Best Bullpup Trigger - KelTec RDB Trigger Design

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  • How did KelTec create the best bullpup trigger?
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Komentáře • 48

  • @flexipino
    @flexipino Před 3 lety +5

    picked up an RDB-C and took it out today for the first 100 rounds. The trigger is swweeeeeeet! After zeroing in my red dot I ha the biggest smile on my face. Shooters in the nearby bays were super curious about it and loved the ergonomic feel of the rifle. Kel-Tec got this one right.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +2

      Go try playing some Xball, air bunker field paintball, become ambidextrous, and your smile will be 10x.

  • @AverageJoe4063
    @AverageJoe4063 Před 3 lety +8

    "Why didn't I think of that?" (slaps head)

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +2

      You'd think the "Ideasman" would have...

  • @jamestarbet9608
    @jamestarbet9608 Před 2 lety +5

    I've heard good things about the RDB and its superb trigger. I've been particularly jonesing for the M43 variant that Kel Tec teased a number of years ago, but I guess I'll just keep on wanting. Kel Tec seems to have a problem actually delivering the ultra cool things they keep teasing us with.

  • @wtwarrior7698
    @wtwarrior7698 Před 3 lety +4

    Bullpup are defenetly underrated, even whit terrible triggers militarely they still are worth more than they get credit for, but the RDB is the future of bullpups, it puts up competition whit convensionals and at the best the only down side is the muzzle climb but training can trim that off

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +2

      I'd say the RDB trigger is 70% of the way between a really good mil-spec trigger (which is what I have in my BCM RECCE) and a Geissele (which my son has in his AR).
      Combine a perfectly ambi mirrored bullpup with Ambidextral Gunfighter instruction, and the bullpup makes the AR/M4 feel like a relic.
      czcams.com/video/K2Ehq4KkDVw/video.html

  • @Ambushw23
    @Ambushw23 Před rokem +1

    Imo one of the best made bullpups ever and just a super underrated weapon, the controls are great in normal spots, great trigger, can shoot left or right handed, takes nato mags, simple built and sturdy easy to clean and take apart. Nice charging handle, easily my best gun purchase I’ve made bought one used from a friend who barley shot it in nearly new condition for $700 with a rhino rail forend, ambi mag and bolt release upgrade, and a sightmark ultra reflex sight nothing special but still a $100 sight. I was like damn that cheap this thing can’t be to great but I I shot it before a number a times and liked so I bought it and never regretted it. It would have paid more knowing what I know now.

  • @foxmulder4269
    @foxmulder4269 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Appreciated.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před rokem

      Lots more on the RDB (and forthcoming reviews on Hellion)
      www.ambgun.com/ambidextral-rifle/keltec-rdb

  • @AverageJoe4063
    @AverageJoe4063 Před 3 lety +5

    I would go with Kel Tec if it weren't for their reputation for great design immediately followed by mediocre quality control and tendency to discontinue models right when they finally get it right. Plus I don't like the idea of hot brass possibly falling down my pants. Knowing my luck, that would happen to me. I might be swayed to the RDB if they had more calibers available and more accessories like foregrips and brass catchers. Their trigger design is really impressive. Would love to see a Geissele trigger for both the RDB and MDR.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +1

      Between the P17 and RDB, I've been very impressed lately. The PF9 has been in my EDC rotation for nearly a decade. SU16c is a great backpack/concealed carry carbine, although one did suffer a cracked receiver several years ago, repaired by KelTec.
      We've gone thru the RDB be piece by piece trying to guess at "consumables", my guess is:
      Firing pin
      Take down pins and retainer springs
      Extractor
      Charging handle
      and maybe some gas system parts.

    • @hondmilodoggo
      @hondmilodoggo Před rokem

      The desert tech mdr ejects the casings forward instead of to the side. This should keep them from falling down your pants.

  • @MrDiagorasofmelos
    @MrDiagorasofmelos Před 2 lety +3

    The RDB is a masterpiece of Keltec. Ok the hand guard is not that great but it's also an easy replacement. The trigger is good, the ejection is just perfect, the ergonomics are excellent. I just don't see what rifle gives you more value nowadays in terms of 223 calliber. It is a master gun. Probably my best firearm purchase ever. As a lefty, a real ambidextrous arm does make a difference.

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Před 17 dny

      That's a pretty low bar of this is your best firearm purchase "ever". Not saying the RDB is bad, but it's not even close to my best purchase ever, so I hate to see what your collection consists of if this is the best you got. Lol

    • @MrDiagorasofmelos
      @MrDiagorasofmelos Před 17 dny

      @@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      I'm glad you're happy about your collection, and it's ok you don't like mine.
      Have fun with your guns bro. I wish you nothing but happiness.

  • @kumarsalib722
    @kumarsalib722 Před 3 lety +4

    The RDB design is one of my favorite, especially with their approach to trigger and ejection. My only real complain is the cheap plasticy feel and how hot it gets with a light barrel and unlined handguard.

    • @deCarabas27
      @deCarabas27 Před 3 lety +4

      I don't mind the plastic so much, but you're definitely right on about the heat buildup. Replacing the handguard with either the Raptor or Rhino Rail from Lucky Irishman makes a world of difference. Took the rifle from a B- to an A in my estimation.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +1

      Reading the sales literature on the DuPont Zytel nylon resin, makes the polymer sound pretty good. But I guess that's the point of sales literature. I like the RDB's plastic furniture, but that's an opinion that has no chemical engineering study behind it to say it's great or that it sucks.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +3

      We'd love to get a KelTec Defender, that features an aluminum handguard, to see how it does. Maybe after we finish with our testing of the 20" RDB, we'll try boosting it's report card with one of those 3rd party hardguards.

