Nah, coz that would've meant that they'd still actually have to put in some actual fucking effort and _MAKE SOMETHING!_ The Overwatch devs don't want to put any effort in, they just want to pump out another colour-swapped skin and charge you $25
For $250 US, you can get: • Almost 140 taco bell tacos • Markiplier's tactical shovel, with about $40 left over • A llama, from a llama rental at $150/hr • 4 copies of Luigi's Mansion 3 • Two pairs of eight inch heeled thigh-high vegan leather stripper boots • A rentable boyfriend for about 3 hours in Japan • A literal opal necklace from Kohls • 16 pairs of Hanes ecosmart sweatpants • a puppy
bro 250 is not an ungodly amount of money, its jusy unreasonable for a videogame, let alone one that's free-to-play. this isn't "spend bill gates money"
@@blinkerz4676 I never said it was bill gates' money. I looked up what you could buy for $250 instead of a game DLC. I'd personally really rather rent the llama.
Just comparing it to other video games is enough to make it ridiculous tbh. For $250 you can buy all the Dark Souls games with their DLCs, Elden Ring, _and_ Hollow Knight and you would _still_ have $10 left over. And that's full release price with no discounts of course.
I love how the developer, Nikita, gets on a podcast with Pestily and says his plan for the future of tarkov not including any pay to win elements and keeping it all purely as cosmetics and whatnot and not even 2 weeks later rolls out this crock of dogwater.
Thats on you for trusting anything any game dev or company says, they are not your friends they are mouth pieces that will say anything to sell more copys YES that includes the ones you like too none are exempt
@@noctotainlowry9246 No you walking pile of frozen toilet water. It’s not on us for “trusting” game developers. We’re holding them responsible for lying to us, because unlike you, we want to actively change this shitty business practice by actively pointing out the hypocrisy. How stupid does someone have to be to think they are superior for not only shitting on people in the right but also assuming you’re somehow in the right while actively fighting against the good side.
a cat for 100 Dollars? Damn thats cheap... the two dogs that my mom own cost over 1K Euros each. Important Note: Some people dont know that you can buy specific breeds and such that cost more than adopting a cat or a dog. Reasons for those may vary but a main factor may be childhood related events or just there not being a animal shelter in town. Prices of such adoption may also be expensive atleast in germany since alot of brainrotted owners dont clean their dogs shit so normal owners also get taxed for that.
im about to look way too much into a simple joke charlie said this because what this game company did was charge ridiculous prices for a game, without thinking about how it would destroy the business mr krabs keeps his patties cheap because thats how he makes money, he wouldnt make them expensive because he knows that would ruin his business, thus, mr krabs wouldnt pull something like this he sold spongebobs soul for 62 cents, but that was a very different situation, still hilariously exaggerated greed, but it was in no way a business decision on mr krabs part
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the worst part is, this sets a precedent for other game companies. AAA games have gone up $60 to $70, so now that a DLC has gone for $250, ultimate editions of games are gonna probably be more expensive
EFT has always had a high price range, its not like they have been selling the game for 30 bucks and all of a sudden released this 250 dollar bundle. (I went to their site to confirm and saw that they even upped the base, lowest price to play the game to $50. When I first bought the game, it was $40...) They have always been greedy, I'm more surprised at the fact that they haven't gotten flak for it much sooner. Them not getting criticism is probably the reason they thought this shit would fly with the community.
@@deftomnivore215 i bought it for 60 i think, and my dad was iffy with that, but i didn’t think about it much. I don’t mind the price since it is a really good game, but $250 is outrageous
I'm a lead dev for a small indie game studio that has a small live service game. This is the worst attempt at overblown monetization for a game expansion that I've seen this year. There is no game DLC or expansion that is worth 250$. I feel badly for the community manager here, they're going to be used as a scape goat. It's higher up management that have made this call and so the community manager can either defend it and keep their job or call it out as what it is and lose their job, they don't really have a choice or a say. To put it simply, your players are never stupid. If they like your game enough they'll buy into many things, but any promise you made to your players at any point you will be expected to keep. It takes 1 misstep, 1 wrong thing said, or 1 poorly thought out plan executed to completely and permanently destroy any level of trust your players had and cause them to leave the community without second chance. If you as a developer or staff member for the studio are having to sit there and make excuses for something, or try to place specific labels onto things to try to make your community separate it, the people you are trying to convince will catch on to what you're trying to do and they'll no longer trust your word. I know first hand that maintaining that trust and relationship with your community is never an easy task and requires a lot of sacrifice on your part that they will never see or understand and it will likely go forever unsaid and unacknowledged, but that's something that comes with the territory if you want a loyal customer base. The game studios that are highly acclaimed and have loyal supporters are in that position because they genuinely care about keeping their word and they demonstrate this by consistently delivering upon it.
@@p.m.s2603 Privacy. We're a much smaller community compared to EFT and our demographic is mainly young children-young teens who we place great emphasis on ensuring the safety of. I mention it only because it serves as a point of reference for my level of personal experience in game development, management of game development and community management which is the basis for everything that I was saying in the rest of my comment. I also believe it's not the appropriate place or time to advertise something.
I'm pretty sure that if the whole "buy edge of darkness you get all future DLCs for free" was in the actual marketing, this counts as breach of contract with the public
Yeah- They wont be releasing any DLCs hehe- Though they didnt need to include that statement- atleast say first DLC free- rest as normal or discounted... they would make more money as discounted priced wrongful marketing
Every single person that would say, “$70 isn’t that bad, and it’s completely reasonable for a AAA game. I love the billion dollar company more than my fellow man” is at fault for this.
@@sporeham1674 genuinely, I only just moved to pc EOD didn’t exist when I bought it 2 months ago but I still paid $89 for standard and was enjoying it enough to spend another $80 for the highest version, plus bought slots for another $50 so with this, bloody $500 video game is ridiculous
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We comparing one greedy company to another?😂scumniac wants to milk the third Spiderman game so hard they want to make it cost absurd amounts and be 2 parts
I love how the argument of it not being dlc is that the pve mode is a separate game. Yet they completely ignore the added stash size, the extra pockets, the increased skill levels, the add trader rep. All of which is dlc.
Best alternatives for tarkov : -Hunt Showdown -Vigor -Deep Rock Galactic (PvE) -Marauders -Dark and Darker Have fun , personally i can recommend : Vigor , Deep Rock Galactic and Hunt Showdown !!!
@@ghost942 I don't think he's being a dumbass. Mods are indeed Downloadable Content hence why he said DLC. It's just that nowadays "DLC" is used as a blanket term to official additional content.
@@ghost942the only thing that makes mods not downloadable content is the fact they aren't made by the original devs. bc mods are downloadable content, it's just DLC usually refers to downloadable content from the devs
@BubbleGum566 he was litterly insisting that mods are dlcs, and it is only a mod if it "modifies original game content" and "dlcs are any thing that adds alot to the game"
Not a 100 dollars 150 dollars. And almost all of us who got into tarkov, eventually ended up buying to support the game. And BSG have scammed us. Literally committing crimes. This shit is fucking wild.
My biggest complaint about this whole thing is that when I first bought the game their roadmap said they planned on putting a singleplayer/co-op campaign in the game from the start. Now they are taking that and trying to sell it as a new feature.
as someone who bought EOD maybe 4-5 year ago now, as someone who has played tarkov thru multiple gameplay altering changes and unplayable bugs, this is truly the nail in the coffin for BSG. their PR team cannot pull them out of this one.
The best part was them being caught on livestream editing the EoD store page information to try and fit their narrative. AND THEN in an interview deny editing the page at all.
