the media's bias against him
I'll have what you're smoking, please đđ»
So if we get rid of ten hag, the next manager I will have expectations of him getting to at least two cup finals and to win a cup. I'm not saying ten hag has had a great season, or the performances of the team are good, but in his two years, he's been to 3 cup finals, won one, potentially could win fa cup this year, it warrants him at least another year at the club
KLOPP arrived at Liverpool 2015, didn't win his first major trophy until 2019
The creme dela crud of football pundits here.
âIâve lost my train of thoughtâŠ.â
Yep. Charles will do that
So his answer is Southgate or Potter??! This man is the definition of having an agenda. Give me a break!!
players havent played for the last 4 managers. what are these lot talking about
Looks like Moyes might be free in the summer đ
Simon you did it again. FayenHood for Feyenord đ. You are a classic
Jim says he doesn't know what the problems are???? How about a league-worst injury crisis(that's a fact as much as the sky is blue), a takeover saga that only ended in Jan this year; Sancho, Ronaldo, Rashford, Antony all having off-field issues. Are these guys supposed to be journalists or they just employ random guys with controversial opinions cause I know a few guys you could get off the street who can do that.
so what substance did kloop have last season then when his whole team downed tools đ
These guys really wants to see Ten Hag gone ?đđ
Not one Man Utd manager stands a chance in todayâs day and age. People like these lot constantly hounding, mocking and belittling you. Itâll never work. These people couldnât lace ETHâs shoes.
Give it another 4 years and we will say exactly the same thing, another 2 managers thrown under the bus, first season these players who lost 3-0 lead all of a sudden become title challengers, those players Jose said he wanted to get rid of are still playing for the club. Rashford becomes balon dor contender before a contract extension. The mainstream media blaming the other managers whilst having the same players. We know how itâs gone over the years and itâs getting boring.
The media know utd sell, and nothing sells more than utds misfortunes. I think the whole glazer thing is blown up way more than it should be. It's a narrative the media pushed, and everyone fell for it. I don't think there are leaks every other day. It's easy to come out and say players arnt happy, we could work that out. The media says it was a leak. That aside I think it's the part now where either keep ETH to try and get rid of players. But ETHs signing have been pretty poor so would you trust him with more money?? Doesn't help that utd don't really have any decent assets to sell. Rashford maybe but his stock has dropped and utd will have to sell 15 players to buy 7 which then thins out an already thinned squad. ETH has shown nothing to show he's the man or can be the man I'm afraid.
We will see Simon I think you all forget the squad we would have had without injuries
Glad youve got your own channel bethy †đđ» move over to UV
Write off half of the squads contract value, build from the academy. The only way. Player power is toxic in there.
Agree with Danny Murphy - heâs done
The players in that Man Utd team are a total shambles, there is a clique in that club and they want the easy life coasting through season after season. Until the instigators are gone, whoever comes in will have the same problems.
I'm very interested to know how CRYSTAL PALACE was doing under the ownership of Simon Jordan.
The gentleman talks a lot only that I dislike when he calls a grown up in ETH that speaks a lot of nonsense, really?
I as a rival fan would be gutted if ten hag goes
In other news danny Murphy still believes santa is real
Clubs has never one a game in there existence but teams win trophies united need a team that can play and club that can shut up
4:48 do you mean Dortmund Danny?
What about the players. I can say with a straight face that 70% of Man Utd's players don't deserve to be playing for that badge.
What worries is me is the player play the same week in week out. Is the way they are playing what ETH wants? Rashford staying forward for a counter for example. Everyone is talking about him being dropped for not tracking back yet ETH backs him. Surely Rashford knows and has heard enough to think I best pull my socks up. But no, which leads me to think he's doing exactly what he's told and the same for the rest of the team.
Nobody talks about Eddie Howe though
Ten hag certainly overachieved last season⊠this season has been horrific. On and off the pitch
I disagree with you, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham underachieved last season which is why Manchester United finished 3rd. If they didn't, Manchester United would of finished 6th which is pretty normal of the club for the last 10 years excluding a few seasons
This season on and off the pitch being horrific - definitely agree with you
Obsessed with Erik, he ainât getting the sack and I hope United continue with him just to see there faces.
I have no issues with people backing ETH. But I don't see for a single second what he's done or said to be obsessed over him? There are so so many more negatives towards any positives.
He is definitely getting the sack. Heâs the worst manager weâve had in 50 years. Aside from Wilder and Kompany, heâs the worst in the league
Im worried United will win and we end up keeping him! Completely tactically inept!
That is a bit deluded,but hes the right man with a very wrong squad đ€
imagine having a manager who is estatic for making a final without winning it. complete DELUSION.
The cocaine has fried Danny's brain. Cant recall his thoughts but he feels ETH gets tied in knots
Ten Hag is the man †don't listen to these plonkers đ
Luckily, INEOS wonât be listening to plonkers who think Ten Hag âis the manâ
Do you guys see the type of players United have had in the past 8 years⊠this team canât be analyzed like other teams because this has to many problems.
Lazy pundits not mentioning the record high injury ridden season. Mind blown đ€Ż how 1 dimensional this discussion is.
You can do better guys youâre poor
These players are pathetic bunch of over paid bums. Ten Hag isn't up to scratch I agree. But these players need to go long before Ten Hag does.
Im just gping to love it when all you who think hes getting the sack, see him getting extension. Ten Hag isnt the problem. Youre just fickle and expect immediate success after a decade witn the same drivel of players. JOKERS
You are delusional. Quite sad actually
Is this mark goldbridge?
