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@@verhelmu2305 yes Iâm pretty sure
I feel like the $250 commission artist got the short end of the stick a little bit, I know it seemed a bit more simple compared to Jazza's, but that interpretation of the direction of "Tarot-style" is totally on point for a lot of the Rider Waite Tarot decks. Some Tarot decks (especially black & white deck) are SUPER detailed, but most are quite minimalistic to give the Reader room for interpretation. The piece they made 100% fits the Tarot-style description
Yes!
I thought the same thing! They did a fantastic job following the description
Felt the same. Jazza's piece is more beautiful but the fiver artist filled the prompt better from what I know about tarot style (I don't remember what the more detailed version of this style looks like, I've only ever seen the other one)
Agree
Naaa they sucked
The second artist probably changed his style to fit the "tarot like/old illustration book" idea. The illustration of Jazzs is more visually atractive but the Fiver one stuck better to the prompt.
Was there supposed to be a witch in there?
Yeah, at first I was a little taken aback but now that you mention it, what the Fiverr artist did was SUPER early era d&d manual style, TO A T! like, nailed the prompt.
That said, there was a little disconnect it didn't look like how the commissioner envisioned and that just falls to lack of back and forth dialogue
@@turpskadey Agreed, I'd say the budget didn't quite fit the project, as the simplicity makes that style. Should've switched the first and second prompt, I want some high def pancakes!
Idk the second artist's piece looks more like a cartoon or picture book than a tarot card to me. I'd actually say their examples on their page look more like tarot than that they made here
@@stellasdoesstuff problem is "tarot card" isnt really a good style, there is so many different designs, artists and interpretations they needed to refrence a specfic collection or artist, it would be like me asking someone to draw me a "comic" styled artwork and getting mad because it wasnt the specfic style i wanted
With the $250 piece, Jazza did a great job, but it didnât resemble what I commonly view as Tarot card artwork. It upset me to hear that they felt there was a miscommunication with the Fiverr artist, when honestly, the Fiverr artist successfully altered their personal style to fit the requested parameters, whereas Jazza did not. If the commissioner truly just wanted the Fiverr artistâs style to be utilized, that shouldâve just been said, instead of requesting a very specific art style like Tarot, which didnât match Jazza or the Fiverr artistâs usual style at all. Overall, everyone did a great job.
Edit: Iâm aware that there are different art styles of Tarot, but my opinion doesnât really alter even when bringing that into consideration. The point is, the Fiverr artist inarguably used one of those art styles, correct? Yes, It is upsetting that it was not the style the commissioner imagined, but as I expressed, I fear there may have been a lack of specification when speaking to the artist (which they seemingly also felt); therefore, I feel it unfair how they spoke of it-just made me a bit upset for him. I think everyone should appreciate how he switched things up to create what he felt was a more accurate representation of tarot than his own personal style could provide. Just like Jazza, that individual seems willing to try new things! As my other comment on this video details, the video simply felt like it was missing the usual informative, constructive-criticism/positive reinforcement atmosphere that I feel Jazza always provides us with!
i completely agree with your statement
My thoughts exactly
Honest critiques are like this. I miss being in a close circle where creative people are just there to support and also help. Constructively and not in a manner that attacks. Also, people who request art nearly always know what they want but don't have the words to say it. And then you need to adapt. Best to ask the right questions first even if it takes time.
There are very different Tarot art styles. I've deen more looking like Jazza's more old school style than the more cartoony from the other artist.
You are right, yet it seems like you agree that there was some miscommunication with the Fiverr artist at the end, like maybe she wanted something more like the style they showed in their profile, but didn't success on making that point clear. Beautiful job from both of them anyways!. Tbh I would have expected something more like the Fiverr's one did lol
The fact the second artist was able to change their style to fit the prompt speaks of an amazing talent.
True
Hearing someone like Jazza talk about the "imposter syndrom" in art is so important to any artist hear, because I think and feel so many of us struggle with it, that it helps seeing this. Thank you Jazza ^-^
Jazz reference amogus
Sus
I saw jazza vent
@@ovrair6340 no way
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my only "issue" with Jazza's last piece is that he didn't include the rapier of one of the characters. other than that, he absolutely blew it out of the the park with all of the commissions and he is definitely worthy of being a 500$ commissioning artist.
lol i totally kept saying that while he was drawing it "you forgot the rapier!"
hmm maybe I should up my prices a bit then, but I don't get many commissions anyways so maybe not
@@danielrko9895 In the end you want your prices to be worth your time. Like if you take 10 hours to make something but only sell it for like, 20 dollars, you're only making 2 dollars an hour
But you also should be paid for your skill. Even if it takes only 30 minutes to make something, you've spent years honing your skill to be able to do that (assuming that the drawing actually does look good and not sloppy).
But this is also contradicted by how much normal people are willing to pay for your art. If you raise your prices when few people commissioned you to begin with, you'll probably be making less money than you would have before because no one would be commissioning you. I recommend keeping up multiple social media accounts and promoting yourself, and when you have a steady flow of commissions you can raise your price a little
@@mariadantzler2991 me too
I think.. not really, well at least at his level of commitment to a comission work. Just remember how auction of his pictures vent, many, many works of that level was sold for less than a 500$ event given they have additional value because they made by famous Jazza.
