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  • What happens if you play all 12 Death's Shadows in Modern and go all-in on growing them as quickly as possible with the help of phyrexian mana cards in a $100 Mono-Black shell? Let's find out!
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    0:00 Start
    2:62 Match 1
    14:00 Match 2
    24:41 Match 3
    33:22 Match 4
    45:03 Match 5
    59:08 Wrap Up
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Komentáře • 291

  • @VRanger100
    @VRanger100 Před rokem +175

    I like how there's a Seth popping up randomly in behind the face cam once in a while. It's like Seth's shadow trying to pop out.

  • @Princederbat
    @Princederbat Před rokem +214

    Very funny to me that the shadows can't block the Voidwalker because it has shadow

    • @mattm7798
      @mattm7798 Před rokem +40

      The Shadows don't have Shadow because they are not a true shadow, but death's shadow :)

    • @Princederbat
      @Princederbat Před rokem +7

      @@mattm7798 oh that's clever, I like that haha!

  • @jacefairis1289
    @jacefairis1289 Před rokem +166

    I remember clowning on Shadow Of Mortality as not being a very good death shadow - but it turns out "not very good death shadow" can still be pretty strong! completely blanking fatal push is a pretty funny side effect

    • @mostlyholy6301
      @mostlyholy6301 Před rokem +34

      What it adds is consistency. Having twelve copies of your best spell is great, even if some of those copies are distinctly second rate.

    • @Valotore
      @Valotore Před rokem +5

      and prismatic ending

    • @DJTrulin
      @DJTrulin Před rokem +1

      only hard removal touches it

    • @seanclark4071
      @seanclark4071 Před rokem +10

      It turns out that even though it’s not the best shadow a 2 mana 7/7 is in fact good enough

    • @jackl8025
      @jackl8025 Před rokem +2

      it dodges prismatic ending too

  • @ShahmsKing
    @ShahmsKing Před rokem +49

    At 38:50 you could've used Hex Parasite in response to the Vial activation to prevent them from putting in the Merfolk Trickster (because when the ability resolved the vial would only have 1 counter). Didn't end up mattering, but still.

  • @Luteloots
    @Luteloots Před rokem +91

    Your first opponent having the name "Shadow" is just top tier coincidence.

    • @AricHaldan0782
      @AricHaldan0782 Před rokem +11

      I also found it quite funny that the deck died to Dauthi Voidwalkers having shadow.

    • @Alikaoz
      @Alikaoz Před rokem +1

      Last one too

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt Před rokem +5

      Death's Shadow causing Shadow's Death

    • @Amphidsf
      @Amphidsf Před rokem +1

      @@Alikaoz Same player as well.

    • @VictorTheLegend
      @VictorTheLegend Před rokem

      @@AricHaldan0782 and yet shadow of mortality can't block it... flavor fail xD

  • @DualSwordBesken
    @DualSwordBesken Před rokem +128

    I'd love to see you run a non-budget version of this deck at some point.

  • @kirillm2517
    @kirillm2517 Před rokem +27

    I love the flavor of this deck. It's peak "Greatness at any cost." And it even has a strong shadow sub-theme in Death's *Shadow* , *Shadow* of Mortality, Plunge into *Darkness* . My inner Vorthos is having a good day!

  • @Sparky-yx9oz
    @Sparky-yx9oz Před rokem +30

    The Shadow! I love this obscure reference! I had a friend that had the cassetts of the old 30s radio show. 📻

    • @Sparky-yx9oz
      @Sparky-yx9oz Před rokem +3

      "The weed of crime bears bitter fruit"

  • @bigtimetimmyjim6486
    @bigtimetimmyjim6486 Před rokem +85

    The more "non-budget" version of the deck probably adds a second color for evasion, like Temur Battle Rage, since the main weakness of the deck seems to be the ability for opponents to just chump for days. Great deck!

