Most Advanced Crawler ESC Ever? Spektrum SMART / Telemetry Sensored Brushless System | RC Driver
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- What if we were to tell you, you can program the new Spektrum Smart Telemetry Sensored Crawler System right from a Smart radio? Mind blown right? Yes, the Spektrum crew has been hard at work developing a new brushless system specifically for crawlers with all of the bells and whistles! We have the new Spektrum system on hand for an overview and of course some running so you can see how it operates. But most importantly we’ll go over a bunch of its key features like its ability to be programmed from the new DX5 Pro 2021 radio and it’s ability to display telemetry on the radio too. Spektrum has really stepped things up to give you more information on your electronics in an easy to use set-up. This is some exciting stuff and if you’re deep into the Crawler segment, you need to check out this ESC.
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I can't believe the amount of people that piss and moan about new products. It's not this, its that, waa waa waa.
If you don't like it, don't buy it !
It's a fantastic time to be in this hobby, we are absolutely spoilt for choice.
Great review Greg, thanks for the informative video and awesome channel mate...
Cheers 👍
NOPE! people will find something to pick at for no reason.
Horizon management - "Hey, somebody design a crawler system for us to sell!!"
Horizon engineers - "What's the phone number for Hobbywing again?"
Pretty much
Pretty much every manufacturer
Just got the hobbywing, looks exactly like it
And the hobbywing is Bluetooth tune able thru an app...🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣🤣
I see no problem. Hobbywing makes some of the most reliable speed controls.
@RCDriver_online . I read through all the comments. You respond to more comments than any other RCer on youtube. And your even willing to repeat yourself to help share good information. This is exactly why I stop here before anywhere else for my RC tube addiction. Great job Greg!
Thanks! I try, but it’s hard. With 130K Subscribers on CZcams, 180K on Facebook and 70K+ on IG, it’s almost a full time job answering questions. That doesn’t even count the emails that pour in. I want to answer them all, but I have tons of content that needs to get filmed and there the whole “real job” part too lol.
Of the the rebranding of Hobbywing ESC/Motors, this is the best. I love the fact you can change settings from the controller, where as the AXE you use Bluetooth from your phone. I've been using a AXE since they came out and Love it. Now I may have to try the Spectrum setup with the DX5 pro 2021... Nice job with the review Greg!
This is the first thing of the telemetry smart stuff that has gotten my attention, as programing from the radio is a nice touch. I have a Fusion and it is so awesome I don't know if I could justify getting a new radio to run this system.
Thanks for showing this combo.
Hope horizon puts this in their new crawler. Kinda like redcat did with their axe edition.
Ya right....that will never happen.
- Not from Horizon.
It kinda looks like a hobbywing can with different end caps.
Man I love this video RC Driver. Thanks for the info!
Spektrum needs to make their radios bigger, I want to club a Moose when I go out to drive.
Am I the only one that sees an overly extreme amount of similar features as to AXE?
its the axes new competitor.. you know like microsoft vs apple
@@charlesray6367 it is from hobbywing. Its no competitor...
yeah you can copy my homework just change a few anwsers so we dont get caught
it's made by Hobbywing. basically same thing accept with the Axe you can program through your phone vs stumbling through your controller, & the Axe is DEAD Silent whereas this makes that annoying whineing noise, atleast here on his test run it did... 👍🏼
@@runnerbaba Yep!
Its a re/branded HOBBYWING PRODUCT.
Kool set up thanks for sharing bud
Of course the crawler system looks better than my 3300 kv and 85 amp ESC combo I just bought last week for my son's Slash. Had a couple issues putting it in but finally done with a 23 tooth pinion and a 86 tooth spur. I still love our Spektrum system and will buy another but this one looks great. Thanks buddy! Speaking of ESC programmer, there's one waiting for me at my LHS! Even though I don't think it's v2.
Think you for doing this. Praying for your family too
Great video. This is my spot to crawl at. Rc madness
Looks like a great system. Love the tweaks Spektrum has done to it. Great review Greg👍👍
I came back to RC cars via FPV drone racing and everything on this ESC was available four years ago on drones. SBUS for the win.
