So many things dying in 2024 such as: - MatPat - Twitch - TikTok - Funimation - Rooster Teeth - Imaginary (film) - Overwatch 2 - US Immigration - PlayStation - Fortnite Item Shop
It's sad that good games like that with devs that really wanna give the best for players is eclipsed by misscommunication from the devs themselves and from the shi**y (and greedy)publisher decision
Bro, the FIRST training manual tip I get coming back to Helldivers 2 is “The Ministry of Unity ensures that all of mankind is united as one by protecting us from internal threats, such as deviant behavior and expression of dangerous ideas.” If that’s not a coincidence I don’t know what is then
A needed lection. I don't care if this proves to be an exception, I'm just glad that it happened rn with Helldivers 2. Literally the first game in years that made me feel like back as a child when you discovered what you thought was the best game ever.
They review-bombed it on Steam so heavily it went to Mostly Negative. Steam was about to de-list it in major countries. The gamers spoke and were at least temporarily heard.
Charlie smiling at the beginning reminds me of the deleted scene from Terminator 2 where Jon Connor tries to teach the T-800 how to smile - and it's somewhat just as horrifying. Also love how Arnolds face goes to a frown when John regrets trying to teach him.
I saw one parody of this tweet that was like "Steam's issuing refunds and we're hearing about fraud charges, you win this round. We're still trying to figure out how to legally scam you, and we're not quite there yet."
I scoffed at the tweet saying "We're still learning what is best for PC Players," as if no one at Sony thought that immediately cutting off players from 100+ countries who paid for the game wouldn't be in their best interests.
Oh, they definitely thought that. It's just that any large corporation has their heads and wallets so far up their asses, they'd sell civilization to Satan for a few bucks before making any moral decision they wouldn't immediately profit off of.
Sony is so used to having a community of Playstation boot-lickers, especially when some of them were defending the mandatory PSN requirement that is unavailable for countries like us, that they didn't realize that the larger PC market isn't going to take their crap and put up with it. That being said, everyone is so enamored by the first paragraph that most people would gloss over the second one that shows that Sony hasn't given up. "We're still learning what is best for PC Players" is just corporate speak that actually says "We're still figuring out what we can get away with". So I advise people to never let their guard down against these tyrannical companies.
Sony: we are still learning what's best for PC players Entire community rn saying same stuff to them every single time: 1) Publish game 2) Do nothing 3) Profit
Ikr companies are trying to be different and change their game or interact with gamers and just ruin the game all together just do what they did in the 2010's release a banger game and just do nothing after then major profit
I want that cape and I don't even own the game. The pure symbolism about the entire community banding together to collectively fight a common enemy and the fact the the Red Lines kinda looks like 4 helldivers dropping into the fight is amazing.
@@infernoblitz2449 Steam will, especially if players have a good reason. Having a perfectly functioning game not available for you in a new update is a good reason
Sony: "You're really going to stop supporting us just because this change will only negatively affect people you'll probably never meet?" Everyone: "Yes."🗿
I played the game with someone who'd be locked out of the game he paid for with this decision. You bet your ass I stopped supporting them for someone across the ocean I loved playing the game with.
Let’s be real… Steam starting the refund train and the fact that this many countries wouldn’t allow people to play a game THEY PAID FOR OVER 3 MONTHS AGO was not something they could get away with. They saw the hit coming to their wallets and bailed. Light was shone on them and enough people turned and looked that they had to back pedal. But, a win is a win. Fuck corporate greed.
That's the thing I love about Steam; even if you've owned the game for 3 months and have played many hours of it, they'll refund you if the company has broken their side of consumer agreements and screwed you over by changing TOS. So companies can't get away with doing scummy things on Steam.
For those who aren't aware, the issue wasn't simply that a game required having a PSN account. The issue was that having a PSN account *wasn't* a requirement when people bought the game, then they had the rug pulled out from under them. Other games in the future will likely have a requirement for a PSN account, and that will be accepted (perhaps begrudgingly) in cases where it was stated up front. But hopefully this situation makes Sony realize that they either need to get PSN to work in more countries without region locking or they need to drop the requirement for a PSN account for those games in order to expand their market reach further. A game like Helldivers II has had incredible success, and it's in no small part because of the fact that it was accessible to people who didn't have a PSN account.
I was in the discord when they linked to the announcement, going to the general chat and seeing it explode with people rejoicing, spamming helldiver democracy memes and democracy statements was truly a heartwarming experience the camaraderie was so strong.
The game got review bombed the moment they interfered and then instantly got better when they walked back their decision, only to say “we’re still learning what’s best for PC players.” They really did not read the room at all.
"We're still learning what is best for PC Players" *Activating automaton speak translator* *30%...* *55%...* *80%...* *99%...* *Translation Complete, displaying:* "We thought we could get away with it."
