ThyssenKrupp unveils the world’s first sideways-moving elevator system
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2017
- The world's first fully functional rope-less, horizontal-vertical elevator system has been installed at a purpose-built innovation test tower in Rottweil, Germany.
Called Multi, the groundbreaking system has been developed by German elevator manufacturer ThyssenKrupp and was first previewed on Dezeen in December 2014.
The design features multiple magnetised cabins that operate in the same shaft on an electromagnetic track.
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For years I’ve been having recurring dreams about horizontally moving elevators...finally decided to google it and wow they’re real!
ive also been having reccurinf dreams anout horizontally moving elevators! honestly for a while i was convinced i had been on one because of these dreams
I will call them real when I have to explain my boss that the elevator got stock moving from tower a to tower b
So I wasn't the only one to dream about them.
You are literally tom scott
I dreamt about it last night, too. And here we are 😅
Engineering structure is so beautiful, i hope they implement clear window on the elevator.
Same here.
For years I have been dreaming and asking myself "what if lateral elevators exist". This morning I decided to check this on YT and behold.
As A Thyssenkrupp Service Tech I must say that this is a thing that should not be. We have enough troubles with the ones that simply go up and down,
As a KONE technician, I agree with every word you said. Imagine the maintenance. Imagine the breakdowns due to minor safety system flukes. Imagine what you need to do if one of those cars trips the overspeed governor and the e-brake grabs... Please, don't build this. This is the stuff of my nightmares.
The first ones in the Us are going on my route in Atlanta.
@@Rajathon oh boy, i feel sorry for you.
Darth PuffMaN Every new invention is going to have problems but we need to build the future.
Darth PuffMaN Why? This is a good thing.
This made me think more of turbolifts from Star Trek....that got me excited
Buildings that install this should have viewing windows like this at ground level. Be cool to see while waiting to use the elevator lol
Am I the only one thinking of Charlie and the chocolate factory
it's the harry potter elevator :)
No, it's more like the 'Turbolift' from StarTrek ;)
Those are called wonkavators
nope
contractors these days would never be able to meet the structural precision this install will require
I just had a horrible nightmare about these things. Didn't even know they made elevators that move sideways until I just googled it. There where I think 6 or 7 of us in the cart. Our elevator had windows in it that we can see the mechanical components of it and it looked like this.but the buttons were big and clunky to pick what floor you wanted. We where going from the second floor to the 9th and from basically on end of the building to the other. And somewhere in between the cart broke and it lost its momentum and kinda threw us up and then started falling. I couldn't find the emergency key to stop the cart after yelling at the person next to the emergency switch to do it. But she was frozen in fear. We where all about to die and I woke up. And it sucked too because I was flirting it up with the person next to me and she was cute. But personally the windows on it made it go from really cool to extremely terrifying real quick.
These things were part of my dreams years ago. I would get in one and end up in another place that i didn't recognize.
Sería excelente tener un ascensor horizontal en algunos edificios o rascacielos en Chile, que facilita el traslado a las personas discapacitadas, sin tener que ir en escalera. Te felicito y excelente.
Maybe it will breakdown every week like the one in our building! (even 10 years later now)
looks critical installation and maintenance side.
This should be called a multivator instead of an elevator.
Convention centers should invest in horizontal elevators
Sell this to Toronto City Hall in Ontario, Canada it has two towers , what a great way to get around from tower to tower .
Interesting technology! What about its safety features?
Супер! Это круто! Тиссенкрупп - мы лучшие!👍🏻
These elevators are being tested, but when will these elevators become a reality and when will these be installed worldwide? They can even change how buildings and structures are built, as well as rapid transit stations, such as a bridge over two tracks, where instead of 2 elevators, there would only need to be one.
I think 2019 in Berlin a building with one of these will be built.
@@rainunduswingulus9641 yes you're right 2019 to 2020 it should be installed
@bouke Kalkwijk they are 3-5 times more expensive than a normal elevator, because they can go sideways and they are rope less
There is a vertical elevator in Narita airport in Japan
@@Ritaaw1 I think you meant to say horizontal. All elevators today are vertical.
It is good idea for skyscraper - at one line lifts moves only up and at other line lifts moves only down. I think it will reduce waiting time
Awesome idea!
어마어마 합니다.
Tolles Spielzeug
En hoe zit het met het milieu en de CO2 footprint? Gebouwen hoeven niet zo hoog te zijn, Toch? Ik zie wel mogelijkheden voor dit systeem, maar dan met lagere hoogbouw. Een 3 dimensionaal raster van balken met daktuinen en niet een paar bloempotten met plantjes op de gang, naast de liftdeuren.
Looks great, but the speed to way too slow than the regular one in civilian use. the advantage of this is it can overcome the latitude of the evelator tunnels.
Awewsome german elevator
The paternoster was the worlds first lift to go sideways
Remember when elevators had doors that could open on both sides?
