SPRINTER DIESEL DEF / DPF / NOX- Basics about the Mercedes diesel exhaust fluid system service
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Hi, Van Bae here! I hope you are enjoying the channel. This video is a basic overview on the DEF system with a "simple" explanation on the DEF, DPF, NOx and how it all works together. Please contact me direct for anything regarding your Sprinter diesel engine/system. If you are interested in purchasing a van, please comment or find me on IG @ VAN_BAE_
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I’m a new owner of a sprinter, this video is so valuable and I now understand the DEF and DPF system better. Thank you!
Video was very helpful. Just opened an ambulance account with 45 sprinters. Never worked on sprinters but videos like this help. Trial by fire lol. Thanks!
Lol!!! Where is the business located?
You're gonna hate your life after they hit 100k sounds like 45 problems to me!
Sell them all buy a ford. Mercedes is a liability. One day out of no where it will go into permanent limp mode killing your clients!
Thank you for sharing. Very informative video
Such a good video 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Really good info. Thank you.
Thank you!!!
Great Video. Very helpful. Picking some up today from Mercedes. Thank you!
What dealer?!
You gonna regret buying a Mercedes when it strands you in sub freezing temperatures
Great info Thanks!
Thanks for showing me the ropes Van !!!
Very good and informative video much appreciate it
I do know how difficult it is to make videos and I have to put up with peoples little pissy comments
Very informative and enjoyable please do continue to make more content
Ray(shop and math)
Very well explain.
Thank you!
You can see that the mechanics have been trained on what voice warranty more than how to fix your car
We’ll, they are mechanics for a brand so they would have to use language that won’t be a legal battle but of course they fix issues that are not warranty covered and warranty is less pay so they would prefer lol, but we don’t always have that choice. Warranty or outside of warranty, they fix to the best of their abilities
Nitrous sensors lmao
Yay!!
Thank you very muuuuuuuch!!!!! for the info
😎👍🏽🧰🔧
Thank you!
What highway speed is recommended to clean the excuse filter? Thanks.
Van Bae after a complete top off of DEF how many miles should I expect before I start to see the gauge DEF level start to lower? I have gone about 400 miles and it is still showing full. However it did go through a Regen with out problem while highway driving. If there is a problem with the DEF pump can it still regen? 2019 Sprinter thank you
Mercedes van is left me stranded more than any vehicle I have ever owned
Why
Me too! I want them to buy it back full price paid and then some for stranding me in the freezing snow
🔥🔥🔥
Yay
Good day Vab Bae (from Canada), I am a certify diesel/gas mechanic and I had a few TDI in my time, still have the 2015 Golf, it has of course the DEF system on it and we never had an issue during the cold Canadian Winter because it slept in the garage. I am getting a new Isata 3 2021 with the MBS chassis and the RV is going to sleep outside under a RV cover. The DEF freeze point is at 12 deg F or -11 Cel, what do you recommend to do in lower temp? any additif we can add or should I empty/flush the system dry.
Add the gel it should help. Make sure you run it for a few minutes before driving it also
Thanks for good advice to drive highway speeds twice a month---Do you think 30 mins at highway speed is enough time to regenerate the DPK ? I have a 2014 MB sprinter 3500 had a DEF sensor warning and only gave me 10 more starts. Got it to a German auto.mechanic who filled me up on DEF fluid (non MB) but sensor was malfunctioning and wouldn't reset after refill (4 gallons!) so they told me the emissions system should still be under warranty and to take it into dealership. Dealership charged me $0 and refilled with MB adblue warned me never to use anything else, and got the sensor to turn off. Then my battery drain issue kicked in and the whole van went dead...when I went in for a smog, all the monitor sensors wouldn't reset. Had to go back to dealership just a week later for a second smog --but they got it to pass--sometimes only a good MB dealership knows best.
Oh no! You may need DPF already. How many miles?
I smell exhaust in the cab, no codes. New 2021 144 2500 crew 4 inline diesel. What would cause it?
I am driving a 2002 Opel combo 1.7 diesel van.