"We're still learning what completely unnecessary decision will be implemented for PC players so we could make money from them and keep them under our thumbs indefinitely"
I watched this right after the “Helldivers situation is sad” video and it was hilarious to hear Charlie be upset and then just see him smile at the camera for a few seconds after I switched vids
Company executives should be required to study the Gabe Newell business theory before running a business. 1) set up standard fair policies 2) do literally nothing else 3) profit
"We're still learning what's best for PC players" translates into "we're still learning how to harvest your data and convert you to our platform without burning down the game".
@@mtdfs5147 Then they groan and moan about "terrible developers ruining games" but are totally willing to absolve arrowhead because "BiG sOnY eViL bAd GrEEd."
My favorite is the thought of someone settling their Friday inbox at 4:55pm and the last email was "And we're gonna have them link PSN accounts." Then logging out and going home to enjoy their weekend. Only to come back to a full on fan shitting today and immediately rolling back their decision.
Makes me smile that Charlie is the most level headed when it comes to this. Other folks who've covered the issue have either insulted the angry playerbase or been mad frothing at the mouth crazies screaming down the camera.... Charlie...laid back and cheerful
I saw a meme with a fake PlayStation tweet saying what probably really (or at least mainly) happened: “Helldivers fans - Steam issued refunds and the EU contacted us about fraud charges. You won this round, for now. We're still learning how to rip you off legally, and we're not quite where we want to be.”
it’s my personal headcanon that the review-bombing and massive player drop-off is known as “The Great Helldiver Revolt.” basically just helldivers taking leave of absences for “better working conditions”
That would result in those Helldivers being executed for reason or sent to the freedom camps though. Sony's supposed to be the automatons, not Super Earth.
Sony basically taking a shot at a community built on the premise of working as one to literally wipe problems off the map was not their finest moment. Our community was one of the very few that could have managed something like this in so little time.
It's funny, as a member of the War Thunder community, we did the same thing almost exactly a year ago and it did have the same consequence of the publisher (which is also the dev in WT's case) having to roll back or change unpopular elements. Good job everyone.
I'm not a Helldivers player, so this has been an absolute trip to watch unfold from a distance. Really glad to see it turn out this way. Hope you Helldivers players from every part of the world have a great time for years to come.
I remember you once said you bear a curse, that anything you predict will always be wrong. Yesterday you predicted it was too late for Sony to walk this back. Today they walked it back. I think you've found a way to use this curse to do good.
That cape idea is the best way to memorialize the games most tumultuous weekend so far. Now the game just needs to be relisted in all regions on Steam.
I also raised my eyebrows at that statement, "We're still learning what's best for PC players blah blah blah". Forcing us into the PlayStation environment is absolutely not what's best for us. I may already have a PS account linked, but I believe entry into that cesspool should be a choice. Not a requirement that must be met in order to play a game you may have already purchased for a platform which is nearly, completely unrelated to PlayStation.
This is the Saddest state/insanity of gaming ever. Imagine being a year 0 og xbox/playstation console user (ur the true ones who got xbox/playstation to the position theyre in today) and microsoft/Sony tells you "we are still learning whats best for PC players" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Remember back in the SANE days when PC players was getting annoyed on purpose and microsoft/sony was focusing on making good games for their first class xbox/playstation console citizens? We are truly living in the end times of BASIC SANITY. Instead of them learning whats best for PC players - they should go back to learning whats best for making great consoles that ship with good complete games......like the OLD SANE FUNCTIONING DAYS. LOL u cant make this up. as more and more time goes by....u can just witness insanity taking over more and more we contine to let weirdos run the show. FIre phil spencer.
🙄 I don’t understand why people are reacting to that line. It’s not some imbedded code speak. You just need to translate corpo speech to regular talk. “We are still learning…” is just a way to save face. It’s saying “we messed up” without being direct. “What’s best for PC players” is actually quite direct. Sony spent 2 decades trying to create an exclusive environment for their titles and effectively locked out anyone without a PlayStation from playing their games for years. They want to take a bite out of the PV gamer market but they still have this mindset of creating an exclusive ecosystem. They are actually learning, and hopefully they can extrapolate these experiences for future decisions.. Lastly, one thing that I have noticed after watching Charlie and Asmongold talk about this situation is that there is a concerted effort to try and create a narrative as to WHY Sony would do this or find out some type of greedy motivation. In my opinion- this whole situation was probably just an accident. Sony (I think) wasn’t trying to pull a fast one or get greedy, they were just trying to implement the plan they had from the beginning- mandatory account linking. The whole “why sell it to these countries..” argument is valid, but doesn’t mean they were being malicious. Whoever handles distribution probably wasn’t made aware that they SHOULD blacklist countries without PSN accounts. That’s an easy mistake to make in a big corporation. Another explanation is that the people handling distribution just fucked up there. A third explanation is that steam may have fucked up and not implemented the distribution plan correctly. Obviously these are all problematic, but they are hardly “evil! Bad!” Sonys willingness to walk back with this statement just goes to show that they really like money. They don’t want to restrict access to their game. They probably didn’t even realize so many countries had these issues with PSN accounts when they made the decision to require account linking. Lastly, for all the countries who have the “must own a PS4 or PS5” requirement- there is probably a good reason for that. A lot of hackers come from these Eastern European countries and (just a guess) the requirement to own a console is probably just a way to prevent as many hackers. They probably don’t sell many titles to PC users in those countries as well. I’m not a Sony fanboy or anything like that, but I do enjoy my PS5. I’m glad people worked together to fix this problem and I’m glad Sony made the decision to walk back the requirements.