@@otamatonefan8996look up onepeg his eft news segments covered it I believe. It’s definitely true tho, they forgot to change the web receipts for EoD, you could easily cross check it
The worst part about these greedy game companies is that countries with currency worth less than US money have to pay way more. Im in Australia and this would cost around $375 which is insane
The best is that Tarkov has free unofficial, community made "DLC" -> SPT-AKI, which let s you play Tarkov offline. I personally switched, because the cheater situation was not great on the live server.
It's a complete betrayal of trust and an abhorrent display of greed. Unbelievable how they blatantly ignored their original promise to EOD buyers. Everything about this situation is shameful and disgraceful to the gaming industry.
I remember saying how shady they are 4-5 years ago and the community blasted me for it. They are doing everything they can to squeeze every penny out of the community before the game dies. They know the games dying and they can’t save it so they just wanna cash out before then.
@@brennancondon3357That’s how gamers are bro. They always ride the extreme no matter which side it is. They’re either sucking dev dick or burning them at the stake, pretending like they knew it was bad all along.
And the PVE is still dogshit because BSG didn't seperate the PVE servers from PVP. So technically it can happen that you have loading times of over 10 minutes .. for a fucking PVE game lul
As a member of the EFT community and a EOD owner, I felt slapped in the face by this greedy move. It’s outrageous and unacceptable, I will be filing my formal complain and I’m hoping a class action lawsuit is being worked on by the community.
This. The game's still in beta. You'd assume any features and game modes added before 1.0 release would be considered part of the base game, not even DLC. By all current standards in game development, TECHNICALLY the base, $50 game owners should have access to it, as the game's still in development.
@@Scarlattomachiattoit's actually about 80%, minimum wage is still below 10$ in a lot of areas in the US. That's also not considering taxes. I think I make roughly 660$ a week after taxes at 20$ an hour, so it's nearly half of my paycheck at more than double minimum wage
@@mentalpopcorn2304 That's fair, I was going off of a 10$/hour payrate bc some states are higher than others and not thinking of taxes. Which is actually worse! Bc that 250$ price will also be taxed which fluctuates depending on states. Man, fuck this company.
It smacks of "structurally fiscal disconnect" when fans see entertainment management sees money and mgmt do not have the faintest idea how to connect the two
As someone who never played the game and never will, even I am just baffled and mad by the blatant disrespect of that pricetag. wth were they thinking honestly...
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I'm fully convinced that these executives making these decisions are secretly being mind-controlled by rival companies because absolutely no one could have failed to see this going south.
@itsjustmaddisen while I don't agree. I think it's better watching it in real life such as we are. (I personally hate Tarkov so I've been waiting for this for so long)
I have to say right now, the only reason that DLC exists (In my opinion) is to either A). expand on existing content with new missions and what not and that builds off of existing mechanics. B). To give the player a new experience that add new mechanics for a fresh take on the game.
Somewhere at some point a person had to unironically say "Yea a quarter of a thousand dollars is a reasonable amount to ask for a PVE Co-Op mode." and it was met with approval from the room. Talk about blinded by greed or completely disconnected from reality.
@@kingcannabis4208 but is that fair to the hoop manufacturer since you're not continuing to pay going forward? Think of their shareholders you monster.
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I feel like even "Psychotic" is too nice of a term for this level of greed. It's like Joker's "I'm crazy, not stupid" quote. I can imagine even some psychopaths that still organs and sell them back to people would be like "That's fucking dumb."
@@connerthewubbzler1062no, not psychotic. Take EA, Ubisoft, and Activision’s greedy tendencies and combine them into one. Obviously, NO ONE is dropping 250 on Tarkov.
man im 25 and remeber watching your videos on the the web browser games whered you make fun of them while playing mustve been 13 years ago just subbed thank you
One thing that is not being talked about enough. BSG Updated their TOS in February 2024, which removed a clause that would allow for customers to pursue a refund in the event the game did not receive an official launch. This tells me that they were prepared that this might tank the game completely, and wanted an escape plan.
The writing has been on the wall for a while if you take a step back and look at it objectively. A couple CZcamsrs have done deep dives on their finances and they make terrible monetary decisions like arena and big extravagant events and I think they were really banking on arena being wildly popular and bring in a bunch of players and then they could slowly dribble in micro transactions ( which is something Nikita has said multiple times would never happen) their gamble failed miserably and this might be the final nail in the coffin if they don’t make it free for EoD players and drop that price by at least 100-150$. This might be their final cash grab before they abandon the project for good.
@@brettsteuart if they had a stronger hand in anti cheat and straight up banning people, arena could've been better, plus the PVE can EASILY bring back many people. But no, they didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they took a goddamn grenade launcher to it.
Just because they removed that from their TOS doesn't effect anyone who agreed to it when the verbiage was in the TOS when they purchased the game. If they attempt to enforce that change on legacy players then they are acting in bad faith and open themselves up for even more litigation. Either way, I think we just witnessed the fastest self implosion from a company ever.
Frontier development did exactly the same thing for elite dangerous. The life time pass only includes the first 3 (ish) dlc (this was then turned to the core game a few years later). Before cutting the console community our of the game completely. Many of us were actually backers for the game when it was crowd funded originally.
@Mitozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz saddest part is this last wipe was one of the best updates ever. Fixed recoil, reworked armor, reworked balancing. Everything was getting to a good spot just for them to shit all over it
Just yesterday I was reading an interview with one of the main EFT developer (Nikita Buyanov), and he said the game wouldn’t have micro transactions… Turns out they wanted to add macro transactions
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181 Let’s not get racial here. I just find it hilarious, considering the fact he is connected with some russian military groups and considers himself an honest and loyal person
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181True! Hell, the entire Russo-Ukraine war they've been lying. If you want a more comprehensive uh.. "list" of their lies I'd implore you to look up Habitual Linecrosser.
I once purchased EFT, and played it minimally and had fun while doing so, after being offline and not playing for 2-3 weeks i got banned without explanation and after contacting support i was denied a explanation of being banned and any further messages sent to the support were ignored, so I'm never buying Escape from Tarkov ever again, got absolutely scammed
To add insult to injury, the PVE mode added to the unheard edition has queue times for a SINGLE PLAYER MODE that can be upwards of 5 minutes and you can "lose" connection mid raid and lose all your gear! Its truly pathetic behaviour and the game mode isn't even worth the absolute destruction of their companies reputation.
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
Glad you did a main channel video on this. As an EOD owner with about 2500 hours in this shit is a slap in the face. All my buddies have EOD to play and this type of decision will drive away normal and casual players alike. This game is already really difficult and now making it borderline p2w is egregious
The CEO at a studio I worked at for awhile would pull us into a meeting to pitch ideas at us - specifically my team, the Community-facing team - to see how we thought players would react to certain things. We'd tell him they'd absolutely hate an idea, it was bad for the game, etc. He'd just shrug and start assigning tasks to people. Zero doubt in my mind someone high up is single-handedly orchestrating most of this and doubling down because of his over-inflated ego.
honestly as fucked as it is i gaurantee you nikita is making all of these decisions, he hasnt known what the fuck they are trying to with tarkov for awhile now it feels like. he would be the higher up person thats doing this. they are just ruining their game to try to get money at this point
@@NickDaGamer1998 Just the one - he started it. But don't worry, thanks to a massively botched release, the studio now lives in infamy within certain circles. 😏
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They could literally add a t shirt for you're PMC and the community would gobble it up hello know guys who buy a fucking patch their character could wear. Then they pull this
I started playing Tarkov after a couple of years and got so sick of it that I started to just use SPT and my experience was wonderful. The problem with the game is not because of the game itself, rather because of the hacker problems plaguing the game for a impressive amount of time honestly, and Nikita's stupid decisions one after the next.