A blind react and choosing their favorite commissioned piece would have been more authentic and real. Because of course they are gonna lean towards their friend/boss!
They would have definitly known which one was Jazza's piece just from looking at it.
@@jobbeka2595 Yeah, Jazza should've just picked up someone who doesn't know his style well
ya think it would have been best if they got random people and showed the two without showing who made it
would it have been better if it was a fair test?
I think theyâd recognize his work even if it had been anonymous - but thatâs a very good point.
I donât think you gave enough time to showcase your $500 commission- whoever did that is INCREDIBLE. As an artist, I know how much time went into that piece. Bravo, $500 commission!!!
I was surprised with how quickly the $500 commission flashed on screen. Almost as if he didn't want us to look at it too long and realize that the commissioned picture had a GORGEOUS background and included the rapier, which Jazza's did not. This whole video felt weird to me. Going up against commissioned artists to see who's "better" by asking his employees? I love Jazza, he's talented and entertaining. But this little "competition" just wasn't it for me đ€·ââïž
That background was super detailedâŠI love that artistâs style. I wish Jazza included who the artist was in the description or video because Iâd love to check them out!
yeah it was kinda lazy showing of the great art piece but i think he was more hyped about his own art that was also very nice.
I completely agree its hard to look away from. So many intricate details, truly something to behold
â@@queenb1119 why are people complaining that it only flashed on screen? It is on there for 10 seconds now, did it have less screen time before and they edited the video or what?
Top marks to all but wouldâve been great to pick artists with a closer style on fiverr Feels a bit like comparing a renaissance painter with an abstract artist.
i agree
Agreed
Agreed. Maybe a round 2 video in the future
Agreed
This, for sure!
The $500 category is really hard to pick between because they're such different styles! I think the choice would ultimately be based on what the purpose of the art was. If it was sort of a reference to look at during the game, I'd say Jazza's because the semi-realism and colors make it easier to picture each character in various scenarios. For just an art piece to display, the Fiverr artist really made something special. The use of different texture techniques and colors for each character make them all stand out, and the shapes used to fill in large areas give a great sense of movement and feeling.
There should have been like four to choose from at each price range
@@recoveringsoul755 that would be lot of expenses
@@Pranjal_Raut well after what he said, that to be worth his time he'd need to whip out a 500 piece in a few minutes, he can afford it. Not sure how taxes work down under, but in the states any money you spend on self employment is a write off against your income. Unless the laws changed
I'm comfortable not comparing the 500 dollar ones. I think that they're both equally good in different ways
agreed! and the Fiverr one's style felt more fitting with the fantasy/DnD prompt given
$25 Commission 1:30 : Jazza's was well drawn and nicely colored. The second artist's was in my opinion even better drawn due to having more gesture in the lines, but no color. The last one was good and still ok for $25.
$250 Commission 3:52 : This one is the most controversial. Jazza's was very nice for the most part, but didn't look as "Tarot" as the Fiverr artist's drawing. I'd say I preferred Jazza's drawing, but that is irrelevant because the Fiverr artist stuck to the rules more. They should have understood that. They asked for Tarot, they received Tarot.
$500 Commission 8:28 : Jazza really flexed his artistic chops on this one. It was a beauty. HOWEVER, once again, he didn't follow the instructions of the piece as well as the Fiverr artist. He left out the snow and 'spirit of winter' following the elvish woman and the rapier of the 3rd character 'Flint'. So, in a sense, while his artistic skills are still strong, Jazza's "listening" skills are rusty. Maybe he's too used to calling the shots. The Fiverr artist once again, did as instructed and created a beautiful piece in a different style. If I paid $500, I'd want all of the details I requested to be included. Sorry Jazza.
The girl's skin should be light blue acc to comm
If Jazza listened well, he would paint just like Bob Ross by now :-)
I agree! I feel like the 25 dollars lost because it wasn't in color and the 250 did what was asked but the lady didn't even know what she asked for. As for the 500 dollar one, the Fiverr artist nailed it! They were all full body characters with a mysterious essence to them because of the background, the snow, the rapier, etc. Jazza's unfortunately looked like a group photo from a super hero team. I'm sorry XD
I'd say that's why he succeeded on yt, calling the shots fits this platform more than the commission type of work or whatever you wanna call it, I definetly agree with what you said.
You donât have to say sorry for that! Itâs true.
Jazza should have kept secret the identity of the artist by taking a picture of his artwork and showing all of them on his computer
Wouldn't have mattered, it's his own employees they know his art style. They would have spotted which one was him as soon as they saw it.
@@jobbeka2595 well then, he can just do a different style
@Lina Wael lol
@@taurus6392 even when he tries to do a different style, itâs still his style and you can tell he made it
The only issue I take with this is that in all instances, a commissioned piece was done without input along the way from the client. That's something I do constantly when I'm working for commissions. It keeps the client active in deciding what they like or what they don't, and if they have objections they can raise them before additional time and materials are wasted. It's by no means a perfect system, but it's better than just going on blind faith.