@@ryanramsey4376"they realized their mistake"? Really?! All they did was cancel a patch. They never said they would remove the PSN requirement. It's still listed as required on the steam page. They just wanted to get the review scores back up before next weeks investor call.
Helldivers seriously is the best example of what a “live service” is. Helldivers is so over the top badass and goofy is amazing. All the updates have made me so immersed.
And there's still so much more content coming. Vehicles, massive enemies, entirely new factions. I really think as long as they keep raking in the cash, the sky is the limit for this game.
They have an investor call next week. Of course they wanted to make sure their number 1 game wasnt going of the rails right at this second. The requirement is still listed on their store page. Their statement just said this specific patch wouldnt move forward. They didnt say they would never try again in the future. This is the most "nothing happened and everyone cheered" thing.
Lets be honest here, it was not the players ranting that made them reverse course, it was Steam offering the refund. If Steam didn't do that, SOE would have told players to sit on a stick and spin. Honestly, I don't think Sony will do anything regarding HD2 in the future. I think they freaked out because so many people killed their SOE sub due to the SB boycott, and it is close to the end of the quarter. So they thought they could boost their numbers this way to look good on their quarterly report. The only thing that changed their mind, was that so many refunds were happening after Steam allowed it, they realized that was even worse than the lost subs and folded.
@@TheReallDarkHorse Horses are domesticated, one-toed, hoofed mammals that have been used for thousands of years as beasts of burden, draft animals, or for riding. They have evolved from small, multi-toed creatures into the large, single-toed animals of today.
I'm adding this to my personal list of "big companies taking Ls and being forced to backtrack" that I use to reminisce whenever I need a pick-me-up, right alongside the D&D OGL fiasco and the Unity screw up. Warms my heart!
Tell me about it, had a guy get all emotional on me and saying how I was projecting my hate for sony because I was asking why Sony needed to link ps accounts just to ban people. It's crazy.
"Were trying to figure out whats best for pc players, your feedback is invaluable" Also known as "were trying to see how far we can go before pc players get upset. Well be expirimenting more later"
I thought u were a legitimate channel for 3 seconds then realized u bought that channel from small gearbox warehouse and claim to have gotten that from comments
![Eminem - Houdini [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/22tVWwmTie8/mqdefault.jpg)
Charlie - smiles
50% of viewers- "Aww"
Other 50%- "My God"
He had the mix of joy and evil in that smile
Im in the other 50% 😂
His shit eating grin had the hair on my neck stand up
Was kinda uncanny ngl
It was honestly like that scene of Arnie learning how to smile in Terminator 2, right down to the lips twitching.
That grimace at the beginning shocked me
Almost scrolled off cuz of it
grimace shake
Grimace?!
So many things dying in 2024 such as:
- MatPat
- Twitch
- TikTok
- Funimation
- Rooster Teeth
- Imaginary (film)
- Overwatch 2
- US Immigration
- PlayStation
- Fortnite Item Shop
Bro shook me with his grimace 😉
Helldivers going from "Overwhelmingly Positive" to "Overwhelmingly Negative" and is now "Mixed"
It's at mostly positive now
@@NovelPhoinixTheSecond nature is healing
It's sad that good games like that with devs that really wanna give the best for players is eclipsed by misscommunication from the devs themselves and from the shi**y (and greedy)publisher decision
Hey like American Democracy
I’ll end up buying it today, glad this mess got sorted out.
Bro, the FIRST training manual tip I get coming back to Helldivers 2 is
“The Ministry of Unity ensures that all of mankind is united as one by protecting us from internal threats, such as deviant behavior and expression of dangerous ideas.”
If that’s not a coincidence I don’t know what is then
Joel sending messages to us lmao
I Got that too
Corporate executives when they realize their consumers pay the bills
A needed lection.
I don't care if this proves to be an exception, I'm just glad that it happened rn with Helldivers 2.
Literally the first game in years that made me feel like back as a child when you discovered what you thought was the best game ever.
Too bad they'll forget in about 2-3 business days.
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
@@coronin8587 Steam won't let them 😂
@@coronin85878 days. That's when their investor call is. Expect then to begin trying to push stuff again in a month or so.
It takes a big man to admit their mistake. It takes a small man to have their mistake bashed into them *before* admitting said mistake.
Shut up
Horses
@UTTPRYANTOYREVIEWS-hz7kz😐
what if the small man is fat
@@crunked6674no they didn't. They realised a highly profitable ip was about to get tanked by their decision so they walked it back.
They review-bombed it on Steam so heavily it went to Mostly Negative. Steam was about to de-list it in major countries. The gamers spoke and were at least temporarily heard.
They actually hit Overwhelmingly negative at a point!
