#38 Can you remove a tree stump with a compact tractor? Kubota B2601 with the LA435 front end loader
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- Can you remove a tree stump with a compact tractor and no backhoe? Watch and see. The short answer is, "yes". The long answer is, "It's a lot of work and takes a long time!" The Kubota B2601 performs well, but this project really pushes its limits. This is really a job for a backhoe or a larger tractor, but if you take your time, you can do it.
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Thanks for the video. I will have lots of stumps soon. You convinced me to get a bigger tractor with a backhoe. I can show this to the wife if she squawks.
Glad I could help :)
I know the feeling of taking on a job with the tools I have, even if they are not the right tool for the job. My project was to dig under my cabin to put in a foundation and all new floor joists. My B2100 with the LA301 loader took me 2 years to dig out an area about 30x30x6 feet deep. I didn't realize when I first started how much dirt and rocks I would be removing. I had to remove the roll bar so I could fit under the cabin. Finally got it done this fall. Blew a couple hoses, had 2 cylinders repacked. she just turned over 3000 hours, brought her home to give her some attention, fix some leaks, and a little TLC. Still running strong.
Back-dragging a bucket over those roots is a great way to blow a cylinder.
Why?
Renting a 3pt stump grinder would would save some time and a lot of wear and tear on the tractor if you have a local rental shop. You really made a lot of progress with that bucket though and looks like you got to have some fun in the process! Good stuff, I love how much you can do with a tractor.
You showed me a lot by getting that stump out. I have the same tractor and loader and never thought I’d be able to do that. Thank you so much for the video!
Not the best way to do it, but it works. Thanks for watching.
I can't be the only one getting a Mr Rodgers vibe here.
👍👍👍
You’re not alone. I’ve heard it before and thank you for the compliment. 😄
I honestly didn’t think you would get it
Great job
Your video really helped. After watching I have removed several large stumps with your technique.
Suggestion - take a 55 gallon barrel or something similar. Cut out both ends and stand over the stump with some bricks or rock under the lower edge. You’re building a stack or chimney with a space for air to enter at bottom. Build a fire inside with the intent to build up six inches or so off hot coals which you maintain over the course of the day. Screen door or rabbit wire over the top keeps sparks down. Let it cook over a few days. It will eventually consume the stump and follow the major roots for several feet. You can shut down the process with a garden hose at any time. A bucket of dirt fills in the hole. I successfully removed stumps even near structures because the stack sends the heat straight up and controls any spread. Wet down the surrounding ground or objects you want to protect. Leave a sprinkler running?
This is something I'll have to give a try.
I put some pipe of bbq charcoal on a pine stump. Was about to burn it now level with the ground.
Great video man, awesome demonstration of the power of these little tractors. I did a video digging a stump out with my Kubota bx.. it did a great job.. took awhile but it got the job done. Like you said it’s not something you’d wanna do everyday but if it needs to be done it certainly can be. Thanks for the video 👍🏻
Ih you plan on removing stump with anything cut them at waist height. Whether pulling with a tractor,truck or backhoe makes it so much simpler. If not using a backhoe use a bucket or garden hose to soak area or wait until a good rain will also make it easier.
I ponied up for the backhoe on my B2601. Expensive but I figured I'd get a lot of it back if I ever sell it. Makes stump removal a no brainer and I had cause to dig a 300' drainage trench across the yard. Sure made it nice. Love your channel.
Oh and definitely get a piranha tooth bar. Best accessory that I've purchased.
Thanks so much I know I’d find plenty of uses if I had one! -Ed
@Dave Edwards have you come across any limitations of the BH70 backhoe? I also ordered it for my B2601. It hasn't come in yet, but I plan on digging out a lot of stumps and rocks with it
Been enjoying your videos, you help me with my decision. Yep B2601 should be getting it next week.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Very nice! Congratulations and thanks for watching! -Ed
Reminds me of my culvert installation video
Would have been a breeze with a backhoe but you get by with what ya got.
Persistence pays off 😂
best laugh i have had for months please put some more on !!!!!
You were patient 👍🏻, one down one to go, good luck 👍🏻
Use your box scrapper and rippers. That will loosen the soil and many roots then remove remaining soil with your bucket.
That’s exactly what I was going to say!
I'll say no on that ..... I did that a few years ago and hung up on an arm ... I was in low and with the force I bent one of the rear arms ... it wasn't a huge root either but I'm told by the dealer it happens more than you think ... cost me couple hundred to fix
Good evening Sir 😉 Slowly but surly everybody with faite and a tractor can move a mountain 😉👍 Keep up the good work Sir and enjoy that warm weather Sir Cheers !!!