Still that elevator exist
why shouldnt that be possible? it can have, technically, 3 sides with doors, i guess
@@SkyGamer911 with 3 sides where will all the doors go when open?
@@akashshrivastava5286 It will never be this one.
The problem with this system is that it's massively too complicated, "What Can't go wrong?"
Really, this will never be more than a fad unless it can be simplified and made so that even with little maintenance it will continue to function for several years.
It's mainly why you want Russia to develop a technology rather than Germany. Germany will make something amazing and precise, but it will cost a lot and when it breaks down IT BREAKS DOWN.
Meanwhile Russia rarely invents anything, but when they get their hand on something they don't make it so it never breaks, they just make it so it's dead easy to fix.
Look up the Heckler and Koch G11 prototype assault rifle on youtube, a hyper advanced design frm the late 1980s featuring caseless ammunition. Hilariously its inner workings actually look a lot like this elevator. Of course for the same reason it never went into service, while the AK47 is still in use 70+ years after its creation.
at least china isn't making it.
@@jdg9999 Well, the AK47 Design was loosely based off of the STG 44 rifle.... While this elevator is complicated at this time, every aspect of this is a prototype as of now, so eventually most aspects will be re-iterated and improved or simplified.
There is a difference between copying and inventing. Yes, some countries just need it so everyone 🤪 can fix it.
@@predatortheme Absolutely incorrect. Most battle/assault rifles from the period had a similar wood and steel look, doesn't mean it's based off it. The AK is based off the M1 Garand, an already simple design made even simpler with the AK. The STG is much more similar to the G3, with a complex roller delay system. People still use the AK, while most people are ditching the G3, which, while robust and reliable, is much more difficult to repair/maintain.
Awesome :D
The elevator in the movie can fly LOL
А эта система, хоть в паре каких-либо зданий установлена? Много лет ведь прошло... :)
The Bank Of The West at Fargo, ND should have this new system, but the building is 12 Stories high, and only two elevators are close together. The third elevator is other side of the other two elevators, and there is no elevator close to the that one.
It is the best in elevator engineering
I have a question? What happens to the traveling cable ? Does it work with data bus on a rail ?
Martin Lavoie It’s cable free.
If they were smart they would use a frequency based system like Garaventa uses and just add redundancy for reliability.
Interior plz
The concept of a sideways elevator is actually really cool. The engineering in this design seems waaaaay too complex and the sideways movement way too simplistic to be of any real value. Maybe I'm missing something. What I envision is something that could move rapidly over the distance of up to several miles (like a people mover) but then when it gets to where it's going, be able to move a short distance down a shaft so that people can unload at "street" or lobby level rather than in a dedicated station that then requires going up or down stairs, escelators, or vertical only elevators to get to your destination. Such a system would allow high capacity subway systems to make fewer stops, allowing them to have better end to end overall speed, and fewer stations to maintain.
It would also mean subway stations could have greater "reach," that is, instead of having to take a bus or walk to the station, you could board a sideways elevator several blocks (or farther) away from the station, boarding directly from street level, and be whisked directly to the train platform at the station. This would require short vertical movement at the point of origin and destination, and faster horizontal movement along a track of some sort.
A geared system could provide the vertical movement, rather than a linear induction motor.
The engineering is insane
it's a prototype installed in a structure built purely to test and develop this design. It uses magnets for propulsion - essentially a maglev drive - and they're still working out the design, but it allows running multiple elevators in each shaft. They have said themselves very recently that it's still too early to talk about how safe and reliable the system is. The complexity is there for safety; you want those rotating tracks to line up 100% correct every time or you risk derailing the elevators. What you're clearly missing is that it's an elevator, primarily meant to move people up and down in a building, and since it's meant for people standing up you cannot have any rapid sideways movement.
Your vision is based on fantasy, but someone already dreamed up the concept - they used it in Minority Report where people's personal vehicles drive up the side of buildings and replaces elevators. No one has any idea how it would work, by the way, as we currently have no system that would allow it to function in any kind of safe manner
@@thesteelrodent1796 Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I recognize that my "fantasy" doesn't exist in reality... yet, but it would help solve a few of the bigger issues with mass transit as we know it. I like to think in terms of what it would take to solve problems rather than just say it can't be done. If you want to pursue that direction, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts. Thanks!
А по диагонали могут?
Can someone please explain to me where the power to drive these elevators comes from? Are they run on a battery? The electric motor that pulls the steel cable up and down is obsolete in this case so how has the drive force from the electric motor been replaced in this scenario?
Iskra Tano linear electric motors.
it's basically maglev technology. The tracks "push" the elevators along the track.
Why use linear induction motors as opposed to rack and pinions?
fewer moving parts makes it more reliable and requires less maintenance.
The thing what if the power goes out in the building? Or does the elevator have e brakes on it
what elevator *doesn't* have emergency brakes? Of course this will have them.
I'm guessing they will have an alternative power source, enough to get the passenger to the next station and then shut down?