Back up to positive. Been steadily increasing since Sony surrendered.
Steam has nothing to do with it. Sony doesn't profit from steam.
@Twistingmp4 So when a game that Sony gains money on when sold, is sold on Steam, they don't get any money?
@@Twistingmp4Sony does get a cut of the Steam sales, since they're still the publisher of the game
Charlie smiling at the beginning reminds me of the deleted scene from Terminator 2 where Jon Connor tries to teach the T-800 how to smile - and it's somewhat just as horrifying. Also love how Arnolds face goes to a frown when John regrets trying to teach him.
Yes
Oh, that scene was deleted? (I haven't seen T2 in a long time...)
Know that every time you have fun with a game, there is an executive seething that he can't charge you by the minute
That just makes it more fun
I wish this wasn't so accurate
Ubisoft ceo tweaking at the fact gamers in fact will not get used to not owning their games:
*per reload
@@nam6128per keystroke*
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
😂
Horses
like... 7
i love spongebob lol
"I hate the young people!"
I know the first thing I think of when I boot up a game is: "Wow, I wish there was an unnecessary third party I have to log into"
I saw one parody of this tweet that was like "Steam's issuing refunds and we're hearing about fraud charges, you win this round. We're still trying to figure out how to legally scam you, and we're not quite there yet."
“The beating will continue until moral improves”
True
I scoffed at the tweet saying "We're still learning what is best for PC Players," as if no one at Sony thought that immediately cutting off players from 100+ countries who paid for the game wouldn't be in their best interests.
"Oopsie! We are still learning guyz :3" Yeah, they can fuck off
Oh, they definitely thought that. It's just that any large corporation has their heads and wallets so far up their asses, they'd sell civilization to Satan for a few bucks before making any moral decision they wouldn't immediately profit off of.
Sony is so used to having a community of Playstation boot-lickers, especially when some of them were defending the mandatory PSN requirement that is unavailable for countries like us, that they didn't realize that the larger PC market isn't going to take their crap and put up with it.
That being said, everyone is so enamored by the first paragraph that most people would gloss over the second one that shows that Sony hasn't given up.
"We're still learning what is best for PC Players" is just corporate speak that actually says "We're still figuring out what we can get away with". So I advise people to never let their guard down against these tyrannical companies.
Don't forget Arrowhead was complicit and willing to engage in multiple lies and coverups on behalf of Sony. Don't let them get away with it.
@@NoxinPistol best take.
Sony: we are still learning what's best for PC players
Entire community rn saying same stuff to them every single time:
1) Publish game
2) Do nothing
3) Profit
Ikr companies are trying to be different and change their game or interact with gamers and just ruin the game all together just do what they did in the 2010's release a banger game and just do nothing after then major profit
Don’t forget :
2.5) Shut up
I hate to break it to you, girl, but you's a serious nerd.
Oh and also don’t forget to regularly do updates.
The only way Sony can appease PC gamers is if it includes junk food and soda in its DLC.
I want that cape and I don't even own the game. The pure symbolism about the entire community banding together to collectively fight a common enemy and the fact the the Red Lines kinda looks like 4 helldivers dropping into the fight is amazing.
"The Hell-Dive" would be kinda apt for the new cape I think
Let's be honest, the ONLY reason Sony rolled backed their decision is because of all the Refunds. They weren't willing to lose all that money.
You mean all the refunds people weren't entitled to because they played over 2 hours and would only affect steams revenue
Sony doesn't do refunds
@@infernoblitz2449they did actually, you could get a discount anyways
@@infernoblitz2449bro they literally refunded anyone
@@infernoblitz2449 Steam will, especially if players have a good reason. Having a perfectly functioning game not available for you in a new update is a good reason
@@infernoblitz2449steam did issue refunds to people with more than 2 hours of gameplay "even saw a 90 hours acc given a refund)
Sony: "You're really going to stop supporting us just because this change will only negatively affect people you'll probably never meet?"
Everyone: "Yes."🗿
We dive together or not at all
I played the game with someone who'd be locked out of the game he paid for with this decision. You bet your ass I stopped supporting them for someone across the ocean I loved playing the game with.
that is such a dehumanizing thing to say "you don't know them so why do you care what we do to them?" I wonder if that's how the 1940s happened.
I think PC players hate consol too much/are too lazy that's the real reason
If you wait and watch others suffer, eventually the suffering will get to you and no one will help
Let’s be real…
Steam starting the refund train and the fact that this many countries wouldn’t allow people to play a game THEY PAID FOR OVER 3 MONTHS AGO was not something they could get away with. They saw the hit coming to their wallets and bailed. Light was shone on them and enough people turned and looked that they had to back pedal.
But, a win is a win. Fuck corporate greed.
That's the thing I love about Steam; even if you've owned the game for 3 months and have played many hours of it, they'll refund you if the company has broken their side of consumer agreements and screwed you over by changing TOS. So companies can't get away with doing scummy things on Steam.
_"I beheld as Sony fell from Heaven, _*_LIKE LIGHT-NING!!!!"_*
And Charlie smiled.