    • @flewphernegro1516
      @flewphernegro1516 Před rokem +16

      not only that, the fetchs and shocks will also help in losing life, even thoughtseize would help a lot

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt Před rokem +2

      Maybe even just adding the Beholder land and the mythic black mdfc land

    • @troylindsay8967
      @troylindsay8967 Před rokem +1

      I was building something similar in mono black, I was gunna run urborgs and funeral charms to give swamp walk

    • @plaidypus3911
      @plaidypus3911 Před rokem +1

      I was thinking if you're gonna splash red, 'throw in' some flings to get around creatures

    • @kaedox5367
      @kaedox5367 Před rokem +3

      @@plaidypus3911 so mono black actually has a card called rite of consumption, a sorcery speed fling with lifelink, which sadly would kill any deaths shadows you didn't sac, but since you'd only be flinging to win, would probably be fine

  • @ctomsky
    @ctomsky Před rokem +5

    Seth, I just want you to know that practically nobody understood that reference in the intro, but *I* appreciated it! :D

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +4

      I'm glad someone got it. I grew up listening to old time-y radio. There are dozens of us, dozens!

  • @BugioPimposo
    @BugioPimposo Před rokem +22

    OMG, man, you're one of the best brewers out there, congrats for the 5-0!

  • @Fyrefrye
    @Fyrefrye Před rokem +33

    I don't think going down to 1 life intentionally is ever the play. A single shadow will never kill an opponent with one hit, so you'll always either need 2 shadows or two successful attacks. Therefore the maximum any shadow needs to be is half your opponent's life total (10 at the start and maybe lower by the time you attack). In M1G1, I would have gone down to 5 to make the shadows 8/8. This still kills in two hits but let's you survive a bit more interaction from your opponent. Admittedly it wouldn't have been enough here, but I think the point is still valid.

    • @raisins7777
      @raisins7777 Před rokem +3

      If they are at 20 you have a point, but if they shocked hitting them for 11 is pretty good in case you draw the 7/7 shadow.

    • @corpsefoot758
      @corpsefoot758 Před rokem +2

      I dunno if you factored incidental lifegain into the overall strategy either, though. And WotC started printing a whole lot of that recently lol

  • @mikemoyer8162
    @mikemoyer8162 Před rokem +5

    Hex parasite on repeat for urza's saga has got to be one of my favorite magic interactions I've seen in a while.

  • @SaintRazo
    @SaintRazo Před rokem +9

    I hate how in a matter of hours from release the deck jump from 103 to 250.
    I genuinely love death shadow but the fast jump of price is ridiculous.

  • @marlonmenezes6204
    @marlonmenezes6204 Před rokem +21

    just in time for lunch

  • @darklingscribe
    @darklingscribe Před rokem +14

    I enjoyed the video! Really great take on Death’s Shadow. I would add something you didn’t mention in the wrap up. I think a big factor of this deck going 5-0 wasn’t just dodging the burn matchup, but also dodging the decks that play Solitude. One Solitude not only exiles a Death’s Shadow or Scourge of the Skyclaves, it also causes you to gain enough life to kill all the others. It’s pretty much a Spellskite or bust situation.

    • @baileynicholson251
      @baileynicholson251 Před rokem +3

      As someone who's sat in the burn shadow matchup on both sides multiple times. I think it's not as bad a matchup for either side. A lot comes down to sequencing and getting your opponent to work for you in either chair.

  • @GilbertoHernandez-xl9ig
    @GilbertoHernandez-xl9ig Před rokem +8

    I'd like to point out how good plunge into darkness is on this deck. Like the ability to dig for sideboard cards while also losing life??? Insane!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Yeah, Plunge is amazing in this deck.

  • @kithkindeck
    @kithkindeck Před rokem +10

    This reminds me of old school suicide black where you fed your life to Hatred on shadow creatures.

  • @PowerChannel88
    @PowerChannel88 Před rokem +9

    12 Shadow deck losing against literally Shadow in the Rakdos match Game 2. Poetic irony

  • @shadowfox513
    @shadowfox513 Před rokem +3

    Hex parasite was an absolute unit in this deck. The random counter hate was actually super relevant.

  • @erfunk
    @erfunk Před rokem +5

    With losing life being so easy, it feels like this is a deck that can go to ~5 the turn it deploys threats, then drop to lethal just before attacking. Saves you from getting janked out by Omnath, a flash attacker+removal, or something unexpected but sorcery speed.

