WHAT A BIKE - The Sour Crumble Review - A 4130 Steel Hardtail from Germany
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- The Sour Crumble is a modern 4130 steel trail hardtail from SOUR bicycles out of Germany. Today we take it out on the trails to see what it's made of. Is it more of an xc bike? An enduro race bike? A trail bike? Today we find out.
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Steve, the more I watch the more you keep winning me over on this one. It’s fun to watch you get excited about a new bike that surprises you. Good review my friend. Awesome.
You'd love this one. A bit more modern than your sir9
Steve has won me over on hardtails all over again! Saving up for one to build up
Steve: Just me.
Talking To himself
Lady: Are you sure?
Great review. Looks like a fun bike for 90% of riders.
Great review. Really love all the detail you provide in these full ride reviews. Keep them coming Steve and thanks!
Another great review! Thank you, Steve, and Happy Holidays!
Great review! Thank you for the effort and honesty, you've been riding a lot of fun bikes lately. I love that the all rounder can have special sauce too. This one looks so cool with that color where you are riding! Merry Christmas
Watching your informative videos reminds me of the same enthusiastic feelings I had getting into BMX and bicycles in the early 80s as a teenager, it's freaking awesome, thanks for the content!
Wonderful bike! It’s cool when you mention during your ride that the Sour has the feeling of a mullet in certain instances, like when cornering. Great review. Was fun to see that it manuals and wheelies so well!
Great review Steve and nice ride. Love the Roost Bike Ti bars & stem :)
Just enjoy watching you rockin the trails. Bike seems to be a blast. Envious about trails and weather….winter stinks.🤮Greetings from frosty German winter.
Thanks for the review. One of my local bike shops has become a dealer! Sweet! Again, I love seeing the trails. I was so lucky to have spent several years living three houses down from that water tank. Hope I can get back there. Maybe on a Sour Crumble...
That frame color looks amazing out on your trails.
Nice video, amazing looking bike and wow that scenery looks epic!
Thanks for the reviews. And that sour looks awesome
Great video Steve. I love the way you interact with other fellow trail users. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Thanks Matthew. Merry Christmas.
@@hardtailparty Thanks Steve!
It's awesome when you get excited about a bike. This reminds me of how you felt(still feel?) about the banshee paradox.
It must be a good bike when you mentioned that you could be happy if it was your only bike. Great review Steve. Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Merry Christmas
Wow! Exactly the type of hardtail that I lean towards...not sure if I'm more impressed with the bike or build on this one - sweet!
That handlebar looks sweet 💪
They are mint, I have them and the stem
Very nice review! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas
This review was "Sooo Good!" that I want one...with the ST angle and length of the Sirius S5. 🙂
Your words describe perfectly why I love my Crumble so much. I don't need another bike, the Crumble got me covered!
It's a special bike!
Merry Christmas! 🎄
What a great review as always. You make me want a lot of bikes you ride. But this one really sounds special. A bike for 95% of riding and is super fun without pushing to the max. Who wouldn't love that? I like to push hard at times, but I'm no racer or pro so I mostly run at about 65% effort. Bet this bike would be perfect for a ton of people.
So jealous of your weather, it's been so rainy and wet here for the past month I haven't even been able to hit my trails. They're all closed! Riding the gravel rig on the road for exercise, but it's nowhere near as fun. Been rocking my longsleeve Hardtail Party jersey a lot. Took a while, but I finally got it a couple weeks ago.
Thanks for wearing the hardtail party stuff with pride.
Wow can't believe I found another person that likes external cables better also. Very nice.
Looks awesome.
Great review, didn't expect to have any interest in this one based on your first look video. I know you addressed it, but always a bit of a concern if the frame will maintain the same characteristics when production is moved to Germany. And as I would expect, the move has come with a price increase.
Looking forward to your review on a Sour Pasta Party I know its considred a XC Bike but it also has a few goodies Ive noticed you like such as: Bikepacking capabilities, Steel, can be converted to single speed via its eccentric BB which by the way I dont think we´ve seen a review on from you... oh and contrary to many other steel bikes it has tapered Headtube. Itll be fun and educational to watch. Thanks for the great reviews 😉
was eagerly awaiting this review...
as having lived in the city of Dresden, Saxony for 15 years myself, I feel a little local patriotism for this one... right now it would leave too big a dent in my budget, but I had my mind set on a crumble ever since they announced it... and you just solidified my decision
one of these days, man.... one of these days I'll own one
Und, hast du gekauft? Grüße
@@sashaantidot2444 bin noch an sparen, lol
@@SlowpokeRodriguez80 ich auch. Ich möchte den Rahmen nehmen, aber nur, wenn es in Raten gehen kann, hahaha
@@sashaantidot2444 das ding ist... die haben auch nen Modell namens Big Fun, für 150/160mm Gabeln... mal sehen wo die Reise hingeht, paar Hunderter fehlen noch... die Stromrechnung war für letztes Jahr einfach zu krass
@@SlowpokeRodriguez80 meine wunsch auch ist Big Fun . Es kostet 1049 ohne Zusatz. es ist besser, es langsam angehen zu lassen, bis Sie sammeln und dann haben Sie ein echtes Fahrrad fürs Leben, als zu kaufen eine Stock und seelenlos.