I cannot believe Sony of all people walked it back. Helldivers 2 was too damn good to be ruined this way.
Sony is not a person.
@@Zenigundam no shit?
@@Zenigundam ....its an expression??? out of all the companies out there Sony did it.
@@Zenigundam I thought Sony was a person😱😱
@@ArosianStagg It's*
You know, you're really starting to push me past my breaking point.
the awkward smile 😭😭
😭
Horses
@@TheReallDarkHorse ??
what an attractive male smile
Seemed like an ordinary smile to me
But why don't you show us your smile, Rico Suave, since you've got women hanging from your neck 24/7?
Charlie smiling gives me feelings that i didn't think i have. I'm now locking my doors and windows for the best
They saw the number of refund requests coming in and thought *"NOPE"*
"we'll keep you updated on future plans" - felt really passive aggressive
I took it as an out-&-out threat
@@gingermcgingin4106 I took it as a loaded gun aimed squarely at my face, specifically.
@@kamrynsikesI took it as an unlubed bad dragon up the back door
Yeah, it has "you won *this* round" vibes.
@@thesavagegummybear7341 I dont know about this. Might be pleasurable for some people... Just saying
The slow skinwalker smile made me think he knew my address.
he does
Shhhhhhhhhhh it's okay. He only cleans his mags next to your bed to protect you. Smiling Charlie won't hurt you, unless you call them clips
Meatcanyon will probably make a video about this.
My husband passed away last night.. this comment made me smile for the first time in many hours.
@@parnellomellohow many times you gonna comment that old hag
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
*Sony should take this to heart.*
For those who aren't aware, the issue wasn't simply that a game required having a PSN account. The issue was that having a PSN account *wasn't* a requirement when people bought the game, then they had the rug pulled out from under them.
Other games in the future will likely have a requirement for a PSN account, and that will be accepted (perhaps begrudgingly) in cases where it was stated up front. But hopefully this situation makes Sony realize that they either need to get PSN to work in more countries without region locking or they need to drop the requirement for a PSN account for those games in order to expand their market reach further.
A game like Helldivers II has had incredible success, and it's in no small part because of the fact that it was accessible to people who didn't have a PSN account.
The beginning scared me 😂
same
Fr
Fr
Horses
@UTTPRYANTOYREVIEWS-hz7kz shush lil kid
... it's a weird feeling to be confused, shocked, happy, and slightly scared/uncomfortable all at once due to a single smile lol
I think you are missing horny
Truly, Everything, everywhere all at once
Horses
@@SuperFilmregisseurI agree
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I was in the discord when they linked to the announcement, going to the general chat and seeing it explode with people rejoicing, spamming helldiver democracy memes and democracy statements was truly a heartwarming experience the camaraderie was so strong.
The game got review bombed the moment they interfered and then instantly got better when they walked back their decision, only to say “we’re still learning what’s best for PC players.” They really did not read the room at all.
"We're still learning what is best for PC Players"
*Activating automaton speak translator*
*30%...*
*55%...*
*80%...*
*99%...*
*Translation Complete, displaying:*
"We thought we could get away with it."
"We're learning how to get away with it"
"We're still learning what completely unnecessary decision will be implemented for PC players so we could make money from them and keep them under our thumbs indefinitely"
.... and why exactly do you have an automaton speak translator? I think your Democracy officer would like to hear about this. 🤔
@@TheForbiddenOne55Good idea, prolly a automaton spy 🤨
@@WoahBoWobble or one of them commie clank sympathizers
The smile is terrifying
true i pee myself then i see it
@UTTPRYANTOYREVIEWS-hz7kzwomp womp
Horses
For some, it'll the last thing they'll ever see.
Came to the comments to say this.
Current update on the Helldivers 2 situation. Sony lied to us.
I watched this right after the “Helldivers situation is sad” video and it was hilarious to hear Charlie be upset and then just see him smile at the camera for a few seconds after I switched vids
Company executives should be required to study the Gabe Newell business theory before running a business.
1) set up standard fair policies
2) do literally nothing else
3) profit
no.
@@BatmanfrmDaX yes.
I see what you mean but idolizing Gabe is cringe
@@ToTheStarsUK no btc
-SunTzu the art of war
"We're still learning what's best for PC players" translates into "we're still learning how to harvest your data and convert you to our platform without burning down the game".
Don't forget Arrowhead was complicit and willing to engage in multiple lies and coverups on behalf of Sony. Don't let them get away with it.
"You give us more money.. we're figuring it out" 😂
What Sony tried to do was to inflate their PSN numbers for bragging points. "WE HAVE THE MOST SUBSCRIBERS THAN ANY OTHER VIRTUAL STORE!"
@@TheeGlocktopusthis. IDK why ppl are taking stupid pills because the game is good. These people LIED to you. Arrowhead included.
@@mtdfs5147 Then they groan and moan about "terrible developers ruining games" but are totally willing to absolve arrowhead because "BiG sOnY eViL bAd GrEEd."