No bills
Yes dealership is looking for any reason to void your warranty even if it's not true and not confirmed they'll think of something to void your warranty
Thx
Kia Ora from New Zealand, Van Bae! Much appreciated this video. I have a "new" 2019 (not registered before 2022, they would sell that as a 2022 here) Sprinter van. At 6100km and about 130 hours of driving, I took it in for a intermittent cabin heater and a look-over due to its age. When I picked it up, they advised that the DPF was 90% full and that they had run a manual regeneration. Roads are windy and narrow here, the top speed is rarely over 100km/h (tiny stretch), and my average driving speed is 48km/h. I've only idled the van for power a few times.
Anything else should I do? I can get it up to 100km/h for a while, is that sufficient and if so for how long do I need to run and how frequently would you suggest? (especially given cost of diesel here!).
SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE DOING ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, BUT I WOULD GET IT UP ON THE HIGHWAY!
@@VanBae THANKS!!! The speed limit on highways here is 100km/h (60mph) and many of them are curvy enough that it's hard to stay above about 54mph. Any idea who long I need to run it for? I'd probably need to make it a point but don't know for how long...
Is peak blue def a good fluid for 2023 sprinter?
i just purchased a 2009 Dutchmen dorado series m-24SA Turbo diesel V6 and was told that i do not need to add DEF as it is to old
What are the part numbers for the Nox Sensors up stream and down or do they both have the same part number? Thanks
Email me your vin ajones@mbofbrooklyn.com and I’ll get for you
Sent. Thank you
hi van Bae . in my 2016 m Benz Sprinter 2500 2.1 Diesel engine I have accident and both air bags were deployed I put new ones already . I replace air bag module also an I put new pyrofuse the one in top in the battery but still have srs code b1330 . is any crash srs sensor some where ? I look for impact sensor in front of the van but there is not impact sensors on it . any help I really appreciate
Didn’t see this!
We tell our customers any money you save in fuel-you will spend in maintenance, and then some. If you value your sanity run like hell from these vehicles.
What is your opinion on cetane boost on every fill-up? Will that aid in the dpf issues?
I honestly don’t know enough about to give opinion
Hi van Bae my sprinter om651 says drive at high speed but how can in do that if it is in LIMP mode. My engine light is also flashing. Scanner says EGR deactivated. Not the first owner tho. UK
Oh man. What year is it? Has it had the new emissions recall? If you tow it in and have Recall done there’s a good chance the light will go off and be good but sounds like a dpf issue
My 2019 sprinter with 50000km is going for its 3rd egr valve. There reason being that when I accelerate to pass the transmission kick back hard and the engine feels like it's misfiring. I have already a hard down shift with this van
Canadian? What’s your closest dealer? I can reach out. Not normal but may be multiple thinga
@@VanBae mercedes benz boundary in Vancouver bc.
Hi. I got check engine light P2201(Nox sensor at fault) 2017 80k miles 3.0 but still drives as usual. What can cause that and is it bad for dpf to drive with this code? Thank you. I did not know there are two of them.
Yes for sure get it checked out, may be covered under warranty depending on when you purchased it or what the date of purchase was for original owner. Box sensor itself won’t usually cause it to “drive bad” but will cause problems sooner than later so def get it checked out!
@@VanBae I see what you did there..."def" get it checked out:)
Hi I really been enjoying your videos
I have a few questions if you could help out
I’m working on getting a 2019 or 2020 sprinter 3500 XD this year. And eventually converting it to a camper. Now occasionally I see on CZcams videos people with sprinters that totally against recommending getting a sprinter because of its problems and issues they’ve been having with it And a lot of people that are posting videos of camping and living off of them rarely do you hear them talk about the cost and problems they’ve been having if any with there sprinter. Or have they needed to use Mercedes roadside service a lot. Now I know the upkeep and service on a Mercedes is expensive. I used to own a diesel 300D. I’d love that car it drove like a tank.
Thanks for your input
Yes! Are you looking at a 4x4? Short or Long Wheelbase?
Send me an email vanbae100@gmail.com
Hey! Can I sell you the new van?
Hi! Did you ever get the Sprinter?
Hi!
So i have a 2017 cargo 3.0. I accidentally left the DEF go low, and there was a countdown that started. By the time I realized it, i was at countdown 1. I didn’t turn the engine off because I panicked, thinking that I won’t be able to turn it back on again. I added def immediately. The light didn’t go off. This morning, it showed “start iddle”
I started driving, the van won’t drive more than 5 miles per hour
Can you please help?