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You shouldn't be there anyway, nobody should be playing this game, the devs are in bed with the Russian military and paramilitary groups operating in Ukraine
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
@@silberlung3440 you do realize this is an MMO right? One with very little recurring purchases. So if this is how they initially monetize access to that PvE server that’s on them. They can’t make it free to everyone who already owns the game, they can’t afford that. Eventually at some point when Nikita realizes Russia 2028 will have to get renamed before he gets to work on it he’ll consolidate that into a single player expansion for tarkov. Probably a little bit after the full game is out and you can buy the exclusive single player edition for like 40 dollars. Financing a game like this is rough, BSG have a lot on their plate.
12:47 The priority queue is the least pay to win thing about this. Here’s a run down for those that haven’t played tarkov : - Traders have a limited stock of items. Buying limits are there to prevent people from panic buying certain items, especially certain meta items. EOD players will be more able to buy out certain items while non EOD players will be left in the dust. - Items that are crafted in hideout can be sold on the flea market; depending on the item, this could create a wealth gap between EOD players who produce the item as an easy source of income and non EOD players who have to buy that item from EOD players. - The increased pocket size allows people to carry more and bigger items. In particular it means they can go in raid without a rig and still be able to carry 1x2 magazines for the bigger more powerful guns.
@@MachineGunJoepwns It goes further than that. That's the most expensive ship in the BASIC tab. After you spend 1000$, and then I think 10 000$, you get access to previously hidden tabs with more expensive ships and ship bundles - most expensive being at 40 000$. It's bonkers.
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Been playing EFT for a few years now. Bought EOD about 2 years into playing the game excited for future content to come that had been talked about. Seeing this happen, broke my reputation with the company dumbfoundly.
i think a huge part of gaming is the fact you used to be able to have an old laptop and play for free and it only cost you your time , internet bill and electricity bill but it was pretty much free , now a hobby you have wanted to do is more affordable
I agree. Gaming is meant to be for everyone. Rich, poor, old, young etc. And anyway, if you price your DLC at $250 the player base is going to be so small it will die within days…
I could unironically buy passes to a bowling alley for not only me but for 2 other people and we could go daily and play games and bowl every single day if we wanted to for the same price as it is for me to upgrade my eft from eod to the unhinged edition
We've got our monkey brains and the younger generations to thank for this. The mobile market validated the practice of dlc and microtransactions and now younger gamers are seeing it as completely normal to spend 100s to 1000s on skins, items and extra modes.
I have 2 friends that bought the EOD years ago. They loved the game and played it daily. One day i asked the contents of the edition and they told me about the stash and other stuff. I told them it sounded a bit p2w but they gave it a pass because they would get all DLC for "free"; i warned them that i had a feeling the devs would have made a big mistake soon or later, this is because i didn't like the devs at first sight when i watched a stream with my friends. Now comes this new version, they tried to defend it (that suprised me, like two addicts they couldn't see it was awful) but after talking with them they understood that they basically got lied to. Now they modded the game and only play with single player mods and hate the devs.
@@GmmBeast He went back on it too fast to know(SQUIDWARD called him out), which says something. Also Spongeboy me bob annoyed his new owner so much and so fast he gave him back almost immediately.
All I want is for Cycle Frontier to come back. My sweet child is gone and I will never be the same. EFT died for me a while ago when they couldnt get audio working slightly well.
That's crazy, with all the backlash they could of easily done this. "Oh sorry it was suppose to be $25 dollars, for any who may have bought it at the 250 price tag you will be refunded and as a show of good faith we'd like to give everyone the chance to try the new DLC over the weekend/Week" And then for those who did get the lifetime for DLC, just give it to them and thank them for their support. Yet they choose to double down on it, that's crazy.
Did you know that: You can fund yourself and three friends the full version of the game Helldivers 2 with the DLC Super Citizen ($59.99 x4) AND STILL HAVE $10 in reserve in the same price you get one DLC for Escape From Tarkov ($250)
No. The eod edition is $150 and the dlc is another $100. The base game is like $60 bucks and has access to everything of eod except stash bonuses and rep. If you buy eod for $100 you are also getting arenas.
What's really crazy is they announced they were taking EOD down for good, "so you better hurry up and grab it because this will be your last chance to get this edition". How many people ran out and bought EOD before it went down? I'm sure a LOT! Then they put this edition out afterwards and said nothing before taking down EOD about a newer edition coming right? Damn son
This is becoming a very common tactic in many places. There are bands that toured "for the last time" only to come back 4 years later. Just to squeeze every penny form you they can
I paid my car 300 Opel cadet 1.6 got it with 150K km in great condition with no rust and they expect me to pay 250 for a game DLC that is not even that good
@@Jules279nah bc the cod devs actually listen to the community outside of iw and it’s not even close to same as last year it’s not even comparable what tarkov is doing
At least $70 while overpriced af is still close to the usual price of AAA games. $250 is just outlandish. I'm pretty sure you could get nintendo switch for that.
but mw3 wasnt a "dlc" yes it was technically but for the content it had just at launch made it more than a whole new other game from mw2, eft pve on the other hand is a new "game mode" in tarkov and it doesnt even feature anything new either youre just basically only playing vs scavs only instead of scavs and other pmcs
My husband has been playing escape from tarkov for as long as we've been together. He's poured almost 8 years into this game, got EOD before we were married, and genuinely poured more time into this game than any other games he's ever played. I've sat and watched him play for countless hours while he told me about different armors and weapons. It is a game that even me, who never played it, held dear because my husband loved it so much. Even after our son was born, he would wear him in a carrier and whisper to him about the game as he played. So many fun nights and sweet memories, and BSG is just shitting on its loyal players. We're having our second boy in 3 months, we can't drop $250 on video games anymore, and especially after my husband got EOD and expected this DLC for free. Nikita is just shitting down his fans throats and expecting them to take it.
I can't shake the feeling that the company somehow got pressured into this decision. Also the fact that BSG is not even trying to negotiate with the community... I put a lot of time into this game and I always thought that they had an initimate relation with the streamers and players... this shocks me
Hey Charlie, I'm a long-time Tarkov player (over 8000) hours logged, and someone who built my entire PC rig back in 2020 when I could finally afford it purely for this game. I'm a longtime Tarkov player, am in several of their discords, and have in depth knowledge on not only the game, but the community surrounding it in all aspects. This is the only game I have reliably played outside of their other "DLC" EFT: Arena. If you were to put even more heat on this it would be so appreciated, and I know from several of the pillars of the community I'm a part of (over 15+ EFT exclusive discords) we'd love to hop in a call with you and go over the smaller things you may have missed to blow this up even more. Thanks Charlie. Sincerely, ThePerplexedRat
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You should email charlie instead because then it's guaranteed he'll at least see what you said even if he turns you down. He probably won't see this comment.
Talk about a PR disaster, at the very least with the amount of backlash they have received they should at a minimum offer the new mode separately at a substantial reduced cost. Corporations are inherently greedy, but when you have a PR disaster like this you don’t double down on that greed that’s how you lose even the most loyal customers.
@@Mr.DISRESPECT the 250 is a high prize, if u have the money idc if u buy it, but im owner of EOD and they practically lied to all of us, so yeah, idc about the price cuz im not gonna buy it
OW2 devs sweating realizing they could've just sold PVE for 250 bucks instead of canceling it
They just didn't have the balls for it
@@frostery1483 I can imagine they were on the fence about it tho, Lol.