I am getting a JD 3025E but I still learn for you and your kubota. Good show. Richard in Picayune, MS
Hi Richard. Great choice. Thanks for watching. -Ed
Use ONE box blade ripper.
Then drive by the stump, moving closer each pass.
Cut the roots a few times.
Then hook the stump with the middle (2 if you don't have a centered ripper) and pull while lifting.
Your 3 point is stronger than your loader!
It will take out some pretty good size stumps... but it won't get as many as a backhoe and an excavator can get even more.
You can bend the loader frame trying to pop stumps with the corner of the bucket.
DO NOT RAM THE STUMP WITH THE LOADER!
Yo are going to bend the loader frame.
Tough work when you can get it right? Good determination and victory!
I’ll admit I’m impressed that you got it out that way. That looked like hard work. But if you keep pulling stumps out that way you’ll be heading back to your dealer for another bent loader frame. I use my sawzall and just buy long blades and bury them in the ground and cut the roots. Blades are cheap compared to fixing your tractor.
Smart idea. I’m definitely not over stressing that loader like the previous issue did. I’m fully aware of the limitations now, but it’s a tough machine. Thanks for watching and for the idea!
Milwaukee makes some pruning blades that work great for this.
That's the strategy I use, a couple cheap freight blades in my cheap freight sawzall to cut main roots when the tree is dropped. The stump rots in no time.
Wow! Determination
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...
Great vid, a Piranha tooth bar is a must for these projects, easy to install, affordable, and haven't broken mine yet. Great job!
Thanks Mike. I definitely would like a tooth bar!
The more I use my FEL (I've got only about 100 hours on the tractor now) the more I realize it's really light weight and would easily be broken. FE Loader, not Pusher, and especially not Puller. Learned a lot from your videos, thanks.
Nice 2601 and great job clearing with what you have. Someday I’ll have to post like videos and root pulling I have. Take care!
Determination! Good job in the editing and camera shots, Ed.
Thanks so much, Larry C!
I have a BX2380. No back hoe. I was having problems getting stumps out. All different sizes. Saw Biff's Equipment CZcams channel. He had a Artillian Pallet fork frame with a front hoe attachment. Cost a few bucks but did the job very very quickly. The cost was worth the time saved. To make the investment worth it I got some pallet forks the the Artillian Pallet fork frame. Incidentally the Antillean set up has sectional grapples too. I have a land pride grapple that came with my BX2380. Good video.
Thanks Earl. Much appreciated! -Ed
I've done similar things with my tractor. I put the rippers down on my box blade and ripped it up first. Every now and then a ripper would get under a root and bring me to a screeching halt. I like a challenge. Awesome video.
Did the same but bent the arm on the rear on a root... never again...
Nice work! Great camara work!
Interesting technique, to shave the roots.
I use a reciprocating saw with demolition blades, to cut roots. It helps speed the process.
Great idea on "shaving" the root. I've got 4 white pine stumps I left and said the same thing. "They'll rot and soften up in a couple years" 🚫 I left them 4 foot high though so I'll have a little leverage. Thanks for the video.
Thanks very much. Definitely a good idea leaning taller stumps for leverage. Good luck, and be careful! -Ed
Glad I have the backhoe.... I like my backhoe it gets me out when I'm stuck and also good for counter weight ....
You don’t need a backhoe to get unstuck the FEL works the same way
Good job
Try using the rippers on your box blade to loosen the dirt before you dig.. awesome job and another great video..
Get yourself a set of forks, loosen up the ground around it breaking the smaller roots. It’s a lot less ground damage to repair.
Been there done that. I saw another CZcams video where the guy used a reciprocating saw and cut all the roots first. I tried that and it really helped. My stumps were old and I thought they would just pop out but no, they put up a fight. I have a couple of more stumps to remove and I am going to do the same thing. This time, I am going to drill deep holes in the stump in hopes that while I am digging, that the stump would split. Thanks for the video. It was a lot of work but you did a fine job. 😣😣😣😮😮😮😁😁😀😀
Just bought the same tractor and similarly decided against purchasing the backhoe since it was gonna cost me close to 40k 🤦♂️. While I do have plenty of stumps to remove, small and large, I do remember the Kubota dealer specifically mentioning that these smaller tractors can easily get damaged when removing larger stumps. It takes a toll on the hydraulics…but I see a lot of people doing it and pushing they’re compacts to the limit.
The stump bucket works well for small stumps and shrubs. But I wouldn’t recommend it for sumps larger that 4 inches unless they are well rotted.