  • @operator8014
    @operator8014 Před 2 lety +1

    How about some kind of a hydraulic trigger modification for other bullpups?

  • @goldenremnant2610
    @goldenremnant2610 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So you know, Kel-Tec doesn’t have the best bull-pup trigger. K&M does.
    Theirs (K&M) is a custom-patented Elftmann Trigger w/ 2-stage adjustable trigger.
    Just thought you should know. As a matter of fact, K&M probably has the best bull-pup on the market and even better is that it also is chambered in .308 & 300 B/O.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 2 měsíci

      It is not ambidextrous so we will not be testing it. Awfully good to see another American company produce a bullpup though.
      I suspect the trigger will be nice out of the box , but given that it is using a transfer bar to the sear like every bullpup trigger except the RDB, once it gets a little bit dirty it will rapidly degrade.

  • @AmbGun
    @AmbGun  Před 2 lety

    MCARBO has a terrific video on the RDB's trigger...to install one of their trigger return springs.
    czcams.com/video/7oxoJ63C5_k/video.html

  • @ahmadfaisal2826
    @ahmadfaisal2826 Před 20 dny +1

    Can you create animation to describe how it works?

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 6 dny

      Yes, but it'd cost about $5,000. And it would probably suck.

  • @joebagodonutssummertime8267

    Is Kel Tek reliable?

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před rokem

      Reliable or Durable?
      Reliable...the RDB has been very reliable as far as cycling and firing. The RDB chewed through the batch of Frontier 5.56 ammo that was blowing primers. Two AR's were repeatedly chocking on the stuff when the blown primer cups jammed themselves between the bolt head and barrel extension. The RDB, because it was ejecting the spent case and primer cups further away from the chamber, never failed.
      We did once have a broken firing pin tip, but it didn't fail to fire and was only discovered upon cleaning.
      The only malfunction I've experienced at 3,000 rounds, with the RDB was when the barrel extension lock nut came loose. Easy to fix, but out of service.
      Good thing it's reliable, because dealing with some cycling malfunctions would probably require field stripping.
      Durable? With 4,000 rounds fired. Broken firing pin and loose barrel extension lock nut. Replacement firing pin looks improved. Hopefully someone makes a titanium firing pin for the RDB. And maybe pin the barrel extension lock nut.
      Compared the the Springfield Hellion and Desert Tech MDR, see the AmbGun series on the Hellion.
      www.ambgun.com/ambidextral-rifle/hellion

  • @roc00851
    @roc00851 Před 3 lety +3

    If this gun can use rolling system
    Maybe it can open a window to see the chamber

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +2

      The two big complaints about bullpups:
      1. Triggers suck
      2. Malfunction handling can be ugly
      KelTec dispelled the bullpup trigger myth with their rolling system based trigger. Seems like they, or a third party, would have worked out a solution to the second issue by now. Seems that if that AK47-like dust cover could pivot up like an M249, that would solve #2.
      I don't worry too awfully much about malfs anymore. I don't know if it because I use decent ammo or if my use of Sentry Solutions dry lube or guns have just gotten super reliable, I just do not see much in the way of malfunctions anymore.
      The latter years of my experience playing paintball was the same. Early years, lots of gun malfunctions, later they became very rare...I was far, far more likely to make a trip to the dead box due to poor use of cover than because of a gun problem.

    • @roc00851
      @roc00851 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AmbGun i mean Roller-delayed gas system

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +1

      @@roc00851 like HK 91?

    • @roc00851
      @roc00851 Před 3 lety

      @@AmbGun yes

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +1

      @@roc00851 I had a HK91 clone, the PTR91. That was way before my paintball days. It was heavy, but still had a sharp recoil and bent the cases as it ejected them 50' away. I wish I had kept it, but it doesn't compare to RDB and MDR post my lessons on optimal use of cover in paintball.

  • @user-cg9nr5rq9u
    @user-cg9nr5rq9u Před 2 lety +1

    Лишние тяги требуют большой точности изготовления.

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 2 lety

      Less precision is required for a good design.

    • @user-cg9nr5rq9u
      @user-cg9nr5rq9u Před 2 lety

      @@AmbGun
      Тут больше грамотной инженерии, нежели дизайнерских изысков. Как у французов с Фамасом, например, не получилось.

    • @user-cg9nr5rq9u
      @user-cg9nr5rq9u Před 2 lety

      @@AmbGun
      Кстати, здесь курок пластиковый что ли?

  • @kalicom2937
    @kalicom2937 Před 3 lety +2

    is this a paid advert???

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety +3

      It should be, right? If I charge 3 cents a view, Kel-Tec owes me about $15. I suspect the Amazon Affiliate links in the description might bring in about $5 over a decade or so, too.
      Looking forward to the day when CZcams monetization pays enough to justify doing DemoRanch like testing...pouring concrete slurry in the the trigger group, letting it setup, setting it all ablaze, and then test to see if the rifle still fires.

    • @kalicom2937
      @kalicom2937 Před 3 lety +2

      @@AmbGun Then you are a very passionate fan!

    • @AmbGun
      @AmbGun  Před 3 lety

      @@kalicom2937 Ya think? LOL. I was shocked to find that I actually slightly prefer the RDB over the MDR.
      czcams.com/play/PLVlCoEE1rzM4-GWAgOBm_YO0IM5Q9D2b1.html