We should all acknowledge Valve's contribution to the battle, refunding Helldivers to people with 90+ hours in the game who were going to lose access.
We need every community to come together like helldivers has to tell these corporations that their greedy schemes are not welcome
That "Hey Divers" and Charlie genuine chuckle was both sweet and hysterical. Charlie was really using only 1% of his power.
send them back into the water 🗣️
He was just an eepy boy at the beginning 🥰
My husband passed away last night.. this comment made me smile for the first time in many hours.
Cornball
Cornball
When you're up against the corpos, remember the 3 R's: Refuse, Refund and Review bomb.
Review bombing will just make sony defund arrowhead and stop supporting them
Words of wisdom to live by.
When you're new whistleblower up against Boeing : Rip
Review bombing may just get the game defunded
Don't forget the fourth!
*Rage*
My favorite is the thought of someone settling their Friday inbox at 4:55pm and the last email was "And we're gonna have them link PSN accounts." Then logging out and going home to enjoy their weekend. Only to come back to a full on fan shitting today and immediately rolling back their decision.
that cape idea is actually so fucking creatively genius. that im happy for the hd2 players
"Everybody's celebrating like that scene in Star Wars..."
Oh, the ceremony at the end of New Hope!
"...where they burn Qui Gon's body."
Huh?
Right after they burn Qui Gon the Naboo celebration starts
I think he was referring to to the Naboo celebration scene, the very last scene of the film.
That was literally my thoughts exactly
@@konatraprime I know, but just the way he said it made it sound like they were cheering while Qui Gon was burning. Took me off guard lol
@@biggsducklighter6171 knowing how much the Jedi Counsel was tired of Qui Gon's shit I'm sure they felt the celebration was for them too
“Heey divers” killed me 🤣 groggy Charlie is what we all needed
Charlie sounds like my Dad after chewing up gum
The oh shit gets me even more lol
💀
"Be like Luigi, do nothing and win." I think I'll get that tattooed somewhere XD
Makes me smile that Charlie is the most level headed when it comes to this.
Other folks who've covered the issue have either insulted the angry playerbase or been mad frothing at the mouth crazies screaming down the camera....
Charlie...laid back and cheerful
I saw a meme with a fake PlayStation tweet saying what probably really (or at least mainly) happened:
“Helldivers fans - Steam issued refunds and the EU contacted us about fraud charges. You won this round, for now.
We're still learning how to rip you off legally, and we're not quite where we want to be.”
lmao
thats not meme, thats a translation
Translation more like it
@@FamilyGutsPeterGriffith8187dang beat mr
@@PokemonDictionary you made your reply 2 hours later there was no need to make a nearly exact reply 😭
it’s my personal headcanon that the review-bombing and massive player drop-off is known as “The Great Helldiver Revolt.” basically just helldivers taking leave of absences for “better working conditions”
They returned to civilian life.
That and the refunds probably did the trick.
Probably because of the refunds since a lot of location doesn't allow PSN. Sony hate giving refunds.
That would result in those Helldivers being executed for reason or sent to the freedom camps though. Sony's supposed to be the automatons, not Super Earth.
Mine's the Automatons hijacking Helldiver High Command and handing out mandatory resignation letters to all active Helldivers.
“Sony’s whole body being burned” it’s like the celebration of hinting of an ultimate evil that’s on their losing streak
why does charlie sound like he's going to say "mr anderson" and proceed to jump through the screen to murder us
MAJOR ORDER COMPLETED!
Horses
The "hey divers, thats not what that says" has me rolling lmao
got me saying ROFL 💀
bahaha
New fear unlocked “just woke up smiling Charlie”
a day where we get charlie smiling is like a year the groundhog doesnt see his shadow, you know its gonna be a good day
That smile was horrifying, like the uncanny valley of an unfeeling machine trying to imitate human emotion to get closer to you.
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
I'm going to comment here just so the bot above me is not your only reply.
@@somerandomguy5507what a nice fella
@@somerandomguy5507 thanks
Sony basically taking a shot at a community built on the premise of working as one to literally wipe problems off the map was not their finest moment. Our community was one of the very few that could have managed something like this in so little time.
Together we stand
I want a commemorative cape
I had not considered it from this perspective yet… and you’re right, this was probably the worst community to do it with
based response
It's funny, as a member of the War Thunder community, we did the same thing almost exactly a year ago and it did have the same consequence of the publisher (which is also the dev in WT's case) having to roll back or change unpopular elements.
Good job everyone.
the automatons will never proper over the mighty helldivers, fighting for democracy
we got Charlie smiling before GTA 6
Sony: "oh magic conch shell, what do we do to make Helldivers 2 successful?"
Conch: "nothing"
The shell has spoken!
I'm not a Helldivers player, so this has been an absolute trip to watch unfold from a distance. Really glad to see it turn out this way. Hope you Helldivers players from every part of the world have a great time for years to come.
Me to amigo, me to.
1 day before the update announcement i played the game at a friends place and wanted to buy it, good to see im safe again
*too and *too
Damn I knew I messed up. Lol
@@TheTuttle99Um, no, he typed it out correctly.