There are times I wish I had bought a backhoe for my tractor. I might have used the box blade with the tines all the way down at least a few swipes. I hand dug around a live oak tree stump and cleaned in between the roots. Then with a bow saw cut off the roots, hooked a heavy chain around , drug it out.
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Great video
Thanks very much!
Patience & Persistence.
I have the same size tractor and this is how I dig out stumps. As others have said the tooth bar makes all the difference in the world and helps cut roots. It does leave a HUGE hole!
Yes that tooth bar sounds good! Thanks for watching. -Ed
Okay…I had confidence that EVENTUALLY you would get it BUT, that was when I thought you would be able to dig all the way around the stump! When you said you had to do it from one side, I never thought you’d do it!! Impressed is right!! But it still would have been worth that backhoe!!🤣😁👊🏻
I have a stump bucket now. Much handier, but still nothing like a backhoe! Thanks!
Hi you have a box blade drop the teeth down drag a few times. It will bust up the clay and rip the roots out. Then use the bucket along with dragging the box spreader . I like your videos your entertaining to watch. I’ve just bought my B 2650 two weeks ago. I’ve learned a lot from all your guys on CZcams!!!
Thanks so much and congrats on the B2650!
Lots of fun your ground is a tough one A tooth bar may help and old set of forks (ones you dont care to bend) and a scroll saw have fun
One of the reasons I bury my pets on the edge of my land away from big old trees. But, thanks for showing us it can be done with a compact tractor loader. I am about to do the same with a TYM T264.
Sub soiler attachment is about $200 from Tractor Supply and might find one for $100 on Market Place. Use it like you would a single shank ripper on a dozer.
Nice job!
Thanks!
That right there is exactly why I took the extra step and went in more Debt with another payment to get the bh77 backhoe.. and it is worth its weight in gold used it multiple times here plus side jobs.... it was tough but you got her
I would love to have the BH attachment.
@@MyClutteredGarage my bh77 payment is $166 per month with $1,000 down don't know if that's any helpful information for you
I’ve pulled out several large stumps in my B2320 using the loader and auger. Drill down all around the stump, which will split roots then rip it out. Got 3 large cedar stumps last summer and put about 5 hours on the machine.
We are getting a tractor soon with a front mounted hydraulic auger driver. We will try to dig out around fence posts & trees stumps with a thin auger to do the heavy and deep digging. It should be fairly easy on the tractor.
I use my 2601 to remove stumps all the time I invested in a Piranha tooth bar it really improves the digging time verses the standard bucket blade.
Nice job you got that bad boy out. I do have a stump bucket for my tractor and it works great for not only stumps but also for trenching. You can’t trench as deep or as fast as a backhoe but as you said and I did the same as you and could not justify the cost of the backhoe..
Hey Mike. I do have a stump bucket now. Handy attachment!
Damn! no quit in you. Good stuff.
Thanks much!
Definitely not the best tool for the job, but you proved it will eventually get the job done. I used my FEL to dig a hole a bit over 4 feet deep to bury my dog a couple weeks ago. A tooth bar is a force multiplier. It makes it much easier to push through and break up compacted soil and roots.
I know this video is older but if you get a chance, look into mechanical advantage. 2-3 snatch blocks and some heavy duty rope rigged up correct and attached to the drawbar. That tractor pulls them out without much effort and definitely without all the digging.
I appreciate your input. Thanks for watching.
Go around the stumps with a sub soiler, then dig out with the bucket.
Check out the piranha tooth bar they are really reasonable in price and really help with digging
How about using the chisels on the box blade. Set them as deep as they can go to brake the ground up
Look into a stump bucket. It's still a slow job but much less stress on the FEL. The one I used tapered down to a point with 3 teeth. I cut around all four sides to cut the roots then rolled the stumps out. It's amazing how big a hole it takes to remove a 12: stump.
You’re right about that. But figuring that those roots held up a 60’ tree or so, they’d have to be significant, right? Thanks for watching. -Ed
You are smart
Thanks very much. Smart or stubborn gets the job done! :)
Interesting means of removing a stump. Since you have a lot of clay, roots tend to be closer to the surface. It's hard to cut roots with a straight bucket blade like your bucket has. Look up the Heavy-Hitch bucket tooth bar that would make the job faster and easier. They make one that will fit a Kubota. I've used my son's Kubota excavator to pull stumps. Even with that it is still not the easiest job...and we have great soil to work with.
Great video.. for the future, have you considered getting a middle buster? It will break up the dirt and break the roots.