Nah, coz that would've meant that they'd still actually have to put in some actual fucking effort and _MAKE SOMETHING!_ The Overwatch devs don't want to put any effort in, they just want to pump out another colour-swapped skin and charge you $25
@@BadgerOff32 Bobby said it wasnt good enough.
Blizcon got cancelled again!
They took advice from the guy who wanted to have players pay $1 to reload their guns.
Ah yes, EA. The icon of greed.
Did somebody really say that?
@@billbombshiggy9254pretty sure one of the old ea Bosses said that 😭
@@AsianLing for what game? I'm legit curious as to who the idiot was. That's beyond stupid.
@@billbombshiggy9254 Former EA boss and Unity guy.
For $250 US, you can get:
• Almost 140 taco bell tacos
• Markiplier's tactical shovel, with about $40 left over
• A llama, from a llama rental at $150/hr
• 4 copies of Luigi's Mansion 3
• Two pairs of eight inch heeled thigh-high vegan leather stripper boots
• A rentable boyfriend for about 3 hours in Japan
• A literal opal necklace from Kohls
• 16 pairs of Hanes ecosmart sweatpants
• a puppy
bro 250 is not an ungodly amount of money, its jusy unreasonable for a videogame, let alone one that's free-to-play.
this isn't "spend bill gates money"
@@blinkerz4676 I never said it was bill gates' money. I looked up what you could buy for $250 instead of a game DLC. I'd personally really rather rent the llama.
Just comparing it to other video games is enough to make it ridiculous tbh.
For $250 you can buy all the Dark Souls games with their DLCs, Elden Ring, _and_ Hollow Knight and you would _still_ have $10 left over. And that's full release price with no discounts of course.
@@DoubLL But the llama rental tho.
Now i want a llama
I love how the developer, Nikita, gets on a podcast with Pestily and says his plan for the future of tarkov not including any pay to win elements and keeping it all purely as cosmetics and whatnot and not even 2 weeks later rolls out this crock of dogwater.
Or how he was trying to sue people making offline modes for Tarkov because it didn’t fit the game, then turns around and sells pve for $250
He got cocky because he saw the traction extraction shooters have been getting.
Thats on you for trusting anything any game dev or company says, they are not your friends they are mouth pieces that will say anything to sell more copys YES that includes the ones you like too none are exempt
@@noctotainlowry9246 based
@@noctotainlowry9246 No you walking pile of frozen toilet water.
It’s not on us for “trusting” game developers. We’re holding them responsible for lying to us, because unlike you, we want to actively change this shitty business practice by actively pointing out the hypocrisy.
How stupid does someone have to be to think they are superior for not only shitting on people in the right but also assuming you’re somehow in the right while actively fighting against the good side.
Ive bought entire handguns for less than $250. My cat, an actual living being, was $100. Thats an insane price.
So i can get 2 cats???
EOD was $140 when not on sale
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
@@Lolimoan2 and a half cats actually
a cat for 100 Dollars? Damn thats cheap... the two dogs that my mom own cost over 1K Euros each.
Important Note: Some people dont know that you can buy specific breeds and such that cost more than adopting a cat or a dog. Reasons for those may vary but a main factor may be childhood related events or just there not being a animal shelter in town. Prices of such adoption may also be expensive atleast in germany since alot of brainrotted owners dont clean their dogs shit so normal owners also get taxed for that.
"I don't think mr Krabs would pull some shit like this"
He sold Spongebob's soul for 62 cents
im about to look way too much into a simple joke
charlie said this because what this game company did was charge ridiculous prices for a game, without thinking about how it would destroy the business
mr krabs keeps his patties cheap because thats how he makes money, he wouldnt make them expensive because he knows that would ruin his business, thus, mr krabs wouldnt pull something like this
he sold spongebobs soul for 62 cents, but that was a very different situation, still hilariously exaggerated greed, but it was in no way a business decision on mr krabs part
@@BlaketheBlock I highly respect this explanation.
@@BlaketheBlockMr krabs raised the prices of his krabbie patties before
@@sodahey7517 cause he knew king neptune was coming. a king can afford those prices
Gotta do what you gotta do to get that Ketamine
*me when im in a commit the ultimate sin of greed competition and my opponent is video game companies*
Gaijin Entertainment
Mobile game companies
EA
Blizzard: we're going to destroy our game worse than anyone else in history
BSG: hold our vodka
Hold my beer, it's a psyop paid by Blizzard to take the flak off of them
I love corporations destroying the affordability of the video game industry
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 nerd
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
Eventually the consumer will be priced out of the market. The logical end to the capitalist mode.
I've been on the fence with Tarkov for awhile now. I thought to myself, "this game is missing a $250 DLC, that would sell me."
Yeah I’ve been considering buying EFT for ages. Now I’m considering Grey Zone Warfare 😂😂😂
250 is too expensive! 300 would be more affordable.
Bruh. Didn't you watch the video? It's not a DLC.
@vengefulspirit99 Oh so it not content for the game that can be downloaded?
@@smeauxk well yes, but actually no. It’s DLG (downloadable game-mode). Not covered by the EOD edition so cough up your doubloons rn
the fact that people would be insanely suprised if EA tried to get this much for a game or dlc shows how much money it truely is
EA be like "So we know you hated that $250 DLC, so here's our $249.99 DLC"
"Unheard" edition is ironically the best name they could've come up with
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..😂
Unhinged Edition
thats so true lmao
because unheard of prices lmao
The Unheard Community
Companies are becoming TOO greedy, period.
You know it's bad when even the gamers are getting radicalized
250 dollars? That better mean a an included dlc the size of an actual game once every year that is at least 7/10 decent.
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..
Meanwhile the sky is blue, and the lake is full of water.
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
the worst part is, this sets a precedent for other game companies. AAA games have gone up $60 to $70, so now that a DLC has gone for $250, ultimate editions of games are gonna probably be more expensive
To make it even more crazier is the fact that escape from tarkov isn't a AAA game
@@BeansLive567 True but I mean, it is one of if not the more realistic and high end games that I’ve ever played, and extremely detailed.
EFT has always had a high price range, its not like they have been selling the game for 30 bucks and all of a sudden released this 250 dollar bundle. (I went to their site to confirm and saw that they even upped the base, lowest price to play the game to $50. When I first bought the game, it was $40...)
They have always been greedy, I'm more surprised at the fact that they haven't gotten flak for it much sooner. Them not getting criticism is probably the reason they thought this shit would fly with the community.
@@deftomnivore215 i bought it for 60 i think, and my dad was iffy with that, but i didn’t think about it much. I don’t mind the price since it is a really good game, but $250 is outrageous
It would only set a precedent if it was successful
I'm a lead dev for a small indie game studio that has a small live service game. This is the worst attempt at overblown monetization for a game expansion that I've seen this year.
There is no game DLC or expansion that is worth 250$. I feel badly for the community manager here, they're going to be used as a scape goat. It's higher up management that have made this call and so the community manager can either defend it and keep their job or call it out as what it is and lose their job, they don't really have a choice or a say.
To put it simply, your players are never stupid. If they like your game enough they'll buy into many things, but any promise you made to your players at any point you will be expected to keep. It takes 1 misstep, 1 wrong thing said, or 1 poorly thought out plan executed to completely and permanently destroy any level of trust your players had and cause them to leave the community without second chance. If you as a developer or staff member for the studio are having to sit there and make excuses for something, or try to place specific labels onto things to try to make your community separate it, the people you are trying to convince will catch on to what you're trying to do and they'll no longer trust your word.
