Great overview, immediately forwarded that to two friends who just picked up the game :D Btw could you please properly center the ult skull and hp/maxhp counter? It literally induces physical pain having to look at an off center UI for half an hour, k thx
@@ThePartyKnife :D Try to use the Centered Option for Block/Stamina and just lower it down to your HP bar until it overlaps. Had to use that as a measurement to center all of the other settings lmfao
Tzeentch is pronounced just like it is spelled. [TSINTSCH] "Slaneesh is the best" I just love how they nailed the theme with this one. Slaneesh is supposed to lure you in by giving you what you want. The Prince of Chaos is all about indulgence. She who thirsts will not take your soul by force. You will give it to her willingly.
One thing: health buffs stack additively, not multiplicatively. Got +20% and +50% as shade and ended up with 170 (1+0.2+0.5=1.7) not 180 (100*1.5*1.2=180). Edit: Also, regarding blood tornadoes. One thing two of my friends and I realised in a recent run is that it seems like the blood tornadoes have predetermined spawn locations and movement. We were in a tight space on one of the maps and the tornado spawned in the exact same location and moved the exact same path several times in a row. Even as we moved to a position where that spawn would not affect us at all it kept spawning there. Now, that's not too helpful aside from specific situations where you can figure out the spawn and they are still the most obnoxious curse, but figured it was worth adding.
👍 Thanks party knife for hard work, I'm so happy about this expansion, it's so good to see the cataclysm community growing I just wish more people played twitch mode. Fat shark number one👌
I know you apologised for leaving boons out, but I actually think it works really well, in fact you go into so much detail I honestly think you would be better making a bunch of smaller guides for each section, then you can timestamp within them, e.g. each of the gods or potions. Something to maybe consider for future... Keep up the good work!
Imo I think block cost reduction and stamina recovery should be swapped around as block cost is useful for every team composition out there whereas stamina is useful unless there is a handmaiden in the team which makes it a mediocre stat at best, but I agree 100% that crit power should be on the bottom as much as I love my pyro I'll take anything over it.
Jade Censer is really good for last mission : U can activate it really on the beginnning before minions spawn (in last part of last mission i mean) and this effect is so long that its like the full last part. Very easy last mission with this (I play this on Carta most times)
Miracle of Ranald saved our cata runs a couple of times, We had Khorne + hordes + elites and og my god i never throw so much bombs and drink so much pots in the game. I luckily had decanter (and i think its OP in CW) and i was Just permanently invisible throwing bombs with +150% power BH that also lifesteal and heals team with kills. I leggit threw like a hundred bombs that level (and most of them not being from a pot) and drink like 30-40 pots
For me I found out that Handmaiden with Moonfire + S&D seems to be the best over-all combo that will play well without depending on any specific bonuses you can get on map. What is your conclusion for Kerillian? I also kind of like "Boss Delete" Shade build with S&D/D&D and Moonfire and it's again - very independent from extra bonuses you can get.
Handmaiden always stronk! :) As for shade! She is just very very hard to carry through the first couple of maps! Most shade's I have on my team die all the freaking time and I can't really blame them since she does struggle a lot (especially with the boss dmg ulti) early on. But at the same time she can become very powerful towards the end! :)
Had a run last night where i got the duplication boon as well as the jade censer and the potion of endless bombs, as the unchained. We were set from then on lmao
One thing that annoys the heck out of me is the "gain two stamina shields" boon and "+4 stamina" buff. At least be consistent or, even better, use both terms in both places.
This is pretty helpful, kinda wish I didn't go through my own testing now though, as the only new info was morgrims bomb and boon % chances. Hopefully I will get a cata win soon, solo or not!
Yes and no. The % on your weapons only affect the amount of coins you personally get. But you get the extra coins regardless of who picks them up automatically. So no need to worry about that! :)
Yeah I do wish there was a slightly more structured way (perhaps by purchasing it from shrines) to obtain your weapon properties. Anyways thanks for watching!