I have done this before myself and I have regretted it. You always end up putting way too much wear and tear on your tractor. Your loader is just not designed for this. I would strongly discourage folks from doing this and just go rent a mini backhoe for the day. They run about $360/day with the trailer (in my area). You can pop out a lot of stumps in a full day with a mini backhoe. Plus dig ditches for water and power and all kinds of other fun. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, David. Definitely not something I'll be doing often... if ever again :)
100 percent spot on mate ... I bent my rear arms with the box blade ...i then spent a few hours talking to the mechanic of do and donts and this was one thing he said would cause too much Stress on the tractor he said he sees it all to often ... he said people think it can do everything but the stress on the tractor isn't worth it.
I'd have bet against you...way to go!!!
Your Box blades are powerful root cutters - drag the box over the roots and they will rip and tear. Lower them a little more and rip and tear more.
Think of a way of attacking a project
Then Going for it
Great Work Ethic
Why don't you loosen it up with the scarifiers on your box blade?
Nice work! What about using the box blade with the scarifies set down? Also, a nice tooth bar on the bucket would have been helpful. I just put the Everything Attachments wicked tooth bar on my 60” bucket for my B2601 and it’s a beast now! Good luck with the rest of those stumps!
Thanks very much!
How long did this take you from start to finish? I own about 30 acres of land here in Pocahontas county West Va and have cleared dozens of Hemlocks and have the stumps remaining. I have a Kubota 2501 tractor with an adjustable 7-foot blade that can also dip to a 15-degree angle to rip up the stump roots. I know an excavator is the best options but trying to get an operator here is a scarce as hens teeth!
Too long! These machines just aren’t made for this type of work. I spend several hours and this was a pretty dead stump. I tried again with a stump bucket. Great attachment but really best for really small trees - like maybe 3-4 inch diameter? Check this out. czcams.com/video/3p3oltxcUn8/video.html
Would a large post hole digger have helped break things (roots and clay) loose to make the job easier?
Hi Lee. I suppose it’s possible that an auger could have broken the roots to free things up. Thanks for commenting. -Ed
I wonder if the grapple would work better at digging the roots and popping up then use bucket to dig around stump to get to tap root
Hi Michael. I think a stump bucket would be better, but honestly its a job for a bigger machine and or a backhoe. Thanks very much for watching!
You got the job done, but I don't recommend using a loader for that kind of work. You can bend the hydraulic rams, break the hydraulic ram housing, or both when applying that kind of torque while the ram is extended.
Thanks. As I said at the end of the video, I don't recommend it either :)
@@MyClutteredGarage My post was directed at those who don't always watch videos till the end. Many times people just screen the comments to see what others are saying about a video before watching.
@@dwb73 - absolutely! Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching.
This was a good Demonstration of what a skillful operator can do with a Little tractor. I don't think it would be a practical solution for the less skilfull like me though. I bought a 3 Point Grinder for my bs and the thing is great. Only taken about half a dozen stumps and some thought and research and I can do what I call " Precision grinding now where I only make a hole less than about 12" larger than the stump I'm removing. It's qute neat I have the hang of it and a stump that size would have be gone in 10 min tops. I's be confident to do 20" stumps without a thought now. i'd do 30" but that would take some planning because as soon as you get under the dirt they turn into 40" you would have to grind out and then you have to watch where you put the tractor itself and don't reverse into your own hole. On smaller trees to about 20 " the grinders are very practical and probably the fastest stump removal out there for a home owner I'd say.
Where did you get a grinder like that? Is it a stump grinder or like a skill saw blade?
@@AUoldphart look up woodland Mills. There is at least one other similar type but that is the one I have. Just used it nearly everyday for a fortnight and I'm taking out stumps with the thing now that I didn't think possible. Old, hard and very large well over 32". Takes a little time but what you can do in 10 Min with the thing would be hours any other way.
@@thedummyspit8814 Thanks for the information
I keep a full sized cheap axe dedicated for roots.
Buy a ripper and mount it on a frame that fits your front end loader. Works perfect with the third function.
Are you related to tractor time with Tim....you sure look and sound like him.....great video
Haha, I'm not, but thanks!
You got it done but hard on the tractor.
Hey Mike. Thanks for watching. Yeah likely not doing that again 😄
Have you thought about renting a dump grinder? Pros and cons?
You know, I always forget about the rental option. I feel like have to own everything. Thanks for the reminder! I definitely think a stump grinder is a better way to go.
Do you have a video showing the installation of the grab hooks on the bucket, especially the looped one in the bucket. Thanx!
Hi Gary. Check out videos #3 and #5 on my channel. Thanks much! -Ed
Which quick hitch do you have mounted on the back of your tractor? Do you like it or
think perhaps a different brand is designed better?