Much appreciated!!
Its part of saving the Planet, drive 5 Miles an hour is good for the environment
HI! I don't know why your comment was hidden! I assume you are all good now?
I need help ..are ad blue made car loss power
Excellent info. Why is there a current lawsuit about this?
Have you read the information on The mb blue tech settlement site?
a college found high emissions while road testing
I just fixed my DEF filter but I have a sensor that says start idle and now my sprinter won’t go over 20 mph. What do I do?
Hey! Does it work? Sorry was out of town
I run my van with the def deposit empty, the I fill it up, but, the engine light won't turn off, and also I hace a note my display that says "adblue system failure. What should I do?
Definitely take it to the dealer! It’s probably got a nox issue
What is DEF?
Diesel Exhaust Fluid is a mixture of urea and water (32.5% urea, 67.5% water) and pretty pure.
What DEF to buy?
Mercedes sells a DEF product called AdBlue. It’s the same Diesel Exhaust Fluid as everyone else sells. In other words, you can get it much cheaper elsewhere.
Cheapest: Fill up from a truck stop DEF dispenser. Just like fuel pumps, truck stops have DEF pumps too. It’ll be much cheaper per gallon. It’ll also probably be fresher than any you find in a carton.
Cheaper cartons than Mercedes: We have used several different brands. Prestone’s 2.5 gallon packs work well, although their pouring spout is super-cheap. You can buy the 2.5 gallon containers for less than the price of 1/2 gallon of Mercedes’ AdBlue. We’ve also used Peak BlueDEF which comes in a cardboard pack. You don’t take it out of the pack - just expose the cap and screw the spout on. Harder to pour, but it works just fine.
Anywhere that has same mix
Great comment thank you!
Im purchasing a 2015 glk 250 and the emissions system is the first thing Im ripping out and getting retuned
That’s awesome!
Where are you buying the GLK? That 250 engine is a beast with MPG
@@VanBae Im buying it from a MB dealer in British Columbia Canada. We don’t do emissions testing in my area which is why im pulling all that stuff out due to its high unreliability and cost to maintain. Once all the emissions are ripped out I feel that it will be a fairly economical suv to maintain
@@MrJasonfromcanada Do you have a dealer?
@@VanBae yes im buying it from a dealer
Can't just like rev the engine in neutral for a while if you're forced to be idle regularly?
I mean, it has to open the exhaust and reving it will not do the same thing. Needs to be driven.
Hi There
Do you have video for ML250 bluetec .Problem EGR erro ? My car driving on highway and slow down and stop ? Just 50K why
Need you guys help .Thank you very much
No 😞 but I assume it’s closer to the same
If I'm getting code for nox sensors. Can they be removed and cleaned?
Nope. Never seen it work in house but I’m sure somebody can try lol
what happens when zero start limit happens? The dealer tells me I can drive in limp mode, but people online are saying it won't start after zero starts. So what will happen after zero starts?
You have to take it in, DPF 99% of the time! Sucks. But no way to really avoid, only thing you can do it try to limit.
@@VanBae I did take it to the dealer and the reset the start count, and they said it shouldn't come back. The start count came back after a few trips. I had to order a DPF from online because the dealers cannot get any in stock from Germany. I do have a service appointment for Friday, but I only have 2 starts left again. I wanted to know if I can get away driving in. limp mode until Friday or will I end up being stranded?
hello van bae . could you please help me I have my 2016 Mercedes Benz 2500 2.1 engine I had accident and both air bags deployed I already put new ones on it and I send my air bag module to repair the say they fix I put it back on but I have air bag system code b1330 electrical fuse pyrothecnical separator resistance to high .. . the fuse on the positive battery cable in top of the battery was blow out I get new one from Mercedes and installed new one I tough that was the air bag crash fuse but still the air bag code present is there any other fuse for the air bag system ? could you please help me and tell me where is any air bags crash sensors located in this van ? I check in front of the van but I didn't found any crash sensor in front of the van. but both air bags were deployed .. . in the accident the adblue tank unit get dent the adblue tank was empty but I fill the adblue tank .. after I fill it up the adblue tank the van drove great. after 250 miles I get in dashboard start idle message .and now the van is in limp mode I have code p13e300 the number of possible engine start is limited due to a malfunction in the adblue system ....and I have this code too p152100 the starter was disabled by the exhaust aftertreament system .. please help me with any tips I really appreciate any help
Is the gas 2.0l sprinter having any problem and how many miles will they last?