There are 2 boons I'm almost desperate to see in combination. Increase power by 25% but lose 3hp per swing while above 50% health AND Taking damage gives you guaranteed crits for a short time. And for the crazy synergy add chain lightning to that as well
2 questions: Do Bots get boons? So it is really bad, when a group is near the Citadel and someone joins in, he only has the talents from the previous maps, but no boons and white weapons. In this case i guess it would be better to set the game to private to stick with the bots. And when will we see the first true solos cata chaos waste run from you :)
First I don't think bots gets boons no. Generally speaking I think you should ALWAYS start with a full team! Having people join mid game is essentially setting yourself up for failure since they will be behind on money/power/boons etc. As for the true solo! So far I've died on map 3 a couple of times! XD I will get it eventually haha!
Morgrim bomb on ranger with sigmar’s comet and ranger’s parting gift talent op xD Edit: 4th may. Either I was mistaken and I didn’t have sigmar’s comet or they patched it because I just had a game and it didn’t work big sad 😢
hey m8, thx for the preset-save-file. but which one is the right preset for 1440p. On partyknifenew the carrerskillbar overlaps with a copie of it. would be nice if you safe it as partyknife+date
Not a bad idea! xD Am working on an update since everything was screwed over in the new elf patch and I might also take the time to do setups for different resolutions! :)
Cooldown reduction doesn't directly affect his ultimate since it's a set reduction in the total cooldown time which kinda makes no sense on his ulti. However. Don't hold me up on this cause I haven't done any test on it yet but I would think that cooldown ''Regeneration'' does work. More info may come in upcoming video!
Miracle of Isha bugged my finale map, where I have become immortal but in the downed state. Mob were fighting me(including troll) but no one could pick me up and we lost game when everyone else died which was infuriating, I've lost ~2 hours because of bug.
How can this be the definitive guide when it's not even talking at all about when you should go for weapon upgrade shrines, whether or not random boon shrines are worth it and when you should hold off on them, etc ^^
Because all of that will be in part 2! :D I underestimated how long the video was going to be... Initially I meant to have all of it in one video but it turns out that was just too much for one video! :P
Would love to play V2 Chaos Wastes ... if the new update did not tank my fps from 120 to 40... without a horde ... looking on the flat ground ... and most effects bs options off ...
It doesn't work 100% of the time but if you wait through the loading screen patiently and no one else leaves the game in panic then it should be able migrate the host to someone else and in the worst case scenario you have to start over on the map you had begun. Thankfully you get to keep all the coins you farmed in the run before the host left, which means you actually end up with extra farming opportunities! :P
hey partyknife i used your zealot guide and i love it but i have a hard time with shield rats, my attacks don’t seem to do anything to them (billhook is the weapon im using)
40% crit power is an absolute MUST for a Witch Hunter Captain, especially if used with a guaranteed crit ult. he melts throw bosses in melee like butter, its not even funny just how quickly a troll of a stromfiend go down. Also-Twin Blight is extremely dangerous, and should not be underestimated. Loot rats have a chance to split into two FUCKING RATOGRES. Which can easily mess up a run if he is killed during a wave. Killing two of them at the same time during a wave is not something that can be easily done in a quickplay and a poorly balanced party. Beastmen Bannermen split into two bestigors which start their attack animation almost instantly, which just sucks how much it can hurt.
@@darkweeman133 increasing your damage by 40% under ults is horrible? It isn’t as immidiately useful like attack speed or max hp but it is still very useful.
@@crimsonfists6224 It's not 40%. Vermintide 2 doesn't work that way. Crit power is an increase to a value that is used to calculate the multiplier and gives much worse results. So 20% crit power increase can change the multiplier from 1.75 to 2 or it can change it from 1.25 to 1.3 depending on the weapon.
The thing is. Crit power is calculated based off of the difference between a critical hit and a non critical hit. As an example. If you deal 1k dmg on a strike and that same attack would have done 2k as a critical hit. Then with 40% crit power, your attack would deal +40% of the difference between the 2 numbers on a critical hit. In other words you would now deal 2.400 dmg on a critical hit. The real strength of critical hits on a WHC comes from the executions on headshots. As for the lighting I totally agree it can screw you over hard haha! :D
Working very hard on an extensive guide on all of the different boons, their synergies, viability, class combinations etc!
love the pushback boon- why isnt it in reg play
Great overview, immediately forwarded that to two friends who just picked up the game :D
Btw could you please properly center the ult skull and hp/maxhp counter? It literally induces physical pain having to look at an off center UI for half an hour, k thx
Really looking forward to this. Keep up !