As in, you don't take input from the client along the way, or you do so before you complete the artwork fully?
@@Official_Rz the second one. I'm constantly sending my clients mockups, sketches, progress shots, etc
I guess this factor also depends on whether the fiver artist is willing to provide the revisions in the first place, which usually varies based on the price and on the artistâs own terms.
@@SurinaSlackArt That's awesome. You'd very much be an artist I'd want to work with then (If I was someone looking to get a commission). I just know that it can be very tiring for the artist to sometimes accommodate the changes that clientele want, and that all those changes and progress shots, mockups, etc, can cause you to use more time for one piece then expected. The customer is more satisfied though, I feel, so they'd be likely to come back. Kudos!
@@Official_Rz thanks. Trust me, you also as an artist need to establish boundaries. And since I charge my work by materials + an hourly rate, it keeps clients aware that the longer it takes, the more costly it will be in the end. I simply keep communications open as much as I can. So far, every customer I've had has been happy. ^_^
I think I honestly preferred the $250 Fiverr artist more because it was neater and fit the tarot card theme much more by being more 2D. The other ones I preferred Jazza's though.
Your avatar looks nice, did you draw it by yourself? :)
@@arnvonsalzburg5033 yeah I did like 8 years ago or something đ
yeah, the glow in the middle looked like they were trying to hide some struggle, but the rest of the vector-looking inking was really really good!
I think the best way to do something like this is to have the "commissioner" pick a favorite blindly instead of "Hey, I'm your boss, here's the one I made and here's the other one, what do you think?" I would like to believe Jazza wouldn't be weird about it if someone picked the other art piece, but regardless of how cool a boss you are, you're still a boss and they're still an employee and I feel it would be more difficult to disappoint someone you know than it would be to disappoint a stranger.
They would know which is his by style easy.
I love Jazza, but I mean... Of course the commissioners would be really happy with Jazza's results. They are his employees!!!
Yha but there his friends to and they seem truthful enought
Yeah but his artwork was actually banging man. The fiverr artists were great tho, especially the final one imo
The $25 commission should be about a half hour of work, including materials. Sure Jazza's going to "blow away" the lower budget artists because he's got a virtually unlimited budget, materials and timeline to work with. Colour costs money, you're not getting what he produced for $25.
I honestly thought the $25 fiver artist was better. Sure jazzas was good and colourful but it looked almost exactly like the reference picture the girl drew where as the fiver artist put some work into giving it a different composition and more style
@@lindsayb2914 Exactly! I was looking everywhere for a comment like this. The way the fiver person drew it, you could see much more detail and easily tell it was a monster by showing both eyes. I feel like the decision was quite biased, and based more on the fact that Jazzaâs had color.
To be fair, he was using his art pack thing. I don't know how much that is, but he did limit himself to that for this video.
@@honordevs over 100 dollars
@@quiquitohernandez7977 Personally I think he copied the pose was because typically a comissioner will give you a specific pose that they want themselves or they will specifically give permission to be different. If you change the pose because you think it looks better, doesn't matter if the comissiomer isn't satified with the work. At the end of the day it's comissions and artists have to play around what the client wants.
I found that the $25 one was to the point and is a bit more then what you paid for (good thing). The $250 has high expectations but you still have to cut corners and some of them are noticeable. The $500 one however has high expectations like the $250 one though it is exicuted at the best of your ability. If I was the costumer I would rather go with the quick, cheap $25 or go all in and get the well exicuted $500. Keep in mind all of this is just my personal preference.
So true
So i guess if you're a mid-tier artist it's safer to put on 25 than 250, and once you're very confident with your skills go 500 đ€ interesting
Same
@@aeoligarlic4024 as a commission artist??? if so you grow with your demand, where you increase when you are getting enough commissions.
For jazza the $250 is about what I would expect but fir some random on fiverr I'd expect the best piece they could possibly put out. Now if it was a well known artist that was on fiverr then that's a different story
Jazza missed a big point of the $500 commission. If I has requested the piece, I would have expected full body drawings of the characters and their weapons.
I think if Iâd picked jazzaâs style on fiverr and gave 500 for that piece, Iâd be disappointed that there was no background but all round accept that itâs a very âjazzaâ piece. I donât think itâs a $500 piece, but itâs exactly what Iâd expect from this channel pushing content. Same as the 250 piece, 40% of the page was green ink and totally missed the mark of tarot, however I wouldnât go to jazza for that style.
This whole video feels strange, usually fiverr videos are to show off artists but this was a fail. Also whoâs gonna tell their boss theyâre worse â ïž
That having been said, I feel that his was technically far more accomplished
dude, i 1000% disagree. his drawing looks like it came out of a promotional poster except for the lack of background
@@codiwawi911 I agree. The background should not have been blank for 500 USD. Honestly, 6 hours of work? When I pay hundreds of dollars, I expect the artist to spend at least a couple of DAYS on it.
@@tinyspyro8163 Possibly but idk seems kinda unrealistic for an artist to accept it. $500 while alot, sometimes artists make more doing multiple commissions that aren't as high of expectations with less time investment. Plus it just backing up work if other people also commission while the artist is still on the large one that the customer may not even like.