Nice in depth review as always Greg, maybe catch up to you one day at madness.
YES! Thumbs up for "gone plaid" 15:40 Spaceballs reference FTW!
I’ve only watched that movie... oh at least 30
times! 🤣
@@rcdriver Me too along with the Princess Bride and Robinhood Men in Tights.
Im installing this today on my SCX10 iii Gladiator.
You get so much horizon stuff! I wanna buy a lot of them, but they just cost so much. It’s just so cool! You did a great review of this! I like how you always go in depth of the product.
Keep going!!
Holy crap didn't know you were local for me. I go to RCmadness all the time!!
Great video.
i run Spektrum in all my RC"s except my Crawler. i have a Hobby Wing. I'll be getting this right away. I love having the Spektrum telemetry, Especially having upgraded all my Batteries to G2 and the new chargers
This looks to just be a rereleased axe system
This is literally a rebranded hobbywing axe system with a few extra features.
Damn that would match my crawler perfect ha!
It made it look easy
Ordering on release date!
Going full spektrum! Can I use my stock gear from my trx4 sport or will I need a new pinion? Going for scale look build mostly for trails and some light rock crawling
Gone plaid! Ha ha ha! Nice reference! Great info. Thank you!
Glad someone got it! Love that movie. 🤣
a great combo. does the dx5pro have a "duo motor mode" possibly with a separate lever to vary the speed / balancin. that would be for a moa class. Grüße aus Schaumburg Deutschland
It’s looking like the Hobbywing Axe FOC copy under Spektrum orange. Yes the sensor wire extension is an optional parts to buy. Not sure from Spektrum but Hobbywing sales it.
If you are not in the spectrum ecosystem the axe makes more sense... a little cheaper and bluetooth programming. If you are already using spectrum stuff this seems like a decent product, especially if you like how the axe runs and you want telemetry.
I have the axe in my redcat gen 8 but it’s really not smooth at low speed. I am kind of new to the hobby so that might be on me with setup. If anyone has any tips on the axe setup please share👍🏻 also great content and video. That setup seems really good for people like me with not a ton of RC knowledge.
Cheers🤙💥💯
You know that is a hobbiewing esc spectrum doesn’t make a esc
@@cbforme sorry new to the hobby and got mixed up. Thanks for giving me more info!
200% drag brake made me think of this
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
LOL, I went for the Space Balls reference. “They’ve gone plade”
@@rcdriver I missed that
Neat to see you at RC Madness! That's my home store.
No Bluetooth programming or 4s, the two things that I think would make it a potent aftermarket competitor to the HW Axe system. It's neat that you can do it within the Spektrum family with the new radio, but I want BT so I can do small adjustments in the field with my Flysky GT5 and without needing a programming card. Plus the onscreen interface on the new DX5 didn't look great- there are tons of really good inexpensive LCD screens out there and they need a better designer for the GUI. I don't mind on my $70 Flysky GT5, but at $300?! Ouch. Not to mention the SR2100 is freaking $90 for a 3 channel receiver, which you will use up with throttle/steering/fan. Adding lights and a winch gets tough.
Can't complain about that great drag brake adjustment range, though!
You didn't mention a price that I heard- I assume in the $200 range to compete with Hobbywing? I'm not seeing enough to make me want to switch from an Axe system on a new build. Nice to have another option out there, though! Maybe they will have it priced well enough to include it as the stock system in a new SCX10IIIv2. I think Redcat proved with the Gen8 Axe that people are willing to buy an RTR with better electronics.
Love RC Madness. But it’s almost a 2 hour drive for me, otherwise I’d be there a lot more often.
@@rcdriver I’m on a spending freeze or I’d be there more often! Hah
do these get hot quickly? Just wondering since I want to run it in my basher. I got the 85A firma with a 3300 Kv motor. How good will this run?
Also what speed would I expect from it on a 2s lipo?