@@nex4613 hahah yeah I know xD trust me it's annoying as hell ... xD
@@ThePartyKnife :D
Try to use the Centered Option for Block/Stamina and just lower it down to your HP bar until it overlaps. Had to use that as a measurement to center all of the other settings lmfao
Tzeentch is pronounced just like it is spelled. [TSINTSCH]
"Slaneesh is the best" I just love how they nailed the theme with this one. Slaneesh is supposed to lure you in by giving you what you want. The Prince of Chaos is all about indulgence. She who thirsts will not take your soul by force. You will give it to her willingly.
Apologies but I still have no idea how to say: TSINTSCH xDDDD But I agree on the Slaaanesh and thanks for watching my friend! :)
@@ThePartyKnife there ya go: czcams.com/video/44X_6vOSEPg/video.html
In cathay it's pronounced chi'an chi... I'd pronounce it however seems natural to you, the chaos gods have many names.
@@ThePartyKnife I just call him Tit Snitch. Not correct but funny.
hehe "she", "her"
As an added bonus, bots will stand still inside blood tornados.
haha yeah bots are morons in the chaos wastes xD
Prosthetic Strike *Sekiro has entered the chat*
Yeah I was very tired when I recorded that bit xDDDDDD
Good vid :) the structure and coherence of your videos are alot better than they were!
Aww why thank you very much! :)
I always pronounced tzeentch as "zeench". But I guess as a god of change any way to pronounce it is both right and wrong at the same time.
Big brain right there! :D
This intro is incredibly stupid and I love it. Cheers from Stockholm.
Aww why thank you very much my swedish brother! :D REALLY hoping you guys are gonna allow dreamhack to go through this winter! :P
One thing: health buffs stack additively, not multiplicatively. Got +20% and +50% as shade and ended up with 170 (1+0.2+0.5=1.7) not 180 (100*1.5*1.2=180).
Edit: Also, regarding blood tornadoes. One thing two of my friends and I realised in a recent run is that it seems like the blood tornadoes have predetermined spawn locations and movement. We were in a tight space on one of the maps and the tornado spawned in the exact same location and moved the exact same path several times in a row. Even as we moved to a position where that spawn would not affect us at all it kept spawning there. Now, that's not too helpful aside from specific situations where you can figure out the spawn and they are still the most obnoxious curse, but figured it was worth adding.
Regarding the health that was changed in a later patch! At time I made this video it was stacking multiplicatively with itself! ;)
@@ThePartyKnife Ah, makes sense.
Love the vids by the way, keep it up!
GK can spawn in strength pots with kill talent btw.
He can yes but unfortunately they don't do anything! :D You can drink them but you don't get the buff! :P
👍 Thanks party knife for hard work, I'm so happy about this expansion, it's so good to see the cataclysm community growing I just wish more people played twitch mode. Fat shark number one👌
Agreed! :) And thanks for watching my friend!
ah yes the Slanesh coin farm. I remember my team got like 1k5 coins in 1 map and spent like mad in the next shrine. 🤣🤣
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BEARDED HYDROGEN BOMB!!!
:D
I know you apologised for leaving boons out, but I actually think it works really well, in fact you go into so much detail I honestly think you would be better making a bunch of smaller guides for each section, then you can timestamp within them, e.g. each of the gods or potions. Something to maybe consider for future... Keep up the good work!
These intros getting better and better !
Haha thanks! :D
Imo I think block cost reduction and stamina recovery should be swapped around as block cost is useful for every team composition out there whereas stamina is useful unless there is a handmaiden in the team which makes it a mediocre stat at best, but I agree 100% that crit power should be on the bottom as much as I love my pyro I'll take anything over it.
Fair enough! :D
Jade Censer is really good for last mission : U can activate it really on the beginnning before minions spawn (in last part of last mission i mean) and this effect is so long that its like the full last part. Very easy last mission with this (I play this on Carta most times)
Miracle of Ranald saved our cata runs a couple of times, We had Khorne + hordes + elites and og my god i never throw so much bombs and drink so much pots in the game. I luckily had decanter (and i think its OP in CW) and i was Just permanently invisible throwing bombs with +150% power BH that also lifesteal and heals team with kills.
I leggit threw like a hundred bombs that level (and most of them not being from a pot) and drink like 30-40 pots
Yeah i agree with you. Especially getting potion of endless bomb.