Ja Nebenkosten sind überall krass . Geht wieder alles im normalen
An easy way to get those grips on is to put some cable ties inside, slide the grips on to the bars then pull the cable ties out once grip is in place
You've been riding some rad bikes lately. Gotta love that "special sauce"🤣. I have a feeling that Sour is going to blow up like Ragley did after your Big Al review. BTW, I'm really digging that bar and stem.
The bar is magical!
@@hardtailparty did you continue to use the handlebars in these 5 months later?
@@gdamjan yes, off and on with different bikes. No issues so far. I still love 'em
Those Roost Bars! are those the 20 degree or 30 degree rise in the video? What's your best reco on how to choose between the 2 options. Usage will be all around trail bike and bikepacking machine! thanks for sharing.
Do you know if Sour fixed the rear derailleur cable routing issue with having to use a zip tie?
Looks like a sweet bike. When I first heard about their bike the Pasta Party I was like that's the perfect name as a big fan of pasta & my in-laws family recipe(they are mostly Italian). Dang it sounds like I need to win some extra money to get a pair of those bars so the wife & I can have a matching ti supple bars.
AAA WHERE IS THE TREK ROSCOE VID. ive been anticipating the vid so much! I ordered one after your breakdown vid!
These things take time. I don't want to rush it.
Hi Steve, great video as usual
Man, this bike matches my 2021 Aprilia RS660 Acid Gold.
I like to use zip ties to slip on and off push on grips. Easier than using air too!
Love the review of this bike , not sure about the mustard seed color. Do you have any plans on reviewing ti bars vs carbon vs aluminum ? I’m interested in ti bars , not so much on carbon. I’m little rough on equipment. Great job once again !
They have a variety of colors available for this bike.
I am curious also! How does Ti compare to Al and carbon?
Steve i eally enjoy both you and Tes' content and opinion. What is the best all around full sus bike you have ridden? I am looking to downsize and want a better climbing bike for places like bentonville. Thanks and Merry Christmas
That's the type of thing i cover in my bike consultation service on Patreon.
Bought a sour crumble frame last year. Built it up with spares and second hand parts, hopefully upgrade as funds allow but love the frame. Very well made. Only thing I don't like same as you said is internal brake routing.
Love your videos, keep them coming.
Merry Christmas.
Your tested best cutting edge production metal frames seem mainly designed in Canada , Britain and Germany, Scandinavia. Direct sell seems to allow more nimble operations. There's plenty more areas of Europe and elsewhere for you to trawl.
My goal is to review every modern hardtail on the market. Some companies are more willing than others to send me bikes for review.
Hi! Are you also going to do a review on the Sour Big Fun? Love to hear from you and always love your content :)
I'd love to one day, but I don't have anything in the works. I really liked the crimble
It’s my wish bike . Big fun is another league
How did you like the TRP's? I'm thinking of converting my wife's Fargo from a drop bar bike into a more rigid mtb for bike packing rig and had wondered if I should ditch her current spyre for hydraulics. Thanks for another great review, just what I needed before heading into the holiday season
I'll review the TRPs later when I have more time on them.
@@hardtailparty looking forward to that review. Maybe I should just go ahead and order a pair before your review drops and they sell out 😀
Glad to see a little german manufacturer can impress you like that…
Hope you can get your hands on a crowd karl from Portus cycles. I will get in contact with Alex…maybe there will be a solution.
Those bars and stem would pair well with my ti middlechild. I wish I saw these before I got my i9 stem and one up carbon bars. 🤷♂️ next time
Is there any chance you can get a Merida BIG TRAIL to review? They wont be for sale in the US because of their agreement as a 49% stake owner of Specialized but I would love to see how they fare.
Nice review! So crazy to think 66/67° head angles are considered "steep" by todays standards when back in the 90's/00's anything below 71/72° was considered heavy Enduro or even "DH" lol.
Circa 2001..
What!? 68° head angle? That's no hardtail! That's a DH monster! 🚵♂️😆
Why is my bike a 30° head angle bit steep innit?🤔
steve could you just clarify the sizing in your review? I have very similar build(body) as you and the size small has 451 reach and made for 27.5 but you mentioned your review was medium with 451 reach. Before laying down the money I was wanted to double check the sizing you rode. love what you are doing! Great content! Ride on, brotha!
Their geo didn't match their geo chart. See my video "are geo charts accurate." Also, this bike is a 2021 model, so 2022 geo may have changed.
Great review. Love the bike. Does that mean no go for the grips?
No, it just means don't install them with isopropyl alcohol. Just use a compressor.
Use lacquer hair spray (women hair spray) installing grips. Aply a thin coat on the bars and a lot on the inside on the grips. It will slide super easy because it´s wet (the excess will come out)..... wait 1 hour for it to dry and it´s DONE!
I've used hairspray on grips for years. However, i feel that would make the graphics underbeath cloudy and yellow.
Is Kona Honzo esd frame heavier than this Sour? I think so
Hi Steve great review. Thanks. What size is this model you rode ? S or M ? I don't like 29er and I am about your size, and only S is 27,5.