Well if we were to talk about doing a job, the fiverr artist that did the tarot style definitely did it right. The commission was to do a Tarot-style and they did exactly that. On the other hand, I feel like Jazza's definitely strayed from that style and thus is comparatively worse.
there are more detailed cards, so jazza isnt so off theme
@@aleks5352 yea i don't know what people are talking about. I have tarot cards and they look more like the fivver's artist actual style instead of that simple drawing. If it was a 50 dollar commission instead of 250 I think it wouldn't have been so disappointing. I doubt the artist spent more than 30 mins on that drawing
As much as I like Jazza's $500 artwork, I think for that money I would want something truly special, and Jazza's is competent, beautiful, professional, but doesn't have that truly special quality that elevates it. The Fiverr commission has a style to it that makes it unique. It's not quite as good as it should be to get my money, but it's distinctive. I'd still pay it, of course.
I agree! Thereâs a special feel to the commissioned one. Jazzas is obviously amazing and technical but theres no style .
honestly loved them both. From my perspective as someone that frequently makes comissions, the Jazza one felt like it was a good one that I would use for reference. It has clear, beautiful details of the characters, and with how they were posed gave me the impression that they were a team. The fiver commission is a gorgeous and detailed piece, but looking at it from a mobile phone (which is how I watched the vid) almost detracted from it because its so busy I would have to zoom in to be able to truly see the details. It all just depends on what the commissioner was hoping to get from the art.
@@RiaKaze that's how I felt as well. It was like they did 3 different drawings within on piece. The one on the left was just so.... Busy. I love the style of the backgrounds this person does, but I think they should separate the background busy-ness-sssss with a foreground simplicity. Or vice versa.
@@RiaKaze took the words right outta my mouth friend
completely disagree. for 500 dollars, i would expect him to get into my head and do exactly what i sketched, but WAY better than i would have. imo, he 100% delivered that.
I think second artist (250 $) was trying to do artwork in Rider-Waite tarot deck art style, and I think it looks pretty cool
That was my view too. Although I like Jazza's piece the other piece, to me, had a 100% feel of tarot card art.
I think both the $500 comissions are cool, but personally I'd be dissapointed if the artist failed to include the rapier and the trail of snow behind the elf. Those are some cool characteristics that if missed can make the whole artpiece feel lacking- especially if they mentioned those details in their commission request. These are just personal opinions, though.
The last one, with that tapestry style, seriously had me gasp in awe. This artist's style is INCREDIBLE. Your version Jazza was detailed and vivid and great in many aspects, but I personally prefer less cartoon-like art, less colours, more texture, so that artist's rendition of the 500$ order was right up my alley.
Jazza showed me such a weird insight into the world of art...how many artists we have that are at an advantage due to their fame rather than their artistic skills. Ofcourse, Jazza is an amazing artist but it really gives us a new perspective towards struggles new artists go through â€ïž
Sadly this is very much accurate
It really is a popularity contest. Once I learned that, I felt so heartbroken.
Seems like marketing and salesmanship figures in heavily, so if you aren't the type to blow your own horn, but you focus on customer service and the art, it'll take longer to get anywhere. Might be word of mouth that helps you
@@recoveringsoul755 yeah, I realised this a few weeks ago actually, whe looking at some artists that have 10k followers yet their art is awesome, they have a wide range of skills but itâs so under appreciated, then thereâs a few people with 500k to 2mil followers that are âone trick poniesâ where all their art is basically the same pose and hair etc except with something ever so slightly different. The main reason they have 500k+ followers is because they are gods at marketing their work and somewhat as you said, toot their own horn. So all in all I think these artists are more âinfluencersâ than artists/painters
This is also true for the music producers. There are artists who are better than alan walker and marshmello but they haven't figured out how to market their music. It's like being popular is successful even if you are just medicore.
i actually like the second commission a lot; it has a lot more of the tarot type of art style that traditional tarot artists use, while jazzaâs was a lot more stylized :>
Honestly, on the last, if I commissioned it, I'd ask where the rapier was. Remembering little details like that makes you feel like the artist truly cares about your vision. But that said, all of Jazza's work was incredible, hot damn.
That $500 piece by the fiverr artist is absolutely incredible, so much detail. I love it.
The biggest slap in the face being a Commission artist is having people ask me to do the exact style of another artist rather than my own style I've spent years working on.
love the idea. but i can't help thinking that there's some unfairness going on here, there's a bias in favour to Jazza since you know all the people and EVEN judging the pieces together with them, that's not fair, also the styles between Jazza and the Fiver-artist should be more comparable, i wish you guys would make a redo of this concept, ask 3 agencies for tasks, find similar artists, the agencies should feedback and commenting on the material without Jazza & Co. influence ;)... you could go a step further and have a mediator in-between Jazza and the agencies... :D- now THAT'll be a fair game sir. Jazza.
I personally would pick jazza's 25 and 250 dollar pieces, how ever, the 500 dollar piece from the Fiverr artist is beautiful and also includes the snow following the elf, and the boy ish guy also has his rapier
Is that called rapier?
@@lemon4087 Yes :)
Agreed third goes to the $500 commisioner.