That intro was amazing
For me I found out that Handmaiden with Moonfire + S&D seems to be the best over-all combo that will play well without depending on any specific bonuses you can get on map. What is your conclusion for Kerillian? I also kind of like "Boss Delete" Shade build with S&D/D&D and Moonfire and it's again - very independent from extra bonuses you can get.
Handmaiden always stronk! :) As for shade! She is just very very hard to carry through the first couple of maps! Most shade's I have on my team die all the freaking time and I can't really blame them since she does struggle a lot (especially with the boss dmg ulti) early on. But at the same time she can become very powerful towards the end! :)
@@ThePartyKnifeSo whos your fav for Chaos Wastes. My vote is for Handmainden and WHC with rapier/bop and Deathknell
Had a run last night where i got the duplication boon as well as the jade censer and the potion of endless bombs, as the unchained. We were set from then on lmao
I hate those fucking blood tornados too. They just move too damn fast and suck too much hp if you get caught
God daym blood tornados haha! :D
One thing that annoys the heck out of me is the "gain two stamina shields" boon and "+4 stamina" buff. At least be consistent or, even better, use both terms in both places.
YES! XD It's no anoying when they do that haha :D
This is pretty helpful, kinda wish I didn't go through my own testing now though, as the only new info was morgrims bomb and boon % chances. Hopefully I will get a cata win soon, solo or not!
My Question : Do pilgrim coins on weapon are only for urself ? Only by picking up coins self ?
Yes and no. The % on your weapons only affect the amount of coins you personally get. But you get the extra coins regardless of who picks them up automatically. So no need to worry about that! :)
@@ThePartyKnife Thank u for the quick answer
POTION OF PROSTHETIC STRIKE.
INDEED XD
awesome intro
now I wanna play Wc3 again xD
Awww thanks! :D
Warcraft 3? That's where it's from
It's a shame that if you require scrounger on your ranged character, the chance of getting it is almost zero.
Yeah I do wish there was a slightly more structured way (perhaps by purchasing it from shrines) to obtain your weapon properties. Anyways thanks for watching!
There are 2 boons I'm almost desperate to see in combination.
Increase power by 25% but lose 3hp per swing while above 50% health
AND
Taking damage gives you guaranteed crits for a short time.
And for the crazy synergy add chain lightning to that as well
how did zeech become tahyeehee
24:05 got ya bois, don't worry xs
xDDDDDD
awesome!
Just like you! :)
10:46
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY POOR EARS!!
Sorry not sorry get over it
2 questions: Do Bots get boons? So it is really bad, when a group is near the Citadel and someone joins in, he only has the talents from the previous maps, but no boons and white weapons. In this case i guess it would be better to set the game to private to stick with the bots. And when will we see the first true solos cata chaos waste run from you :)
First I don't think bots gets boons no. Generally speaking I think you should ALWAYS start with a full team! Having people join mid game is essentially setting yourself up for failure since they will be behind on money/power/boons etc. As for the true solo! So far I've died on map 3 a couple of times! XD I will get it eventually haha!
Morgrim bomb on ranger with sigmar’s comet and ranger’s parting gift talent op xD
Edit: 4th may. Either I was mistaken and I didn’t have sigmar’s comet or they patched it because I just had a game and it didn’t work big sad 😢
haha indeed!: D
Anyone ever notice PK has suspiciously Skaven attributes...
Hahahahaha
hey m8, thx for the preset-save-file. but which one is the right preset for 1440p. On partyknifenew the carrerskillbar overlaps with a copie of it. would be nice if you safe it as partyknife+date
Not a bad idea! xD Am working on an update since everything was screwed over in the new elf patch and I might also take the time to do setups for different resolutions! :)
@@ThePartyKnife thx m8
Breaking news: local knife man does not know what the letter Z is, loses his mind trying to pronounce it.
lols xD
Also unquenchable thirst, think bardins alchohol counts probably.
Does the cooldown reduction work on outcats engineer?
Cooldown reduction doesn't directly affect his ultimate since it's a set reduction in the total cooldown time which kinda makes no sense on his ulti. However. Don't hold me up on this cause I haven't done any test on it yet but I would think that cooldown ''Regeneration'' does work. More info may come in upcoming video!
Yay!
Crit Power is very good If you get 100% crit all the time🤣
This guide is extremely helpful!
I've shown alot of people this video to help them understand CW better :)
Very nice work man! Keep it up!