I know first hand that maintaining that trust and relationship with your community is never an easy task and requires a lot of sacrifice on your part that they will never see or understand and it will likely go forever unsaid and unacknowledged, but that's something that comes with the territory if you want a loyal customer base. The game studios that are highly acclaimed and have loyal supporters are in that position because they genuinely care about keeping their word and they demonstrate this by consistently delivering upon it.
Hey yo. Lemme buy your game instead of tarkov.
what game are you developing?
How can you not even mention the title?
@@pavelgabrielioan Open world roleplay game revolving around crime/first responders.
@@p.m.s2603 Privacy. We're a much smaller community compared to EFT and our demographic is mainly young children-young teens who we place great emphasis on ensuring the safety of. I mention it only because it serves as a point of reference for my level of personal experience in game development, management of game development and community management which is the basis for everything that I was saying in the rest of my comment.
I also believe it's not the appropriate place or time to advertise something.
I'm pretty sure that if the whole "buy edge of darkness you get all future DLCs for free" was in the actual marketing, this counts as breach of contract with the public
I bought eod. It was promised as a season pass for all future DLC.
Battlestate said "erm actually this is a GAMEMODE not a dlc buddy" and then only semi-backtracked after 3 billion downvotes
@Carbine64 which doesn't even make sense, dlcs and gamemodes aren't mutually exclusive
Yeah- They wont be releasing any DLCs hehe-
Though they didnt need to include that statement- atleast say first DLC free- rest as normal or discounted... they would make more money as discounted priced
wrongful marketing
@@Top_Timmyget ya money back 😤
"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" has never applied more to a situation.
Was a big fan of "brought piss to a poop fight" lol
@@danielferreira3573 wait what? haha
“Don’t rain on my parade and tell me God’s pissing”
I’m pooping
@@organicleaf it was a line he said in this video lol
Fittingly called the “unheard edition” as that pricing is most definitely unheard of
Every single person that would say, “$70 isn’t that bad, and it’s completely reasonable for a AAA game. I love the billion dollar company more than my fellow man” is at fault for this.
$390 for people in Australia, disgrace absolute disgrace.
I've bought consoles for less oh my god
That’s over an entire month of groceries plus 1 or 2 good indie games for me 😂
@@sporeham1674 genuinely, I only just moved to pc EOD didn’t exist when I bought it 2 months ago but I still paid $89 for standard and was enjoying it enough to spend another $80 for the highest version, plus bought slots for another $50 so with this, bloody $500 video game is ridiculous
solution: don’t live in australia
@@sunfish9341no solution is don’t buy from shitty developers
They make EA look like Insomniac Games
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
We comparing one greedy company to another?😂scumniac wants to milk the third Spiderman game so hard they want to make it cost absurd amounts and be 2 parts
If you have to get compared TO MOTHERFUCKING EA
YOU DIN FUCKED UP SO FUCKING BAD
I love how the argument of it not being dlc is that the pve mode is a separate game. Yet they completely ignore the added stash size, the extra pockets, the increased skill levels, the add trader rep. All of which is dlc.
P2W is nothing new, but locking a gamemode behind a 250$ edition is ABSOLUTELY INSANE
$250 for PART of a game is beyond ridiculous. You can get a Nintendo Switch some places for that price, holy shit.
You could easily buy about 8 (good) indie games for that price…
@@GravitasZeromore than 8
or 4 brand new AAA where i live. actually a joke
$250 for a beta
it is actually not, if you got the EOD edition its "only" 100€. still extremely much but hey
"guys its not dlc, its a new feature and the rest of the game you already paid for." Great optics.
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1 Crazy how nobody cares 🤖
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
Goku: let's test that out shall we??
all im saying is i didnt have gamma now i do plus more pocket space. only dumb part is the pve feature isnt for sale without buying it all
fucking semantics amirite?
Game Company: screws over player base with PvE mode and unkept promises...
Team Fortress 2 Mercs:
**synchronized laughter**
Best alternatives for tarkov :
-Hunt Showdown
-Vigor
-Deep Rock Galactic (PvE)
-Marauders
-Dark and Darker
Have fun , personally i can recommend : Vigor , Deep Rock Galactic and Hunt Showdown !!!
DRG alternative for tarkov 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
A versus mode for DRG would be pretty cool
@@relikt582 more enjoyable , less shit devs so yes definetly a alternative
"it's not DLC, trust me, here's why"
*proceeds to define what a DLC is*
Yup, it reminds me of a dumbass who was trying to tell me mods for subnautica are actually dlcs cause you download them😅
I don't make better content than charlie and i respect him
@@ghost942
I don't think he's being a dumbass. Mods are indeed Downloadable Content hence why he said DLC. It's just that nowadays "DLC" is used as a blanket term to official additional content.
@@ghost942the only thing that makes mods not downloadable content is the fact they aren't made by the original devs. bc mods are downloadable content, it's just DLC usually refers to downloadable content from the devs
@BubbleGum566 he was litterly insisting that mods are dlcs, and it is only a mod if it "modifies original game content" and "dlcs are any thing that adds alot to the game"
Not a 100 dollars 150 dollars. And almost all of us who got into tarkov, eventually ended up buying to support the game. And BSG have scammed us. Literally committing crimes. This shit is fucking wild.
The "fucking wild" part is paying a developer who is in bed with the Russian military
@@CircusFoxxo hindsight is 2020 man i purchased it years before the war.
@@CircusFoxxowhat¿
@@CircusFoxxo source?
@@williamlux "escape from tarkov 715 group" Google it, CZcams deletes links
trailblazing is the best description, literally never thought sth like whis was possible without absolutely bancrupting the company
Im glad this bs is being talked about. The greed of these game companys make me feel sick the way they prey on their fanbase
"250 for a DLC?!"
"With PVE Mr.Squidward, With PVE"
🧽🧽🦑🦑🦑😆😆😆
😂😂😂
Ha!
Tarkov devs hate the fact the the players already went and made their own single player mod (there is also a coop mod for it)
Ayo where that at?
@@jesseharlan5700 SPT Aki ;-)
@@jesseharlan5700single player tarkov is called spt aki and the coop one is npt. Im not sure if its a mod to spt or what since i havent tried it
@@Tacman18 And if you don't want to use NPT, there's "Stay in Tarkov" as well. Both do the same thing.
Cant devs just make a better version even if there is a mod? They have better resources no?
My biggest complaint about this whole thing is that when I first bought the game their roadmap said they planned on putting a singleplayer/co-op campaign in the game from the start. Now they are taking that and trying to sell it as a new feature.
they are selling it as early access it will be in the game at launch for eod... so they claimed
as someone who bought EOD maybe 4-5 year ago now, as someone who has played tarkov thru multiple gameplay altering changes and unplayable bugs, this is truly the nail in the coffin for BSG. their PR team cannot pull them out of this one.
They should've announced this 27 days ago. 1 day before April 1st so they can claim fools if it went shit like it did.
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
@@Big.Aziza_not.tha_lil_1
Goku: how strong tho???
They're so strong that they don't even have a physical form because they're a bot
The best part was them being caught on livestream editing the EoD store page information to try and fit their narrative. AND THEN in an interview deny editing the page at all.
Any link to the source or some kind of pointer to a recording of it?
I want to see how careless this was.