This video is kinda weird for Jazza lmao. Feels like heâs trying to compete with these small artists for no reason, as though we donât already know heâs skilled at what he does. And there wasnât that much appreciation shown for the work of the commission artists, especially like the $250 one (who, while I probably wouldnât have paid $250 for the piece, met the âtarot cardâ prompt better IMO)
Agreed, I donât know why weâre comparing artworks. At least they were paid to have their art put through that đ€·ââïž
1. They were paid. 2. They got free publicity as well. I feel they got more than enough
Exactly. Isnt his whole thing not to compare art to others? N that all art is good? This seems kinda off to me :///
AGREED
Agreed, worse is that there are no links etc in the description. Just cus they're fiver artists doesn't mean they don't deserve the same respect as CZcamsrs etc. They are collaborators, so you gotta link and credit. This just rubbed me the wrong way
Really cool to see you let loose man... and boi did you!
Looks so cool!
Love your channel ADC
Love both channels. Would love to see a collaboration from you two
@@stephenryder8780 they have done one
Jazza vs adc drawingâŠI think this would be a great challenge plus both of yâall are equally popular youtubers
You can really tell when Jazza puts in his best effort for a piece, and it pays off. I love the entertaining content but I miss seeing this content too, the stuff that's clearly satisfying for him.
I have been watching you since the start of my art career, and you inspired me to start doing art in the fist place along with a few others like Ross Tran, and The lovely Ella Kremer (Not a youtuber, but arguably my biggest influence), and I am now making a living doing art. I have been doing freelance work for years now, and I have been watching you while growing on my own the whole time. I have come to realize that you have been sacrificing your art a bit for the sake of making more varied content (which there's nothing wrong with), and I think I ended up growing past you in technical skill (of course this is subjective.) But in my eyes you are a youtuber/entrepreneur first, and an artist second. And that's perfectly fine. I think to me, you feel like a dad to the art community, and I bet you are responsible for many young artists starting their career, like myself. When that has been said, I think there's a lot of responsibility in being kind of a "father figure" to the art community. That involves treating the little guy fairly among other things. This video feels like one of 2 things to me. Either its an ad for your art kit, or its you using your platform to cope with imposter syndrome/insecurities by having your own art validated over other smaller artists. Neither of those are very palpable to me. That is my honest opinion. But maybe I'm just no longer part of your target audience.
Yepp, I felt this too before and unsub, It's just recommended and I'm sad that he still haven't changed... I used to admire his videos. I think that zhc vid and thumbnails made me feel off that time.
Lol it's def not one of those two things, it's both of them đ
Jazza, youâre a wonderful artist and human being. However, this video felt very off to me. Normally, you express a lot of gratitude towards other artists and their efforts, and are very supportive of them and their work. It is what I think many of us love about you! I did not see much of that throughout the video, however, and instead it came off slightly judgmental and unappreciative between you and those you work with. I believe this video was simply cut far too short to really shine as an idea, and that is where the odd vibes are stemming from. Furthermore, it felt fairly biased in regards to the âchoose your favorite pieceâ portion, and I expected more of an analysis of what makes each piece good, and what is lacking in each piece in order to come to the conclusion they did. I believe that wouldâve helped create more of a learning experience for viewers and fellow artists, and created a better air to the video itself. Overall, constructive criticism is important, and of course, my feelings are simply opinion and not fact. I love you as always, and I appreciate all your hard work to entertain us-keep up the great work!
I agree. And he didnât even link to the artists in the text below the video. The whole video gave me a bit of a weird feeling.. idk
â@foxo boi Agreed 100%, and I adore Jazza. It just felt like this video was a "but look what ***I*** made" video.
Ima be real. I think this vid was just for his new marker set. He mentioned it as as possible
I will start with what I disagree with you Anastasia. In my opinion, artistic fields like drawing are one of the most competitive fields, and here he is a contender, competing with other artists, That's why you see less of gratitude/appreciation and more of criticism/judgment, its the nature of a competition, its an intrinsic element of it. It is different from what Jazza is used to do normally, and this is what you noticed. So, what he did here is naturally correct, but unusual for many to see him in a competitive manner. You appear to me to be against his competitive behavior (and I might be wrong). If my assumption is true, I have to say that I use to be against competition myself and believed in cooperation only, but recently come to realize how important competition is, it should never be discouraged, its one of the primary drivers for us humans to learn and improve and for the fields we are working in to develop and flourish.
And now for what I agree with you on. Having the staff rate him is wrong, as a bias towards him will consciously or unconsciously happen as there is a conflict of interest. But I think this is due to the pressure of time and the pressure to come up with new ideas.
I mean to be fair he paid them 500 dollars and 250
As someone who's been doing commission work on and off for the past couple years, it's always interesting to see how different people value their time and the art they make with that time, and what differences there are in style and workload etc.
Great video as always!! Learned a lot!
Really missed seing you create new character illustrations! Really like your style and seeing your process. Hopefully this video gets enough views to warrant more illustration videos! Maybe some random prompt ones, those are always fun ^^
Dang that $500 commission was definitely worth $500, you can tell the artist takes pride in their work.