  • @NathanielSimpson1481
    @NathanielSimpson1481 Před rokem +3

    Home sagas in the side board could be interesting with Hex Parasite, 'Elspeth's Nightmare' and 'Life of Toshiro Umezawa' in budget, as recurrent removal for blockers, or Urza's saga and Binding of the Old Gods in non budget.
    The is probably an OK deck around repeating saga triggers etc with Hex Parasite

  • @AutkastKain
    @AutkastKain Před rokem +8

    This deck is awesome. I love seeing the game against Esper Food. What a sick brew!

  • @bryankopkin6869
    @bryankopkin6869 Před rokem +4

    16:31 I love when Seth does this lmao. Always makes me laugh :)

  • @keepthebeatfresh8165
    @keepthebeatfresh8165 Před rokem +2

    I'm very surprised you used the theme from The Shadow. Thats an old school RADIO show from before television. Cudos for the nostalgia.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem

      I grew up listen to old time radio (my local NPR station did old time radio shows from 8-12 PM when I was a kid), some of it is actually pretty sweet.

  • @mitchelljudson9237
    @mitchelljudson9237 Před rokem +3

    Great I've been playing 12 whack for the last 2 months to get back into modern, and NOW I NEED a 12 shadow deck to go along with it lol have everyone scared at my lgs of turn 3

  • @coltontaylor3858
    @coltontaylor3858 Před rokem +1

    Plunge was a low key all star. Finding sideboard cards, lands or threats whilst losing life. That felt like one of the most important cards in these matchups. Aside from parasite

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily Před rokem +21

    Digging 19 cards deep for a Death's Shadow and naturally drawing a Death's Shadow immediately after was some powerful Magic. Shame you couldn't win that game.

  • @Martini_1911
    @Martini_1911 Před rokem +11

    It was amazing how your hex parasite shut down the opponent's Urza's Saga in game 1 match 5. One of the few actual answers to it in Modern apparently lol.

  • @nekkomacioce
    @nekkomacioce Před rokem +4

    I would be down to see a non-budget version on stream

  • @crazyvikingboy2856
    @crazyvikingboy2856 Před rokem

    We didn’t get to see any chests opened! Loved the video :)

  • @davidthompson6861
    @davidthompson6861 Před rokem

    That intro was everything!

  • @Kakerate2
    @Kakerate2 Před rokem

    For anyone looking to upgrade it, Yawgsmoth + Cabal would be good for the odd scenario where you can actually pay the kicker on that guy
    REE, there was a point in the video I was going to suggest a different line, it was either in G2/3. Iirc at 27:35, I think the optimal play is paying 6 life so you can wraith into DS. There was another game where Seth didnt swing with the 1/1 twice, which I think may have been a punt, as he had 2 and then 3 copies either in hand/play.

  • @antongensolin1809
    @antongensolin1809 Před rokem

    Yes! I needed this budget deaths shadow deck.

  • @levix1arena
    @levix1arena Před rokem

    Great deck, love it, love Death's Shadow decks, and for sure will try it with my 12 foil shadows! :D

  • @JediMB
    @JediMB Před rokem

    Hex Parasite vs. Urza's Saga was amazing. Gotta love it!

  • @BR1Dourado
    @BR1Dourado Před rokem

    "Budget in modern" is ThE BEST content possible!!!! Thanks, saff

  • @imakuni67
    @imakuni67 Před rokem +1

    Nice spooky video to celebrate Halloween candy being in stores already!

  • @adriendelplace8755
    @adriendelplace8755 Před rokem +10

    I think it would be great to play actual leagues instead of 5 ranked games. To see the deck against real top decks like Izzet Murktide/hammer time etc. Instead of playing against brews / fun decks.

  • @robertgrosse4904
    @robertgrosse4904 Před rokem +2

    The ironic part is that if you had played Hex Parasite t1 instead of inquisition, you could have just removed the counter from chalice.

    • @kentan9928
      @kentan9928 Před rokem

      woah didnt thought of that ! holy. . . thinking back i have missed the point that chalice has COUNTERS on them dayum,. .. . .

  • @garageink74
    @garageink74 Před rokem +1

    This is so sick. I love death’s shadow. And never thought shadow of mortality would ever be playable. Lol.