@@otamatonefan8996 Same here.
that is illegal , and false advertisement anyone who bought it has the right to sue
@@otamatonefan8996The Tarkov streamer LVNDMARK got it. The clip was posted on the Tarkov reddit too
@@otamatonefan8996look up onepeg his eft news segments covered it I believe. It’s definitely true tho, they forgot to change the web receipts for EoD, you could easily cross check it
The worst part about these greedy game companies is that countries with currency worth less than US money have to pay way more. Im in Australia and this would cost around $375 which is insane
The best is that Tarkov has free unofficial, community made "DLC" -> SPT-AKI, which let s you play Tarkov offline. I personally switched, because the cheater situation was not great on the live server.
I paid for Edge of Darkness, but all I can do now is Edge in Darkness😞
It may not be the exact same thing as coop pve, but SPT Single player Tarkov is THE best alternative. Plus it's moddable
womp womp
Nice try. You were gonna do that anyway.
@@0013bluejayAgreed. Just go to SP tarkov.
@@IForgorAboutMay2007are you just going comment to comment saying "womp womp"?
It's a complete betrayal of trust and an abhorrent display of greed. Unbelievable how they blatantly ignored their original promise to EOD buyers. Everything about this situation is shameful and disgraceful to the gaming industry.
when you thought it couldn't sink any lower, these guys, hold my beer!!
thats on you for trusting russians
I remember saying how shady they are 4-5 years ago and the community blasted me for it. They are doing everything they can to squeeze every penny out of the community before the game dies. They know the games dying and they can’t save it so they just wanna cash out before then.
They’d skull f a puppy if it churned a nickel!
@@brennancondon3357That’s how gamers are bro. They always ride the extreme no matter which side it is. They’re either sucking dev dick or burning them at the stake, pretending like they knew it was bad all along.
This literally puts every monetized game and dlc to shame
I’ll never understand why people will pay these ridiculous prices for dlc. Like, I’d rather use that money to buy a new game. Or two, or four.
And the PVE is still dogshit because BSG didn't seperate the PVE servers from PVP. So technically it can happen that you have loading times of over 10 minutes .. for a fucking PVE game lul
As a member of the EFT community and a EOD owner, I felt slapped in the face by this greedy move. It’s outrageous and unacceptable, I will be filing my formal complain and I’m hoping a class action lawsuit is being worked on by the community.
Fuck, I don't even play EFT and I'm considering making a lawsuit.
Oh well get bent.
Same here man breaks ACL on so many levels
I love paying $150 for 6 months access to pve with my friends ❤❤❤❤
I don't play that game but I'm rooting for you guys to have a class action lawsuit for sure, this is crazy
“PvE is a feature and a game mode” is ironically the best argument for it being in the game at launch
Even if it's not available at launch and it something in the works for later, it should not cost half of a minimum wage worker's check!
This. The game's still in beta. You'd assume any features and game modes added before 1.0 release would be considered part of the base game, not even DLC. By all current standards in game development, TECHNICALLY the base, $50 game owners should have access to it, as the game's still in development.
@@Scarlattomachiattoit's actually about 80%, minimum wage is still below 10$ in a lot of areas in the US. That's also not considering taxes. I think I make roughly 660$ a week after taxes at 20$ an hour, so it's nearly half of my paycheck at more than double minimum wage
every game has it or more than 50% of games do, so calling it "unique" was beyond dumb asf.
@@mentalpopcorn2304 That's fair, I was going off of a 10$/hour payrate bc some states are higher than others and not thinking of taxes. Which is actually worse! Bc that 250$ price will also be taxed which fluctuates depending on states. Man, fuck this company.
It smacks of "structurally fiscal disconnect" when fans see entertainment management sees money and mgmt do not have the faintest idea how to connect the two
As someone who never played the game and never will, even I am just baffled and mad by the blatant disrespect of that pricetag. wth were they thinking honestly...
It’s been a wild ride the last 24 hours. Massive meltdown all caused by themselves.
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
@@PWRGEUTTP nerd
No you dont@@PWRGEUTTP
I'm fully convinced that these executives making these decisions are secretly being mind-controlled by rival companies because absolutely no one could have failed to see this going south.
yeah blame anyone but the greedy fucks right
That would be an awesome Black Mirror episode 😅
@itsjustmaddisen while I don't agree. I think it's better watching it in real life such as we are. (I personally hate Tarkov so I've been waiting for this for so long)
It’s not an executive. It’s Nikita.
I have to say right now, the only reason that DLC exists (In my opinion) is to either A). expand on existing content with new missions and what not and that builds off of existing mechanics. B). To give the player a new experience that add new mechanics for a fresh take on the game.
Ironic how EFT also stands for electronic funds transfer…
Somewhere at some point a person had to unironically say "Yea a quarter of a thousand dollars is a reasonable amount to ask for a PVE Co-Op mode." and it was met with approval from the room. Talk about blinded by greed or completely disconnected from reality.
they forget that most humans don't have thousands in disposable income. its what happens to people when they are blinded by corporate dehumanization.
I like to imagine some dev was fed up with the company and said it as a joke while his boss happened to be walking by at his most suggestible
I can get a pos hoopty for the same price and spend more than 10 hours. This is laughable
@@kingcannabis4208 but is that fair to the hoop manufacturer since you're not continuing to pay going forward? Think of their shareholders you monster.
i imagine it went more like "those suckers actually bought the $110 bundle for p2w shit, lets see if they'll pay $250 next lol"
This is not EA level of greed, it’s an psychotic level of greed
I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS.
I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way..🎉
I feel like even "Psychotic" is too nice of a term for this level of greed. It's like Joker's "I'm crazy, not stupid" quote. I can imagine even some psychopaths that still organs and sell them back to people would be like "That's fucking dumb."
@@PWRGEUTTPyou do not make better content than Charlie
@@connerthewubbzler1062no, not psychotic. Take EA, Ubisoft, and Activision’s greedy tendencies and combine them into one. Obviously, NO ONE is dropping 250 on Tarkov.
They are probably on the same level of greed of that one fired ea executive that wanted to make people pay actual money to reload in battlefield
man im 25 and remeber watching your videos on the the web browser games whered you make fun of them while playing mustve been 13 years ago just subbed thank you
youre welcome
It’s heartbreaking when the devs do something like this and the community won’t come together and make them fix it
The "Unheard Edition" because all complaints will go Unheard
Anyone buying this will be unheard
Rest in Peace, Escape From Tarkov.
Rest in Piss, Battlestate Games.
game wont die lmao the people will pay 250 because they got no life
games not going anywhere sadly the cheaters are already paying thousands so 250 is nothin
Rest in piss
Forever miss
@@souljaboy.6668hackers would say otherwise
Bro this game wont die and the devs going no were
Waiting for this man to explain how the "update" or well, new CONTENT will be put into the game WITHOUT BEING DOWNLOADED by players.
This should be a lawsuit.... Honestly i paid 100$ for something i expected id get for free. They lied.
One thing that is not being talked about enough.
BSG Updated their TOS in February 2024, which removed a clause that would allow for customers to pursue a refund in the event the game did not receive an official launch. This tells me that they were prepared that this might tank the game completely, and wanted an escape plan.
Escape From Monetary Responsibility
The writing has been on the wall for a while if you take a step back and look at it objectively. A couple CZcamsrs have done deep dives on their finances and they make terrible monetary decisions like arena and big extravagant events and I think they were really banking on arena being wildly popular and bring in a bunch of players and then they could slowly dribble in micro transactions ( which is something Nikita has said multiple times would never happen) their gamble failed miserably and this might be the final nail in the coffin if they don’t make it free for EoD players and drop that price by at least 100-150$. This might be their final cash grab before they abandon the project for good.