Being a... "starving artist" myself (or at least, I tried to break into the market, failed, and settled for forever being a "hobby" artist) I feel like Jazza (whom I love and have been following for a couple years or more) was definitely worth the $25 and $250 commissions (as did the fiverr artists) but IMO, he did NOT do the $500 commission justice and I think the fiverr artist did.
Reason? The fiverr artist included a background AND was much more detailed as far as the work that went into it is concerned. When I tried the professional artist gig the one thing I noticed was that EVERYONE wanted a background and that the artists always charged MORE for commissions that had backgrounds (because they're more work). If I commissioned a piece for $500, I'd want a background - or at the very least the suggestion of a background. I'd be VERY disappointed with just the characters on (essentially) a blank page. I can get 3 characters without a background on devArt for about $40. For a $500 commission - regardless of what it's supposed to be - I want a background (unless specifically told otherwise). The Fiverr artist did that - gave an almost tapestry-like background that offset the characters that were part of the commission and tied the piece together. Jazza just left it white (apart from the slight glow around the... fairy?)
On saying that, I understand the thought process that Jazza went through, the fact that he can't spend all day (or 3 days) on one art piece for $500 and call it a "paycheck" because he's essentially working for at least... 8? people (4 + jazza in video, jazza's wife + 2 kids) so a single $500 commission isn't worth it and isn't going to fund an entire studio for... an hour much less 3 days worth of work. There's a reason why professional artists are often called "starving artists", $500 doesn't stretch very far especially if you have a partner and 2 kids to feed.
I do love both art pieces (all of them really) I just don't think it's a fair comparison when you weigh Jazza's income needs against professional "commission gigging artists'" because the effort values (assuming that commissions are their 'full time job') that each are putting into the works are going to vary substantially as a result of personal circumstances.
I can really connect with your comment and this is the reality which people don't understand while commissioning the artists.
Jazzaâs comments didnât really make sense to me though because itâs clearly not just a commissioned piece. He used it as a video idea AND to promote his art box.
Not to mention the lack of the rapier
I really hated Jazza's point about "I can't afford to spend this much time". Yes mate, you can. You have patrons and subscribers and stuff.
@@Kyle-gw6qp hes right though. 500 for 2 days of work is not scaled to someone his size. whats so hard to understand? just because he has other income does not mean he has to cut charges on his work.
Jazza your vulnerability and self-reflection always impresses me - the bits you said about how you can make your content a "joke" if you don't feel confident enough to stand behind the artwork on its own. This kind of depth in a CZcams creator (combined with awesome content) is rare. BRAVO.
Do this more often to bring up the notoriety of other artists. This is a good pay-it-forward thing.
I preferred Jazzaâs for the lower two tiers, and LOVED his $500 dollar one, but the Fiverr artist had such a unique style for that one that I also really really loved it. I also would choose both!
I would have picked all of your pieces over the others, Jazza! But the first pancake monster drawing should have been w/o color for $25 to match the others that also did not have color.
Being a commission based artist is so difficult, trying to make ends meet with your art is difficult and trying to find that sweet spot between charging enough that you can survive and giving your client a good deal is hard. People will always try and talk you down in your price, and you might not feel your art qualifies as, say, ÂŁ500. You also fear messing up and making your client upset, which in turn makes you judge your own art skills. At least, that's how I feel. I am not good enough to do commissions but the idea of doing it spikes my anxiety.
This is the kind of content I absolutely adore. Just quality illustration left and right and a little twist every time to keep it interesting...
does anyone else watch this and then remember the draw with jazza days, and his amazing quirky into and just cry a little bit haha. I started my art career while he was in the show and it helped me so much and was my go to.
I think it would be fun to compare your drawings to artists on fiver who have the same kind of art style you have. All those drawings were amazing but you almost can't compare them because of the different styles they were drawn in.
The content Jazza has been producing since this new studio is just incredible, he has that glistening smile back again and seems to be really enjoying himself with everything in this new place.
I remember watching that video with the reddit thread of âWho have you unsubscribed from?â and I know it mustâve hurt to read that, but heâs come back swinging and I get super excited whenever he drops a new video!
love u lil jazzy boy, proud of u.
really? I haven't seen Jazza in a while and he looks kinda wasted in this video, maybe tired or exhausted...
There are no bad drawings in this video.
Which is âbetterâ, is purely a matter of preference.
Dude that 500 dollars drawing is underrated, I loved how much detail they put into it
I just really want to say that I love your Pro Artist Collection! It arrived exactly on the 24th of December - best Christmas present! I'm so glad that I'm finally able to buy one of your boxes. I was already here when you launched your first box and I was so sad that I couldn't buy it! Being here now in 2021 (almost 2022) and seeing how far you've come, and how far I've come makes me really happy!
May the next year be full of joy for you and everyone!!!
Jazza, remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some art styles are more appealing to others and your style is appealing in certain categories but for me I thought the $500 5fiver was better than yours but you are competing against my artistic tastes. Not to say your art work wasn't excellent it just was different and the style appealed to me.
Thank you for your time.
Luis
fr! I did like Jazza's version of the $500 commission but DAMN that fiverr artist had it in the bag for me
In terms of skill and technique, some art is subjectively better then other art.