No problems so far! 2 years in, I’ve seen them with over 100k and no issues
@@VanBae is that what Amazon is using ?
Gas and diesel combo depends on the driver
@@VanBae are people still buying diesel sprinter after def problems ? Also have they found any fix on it?
Fix on what specifically? Yes, predominately purchasing diesel
It doesn't stop it from entering your engine
What a good brand for off brand def
Hi! What do you mean?
@@VanBae if you're not close to a Mercedes-Benz dealership what is the best brand of DEF fluid to buy at a normal store
@@davekent20 goto vw mercedes dealer here carries cheap stuff, vw carries real ad blue , save receipt and remember warranty is 8 yrs onmb emmission equipment
What do you mean off brand? You need to use Mercedes or VW DEF brand, and use only Merc dealership to work on your Merc, you are now a Merc owner, act like one and give them your wallet
@@mannyechaluce3814 I like to give people the options, because if you read the manual it says you CAN use other, as long as it's approved. Sometimes it's not about money, but where you are driving the van, you may run low and need a fill up and not be close to a dealer.
Dam dam i keep my def fluid full all the time. I got a check def fluid and 10 mins later it put me in a 10 start count down.
Ahh, it probably needs a new DPF :( - where are you located?
How often and how long should it be driven in highway?Just purchased an used 2011 passages van,with 50k miles. Would like to last a long time.
I WOULD DO AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK FOR AN HOUR! TRADE THE VAN INTO ME, I HAVE SOME 2022'S COMING AND CAN PAY GOOD MONEY FOR YOURS :)
@@VanBae Im in Poughkeepsie New York, where is your shop?
@@OlisYFaby it’s in Brooklyn!
Would you just buy the van or only take it as a trade-in?
I really don’t want to have a loan on a van.
Hey where are located?
most ridiculous system....light that is there to tell you to add Def is really the light that says, "too late, you're fucked".
How many miles should you get out of a full tank of DEF?
Hi and thank you for reaching out! It varies depending on how much time you are running the engine and what size your tank is (older models had a few sizes, newer models have only 1). The longer intervals of driving will use less because it's cleaning it and running more efficiently but if you are idling it will use A LOT more. Stop and go driving it will last 1-2 weeks, highway probably 3-4. Again, depends on tank size (3-7 gallon) but on the info I gave, I am basing it on the average 5 gallon tank.
Its a 2021 3500xd luxe. I just took delivery from the manufacturer and it's my first rv. Lots of unfamiliarity, and lots to learn, with no live resources to ask questions at the moment.
The DEF gauge is currently ambiguous as i can't tell if it's full or empty lol. I've got a about a hundred miles and was hoping to see the gauge move by now. Hasn't blipped in any direction yet.
@@synconianattiness4809 send me the vin number, I can send you more detailed information. And your email.
@@synconianattiness4809 Do you need someone to tell you the gauge is broken? for $600 your Mercedes Mechanic will tell you that.....
They said I needed a new air cleaner I just got one the week before I went in they're just guessing on what the maintenance is your vehicle needs they don't check it confirm it know it they just tell you it needs everything $7000 for basic fluid changes
2914 Sprinter DieselPleasur WAy.I last all power in front and nobody can tell me what's wrong.I'm stack in the Garage
How I can contact you? I have probleme with dpf charge in 122%
What do you mean by charge 122%? email me vanbae100@gmail.com
I have 2013 Sprinter VIN WDAPF4CC0D9546232. After I replaced fuel filter on 40 000 miles the DEF usage increased drastically (2.5 gallons every 2500-3000 miles DEF indicator on instrument panel is going ON).
First 40k miles DEF indicator would go on every 8000-10000 miles on the same 2.5 gallons.
Please help.
Also I will be happy to know how DEF is mixing with fuel. Is there a special pomp ? Is fuel filter involved in this procedure?
There is no leak under the engine.