@@brettsteuart if they had a stronger hand in anti cheat and straight up banning people, arena could've been better, plus the PVE can EASILY bring back many people. But no, they didn't just shoot themselves in the foot, they took a goddamn grenade launcher to it.
Why don't they just officially release it? What is the difference?
Just because they removed that from their TOS doesn't effect anyone who agreed to it when the verbiage was in the TOS when they purchased the game. If they attempt to enforce that change on legacy players then they are acting in bad faith and open themselves up for even more litigation. Either way, I think we just witnessed the fastest self implosion from a company ever.
A DLC being anything above 60$ let alone 250$ should be considered a war crime
DLC that costs more than the base game is 100% a war crime.
(Unless the base game is free)
its not a dlc, its a game edition that comes with additional gear and a bunch of advantages over other players. its pay to win.
And just like war crimes, shit like this always goes unpunished.
@@WtfAreHandlesLol it’s not just DLC it’s the entire game plus more.
Hell, I consider 30 ridiculous
Frontier development did exactly the same thing for elite dangerous. The life time pass only includes the first 3 (ish) dlc (this was then turned to the core game a few years later). Before cutting the console community our of the game completely. Many of us were actually backers for the game when it was crowd funded originally.
Bought EOD years ago and only got access to arena after 3 weeks after. Felt like a slap in the face.
Theyre basically doing an exit-scam. Cash out big one last time then leave.
yea, the game is on its deathbed awhile now
@Mitozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz saddest part is this last wipe was one of the best updates ever. Fixed recoil, reworked armor, reworked balancing. Everything was getting to a good spot just for them to shit all over it
Just yesterday I was reading an interview with one of the main EFT developer (Nikita Buyanov), and he said the game wouldn’t have micro transactions…
Turns out they wanted to add macro transactions
This is when there gonna say some real dumb shit like "erm actually you can't classify this as a micro transaction 🤓"
He's Russian, they are not strangers to lying all the time
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181 Let’s not get racial here. I just find it hilarious, considering the fact he is connected with some russian military groups and considers himself an honest and loyal person
@@maxkhamrovskiy7181True!
Hell, the entire Russo-Ukraine war they've been lying.
If you want a more comprehensive uh.. "list" of their lies I'd implore you to look up Habitual Linecrosser.
Developers tend to not have much say. It was probably still the plan when he said it
A new game mode is content, typically content that you download after release is dlc.
I once purchased EFT, and played it minimally and had fun while doing so, after being offline and not playing for 2-3 weeks i got banned without explanation and after contacting support i was denied a explanation of being banned and any further messages sent to the support were ignored, so I'm never buying Escape from Tarkov ever again, got absolutely scammed
To add insult to injury, the PVE mode added to the unheard edition has queue times for a SINGLE PLAYER MODE that can be upwards of 5 minutes and you can "lose" connection mid raid and lose all your gear! Its truly pathetic behaviour and the game mode isn't even worth the absolute destruction of their companies reputation.
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
@@LeiSnows Bait used to be believable
@@LeiSnowsBait used to be believable
@@LeiSnows Bait used to be believable
@@LeiSnowsBait used to be believable
"We're not forcing people to buy the new edition, were just taking your $150 and pretending we never did so you have to pay again"
Glad you did a main channel video on this. As an EOD owner with about 2500 hours in this shit is a slap in the face. All my buddies have EOD to play and this type of decision will drive away normal and casual players alike. This game is already really difficult and now making it borderline p2w is egregious
The CEO at a studio I worked at for awhile would pull us into a meeting to pitch ideas at us - specifically my team, the Community-facing team - to see how we thought players would react to certain things. We'd tell him they'd absolutely hate an idea, it was bad for the game, etc.
He'd just shrug and start assigning tasks to people.
Zero doubt in my mind someone high up is single-handedly orchestrating most of this and doubling down because of his over-inflated ego.
honestly as fucked as it is i gaurantee you nikita is making all of these decisions, he hasnt known what the fuck they are trying to with tarkov for awhile now it feels like. he would be the higher up person thats doing this. they are just ruining their game to try to get money at this point
Name and shame the CEO, so we know what companies he's worked at.
This is definitely Nikita's doing, it's been known he's specifically tried to make Tarkov even more of a bitch to play
I've seen it in all my jobs , some guy gets the company from his tata and ruins it all for nothing
@@NickDaGamer1998 Just the one - he started it. But don't worry, thanks to a massively botched release, the studio now lives in infamy within certain circles. 😏
I'm surprised they didn't just stick with selling skins and cosmetics. Every dude with tactical gear autism already loves tarkov, and BSG knows that
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Clearly they don't otherwise they mightve stayed in their goddam lane
They could literally add a t shirt for you're PMC and the community would gobble it up hello know guys who buy a fucking patch their character could wear. Then they pull this
$250 In Brazil Currency is literally a minimum wage. that's crazy, not even gta 6 will have this price
I started playing Tarkov after a couple of years and got so sick of it that I started to just use SPT and my experience was wonderful. The problem with the game is not because of the game itself, rather because of the hacker problems plaguing the game for a impressive amount of time honestly, and Nikita's stupid decisions one after the next.
The Escape From Tarkov Discord server is still in shambles ever since this happened
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You shouldn't be there anyway, nobody should be playing this game, the devs are in bed with the Russian military and paramilitary groups operating in Ukraine
"It's not DLC, it's DLG - downloadable gamemode."
Ohh, that makes so much sense thank you
They made a good decision releasing PVE at this price. The poors won't be able to buy it, which is a win by default, and will keep the real fans happy. Tarkov isnt for poor people, sorry not sorry.
@@LeiSnows"A proud African trapped in fascist America"
@@LeiSnowsBait used to be believable
Which makes it even worse. It should be part of the base game
@@silberlung3440 you do realize this is an MMO right? One with very little recurring purchases. So if this is how they initially monetize access to that PvE server that’s on them. They can’t make it free to everyone who already owns the game, they can’t afford that. Eventually at some point when Nikita realizes Russia 2028 will have to get renamed before he gets to work on it he’ll consolidate that into a single player expansion for tarkov. Probably a little bit after the full game is out and you can buy the exclusive single player edition for like 40 dollars. Financing a game like this is rough, BSG have a lot on their plate.
12:47 The priority queue is the least pay to win thing about this. Here’s a run down for those that haven’t played tarkov :
- Traders have a limited stock of items. Buying limits are there to prevent people from panic buying certain items, especially certain meta items. EOD players will be more able to buy out certain items while non EOD players will be left in the dust.
- Items that are crafted in hideout can be sold on the flea market; depending on the item, this could create a wealth gap between EOD players who produce the item as an easy source of income and non EOD players who have to buy that item from EOD players.
- The increased pocket size allows people to carry more and bigger items. In particular it means they can go in raid without a rig and still be able to carry 1x2 magazines for the bigger more powerful guns.
To think that so many great games like Pepper Grinder, Another Crab's Treasure, and Tales of Kenzera are going unnoticed for less than 1/20 the price
The poor intern that meant to type 25 dollars. But now the company is too prideful to bock down.
bsg wouldn't sell it for 25 bucks, the game is so expensive and still a beta too
@@aspected Even Star Citizen wont have to balls to launch a 250 $ DLC
@@charlescabbage2933 doesn’t star citizen have a single ship for 700?
Pretty sure star citizen has a 50k package 😂
@@MachineGunJoepwns It goes further than that. That's the most expensive ship in the BASIC tab. After you spend 1000$, and then I think 10 000$, you get access to previously hidden tabs with more expensive ships and ship bundles - most expensive being at 40 000$. It's bonkers.
more like escape from the shein factory
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more like escape from Xinjiang
@@PWRGEUTTPnerd
im glad charlie is covering this, ihave 2000+ hours and its like watching a friend becoming corrupt, disappointing.