My first thought was "did he just wake up". I'm glad you addressed my concern immediately haha
That evil grin at the beginning made me do one with you because I agree with that so much
I remember you once said you bear a curse, that anything you predict will always be wrong. Yesterday you predicted it was too late for Sony to walk this back. Today they walked it back. I think you've found a way to use this curse to do good.
Yeah it's like that taru movie lol
Have you heard of the Stand Cazy Talk?
This fits very well as a Dhar Mann video title. “This game was perfect, what’s happens next will shock you”
Company makes a non consumer-friendly decision, instantly regrets it
Bro has Dhar Mann brain rot 😔
"We're not just telling stories, we're tarnishing a very successful video game's entire reputation."
They need to give up trying to charge me a second internet bill
What's crazy is in Sony support you can't submit any feedback, so I think people were canceling existing accounts
That cape idea is the best way to memorialize the games most tumultuous weekend so far. Now the game just needs to be relisted in all regions on Steam.
apparently they're working on that rn
Bro “Hey Divers” had me cryibg
When I heard “I love when gamers win” my brain went “I hope so you have a gaming org”
As my brother said: “They really tried messing with the community that killed 2bil bugs in 16hrs”.
I also raised my eyebrows at that statement, "We're still learning what's best for PC players blah blah blah". Forcing us into the PlayStation environment is absolutely not what's best for us. I may already have a PS account linked, but I believe entry into that cesspool should be a choice. Not a requirement that must be met in order to play a game you may have already purchased for a platform which is nearly, completely unrelated to PlayStation.
This is the Saddest state/insanity of gaming ever. Imagine being a year 0 og xbox/playstation console user (ur the true ones who got xbox/playstation to the position theyre in today) and microsoft/Sony tells you "we are still learning whats best for PC players" LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Remember back in the SANE days when PC players was getting annoyed on purpose and microsoft/sony was focusing on making good games for their first class xbox/playstation console citizens?
We are truly living in the end times of BASIC SANITY. Instead of them learning whats best for PC players - they should go back to learning whats best for making great consoles that ship with good complete games......like the OLD SANE FUNCTIONING DAYS. LOL u cant make this up. as more and more time goes by....u can just witness insanity taking over more and more we contine to let weirdos run the show.
FIre phil spencer.
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
@@PHIL-SPENCER-HATES-XBOXCONSOLE Holy fuck you're actually mentally unwell
🙄 I don’t understand why people are reacting to that line. It’s not some imbedded code speak. You just need to translate corpo speech to regular talk.
“We are still learning…” is just a way to save face. It’s saying “we messed up” without being direct.
“What’s best for PC players” is actually quite direct. Sony spent 2 decades trying to create an exclusive environment for their titles and effectively locked out anyone without a PlayStation from playing their games for years. They want to take a bite out of the PV gamer market but they still have this mindset of creating an exclusive ecosystem. They are actually learning, and hopefully they can extrapolate these experiences for future decisions..
Lastly, one thing that I have noticed after watching Charlie and Asmongold talk about this situation is that there is a concerted effort to try and create a narrative as to WHY Sony would do this or find out some type of greedy motivation.
In my opinion- this whole situation was probably just an accident. Sony (I think) wasn’t trying to pull a fast one or get greedy, they were just trying to implement the plan they had from the beginning- mandatory account linking. The whole “why sell it to these countries..” argument is valid, but doesn’t mean they were being malicious. Whoever handles distribution probably wasn’t made aware that they SHOULD blacklist countries without PSN accounts. That’s an easy mistake to make in a big corporation. Another explanation is that the people handling distribution just fucked up there. A third explanation is that steam may have fucked up and not implemented the distribution plan correctly. Obviously these are all problematic, but they are hardly “evil! Bad!”
Sonys willingness to walk back with this statement just goes to show that they really like money. They don’t want to restrict access to their game. They probably didn’t even realize so many countries had these issues with PSN accounts when they made the decision to require account linking.
Lastly, for all the countries who have the “must own a PS4 or PS5” requirement- there is probably a good reason for that. A lot of hackers come from these Eastern European countries and (just a guess) the requirement to own a console is probably just a way to prevent as many hackers. They probably don’t sell many titles to PC users in those countries as well.
I’m not a Sony fanboy or anything like that, but I do enjoy my PS5.
I’m glad people worked together to fix this problem and I’m glad Sony made the decision to walk back the requirements.
@@ryanramsey4376"they realized their mistake"? Really?! All they did was cancel a patch. They never said they would remove the PSN requirement. It's still listed as required on the steam page. They just wanted to get the review scores back up before next weeks investor call.
Helldivers seriously is the best example of what a “live service” is. Helldivers is so over the top badass and goofy is amazing. All the updates have made me so immersed.
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
@@p-__Now your shitting yourself
Immersed? Are you roleplaying in it? Hott.
And there's still so much more content coming. Vehicles, massive enemies, entirely new factions. I really think as long as they keep raking in the cash, the sky is the limit for this game.
indeed.