It would be fun to see peoples response, because at the end of the day everyone desires and likes a different- or set of art styles they appeal to. And of course youâd be at least minimally biased because you have a set art style and the paid artists have their own set of experience and styles.
Jazza I just want to say thank you for everything you talked about in this video. As a commission artist myself, I went through all of these things as I was finishing commissions for Christmas. It really helps to know even big artists such as yourself go through this. And I think pricing is such an important topic that needs to be talked about more. Thank you!
Coming back to your channel after many years, and itâs definitely reigniting a spark for digital art used to have. Thanks!
Jazza if this is how you draw when you're "rusty" I can't even imagine what an artist you would be if you did this full time all these years. Insanely talented.
Jazza starting his new career as a fiver artist
I love this video because so much of what you said is so true and not many people think about it. Time available and the tools you are making determines in a way the range of art you will be making but of course those who do commissions are aware of that, so they price around that. I always have problems pricing my stuff right depending on what supplies and level of complexity a commission is. I loved all the three artworks you made and everything everyone else made, the $250 tier from fiver probably was short on time as well so his piece didn't have much color, still amazing art. Merry Christmas!
It is a joy to hear an artist of your talents to be doubtful as well. We all know there is always someone better at anything, but when we put our best foot forward and the consumer is totally satisfied with the work it is a huge relief and praise to receive. Love your work sir and your genuine presence.
beung brutaly honest....
omfg Jazza đłyou SMASHED IT!
i frikin love the 25 dollar commissiona nd the 500 :O
@@snowball1 how old are you
@@oklljkml how old are they kinda weird question
@@rhongomyniad3540 just asking
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Jazza: Draws a zinger in the end for the first 500 dollar commission
Also Jazza: Self doubt
Yeah buddy, be more confident in your talent.
I loved the $25 and $500, the $250, I felt the other one had a more tarot feel due to colours, but yours had the better detail.
I'm thankful to hear even though I'm a beginner, even professionals like yourself constantly question and are respectful of other possibly more talented artists.
Much love your work is brilliant, would love to see some step by step videos for us newbies thoughđ
Just found your tutorials, awesome đ
All the art pieces in this video are truly fascinating and it's amazing to see what people are capable of! Sometimes I wish I could draw something which was even 1% as good as these talented artists but despite that, I feel motivated to draw just because I enjoy it. Great content as always!
Another episode of underpaid artists working a heck lot
they are freelance itâs their choice how much they get paid
Sad truth about artist is only few makes it big even if they are skilled. Most lives humble life.
Those platforms are a race to the bottom.
Who are u talking about. The fiver artists?
@@trollrat2828 they can charge as much as they want but most of their customers are teens with piggy bank change
I feel like how much jazza genuinely cares about having someone feel like their money was well spent when they go to him, immediately makes him worth $500, he's a sympathetic person who'll go that extra length to talk with the person to give them exactly what they wanted, he's a bit rough around the edges and i wouldn't say he's "professional" (someone brought to my attention he forgot the characters rapier) so because of little details like that i'd probably drop him to like $450-$400, plus im sure little things like that could be worked out with the commissioner
Love this so much, I think getting to see the people who make your channel happen is so cool. Wish they had a bit more screen time. I really wanted their deep opinions of each piece. Great vid
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Oh Jazza, I absolutely love how humble you are although you're so damn successful and you deserve all of that. You may be not the greatest artist in the world (whoever that would be), but we just love your work, having fun and how you're in it with all your heart â„ïž
I'm not someone with money so the most I ever paid for a commisson was $80 and that was from an artist I personally know. Usually I cap it at $45. I think art is extremely worth it and if I were rich I'd just buy art at all levels and tip so well
It was so nice to, once again, see how good you are at drawing! I love the slightly goofy videos in general, but sometimes it nice to just enjoy some quality illustration! That 500 dollar piece is amazing!
I REALLY missed you actually drawing like you used to and Iâm really glad to have you back. I think would all love these type of videos in the future! â€ïž
Dave has so much enthusiasm it's absolutely precious and I really hope Jazza let him take that piece home đ„ș
So cool to see you really put in the time to make an epic artwork just for the sake of making an epic artwork. You're an incredible artist and entertainer and you bring both those worlds together in such a great way!
Please do something like this again! Geez that last illustration is just GORGEOUS. Seriously amazing, I miss seeing you do your thing. :)
HOLY CRAP!!! That shading and blending on the final piece!!! đČđČđČ SO AMAZING!!
Jazza , I want to convey my sincere gratitude for all the fantastic content you've so generously shared this past year ! Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday ! Looking forward to seeing what you create in 2022 !
The lack of communication throughout the process has always been my issue with Fiverr. When I do commissions, I have this whole process where I make the sketch and I send it and I'm like "are there any details you want to change?" so that I don't end up wasting time doing lineart and THEN having to ask them to revise it later.
I would love to have seen the 250 in 500 quality. And I think if Jazza's 500 had a striking background it would have won it for Dave. I felt a background was missing. But you can for sure see why Jazza could make a living off commissions, he really is super talented.
I absolutely loved to hear your insight into how you would approach each commission. I have to say, I liked your work the best in each case, especially the last one. Made me wish you still did commission work!