Been playing EFT for a few years now. Bought EOD about 2 years into playing the game excited for future content to come that had been talked about. Seeing this happen, broke my reputation with the company dumbfoundly.
i think a huge part of gaming is the fact you used to be able to have an old laptop and play for free and it only cost you your time , internet bill and electricity bill but it was pretty much free , now a hobby you have wanted to do is more affordable
I agree. Gaming is meant to be for everyone. Rich, poor, old, young etc. And anyway, if you price your DLC at $250 the player base is going to be so small it will die within days…
I could unironically buy passes to a bowling alley for not only me but for 2 other people and we could go daily and play games and bowl every single day if we wanted to for the same price as it is for me to upgrade my eft from eod to the unhinged edition
I’m out here debating to buy a new AAA Game or a MG Gundam
Time for cardboard crack
We've got our monkey brains and the younger generations to thank for this. The mobile market validated the practice of dlc and microtransactions and now younger gamers are seeing it as completely normal to spend 100s to 1000s on skins, items and extra modes.
they also added a "unique melee" that they bought off a asset store for $7.50 that they added into the $250 version
i hate bsg just as much as the next guy, but theyre not the same assets
@@jugowater9546regardless, we’re talking about the most generic knife known to man.
So glad this is getting talked about outside of just the EFT player base.
I have 2 friends that bought the EOD years ago. They loved the game and played it daily. One day i asked the contents of the edition and they told me about the stash and other stuff. I told them it sounded a bit p2w but they gave it a pass because they would get all DLC for "free"; i warned them that i had a feeling the devs would have made a big mistake soon or later, this is because i didn't like the devs at first sight when i watched a stream with my friends. Now comes this new version, they tried to defend it (that suprised me, like two addicts they couldn't see it was awful) but after talking with them they understood that they basically got lied to. Now they modded the game and only play with single player mods and hate the devs.
A friendly reminder that Mr.Krabs once sold SpongeBob for 62 cents
way better than $250
He's worth at least 250$
But did that affect his business?
@@GmmBeast He went back on it too fast to know(SQUIDWARD called him out), which says something.
Also Spongeboy me bob annoyed his new owner so much and so fast he gave him back almost immediately.
All I want is for Cycle Frontier to come back. My sweet child is gone and I will never be the same. EFT died for me a while ago when they couldnt get audio working slightly well.
That's crazy, with all the backlash they could of easily done this. "Oh sorry it was suppose to be $25 dollars, for any who may have bought it at the 250 price tag you will be refunded and as a show of good faith we'd like to give everyone the chance to try the new DLC over the weekend/Week" And then for those who did get the lifetime for DLC, just give it to them and thank them for their support. Yet they choose to double down on it, that's crazy.
Did you know that:
You can fund yourself and three friends the full version of the game Helldivers 2 with the DLC Super Citizen ($59.99 x4) AND STILL HAVE $10 in reserve
in the same price you get one DLC for Escape From Tarkov ($250)
thank you ministry of truth from super earth 🌎
No. The eod edition is $150 and the dlc is another $100. The base game is like $60 bucks and has access to everything of eod except stash bonuses and rep. If you buy eod for $100 you are also getting arenas.
What's really crazy is they announced they were taking EOD down for good, "so you better hurry up and grab it because this will be your last chance to get this edition". How many people ran out and bought EOD before it went down? I'm sure a LOT! Then they put this edition out afterwards and said nothing before taking down EOD about a newer edition coming right? Damn son
This is becoming a very common tactic in many places. There are bands that toured "for the last time" only to come back 4 years later. Just to squeeze every penny form you they can
People that succumb to FOMO tactics are weak and deserve to be mocked, but not more then the greedy companies that fucked them
My friend bought it and I almost did. Still sitting on standard. I am not installing patch 14.6
I paid my car 300 Opel cadet 1.6 got it with 150K km in great condition with no rust and they expect me to pay 250 for a game DLC that is not even that good
I’ve been sober from tarkov for a few months now, my main regret is not quitting sooner
Cod released mw3 a 70 dollar dlc. Now tarkov with 250 dlc. We are doomed if we dont dunk these people
If only big name streamers had the stones to tell people to boycott these 💩games like Cod and Tarkov in boat droves.
@@Jules279nah bc the cod devs actually listen to the community outside of iw and it’s not even close to same as last year it’s not even comparable what tarkov is doing
At least $70 while overpriced af is still close to the usual price of AAA games. $250 is just outlandish. I'm pretty sure you could get nintendo switch for that.
but mw3 wasnt a "dlc" yes it was technically but for the content it had just at launch made it more than a whole new other game from mw2, eft pve on the other hand is a new "game mode" in tarkov and it doesnt even feature anything new either youre just basically only playing vs scavs only instead of scavs and other pmcs
@@Cyborg_J and tbh that’s always been the cost of dlc for cod it was always 15$ for every map pack which comes out to about 70$
My husband has been playing escape from tarkov for as long as we've been together. He's poured almost 8 years into this game, got EOD before we were married, and genuinely poured more time into this game than any other games he's ever played. I've sat and watched him play for countless hours while he told me about different armors and weapons. It is a game that even me, who never played it, held dear because my husband loved it so much. Even after our son was born, he would wear him in a carrier and whisper to him about the game as he played. So many fun nights and sweet memories, and BSG is just shitting on its loyal players. We're having our second boy in 3 months, we can't drop $250 on video games anymore, and especially after my husband got EOD and expected this DLC for free. Nikita is just shitting down his fans throats and expecting them to take it.
If they weren't so greedy this would be a super wholesome comment
I can't shake the feeling that the company somehow got pressured into this decision.
Also the fact that BSG is not even trying to negotiate with the community... I put a lot of time into this game and I always thought that they had an initimate relation with the streamers and players... this shocks me
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Hey Charlie,
I'm a long-time Tarkov player (over 8000) hours logged, and someone who built my entire PC rig back in 2020 when I could finally afford it purely for this game. I'm a longtime Tarkov player, am in several of their discords, and have in depth knowledge on not only the game, but the community surrounding it in all aspects. This is the only game I have reliably played outside of their other "DLC" EFT: Arena. If you were to put even more heat on this it would be so appreciated, and I know from several of the pillars of the community I'm a part of (over 15+ EFT exclusive discords) we'd love to hop in a call with you and go over the smaller things you may have missed to blow this up even more.
Thanks Charlie.
Sincerely,
ThePerplexedRat
Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a Twin girl 😘🙏🏽
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You should email charlie instead because then it's guaranteed he'll at least see what you said even if he turns you down. He probably won't see this comment.
Talk about a PR disaster, at the very least with the amount of backlash they have received they should at a minimum offer the new mode separately at a substantial reduced cost.
Corporations are inherently greedy, but when you have a PR disaster like this you don’t double down on that greed that’s how you lose even the most loyal customers.
It should be free for everyone who bought the EOD edition, no excuses.
I don't understand the fact that people are mad about not getting the new DLC for free if you bought the EoD, but not about the $250 price tag. Insane
@@Mr.DISRESPECT they are mad about both
@@Mr.DISRESPECT the 250 is a high prize, if u have the money idc if u buy it, but im owner of EOD and they practically lied to all of us, so yeah, idc about the price cuz im not gonna buy it
The way that fatass Nikita is handling this shit tells me his studio doesn't even have a PR department