Can you use these in an on-road touring car? I like the spektrum ecosphere and want to have this level of telemetry on my RMX 2.0
Awesome, can you please make a video how you fit in to the Axial Capra 1/10 4ws
Thank you
So I have that same set up in my crawler (Axial SCX 10 II raw builders kit) and I think it’s an absolute great system for that crawler. My only issue and question is why is it so loud? I noticed in your video yours is loud just like mine.
Great video Greg. This looks nice. Are you using the new 2021 DX5 Pro? I need to get both of these now.
Yes, it’s the new 2021. Review of the radio will be done soon not that I got some wheel time in on it.
Spektrum has been making a huge push in their systems the last few years, they are in it to win it it seems. But I think hobbywing is still your best bet for performance and cost. Most likely they are both made in the same factory, ha
i was thinking the same thing they look an awful lot alike
If I get this for my scx10ii can I keep my factory receiver and transmitter?
Can you help me understand the difference in the 3 options of KV difference?? Thanks much
Does the motor cover fit with this combo?
Sweet .
gnarly ol rocks. I am curious as to what servo you have running. Transmission sounds the same as scx103, but I built mine.
Great review and test footage!
It’s a Reefs RC Triple 4. You definitely know when a III is on the rocks. lol
wow, i just put that same one in a kraton 6s. I wasn’t sure I could use the 444 in 1/10 scale.
Costly but what power!!
Quick question can i get the telemetry and settings with all spectrum radios ? Dx5 rugged ?
Cool.
Looks alot like the hobby wing axe combo only without the 5mm shaft and the battery connection probably cost more than the hobby wing to , will stick to hobby wing as I don't need a smart battery and new charger on top
I want to convert my e-revo to a crawler... could this work or not? And can i lock the diffs or do i need to buy new ones?
the clear advantage is the Spektrum "Smart" technology, otherwise they are playing catch up
Yup, at the bare minimum of just seeing your battery voltage on the screen is extremely useful.
looks like they come from the same factory as hobbywing just anodized the caps and turned the shaft down to 3mm
I saw the post on Instagram I know I find it here 👌🏻🔥😎🔥🤙🏻
I would love to know if the system will fit into a Capra. I know they’re limited on the amount of space in there. If this system doesn’t fit do you know if they have one that does? Keep up the good work.
I am still looking for an answer to your question if you have found out yet?
I just bought the G2 Axe 550 3300kv. The firma has the previous Axe 60amp ESC whereas the Axe G2 has an 80amp. The biggest issue the Spektrum doesn’t have is a Bluetooth interface like the Axe. I’d much rather program on my phone than to have to fumble through transmitter menus or buy a special program box. I guess if you already have a DX5 and you like it maybe the Spektrum version is worth it.
I got the AXE 540L and setting the ESC with a app is the best thing ever. Simply take out your phone and chance stuff right there on the trial , you can't make that any better.
@@thesillypig785 exactly
Would you recommend this combo for a Capra?
I'm wondering which is better the censored set ups or non censored motor esc set ups in crawlers
This is what the Axial Ryft should have come with.
Cool. I didn't know you still had the scx10iii rtr. What happened to the interior on it? Great vid Greg!👍🤙
I hold onto everything in case I need to help someone with a question and have to look at the car for reference. Just pulled the interior because I wanted to see if it would fit in something else and didn’t get a chance to put it back in.
I have a dx5 pro and can add my cars and all yours so I like it.. so I just bought a vanquish vs4-10 pro and in it is this firma.. I wanted to go with mamba x but instead went with this cause like he says makes sense.
If I were to buy this do I need to get a smart controller as well or can I keep the one I have?
That sensor wire plug looks like a rear backup camera wire setup
Hopefully this new competition apples to apples will make these systems more affordable. I did not see anything new that Hobbywing has not achieved already. Maybe with the upgraded remote controller but who does not carry a cellphone and download the free Bluetooth app from Hobbywing?
Looks like Hobby wings Axe System even the plug is the same.
The sensor plug is not the same. I can’t plug the motor from my Axe system into the Spektrum ESC.