1:01 😳
So its just me and my buddy who loves miracle of shalya? Maybe we just suck thats why we need all the survivability in legend difficulty.
Farming glory of greed me an my friends have finished first map with 5k coins. Slanaash naughty
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Hi, Nice video as Always! I have juste a question about mods because personnaly i can't anymore play using mods. I Saw you Can.. how? Thx
There are certain mods that are still broken and can screw you over. But the UI mods for the most part are still functional! :)
Miracle of Isha bugged my finale map, where I have become immortal but in the downed state. Mob were fighting me(including troll) but no one could pick me up and we lost game when everyone else died which was infuriating, I've lost ~2 hours because of bug.
I was just b****ing to myself that this video didn't exist...welp
Hahaha thanks! :D
How can this be the definitive guide when it's not even talking at all about when you should go for weapon upgrade shrines, whether or not random boon shrines are worth it and when you should hold off on them, etc ^^
Because all of that will be in part 2! :D I underestimated how long the video was going to be... Initially I meant to have all of it in one video but it turns out that was just too much for one video! :P
@@ThePartyKnife You are forgiven ;D
Would love to play V2 Chaos Wastes ... if the new update did not tank my fps from 120 to 40... without a horde ... looking on the flat ground ... and most effects bs options off ...
Sorry to hear that :(((
I pronounce Tzeentch as "Tz-EE (as in "spleen")-n-tch"
Fitting that they're the one with the least intuitive name.
if the host leave will you have to redo the whole thing?
It doesn't work 100% of the time but if you wait through the loading screen patiently and no one else leaves the game in panic then it should be able migrate the host to someone else and in the worst case scenario you have to start over on the map you had begun. Thankfully you get to keep all the coins you farmed in the run before the host left, which means you actually end up with extra farming opportunities! :P
prostetic strike
Yeah I know xD Kinda funny though in retrospec haha
hey partyknife i used your zealot guide and i love it but i have a hard time with shield rats, my attacks don’t seem to do anything to them (billhook is the weapon im using)
z_inch
xDDD
40% crit power is an absolute MUST for a Witch Hunter Captain, especially if used with a guaranteed crit ult.
he melts throw bosses in melee like butter, its not even funny just how quickly a troll of a stromfiend go down.
Also-Twin Blight is extremely dangerous, and should not be underestimated. Loot rats have a chance to split into two FUCKING RATOGRES.
Which can easily mess up a run if he is killed during a wave. Killing two of them at the same time during a wave is not something that can be easily done in a quickplay and a poorly balanced party. Beastmen Bannermen split into two bestigors which start their attack animation almost instantly, which just sucks how much it can hurt.
Crit power is horrible. Almost anything is better than crit power, even if you have shade/whc in your comp.
@@darkweeman133 increasing your damage by 40% under ults is horrible? It isn’t as immidiately useful like attack speed or max hp but it is still very useful.
@@crimsonfists6224 It's not 40%. Vermintide 2 doesn't work that way. Crit power is an increase to a value that is used to calculate the multiplier and gives much worse results. So 20% crit power increase can change the multiplier from 1.75 to 2 or it can change it from 1.25 to 1.3 depending on the weapon.
The thing is. Crit power is calculated based off of the difference between a critical hit and a non critical hit. As an example. If you deal 1k dmg on a strike and that same attack would have done 2k as a critical hit. Then with 40% crit power, your attack would deal +40% of the difference between the 2 numbers on a critical hit. In other words you would now deal 2.400 dmg on a critical hit. The real strength of critical hits on a WHC comes from the executions on headshots. As for the lighting I totally agree it can screw you over hard haha! :D
Middle aged man
why do you have a katana?
he got tired of knives, moving to "study the blade"
Because I bought one on a vacation one time :D
all ur intros are so cringe I cant recommend ur good, informative stuff to friends. Sry but i hoped i helped
hahaha xD
Listen to a audio book for prnounciation ... zeench
Katana new dlc weapon leak?? Omg
hahaha lets hope so! XD
your level properties are so warped lol. Crit power and chance at the top, especially if you are gonna bring a bounty hunter or going for tempest.
Wow went through life mispronouncing tzeentch.. prefers tpks
How the fuck do you get “taihegen” from the word “tzeentch”
Its pronounced like its spelled, zeench (zēn-ch)