  • @suryaeffendy1152
    @suryaeffendy1152 Před rokem

    What a brew! Bravo, Seth :)

  • @jeremyfox4186
    @jeremyfox4186 Před rokem

    Drips with flavor that Plunge into DARKNESS synergies with Death SHADOW! Love its!

  • @bestcoastproductions8157

    I like it! I love it! I want some more of it!

  • @vigil_5316
    @vigil_5316 Před rokem +1

    Did not expect "The Shadow" to open this video

  • @cryptic_conman3149
    @cryptic_conman3149 Před rokem

    Crazy I was just playing the HIstoric version that i came up with myself on Arena. Gotta bring forth the darkness occassionally!

  • @ToadallyMemes
    @ToadallyMemes Před rokem +3

    It's almost like wizards should split modern into 2 sets...horizons and non horizons and see what format people actually want.

  • @Robot_Face
    @Robot_Face Před rokem +1

    The hex parasite punishing sagas is hilarious.

  • @sergiosanmuahahaha
    @sergiosanmuahahaha Před rokem

    Love to see modern. Cool and spicy deck too

  • @anonymoususer69
    @anonymoususer69 Před rokem +6

    For the non budget version of the deck presented in the article i think you should consider 1-2 watery grave to potentially lose life faster the "incidental" way if you dont draw your mass life loss outlets and to potentially activate spellskite in the late game when you are down to 1 life

  • @FlackooPretty
    @FlackooPretty Před rokem

    Wow great job!!

  • @leonkuhl5712
    @leonkuhl5712 Před rokem

    It would be so cool if you do a gameplay with the non-budget-version!
    Great Video and deck Saf

  • @sethvayda4450
    @sethvayda4450 Před rokem +6

    Ironic that your shadow creatures couldn't block creatures with shadow

  • @twiceThePrideDoubleTheFall

    At 39:04 I think the better play was remove counters from aether vial in response to activation. With 4 mana, that still lets you hold up plunge.

  • @loganjohnson4257
    @loganjohnson4257 Před rokem +1

    Just to ensure I hopefully get a response can we get an updated budget modern list for new players. I need a deck to get into modern that's inexpensive and fairly easy to play. Thanks seth!

  • @bsmartr806
    @bsmartr806 Před rokem

    I'm sad I didn't see this video earlier. I have a similar budget deck, but it has Village Rites main board, and Cling to Dust in the sideboard.

  • @benjones1717
    @benjones1717 Před rokem

    It needs some red mana for the kicker on the scourge, that was an option on some occasions. Fun deck.

  • @DorkaTor
    @DorkaTor Před rokem +2

    Based on the other Seth behind the talking Seth, I would say someone (and this could have been anyone) forgot to unmute their microphone.

    • @DorkaTor
      @DorkaTor Před rokem +1

      I also just realised that most of the time Seth's right hand is on his chin, not the mouse that is running around which further adds to the comedy of it.

  • @soweroblackheart8890
    @soweroblackheart8890 Před rokem +1

    Love the opening

  • @failfurby
    @failfurby Před rokem

    This looks insanely fun and is probably better than my pet deck (Izzet Prowess) in every way possible. I think it's time I give up on trying to build an Urza Tron list and pivot into a new deck to pursue.

  • @jostme12
    @jostme12 Před rokem

    one or two rite of consumption could have been really cool tech to finish off games as a black fling.

  • @barongrimthorpe344
    @barongrimthorpe344 Před rokem +1

    Ditching the Castle Locthwains for Hive of the Eye Tyrants seems like it would fit the beat down plan better. Also bonus graveyard hate.

    • @KynElwynn
      @KynElwynn Před rokem +1

      but less self-damage

    • @barongrimthorpe344
      @barongrimthorpe344 Před rokem

      @@KynElwynn But as Seth pointed out the deck isn’t really trying to do the incremental life loss plan and the Castle costs quite bit of mana as a way to do it anyways.

  • @nicholasjohnston9737
    @nicholasjohnston9737 Před rokem +1

    Almost feels like mono black hammer time with how swingy it is!