Thank you
DPF is filled with ash and needs to be cleaned or replaced. And DEF doesn't "mix with fuel". It is injected into the selective catalytic reduction to eliminate NOx gases created by the DPF.
Warranty is not voided by other def fluids. Otherwise def would say adblue only not def!
Are these sprinters reliable? I have the 3.0 5 speed 2018. Got it brand new,
Hi!
What exactly are you referring to?
@@VanBae I’m asking if sprinter vans are reliable? I heard people hate them and others put like 300K+ miles with no problems.
Yes they are, if you take care of out with proper maintenance and driving pattern. You have had for 3 years now, what’s your opinion so far?
@@VanBae suspension steering tie rods or steering racks rattles . So weak suspension parts. 12k miles only and suspension already makes noise. The engine clicks/ticks random pattern at low RPM (I think it’s due to EGR / emissions or due to its a V6 not inline). The trans shifts okay but sometimes really hard clunk down shifting especially uphill.. cant figure out how much throttle it likes or happy with. It’s my first sprinter I guess it’s normal due to it being a cargo van. I carry light stuff to empty. Drives weird when empty , and drives happier when loaded.
Mine is a black cap
I think the best way is to remove all that bs as soon as possible
What do you mean?
This is a courtesy comment to remind you to fill up your DEF fluid.
Great vids. Mercedes didn’t help the situation by making the DEF cap the same color as the wiper fluid cap. They could have picked literally 100
Different colors and they picked blue, go figure. It was probably the same engineer that designed the whole shitty problematic DEF system.
Lol well, technically the stuff had blue in the name so it does make some sense but that’s hilarious
Perhaps the giant "DEF" on the cap could be a clue?
I bought a 2017 Sprinter used, an ex ambulance and on the trip home the 10 starts came on, the Mercedes dealer said I needed nox sensors, I bought two mercedes nox sensors and installed them and now the codes are saying the DEF is the problem. I'd like to know the truth, what is the problem and who do I trust to fix it, the Sprinter guy at Mobile Mercedes is a chronic liar and I don't trust him because of his lies. So what do I do?
So I ran out of def and went into limp mode,in the middle of nowhere,then it hit me,I can just piss into the def tank,did just that,van started driving fine and I've been doing just that since,I make sure to piss into my def tank every other tank fill up,no problems whatsoever!!!!!
LOL!!!! That's hilarious!
If the plug box light goes out the vehicle won't run it's an over-exaggeration but you get my point the slightest thing wrong with the vehicle and it shuts down leaving you stranded even if it's not real even if it's just a communication device problem and there's nothing actually wrong with your vehicle it will leave you stranded
DF doesn't work in Mercedes bored or whatever vehicle you have it's constantly breaking
When I spend 70k on a vehicle, I don't have to go through all this shit.
Right! Wtf? C’mon Toyota, make a van for the US market! I got the $$$ ready!
Lol!!! I think the Germans got it made with the vans. We did patent it you know 🙌
less pollution, more headache
Lol true but life long lasting
I've had nothing but problems with my dff tank system and exhaust completely defective and the dealership wants to cause you $9,000 for the new exhaust system
After market def… gotta remember to also use Mercedes approved diesel, do not use aftermarket diesel!
You are wrong. My 2016 sprinter reads def level with the m o - + cluster buttons! Fyi
So many factory defects in my Sprinter van Ed Mercedes won't fix them and wants to charge me thousands of dollars to fix factory defects $7,000 in maintenance just for fluids nothing wrong with the van but $7,000 for maintenance
Only 16,000 miles and now my $300,000 van won’t go faster than a $40 bicycle, 5 mph. Mercedes used to mean something.
This system is cancer can it be deleted?
$7000 for basic maintenance and nothing is wrong with my vehicle
High-water India full destroy the whole system that's really interesting because the DF doesn't add it till the end of the exhaust so the defective design lost it's constantly going bad boy you can think of lots of reasons other than this defective from the factory
I thought the dpf was cleaned by the addition of diesel to the engine exhaust to elevate the exhaust temperature. Thed def lowers the NOx emissions and has nothing to do with cleaning the dpf. A very confusing presentation with comments like cleaning the “engine”.
What are you thinking?