He mentions the reach number as 462. That’s a medium per the Sour website.
@@kilgoretrout25 clever clever !
Yup, this is a medium 29er
@@hardtailparty Would the small have been way too small ? or just more fun ??
I just put a set of those frozen grips on my bike. I haven't ridden it yet. Hopefully I don't get the twist because they are super fun!
SUPER fun. I'm going to give them another go on another build, taking what i learned from this one.
@@hardtailparty I was able to get them on just dry without any alchohol or windex. We will see how they do tomorrow afternoon! I really want them to be good lol.
To which aspect of the bike do you attribute the better cornering to? Thanks!
It's a combination of several factors
Is the reason the ST Angle and the HT Angle dont feel like the numbers suggest because they are measured at "sag" like the stanton bikes are?
Unsure. I mention my suspicions in the video.
@@hardtailparty yeah that is why I was thinking the "paper" numbers are displayed like Stanton does. Love the review!
Any chance of you getting a Canefield Yelli Screamy to test when they ship next month? They sound exactly like your kind of bike. Aggressive HT with 120-130 mm fork
Yes
@@hardtailparty This is the review I can’t wait for. It looks to be about the perfect bike where I ride.
Great vid love hardtails 💪🏾💯
So many great bikes lately. Sounds like that 4130 frame had pretty decent ride quality too.
Indeed. Not bad at all. Not as supple as some others, but not overly stiff
Hi, and which steel hardtails would be more supple? Thanks for the review, @@hardtailparty
@@alvaroruiz104 I do my bike comparisons and consultation over on patreon. I'd be happy to help you over there. Patreon.com/hardtailparty
Can you do a review of the specialized fuse expert 2022
It's the same frame as the comp (see my review), so the only difference would be components.
I am impressed
Tho i rather have all the details of the banshee paradox you built up for xc, sir
Go check out that video
Could you ride a 665mm reach with a slack head tube angle?
I couldn't. Maybe a 465mm though. See my Kona Honzo ESD review.
Is it just me or is it hard to find a fast but playful light hardtail with modern geometry and in carbon? The ones I've come across have issues with low stack heights, slack seat tube angles, and steep head tube angles.
They're out there, but they're tough to find. Modern geo + carbon + lightweight is a tough combo
Steel is real, honestly imo steel is the best material for a hartail
Wish the discount for the Roost Ti bars was still active
Sorry, limited time only.
Did you like this bike as much as the neuhaus metals solstice mullet?
In some ways yes, in other ways no.
@@hardtailparty are the prices similar? Which would you recommend for moderate riding on the downhill, but lots of climbing and uphill riding?
@@hikingthemountains7062 I do my bike consultation via patreon. I'd be happy to help you over there.
Frozen Grips?
Don't Let em Go
😜
Those 30 inch lifts looking more like 14 inch lol. Thanks for the content though, as usual!
They're taller than my tires. It's hard to judge the size of a feature with a GoPro on CZcams
What did u think of the TRPs?
I'm still breaking (braking?) them in. I'll have a dedicated review in the future.
How does this compare to the Kona Honzo ESD or are they not directly comparable? A friend is selling his ESD and I'm coming from a 2013 Honzo mounted 130mm Formula 35 up front. I was nailed on for the ESD switch then I started watching this! Mind you almost every time I was one of your reviews I get excited 🤣
_this or the Neuhaus Metalworks Solstice Mullet?_
It depends.
Bike sounded perfect for me until the lack Lustre technical climbing performance. That is a huge deal breaker for me. Local trails are extremely rocky and technical. Lots of ledges as shown :( I kept hoping to hear Steve change his mind after more seat time.
I got most of the climbs, but a slightly steeper seat angle would help.
Stack on this bike is on higher end for a short travel and believe those bars are 35 rise as well? Just getting a low rise bar may help alleviate that as well. Wish this bike had sliders to SS!
Were you able to confirm if geo is at sag or unsagged?
Geo changed a bit after this review
@@hardtailparty ah, do you remember what the change was from the review? I noticed it had an extra bottle mounts now. Does this mean not at sag then? Sour replied to me to only say geo is with a 130mm fork, no other info.
@@Alex_564 their geo chart didnt match my measurements either at sag or static.
@@hardtailparty Oh, I've heard something similar from the discord I'm in & caused some issue trying to understand the geo chart. The talk was the geo lines up if sag was at 7.5%. But, that was for the gen you reviewed. Not sure what the updated model is at then. Thank you for the reply.
How much in American dollars ?
Where can I buy this bike in the United States?
see the dealer locator on their website.
I never had a hard tail with less than 160mm and I am not sure if i'd ever settle for anything less.
Your loss. :)
A 95 % rule bike. My kind of bike exactly.
Hairspray instead of alcohol and you’ll have no problems.
Except it might make it cloudy so you can't see the graphics underbeath
Hey, what bike should I get?
HAHAHA JK! Thanks, man!
Hey Steve, any plan to review the Sour Big Fun? A little more rowdy with external routing. I've got one on the way. Thanks for doing what you're doing!
No current plans