  • @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet

    Teferi sat on a stone overlooking the valley. In the waning light of dusk, the sky before him blazed with warm reds and oranges before slowly fading to purple and blue. The first stars twinkled in the sky behind him over the forest. _A true vision of perfection._ he thought to himself.
    A breeze brushed his exposed arms. He shivered, grunting as he leaned on his staff to stand, glancing down at the slender shadows stretching beyond his seat. "Must've sat longer than I thought," he grumbled, "they probably haven't left me anything for dinner."
    With a deep sigh, he strode off down the dark path between the trees. The darkness welcomed him.
    ........
    A lonely portion grew cold in its bowl near the dying campfire. Friends whispered in fear to each other, huddled against the creeping dark, exhaustion writ large on their faces. But the bulwark of blackness had stayed their feet, even as fear had stayed their will. The deep shadows, ancient as void, danced madly at the edge of their fire - and laughed, cutting their souls like a devil's scream.
    In the morning light the shadows retreated. But their teeth dripped with crimson terror, and a red dawn anointed their kill.

  • @ccggenius
    @ccggenius Před rokem +6

    Great... now I'm wondering if a deck where you Hex Parasite your OWN Urza's saga so you can keep cranking out more constructs is a viable idea.

    • @theBestInvertebrate
      @theBestInvertebrate Před rokem

      Frankly, one or two urza's sagas in this deck could be an improvement. I hate that this could be true.

    • @BaygelTheDog
      @BaygelTheDog Před rokem +1

      Magic aids has deck like that except you do it with the 3rd saga trigger on the stack before it sacs to tutor the artifact then remove a counter so it doesn't sac

    • @mattm7798
      @mattm7798 Před rokem

      To note, it takes 3 tapped lands/mana each turn...maybe there is a deck where the constructs are more than just big beaters and constitute an alt win con?

    • @ccggenius
      @ccggenius Před rokem

      @@mattm7798 3 mana and 2 life to make a big boy and tutor a one drop is probably worth it. You can ditch the 2 life cost if you're playing Power Conduit, wherein those removed counters become yet more gas. And now I'm wondering if Lantern Control can come back with Everflowing Chalice, Astral Cornucopia, or Pentad Prism picking up the slack left by Mox Opal... It's probably magic Christmas land to try and Rube Goldberg a mana rock, but it might be fun? Maybe as part of the Karn wishboard...

  • @reyjay8571
    @reyjay8571 Před rokem +1

    I feel like a boardwipe like crippling fear to get rid of a wide board instead of Wraith might be good! Keep your shadows safe but get rid of their blockers and swing in could speed up some games!

  • @adriendelplace8755
    @adriendelplace8755 Před rokem +1

    I'd like to see the non budget version of that with thoughtseize and stuff.

  • @274pacific
    @274pacific Před rokem

    Damn, that intro. "Here's one for my Silent Era homies"

  • @nicholasjohnston9737
    @nicholasjohnston9737 Před rokem

    Plunge and the phyrexian creatures is sick in this. I feel like some fetches, maybe a second color to deal with artifacts/enchantments, and thoughtseize make this a totally upgradable deck.

  • @0hboii13
    @0hboii13 Před rokem

    alright I'm buying into that deck

  • @hunterstrong3318
    @hunterstrong3318 Před rokem

    Hard makes me wanna try it with the not budget version. I just love my shadow deck, but always down for fun variety.

  • @thumper3662
    @thumper3662 Před rokem

    🎉 that was too sweeeeeet! 🤘

  • @aedanohara6080
    @aedanohara6080 Před rokem

    would love to see a Instant ob nixilis ultimate in standard using a rakdos sac deck with traxos

  • @rileythomas5024
    @rileythomas5024 Před rokem

    I made a deck similar to this in historic using the vecna cards

  • @kyferis
    @kyferis Před rokem +3

    What's up with the sneaky Seth bun that pops in from time to time?