@@josephhall5136 another W. We move. Whilst you keep hating. Lmao! I'm sure you were hurt
â@nashmadamombe1010 yet another fan celebrating a win over the worst team in the league and cracking on they've won the champs league. I'm not hurt at all. I go to OT more than most utd fans, It's sad to see the fans celebrating mediocrity. And to say another W like utd are racking them up this seasonđand a manager that's is absolutely deluded is beyond a joke
So delusional
Mikel Arteta finished 8th in his first two seasons and won a FA Cup but did arsenal sack him no an I didnât see the same energy for him⊠it takes time to build a team Manchester united havenât been good for years itâs gonna take years to fix it weâve sacked too many managers because of so many different mistakes made by the club give him time are else weâll be in the same position again in the next couple of years. But you guys donât care about that all you worry about is to push negative energy just because you donât like the manager
United squad is no stronger than spurs squad so winning the fa cup with arsenal and Liverpool, city is most definitely over achiveing look at the squad not the team crest
Players such as the lazy Rashford will get any manager the NINE TEN JACK.
Danny Murphy saying ten hag is cause of United going backwards is a ridiculous take. Bang average footballer with a shocking opinion. Uniteds highest win rate of any manager. 3 finals in 2 years in a club with zero structure. The problem ten hag has is he doesnât have a squad of his own players. Players still there from van gaals era. Mourinho wanted rid of shaw, martial and rashford and it was rejected and ultimately he failed because he couldnât be backed. Ten hag IN! Clear the dressing room of the poor mentality and start that wity rashford to make a massive statement that nobody is bigger than the club!
Sorry pal, Murphy is right. You are seriously deluded. Not a chance ETH stays.
He hasnât got a better win ratio than either Fergie or Mourinho. His loss ratio is worse than Fergie, Mourinho, Ole and Van Gaal. Heâs a deluded fraud who has no clue whatsoever. He won the title in a 3rd rate competition with the biggest and best club in Holland. The pillock has no idea how to build a team and he doesnât believe in midfield! Why do you think we get outplayed every week?! Open your eyes!!
@@Draper99 education goes a long way. Erik ten hag 60.8% win rate. Ferguson 59.7%. Mourinho 58.3%. Neither ferguson or mourinho dealt with this level of injuries. Erik ten hag over achieved last season with that pathetic squad, this year the cracks have shown. Another year under a proper structure is needed. Who replaces ten hag? Because the available managers out there are a massive step down. Tuchel, amorim, de zerbi all a massive step down. Ten hags had the sancho, ronaldo and rashford situations to deal with. A incompetent board of idiots to deal with. Give the man a proper structure like he had at Ajax and buy players that suit a possession style and he can finally play his style of play. Clear out of players is needed before changing any manager.
@@Draper99 David Moyes has a better win ratio than van gaal. Honestly educate yourself before you make yourself a complete prat spurting nonsense with a lack of facts online. Ten hag has the best win ratio of any Manchester United manager, doing so with an incompetent board and injury crisis.
Danny talks a lot of senseâŠ
What you guys believe and thatâs gonna happen are 2 entirely diff thing. CEO and DOF decide hat faith but a CZcamsr.
Simon you forget what he the manager has had to deal with this year and he needs to clear the dead wood.Give him some breathing spaceâŠ.admittedly has been found out at times.
Why is "BELIEVE" in capitals there...?
Moronic headline writing.
I wouldn't disagree with any of that but I think his level of English isn't up to standard and that shows in his interviews
Danny Murphy is talking nonsense. He didnt walk blindly into the role, Ralf Ragnik handed him a report from his term there. These things can take time guys and progression may not always be linear. leave him to continue the job one more year.
Utd need an Ancelotti
Ancelotti would struggle with these players
@@mikeyL575 I meant heâd be able to boss the club and fix whatever needs to be fixed.
Much as I like ETH every time I hear him speak gobblygook during a press conference I then ponder how he coaches and briefs players. Yes I appreciate English is not his first language but he never inspires me as a fan and I donât think he can inspire lazy, spoilt, overpaid and arrogant players.
the sooner the better.
eth and those under performing players were paid MILLIONS ÂŁ, RESULTS SUCKS!!! THEY HAVE TO GO!!!
Comon' Sheffield!!!
DANNY MURPHY IS BIAS AS EVERY ONE KNOWS ,
The only unbiased pundit throughout Talksports is Jim White..
He's always spitting facts and not judgemental
Heâs very good at playing devils advocate to generate conversation
That's his job, to be the fence sitter and everyone else in the room is in there for bias opinions to create arguments with one man in the middle adjudicating
Chelsea lose 5 0 and not a word about it. United always main news. Always. The amount of injuries united have had. Are ye blind??? 3 Cup finals in 15 months. Witch-hunt needs to stop. Ten hag is the man .
Bring in Conte
Lmao he's fallen out with every chairman he's ever had
Just no
I agree bring in Antonio Conte a serial winner who doesn't put up with BS. Has a firm hand with his players and would turn man u into contenders
@@shamadam1 serial winner? What did he do at Tottenham?
@@Timekeeper1200 he spent 13 months at Tottenham and qualified them in his first season for the UCl. Prior to spurs who nobody can win anything with, he won with Chelsea Prem title and f a cup in 2 seasons, won 6 Serie A titles with Juve and 3 Coppa italias, won Serie title and Copa Italia with inter after they had a 9 yr drought. So he is a serial winner . Jose Mourinho won nothing at spurs but is still a serial winner