I have the Harbor Freight QH. I haven’t used any other brands, but I think the Land Pride QH would be better quality. The one complaint with the HF model is the shallow depth of the hook. Otherwise, it works well. I also made a video about it here (see #15). Thanks for watching.
This was great! I really like the way you explain things. Analytical. That's a good thing. By the way... I CLAPPED when you finally pulled that stump out! Thank you for all your You tube content. I'm a neophyte on my brand new tractor. Not being raised on a farm, I have to learn everything from scratch. BUT I AM learning how to be productive with my tractor, one video at a time. THANK YOU! Quick Question ... have you produced a tutorial on Greasing Tractor Joints? I'm looking for one that gets in close to show details, so we can learn what joints to grease, and how to grease them. Thanks!
Thank you, Leslie. I’m no pro but I’m happy to share my experiences. You’ll get more and more comfortable with your tractor as time and use go by. As for greasing, you can check out video #34. Thank you for your kind words. Be sure to join us tonight at 7pm for my livestream with my special guest Gord from GO Outdoors if you can! -Ed
Hey, first coment on your Channel but I have been watching your videos and I really am a fan 👍,
Quick question why did’nt you used your grapple for this job ?
Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciated. My goal was really to remove as much dirt as possible. I really don’t think the grapple would have budged it. And I didn’t want to bend my tractor... again 😉
Nice job Ed! If I were a betting man, I would have bet against you getting it out. Sorry! Nice work! Cheers!
Thanks Mike!
This definitely is a "rent the as large as I can afford and transport mini excavator" job. Don't beat the hell out your tractor that was not built for this. There's no shame in it. One repair can cost a lot more than a rental. Like Clint Eastwood says : A man's got to know his limitations".
Good advice! As I said, I don’t really recommend it. Thanks for watching!
It looked to me like he used his tractor exactly as it was designed. He took it slow, dug a layer at a time, didn’t slam it against the stump. The real concern here is bending your front loader.
But I agree with you. If you have the money and can, rent heavy equipment. A cheaper option is just burn it out with charcoal.
I think you would have made faster progress by using the ripper teeth on your box blade to break out those roots
That root would have been a challenge for a Backhoe
If you struggle to get the rest out, get a hot fire going up against the stumps. They will smolder for a few days like a cigarette since the stumps are likely loaded with pitch.
I’m thinking about drilling a hole through the stump, attaching an eye bolt (straight through and nut on the opposite end), then attach a chain to the eyebolt and the bucket and lift up or pull. I’m thinking this might work for small to medium stumps. I don’t have anything large. I have a Kubota L01 with the LA525 bucket. I think it might have enough strength.
I would not recommend the "Pull" at 3:40 .
The cylinders are fully extended; if your bucket ever hit a rock, you can bend your cylinders and that would cost $ $ $ .
You need a Piranha edge or some other edge on your bucket. Easier to replace when worn than the whole bucket.
I agree! Thanks!
Which counter weight do you use en the video. The name of the attachment
Hi Carlos. I have the Land Pride box blade BB1560.
Just a thought
What if You had put down one or two of the Box Blade Rippers and tried to break a root in several passes
Thanks. Someone once mentioned dropping a single ripper. Seems like a good idea!
Lol lose tooth you are so Wright that is just how it is lol thanks for sharing
Do you have ballast in your rear tires?
100%. Plus I always add ballast by attaching some sort of implement to the 3 pt hitch.
Once i saw the trench being dug i knew this was a fail. Sure it's out but not worth that effort.
Have you ever thought about adding a tooth bar to your front bucket. I have a Massey ferguson GC 1725, I just ordered a tooth bar for my tractor.
Thanks very much. I always thought the tooth bar would affect smooth back dragging. What’s your experience?
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I haven't received my tooth bar yet, I agree it wouldn't be great for back dragging but it should really improve the ability to cut. If I don't want the tooth bar on, I can take it off.
That is some really good tractor wrangling. Nice job.
Thank you!
At first I thought you might be going to lower just 1 or 2 of the box blade scarifiers and see if they could be used similar to a ripper on a bulldozer. I do that to tear up potholes forming in my driveway. I was also thinking that a piranha tooth-bar from BEXpanded might make this job a little easer and it would be an every use bucket item. Come to think of it with you metal working skills you might be able to buy a couple of scarifiers and modify them into a cutting edge so that they would be more knife like to help cut the smaller roots. We have a cottonwood tree here in Western Washington ((black cottonwood (Populus trichocarpa)) that likes to a root almost as large as the stump diameter. I just discovered your channel and you do a nice job on these videos.
Hi Jan. That’s a great idea to just lower one or two scarifies. I never thought of that. Thanks very much for watching, and for your kind comments. -Ed