  • @dorianramirez4889
    @dorianramirez4889 Před rokem

    This looks fun

  • @freeejazzz
    @freeejazzz Před rokem

    This feels like the original budget hammer time

  • @josht3186
    @josht3186 Před rokem

    Oh danf wish you could play this again, like, against burn lol

  • @PokemonManiac28
    @PokemonManiac28 Před rokem

    budget magic and its modern??!! 😱😱 yessss

  • @Goten40373
    @Goten40373 Před rokem

    ok that 1st game with 3 deaths shadows on turn 3 at full power is scary

  • @Dalenthas
    @Dalenthas Před rokem

    Would've really liked to see a game against burn or Hammer.

  • @jerrymcdaniel6643
    @jerrymcdaniel6643 Před rokem

    This is a deck that I would love to see non budget

  • @9forMortalMen
    @9forMortalMen Před rokem

    Hey saffron olive, I just was reminded of how much I enjoy Niv by that first game and I wanted to see if you’d ever be inclined to do something spicy along those lines.

  • @noahrecknagel7142
    @noahrecknagel7142 Před rokem

    finally modern budget!

  • @OtterSC2
    @OtterSC2 Před rokem

    Great deck great video, is burn a problem matchup? Not being able to plunge much if at all seems like it'd hurt consistency, but if you draw enough fatal pushes and shadows I guess it becomes easy.

  • @tylerstegman6846
    @tylerstegman6846 Před rokem

    I wanted to build a mono black DS list with vendetta and devour in shadow thought seize, etc

  • @TheMCGamer2012
    @TheMCGamer2012 Před rokem

    Reminder that Hex Parasite is best used against planeswalkers if they have out versus on itself :)

  • @jamesbest3347
    @jamesbest3347 Před rokem

    Brewmaster Seth. The mad lad did it.

  • @samdunn5846
    @samdunn5846 Před rokem

    Ive been thinking about playing death shadow in d&t with adanto vangaurd it lets you do something similar and the card that takes counters off is tutorable with urzas saga

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc Před rokem

    Seth at 1 life vs the red opponent: "what could they POSSIBLY draw into here?"

  • @Ryadic
    @Ryadic Před rokem +1

    "All you gotta do is kill them on turn 3. That's it. That's all you gotta do."
    Huh, why didn't I think of that?

  • @gvilellarojo
    @gvilellarojo Před rokem

    Hey Seth!
    Do you think that a non-budget version of this deck could use a copy or two of Near-Death Experience?
    As usual, thank you for the amazing content.

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Před rokem

    .....I can't believe the 1st _Budget Magic_ 5 - 0 of 2022.....is in *MODERN!!*
    ...I can't add anything beyond that.
    Wow.

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm7798 Před rokem

    To note, other than merfolk, the deck didn't face alot of aggro and zero burn, so you basically auto lose against burn and it get's trick with aggro as often they have bolts.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před rokem +1

      Against a deck like burn we mostly don't pay life and trust that our opponent will lower our life enough to turn on the Death's Shadows. I don't think those matchups are great, but they also aren't real auto-losses if you play it that way.

    • @mattm7798
      @mattm7798 Před rokem

      @@MTGGoldfish Thanks for replying and for the amazing content. The advantage shadow +blue has is stubborn denial. The window has to be super tight when playing mono black. Once you get into the range where you're shadows are good(around 7 to 8 life), burn can just win out of nowhere and not sure there's anything but hoping to have a creature to sac to purge?
      By auto loss, I didn't mean literally an auto loss, but like if burn were playing against soul sisters.
      I do remember pre grixis death shadow when it was suicide shadow the burn matchup was always really interesting. I agree with another poster having a way to give trample seem like a key missing sideboard piece, since then even if burn holds back at say 5 life, you can 1 shot them.

  • @leonkuhl5712
    @leonkuhl5712 Před rokem

    What is the non-budget version of this deck? Great video saf

  • @jekanyika
    @jekanyika Před rokem +2

    4:47 Is Seth's hair trying to escape?

  • @lukek9033
    @lukek9033 Před rokem

    If someone owns thoughtseize or has the budget should those be added over streetwraith?

  • @testthewest123
    @testthewest123 Před rokem

    Ratchet Bomb has gotta going on!

  • @curtissearle6462
    @curtissearle6462 Před rokem

    Killer intro

  • @SmokeADig
    @SmokeADig Před rokem

    Nice! 👌