By the time and the gear ittakes would be better to have a door conecting another loft this one made only for horizontal travel
Vallahi bravo :)
What is happening with this project?
Like Star Trek turbolift
Molto bello e sofisticato ma zeppo di tettagli meccanici e elettronici che nel tempo lo rendono potenzialmente ricco di problemi legati al cicli di vita dei sistemi. .inoltre che succede in caso di una fulminata dovuta ad un temporale ?...
Wait a sec is this the thyssenkrupp tower in Rottweil (germany)?
yup
Wait...Thomas the train was rebuilt in an elevator 😱😱😱
poor Thomas 😢😢😢
The fact that it has those rotating puck things is a big no no, it means that if the alinement is ever off you either have a massive crash or the whole thing shuts down and waits for a complex and expensive repair.
in their concept animation they have multiple turnover points, so in theory it should be able to cross over somewhere else if one breaks down
@@thesteelrodent1796 Well yes in theory, but if roller coasters are anything to go by, if a single sensor (one of thousands) is giving an unexpected result, it shuts the entire system down regardless of what could still continue to operate because the sensor may only be concerned with a specific part that is unlikely to be a big deal. Hopefully they would have designed this elevator system to continue to work even if there are a lot of errors in parts that can be avoided, or don't matter, but I doubt it, I can imagine that if there is one error it just shuts everything down.
ich bin ein deutscher arbeite in Kanada wie ein aufzug mehanik
was soll es eigentlich ändern
änderungen kom in vielleicht in 20 yahren
How does a service tech access the car if its broken down halfway horizontal? At least with ropes you can slide down or climb up them 😂
This one can move up, down, and sideways. But it can't move in 3d dimensions, such as back and forth, diagonally, or rotate.
Why should a elevator rotate and run diagonal.
It was at this moment….., the company was split sold and renamed.
The way I see this, first: Its pretty damn cool. But second: Its not at all as energy efficient as today's "normal" elevators, who always have counterweights. Will the energy consumption from this actually be redeemed?
You can make them with counter weights as well if you create a pulley system. It’s in its early stages I bet once larger scale apartment buildings become more of a things these will be simplified and made more efficient
@@ligitmuffin The only buildings you would need these in are large skyscrapers, they aren't justifiable in any building under 25 floors, there just isn't the demand.
@@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 height isn’t the question the number of floors doesn’t matter if it goes sideways... it’s the length
@@ligitmuffin These are rope-less elevators. How are you going to make a pulley system and still be rope-less?
@@darkchild4neverever being ripe less is not what I’m addressing that doesn’t matter. The horizontal aspect is what I care about
Aren't moving walkways already there to move horizontally?
Yes but they don't elevate
It kinda worries me - what if there’s a bit of a bump?!?!
what kind of bump? how would a bump get there anyway?
Seen on Tom Scott's channel.
Sorry for the dumb question, but why do we need elevators that move sideways for?
Mk3 Handicapped
Thank you for answering.
and with this you can have more capsels
see this: czcams.com/video/E7QlAsxJP-g/video.htmlm41s
Thank you very much, it made much more sense to me after watching it in action...
:D
For special purpose.
Security, hospital usage, for special layer.
I have to go down, I'll bring Swiss chocolate @spacex
Which country
Germany.
Sideways elevator is called walking.
That is a Piggy HQ.
This is definiately a computer animation. Is there really a working test system ? I hope so, but I am not at all convinced that this is genuine footage of a working system
Its real. go watch the video Tom Scott made
this is the real system. Thyssen built an entire high rise just to be able to test it
But can a Martian fit inside it?
Disney beat them by 20 years. Also disney has replicated their design in 6 places and they are all still in operation.
How many people are here because of a dream they had? 🙋♂️
Thats good but my thoughts it shoud make simple and easy with my technique
C’mon it’s not the first. There is an old one in Italy, built decades ago ant still perfectly working. Of course this one is more modern, nevertheless not a new thing.
I have been in this industry more than decade, this is un applicable in real world condition..
Our technicians every year took out tens of dead pets, rats, bicycles and domestic garbage..
The only place for this elevator is a futuristic space town 😅😅😅
Manutenção complicada!
Willy Wonka had the first lol jk
A project whose development will have cost billions and will probably NEVER be refinanced. A product for which there is almost no demand. A product that you will never make money with. It's not for nothing that Thyssen is in the precarious position it is today...
i have been local 3 for 32 years and seen alot of crap out there by all diff companys. this thing looks cool and fancy but what a fucking nightmare it looks like to work on, forget that crap ill take a cable system anyday !
Nah, this sucks, as an engineer I think this sucks. The problem with elevators is that they are too slow and this shit looks even slower.
dont need this!!! lors time
Nicolas Crimon Actually it is needed as people need to make taller buildings.
too slow and too complicated, stupid idea,
Buildings must not get higher and higher. This system seems not sustaineble to me. However it looks good for Trump's reopened steelfactories.
Case K Why not get higher?
The biggest stupid idea ever in all my life!
haha
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