Vehicles constantly losing communication with devices
Dealership really doesn't understand the bad blue system they're not really mechanics they just read what the laptop tells them to do not really understanding what they're doing Look on CZcams there's a 1000 cases of this
It’s such a terrible system, federal emission standards have ruined the beauty of Mercedes diesel. The 648 and 606 engines were amazing. Even the 642 prior to the 2008 Bluetec.
Well unfortunately MB didn’t have say in that, it was federally regulated when they switched over in 2009 to DPF system. I hear you tho, those 90s and early 2000s Diesel engines were bad AF 😝
I bought 3 jugs of DEF from my local MB dealer and they just gave me the crap that Walmart sells. I asked about this and they said this is what MB distributor gave them...makes no sense
Hahahahaha! That’s what I thought! I used to buy DEF from Walmart, Lowe’s and autozone. (Key word: used to)
Hilarious!!!!
Lol omg what dealer
If the urea is too low, just pee in it!
Just look at the mechanics they've got making this commercial is this Mercedes best. These don't look like mechanics with years of experience ariance under their belt and this is Mercedes best that they got for this commercial or shall do you want these people working on your car they don't look like they drive Mercedes to me or know what they're doing
Gasser power lover myself all the way, As I enjoy A more ethical and extensive tech network. I even get the oil changed at Pepboys for $49.99, labor included. U can't touch that, DEF. Compliance is getting tougher to meet by manufactures, Euro6 is the current standard in Europe.; soon 2024 , they will require an engine autokill switch if something is wrong with the DEF. Polititians care about Earth, "finally".
You should have been more clear. It will void your warranty on that particular part of the vehicle, not the whole vehicle. Your suspension, electronics, etc. are still under warranty.
I think you convinced me to never buy a diesel. Thanks!
Great! Lol let’s get you a gas van!
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Should be no problems with the van. You don't sound to confident mr mechanic.
Elaborate
Def, unlike antifreeze, will freeze making my Mercedes completely useless in the mountains, where I am now stuck and freezing to death! Worthless! My first Mercedes and it’s crap! Isn’t worth a dime anymore. Zero resets will kill!
So you’re telling me I can’t drive this vehicle like it’s meant to be driven or the DEF system is going to mail the function? Wrong answer The right answer is a DEF delete!
Who needs all that hassle
Can you give us some useful information? Like how do I remove all that crap you just talked about?
Just don't buy them you are good to goo
Noooooo my friend, it's all about routine service and maintaining your vehicle. I took in 2 vans this year already with over 500 miles, and paid great money for them. They hold value and last forever.
@@VanBae ok
I also have two and also I'm a diesel mechanic myself
It is no good system
I meant 500k
@@143gurmukh Where are you located? I would love to speak more with you because between my 9 years experience with vans, your experience as a diesel tech and the MB techs, we could gather some great insight
@@VanBae canada
And also the extended warranty suks
It dose not cover nothing like it said bumper to bumper
My steering pump at 75k ball joints at 25k
Steering shaft since I bought the van
(Nox sensors at 50k its was cover under warranty )
Abs at 25 k km
Ac hvc still not fixed
Belts making noise at 75 k km
Front left start wearing out at 10 k km
Not covered under warranty
Batterie dead after 2months
It was hard for them to change that
I had to prove to them it is dead they check it's ok
I left the van there for a day just so they can see it dose not start after 1 day parking
And much more
And 2012 sprinter nightmare
Def nox sensors after 6 month and glow plug oh my god
Best way to avoid shop and drive where you want
and how you want, remove all this stupid DPF, EGR
completely and reprogram your vehicle....
That’s an option. If you don’t care about the 100k warranty! Lol
But I'm rich, where am I going to spend the money? besides I need to donate money to the Mercedes Mechanic and not to mention I am saving the world, unlike those Poor people who Pollutes the planet.........
Mercedes what a price of crap
Never buy a def vehicle
These kids are fresh out of school I wouldn't have workin on my car is this Mercedes best Both the shaved head and a Mexican guy that's Mercedes Betz huh shouldn't it be a German guy aren't they German cars aren't all the manuals in German those mechanics don't look like they read German how do they work on the car Manuals not in English as far as test specs on complicated devices not in English
Yay!!!