@@rcdriver That makes it even worse. At least if the plugs were the same we'd have more options.
@@TVsGringoStarr Spektrum has 3 motor options so far.
@@rcdriver yeah but is it the new AXE r2 motor? I think it has a different sensor connection
@@rcdriver its the new r2 540 axe foc. Same kv specs. Same new! Plug. Bluetooth is missing though.
Is the 2 in 1 Firma ESC also programmable from a Smart Radio ?
What foams are you running?
I got this setup for my wraith and I have a little bit of a stutter at low speeds, have not programmed it yet, anyone got suggestions as to what the issue may be?
Looks cool. But would rather a Hobbywing Fusion. With the Fusion 2 in 1 is insane how smooth and slow the motor runs. In turn gives you probably 50% more traction when dont have to overcome motor resistance from obstacles. I can drive up crusty snow at same angle as on rocks
I have the same RC and ESC. How do I program it to stop rolling down?
Will this fit into a gen 8? Really like the drop in and play that’s what I want. Thanks for the help!
It will. Just be mindful of the connector. This system is best used with the Spektrum Ecosystem.
@@rcdriver the connecter to the battery? I plan to make it deans, or the shaft connection? I’m using the stock radio it comes with for now but will upgrade to the spektrum dx5 later
@@stickmanjoe99 it is essentially an axe. Which you can get in a gen 8 (I have one). It works great. I don't know how well changing plugs will work. I don't know if any data flows through the battery plugs
Woow 👍
It seems to be a repackaged Hobbywing AXE FOC combo + smart features. Hopefully they won't increase the price of the combo too much.
Great system... is there a way to connect two of these ESC to the same receiver and how? Great video brother!
Yeah... you just have to disconnect the power wire from one of the esc's harnesses (the one that looks like a servo wire). You then use a servo y harness and connect them to channel 2.
I imagine it is going to mess with telemetry
What is the best motors for The monster beetle and the Subaru. Brat RC please comment back thank you very much for this video would love to know thank you
Does anyone know if this will fit in a Axial Capra?
How would this combo work with Trx4 Traxx system?
Looks good. Love having more options. I bet the Hobbywing LED program card that comes with the 1080 ESC will probably work also. (It works with my infraction V2 firma ESC) and all my BLX escs. It's most likely a hobby wing rebrand which is definitely not a bad thing. #3 "FOC"
agreed, looks alot like my hobbywing set up.
Build in corporation with leading ESC engineers (H.W.) ha ha! You can read in the Spektrum manual...
@@ka4172 They should replace "in cooperation" with "BY" Not only will it short in the text , it'll technically be more accurate. Unless of course they consider their color choice the "build" portion
Just tried it with the Hobbywing LED program card, doesn't seem to be compatible.
@@TDR-RC That's unfortunate. They may have changed something because my hobby wing LED card works with my spectrum ESC on my infraction V2 and my kraton. Honestly they may have caught wind of it being compatible and change something in the software so consumers would have no choice but to purchase their program card. 😢
What size is the fan? 25mmx25mm?
Hobbywing Axe ftw lol
That's what I've had since it came out. The only time I have to adjust the settings via smartphone is when I add more weight to it. Good to see more products coming out. They can only keep getting better.
If it's included, how is it optional? 🤔 Otherwise awesome video! I always enjoy your videos
Wow pretty loud. Just got the Fusion and you can hear a pin drop while slow crawling.
I need this haha...
What's Happening Captain
Hopefully All's Well
Can I put this in a Axial SCX10 2 Trailblazer??
What's the difference between this and the Foc all in one system?? 😊
no bluetooth, but some paint and smart.
Can I fit this in a TRX-4?
hobbywing makes really good products.
This is a re-branded HW Axe system that comes standard in the Gen 8. only difference is the orange color vs black & the Axe version has better slow end performance from what I hear
Axe based would be correct. Not rebranded, that implies it’s the exact same which it is not. This system has different functionality to it.