Thanks for ALL this effort you put into these vids and you still manage to upload often! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Jazza should make a card game. Heâs so good at art and storytelling, I think heâd be able to convert a lot of his art into cards that gives him the opportunity to do this kind of art, but also solve the problem of things like money and providing for the people working at the studio
Totally agree!
Yo my mum totally surprised me because she got me the jazzâs pro art series it is so cool I didnât even know that my mum knew about jazzâs they are so cool and I have made cool art so far thanks jazza xx
I can't stop watching your videos. They're always something interesting that I never knew I wanted to watch and they always end up being really fun. Thank you! đ
I loved this one! I'd love to see another like this. It was so much fun to see the comparison and you definitely smashed every one of those challenges.
Being brutally honest: I think the $500 commission turned out really good. In the past I have felt like you kind of struggle to really make things look 3 dimensional as much so that they almost pop off the page. In my opinion, 3 dimensionality in art is very important, including ambient occlusion, cast shadows and reflected light and color. All that said, I think the $500 did really pop off the page and show realistic shadows and depth. Great jobđ
Man, knowing that even Jazza feels the insecurity of being an artist really hits
I cry with how fast you finish everything!!! It takes me SO LONG to do just ONE piece! I unfortunately wasn't able to order the set but hopefully in the future if you bring together another set of art supplies I'll be able to fetch it!
This was so cool Id love to see a series of this too. what an awesome way to support so many artists!
These briefs are mind blowing to me. If I had that much skill I'd never have to order a commission in the first place
I think all the commissions are worth the pay, they are all beautiful, everyone has their own.âš
You cannot compare skills between artists because they are all different, they are at different times of experience, etc. It is up to the buyer whether the style is what they want. Viewing various art works and noticing the changes you usually see between art and art. Another thing, I believe that an artist is not a copy machine that simply does the exact same style all the time, because you can grow in your style but use and respect the most significant characteristics that identify your work. And it's true that many content creators grab people's attention for who they are and many art artists tend to be ignored. In the same way, just by looking at Instagram you can see the current art situation, it is very strange. But for something it is said that art is subjective and in the networks with so much of everything it is difficult to be seen ...
This is by far my favorite episode from you for a different reason than originally intended but it helped me greatly. You are revisiting the reality of time, value and self-worth with the pressure of imposter syndrome. Art and psychology are so tightly intertwined at every level. That humble acknowledge of validation in the process while being our own worst critic can be the hardest part at times. Too often comparing work is like apples to oranges. Thanks for being open and real with the monologue Jazza, I think a lot of us needed to hear it. Keep being you.
JAZZA! All of them are amazing! I'm with Dave: yours has a charm and the other is a gorgeous tapestry. Congrats to all the artists for a wonderful job!
I feel like Jazza isn't quite comparable to the $25 commissions because he has a much looser schedule than the artists, most likely, which is why he was able to add color to it as well. My favorite of the three $25 ones was the second because the artist really brought life into the pancake demon. For the $250, Jazza's certainly had much better color value, so he easily wins there, and I'd also have to agree with both winning for the $500 commission. Jazza's illustration really brought the characters to life, but the other artist's style is just incredible to look at.
Absolutely, 100% a worthy $500 commission artist. The energy and expression coming off them is so palpable, I can only imagine that if I got a piece like that done of my own characters, I would honestly get kinda emotional. âš
I love seeing your fantastically detailed fantasy characters, which is what made me subscribe back in the day! I'd love to see more of this
I enjoyed this so much! Itâs great to see your full potential without a gimmick or challenge.
What I've learned: if you're going to commission set, pay a couple hundred dollars lol. I wasn't a fan of any of the $25 range but Jazza you definitely trumped that round. I guess you can't buy colour with pocket change lol
Back when I used to draw a lot, and each time with my whole heart & soul, I never colored them in.
It just looked so good the way it was to me. Or I was afraid I'd "mess it up".
& when I did try to practice my coloring in coloring books and such, I just didn't have the patience or dedication for it.
They didnt specify color either in the commission.
I'm an artist (and coder, writer) and i live in an area with a 15$ minimum, which is what food and rent sets off of. I compete directly against other perfectly good mod makers from places in eastern Europe and SE asia for commissions , places where 300-500$ a month can get you a comfortable life. Things like your cost break down at 5:00 are really helpful because generally people do not understand how creative labor can't really be valued against whatever they're used to getting from their 8 hour, stable, possibly very accessible lines of employment.
300-500$ won't get you too far in Eastern Europe, I really don't know what countries are you talking about but most of them, you can't live a comfortable life with just 300-500$ per month, so it only applies to SE Asia, not Eastern Europe.
You can live in a way better life in India ( basically in SE Asia ) with 300-500 $ monthly , that's like âč30k to âč50k almost
@@ArezX3 Pretty much any country thats not directly touching germany's border wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
@@ArezX3 Just look outside of EU & major cities, but still Eastern Europe. It's kind of sad truth. Russia or Ukraine for example. Lots of people have like 200-300$ salaries/month for quite heavy work :(
I love your art it always looks realistic and itâs some of the best art Iâve ever seen