The 4 second long stare at the beginning was the pure definition of just woke up
They have an investor call next week. Of course they wanted to make sure their number 1 game wasnt going of the rails right at this second. The requirement is still listed on their store page. Their statement just said this specific patch wouldnt move forward. They didnt say they would never try again in the future. This is the most "nothing happened and everyone cheered" thing.
Charlie smiling is horrifying yet captivating
My husband passed away last night.. this comment made me smile for the first time in many hours.
@@parnellomellobot or crackhead with major desperation?
Lets be honest here, it was not the players ranting that made them reverse course, it was Steam offering the refund. If Steam didn't do that, SOE would have told players to sit on a stick and spin. Honestly, I don't think Sony will do anything regarding HD2 in the future. I think they freaked out because so many people killed their SOE sub due to the SB boycott, and it is close to the end of the quarter. So they thought they could boost their numbers this way to look good on their quarterly report.
The only thing that changed their mind, was that so many refunds were happening after Steam allowed it, they realized that was even worse than the lost subs and folded.
Sad, but probably true.
Common steam W
Then good on steam for having their head on good shoulders instead of being shit eating corporate mongrels fucking costumers over like Sony
Then good on steam for having their head on good shoulders, unlike the shit eating corporate mongrels at Sony
Meh the steam reviews was kinda it with bad reviews the future of the game won’t be good
I got a Sony TV ad on this video. Never had that until now.
That 3 seconds of Charlie smiling felt like a eternity 😭
0:01 the sleep paralysis demon in the corner of my room
The demon is also pleased at the tenacity of the divers.
My husband passed away last night.. this comment made me smile for the first time in many hours.
He looks like Jesus smiling
His smile is cute and manly at the same time
Another victory for Managed Democracy!
Horses
Still too early to call it that.
@@TheReallDarkHorse Horses are domesticated, one-toed, hoofed mammals that have been used for thousands of years as beasts of burden, draft animals, or for riding. They have evolved from small, multi-toed creatures into the large, single-toed animals of today.
Considering every ones already had the game refunded, kinda late lmao
@@TheReallDarkHorseh o r s e
I'm adding this to my personal list of "big companies taking Ls and being forced to backtrack" that I use to reminisce whenever I need a pick-me-up, right alongside the D&D OGL fiasco and the Unity screw up. Warms my heart!
Sony acted more like Super Earth does than the Automatons do. Actively restricting a community is such a Super Earth thing to do.
The amount of PS owners saying that PC players are just whiny and to get over it is crazy. Literally just “regulate me harder” energy
Well that explains why Sony gets away with BS. ( coming from someone who has a PC and PS5 )
Givin off that “whiny” and “needs to get over it” energy
they just dont get the problem if they knew they would no react like that
More like "regulate everyone but me"
Tell me about it, had a guy get all emotional on me and saying how I was projecting my hate for sony because I was asking why Sony needed to link ps accounts just to ban people.
It's crazy.
Charlie's smile at the beginning like a stoner who just found a baggie he forgot about. Love that Snoopy grin lmao
I confirm, stoners do be like that
Charlie's smile at the beginning is like XQC when he discovers Forest Of Relics.
This is literally me rn thought I didn’t have anything to smoke and I just found a bag in my other pair of pants. I’m so happy
I got chills when the video started and Charlie's just smiling at the camera
He's got that terminator smile
"Were trying to figure out whats best for pc players, your feedback is invaluable"
Also known as "were trying to see how far we can go before pc players get upset. Well be expirimenting more later"
Before I finished this video
That smile charlie just did makes me think he either just killed that immigration officer or shat his pants
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
Absolutely vile 😂. Holy fuck I love Charlie lore
probably both
@@hmx8694 same
@@p-__ how about- no farting? Sound good?
I like how everyone is talking about Charlie smiling more than the news.
It was buffering for a few seconds and that grin... that godamn grin
I thought my audio was muted for the first 3 seconds
Same
I thought u were a legitimate channel for 3 seconds then realized u bought that channel from small gearbox warehouse and claim to have gotten that from comments
Bot
Lol, what do you think would have been the audio for that beautiful smile?
3:50 I say is more like the final scene in starship troppers:
- It is afraid!, it is afraid!
Everyone starts rejoicing.
But it was a lie...
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
He uses the contractive form, "It's afraid. It's afraid!"
But it lied.
Thanks, been looking for this for a while
"Hey, divers!" would be one way to call the community
The game literally starts with a man asking if we have the strenght and the courage to be free.
This was the only possible ending.
Seriously. No kidding. If you pick a fight with hyper-patriotic people (even in parody), this is the ONLY way it could end.
The Luigi wins by doing nothing reference threw me back
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
What’s with the fart bots? And the “my channel is better than Charlie’s.” Bots
@@lilhonnishut up hater
Same with the Luigi remark 😂
@@lilhonni they're better than you
yep even a cape dedicated to it called the prodigal son and OMG its glorious
Who tf was cheering when they were burning Qui Gon Jinn's body??? 😂😂