Do you prefer this system or the Axe version? I'm kinda debating on one or the other. however I think I noticed the spectrum version you where just testing making a whining noise similar to my Mamba X that drives me crazy. The Hobbywing Axe is Dead Silent which I really like. was I hearing a whine or? what's your opinion on this vs Axe system. Thanks
Should have had shift on the fly brake options for rock racing etc.
I want my crawler to be able to lock, switch into two wheel drive and then do high speed doughnuts like my old Blackfoot... Anything out there like that?
Yea, haven't installed it yet anyway so it is still in the box. They should've added blu-tooth to the Spectrum, that's one thing I like about the Axe, plus it's 3300kv. Everything else I use is already Spectrum, though. Decisions, decisions.
the best thing about axe is the auto drag brake
Will this work with a RUGGED controller or are you stuck with having to buy a PRO 2021?
Rugged will work just fine.
It does seem to be a bit like the hobbywing system
It’s Hobbywing based. But more functionality.
@@rcdriver so would you go with this or a hobbywing? Obviously the hobbywing is less expensive, but is the extra tech worth all of the extra money?
@@bigandcoolrcschool294 This has less IMPORTANT features than the AXE.. Telemetry is crap when you are losing bluetooth, RPM/Throttle setting and charging more for the spektrum name. You need a Spektrum radio to get all the extra features too so if you are not into the whole spektrum ecosystem this is just a crippled more expensive AXE.
Just get the AXE and dont look back.
Hobbywing with a Spektrum tune
Do one on the Traxxas Spartan Please,I have 2 of them,I think it they are Great
czcams.com/video/YWyfdYwcK7M/video.html
@@rcdriver Thanks ps;I love your show
So it’s a rebranded axe system
🤦♂️
That's exactly what this is, right down to the sensor wire. It's just been customized to include some spektrum brand specifics. It's not suprising as Hobbywing appears to be an OEM for ESCs and motors for other brands as well.
Anyone who's into the RC crawler scene can see this from 10 miles away. You can save a few bucks and just get the AXE system. If you're a spektrum eco system RC user then this is for you.
@@JVTechandRC I like how on horizons website they show it I guess installed in a ryft kit even though they haven’t released the ryft kit yet. Horizon is a mess
Yup, it’s OEM’d by Hobbywing but built to Spektrum specs, therefore it’s a Spektrum ESC. The Axe doesn’t have telemetry and can’t be programmed via the radio as the Spektum can. So it’s not just a rebranded Axe. Hobbywing OEM’s for a bunch of companies, but if you call them to repair your Spektrum ESC, they are not going to help you, it’s a Spektrum product.
@@rcdriver you can program the hobbywing esc from your phone by Bluetooth
That price is kind of nuts! I could buy a whole Redcat gen 7 for cheaper than that.
$200 for a sensored motor/esc combo is not that bad. I spent more on my HW drag setup plus another $80 for the wifi module.
does the esc programming work with the DX5C?
If it is updated yes :)
@@SpektrumRCvideos Thanks!
@SpektrumRC same for DX5 Rugged?
@@highlandcrawler yes
what is the connector type for battery and is that a third wire attatched??
that is an IC3 connector that is backwards compatible with the EC3 connection, you just lose the "benefits" of their Smart system while using EC3. that third wire is for Smart telemetry.
@@gasolinediesel972 the ESC has IC3 connectors
@@bansheerider619 On the website it is specified that it has ic5's.
@@gasolinediesel972 no it doesnt it says IC3 go read again....www.spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMXSE1060
@@bansheerider619 They must've changed it because when I first checked it said ic5...
What size is the motor 540 or 550?
it's a rebranded Hobbywing Axe 540L R2 system with Spektrum Smart capability.
@@brknhead so its very long...
Looks Just like the Hobbywing censored motor I just got
I just bought an Axe system. Something told me that if I would just wait, Spectrum would be coming out with a brushless system. Same price to. Oh, well.
I prefer hw anyway all good stuff though
Actually, this is literally a rebranded axe system, so you don't need to replace it.
nice setup. But 259 ouch