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- The Genesis GV80 combines style, luxury, and performance in what might be the best luxury midsize SUV on the market.
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Now, this is how you make an entrance. The brand-new GV80 debuts for the 2021 model year as an instant contender in the luxury space. Will shoppers flock to this new entrant, or will the titans of the class--Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi, and Lexus--continue to thrive?
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Presenter: Clifford Atiyeh
Cinematography: www.VennCreativeMedia.com
Written review: Jason Fogelson
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0:00 Introducing the GV80
1:04 Remote Start Parking Assist
1:29 Pricing
1:43 Interior Technology
4:32 Cargo Space and Seated Experience
4:42 Interior Details
5:25 Driving Impressions
10:42 The Design of the GV80
12:00 Pricing Among the Competition
12:42 Closing and Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
So impressed inside and out with the design. In person it is simply stunning. The interior color choices are so inviting and bespoke. Wish there weren't so many close minded commenters talking about something they never even saw or experienced personally. In person it has a huge wow factor video just can't do it justice. Definetly would take this over the competition
My issue is this, when you're paying almost 100k for a luxury family SUV, you're also paying for the brand prestige. As shallow as it may sounds, the looks and respect you get from driving a shiny new Benz is part of the perks of owning a luxury vehicle.
With Genesis, either people don't know about it or they think you cheaped out. Many people think of Genesis as the Great value knockoff version of a Benz. Why pay almost 100k for a Genesis and be considered that way? Might as well buy a Benz. Most Genesis are sold in Hyundai dealerships because there are few Genesis dealerships. That means your 100k Genesis SUV will be serviced next to a 15K Hyundai Accent, that's not a luxury bespoke experience.
@@braetonwilson4296 Fully loaded, the U.S. price is under $73K, not "almost $100K." Who cares what the car next it when it is being serviced?
@@jinmd9094 I agree. A lot of people need external validation.
@@braetonwilson4296 The type of buyer to whom you are referring just may change their tune when they're hit with the infamously high repair and maintenance bills that accompany European cars. That said, even Mercedes was the new kid on the block with no legacy at one time. People bought them because they had something good to offer. Now Genesis has something good to offer.
@@jinmd9094 After taxes and fees, it's close to 100K. Not to mention, dealer installed options, packages etc.
A car that can save you & your loved ones in a bad accident (like Tiger)....How much is that worth to you...priceless...not to mention comfort & luxury.
Saved Tiger
I have owned a Genesis GV80 Advanced Premium for a few weeks and I can honestly say it is a top shelf high quality luxury SUV. Great looks and superb quality in an elegant package. Don't over look this GV80 it is spectacular.
I've read so many people say that after they actually test drove a Genesis, it ruined everything else for them, and the Genesis was all that they wanted.
Until you have to take it to a Hyundai dealer to get it serviced. Good Luck
@@paulm6481 that's exactly why I want one in Korea. Getting it maintenanced at Hyundai is so cheap compared to other brands hahaha
@@paulm6481 You actually don't have to drive it to the dealership because they have a complimentary valet service. They bring a loaner to your location of choice, drive your car to the dealership, & return your car back to you at your location of choice & take the loaner back to the dealership. And Genesis is working on their own standalone dealership network anyways. So that eventually wouldn't be an issue
gv80 is best SUV for people without stereotype in head
Wife wants smaller SUV, I'm waiting on the GV70 and 2022 Tucson hybrid, whichever comes first.
@@dearbulls gv70 it’s best choice if you don’t have many children, we wait third baby in April and Gv80 is good size for us
I am hearing that GV70 is the best of both GV80 and G80 except the cabin size from the reviewers in SK.
@@dearbulls both awesome cars I’ve been eyeing as well. But if money isn’t a factor I’d go for the gv70
@@dearbulls cannot wait for the GV70. I've already started to do research for when the lease on my Audi Q3 is up. I absolutely love my Q3, I just don't want to purchase it and have the maintenance costs. The only way I'm not getting a GV70 is if it's somehow out of my price range
Genesis knocked it out of the park
Best looking SUV right now 🤤
all Hyundai theta engines cease up around 50k-90k.
thats why Hyundai changes its name to "smart stream".
they are exact same engines but pretending as newly designed engine.
Do not trust Hyundai - KIA.
@@newchannel1220 its hilarious how you leave anti hyundai comment everywhere. Okay boomer... It’s time to accept that Hyundai makes one of the most reliable cars out there.
Tiger knocked it out of the park.
@@newchannel1220 If that is true why did my Dealer include a 100K mile drivetrain warranty if the engine is so bad?
Car enthusiasts will definitely buy this, badge snobs not so much...
just google hyundai car engine fire.
more than 50% of car fire on US is hyundai or KIA. they are nothing but JUNK
I can’t wait to see a GV90. A 3 row competitor from Genesis would be a money maker & would blow competitors out of the water.
because Hyundai engine is crap.
@@gree9963 No they're not you salty troll. They actually make some great V6 & V8 engines 🤦🏽♂️🙄
I've been thinking this too! I would love them to com out with a true 3-row option with a GV80 L or GV90 because they need a true 3-row full-size SUV that can actually carry adults in each row like the Navigator, GLS, Escalade, & Land Rover Discovery. This car would outsell those competitors like hotcakes!
@@NileshR12 The GV80 Advance Plus has 3 rows of seats but has a little less head room than the Telluride or Palisade. There is still decent storage behind the 3 row. And the trolls that make blanket statements about bad engines could we have the technical data to look at please? There have been some issues with direct injected engines having carbon deposits build up on the intake valves but now they have added an additional port injector to keep the intake valves from the deposits. There is a 100k 10 year warranty on the drive train. Also I believe it is better to use a quality pure synthetic motor oil as the mist and vapor from the crankcase and PVC system will help keep the intake valve deposits to a minimum.
"With its superior resistance to deterioration, AAA's findings indicate that with turbocharged engines and for vehicles that frequently drive in stop-and-go traffic, tow heavy loads or operate in extreme hot or cold conditions."
lots of people got stuck in their head 30 years ago, remember when the japanese bring their car into the US in the 80' , Honda ,Toyota, the car people make fun of, look at them now! made in Japan,Korea,China!!HA HA HA! go study a little , do some reading from the PROFESSIONAL !!..don't just base on a brand or where it came from... I just bought one , this car is amazing !!
dont group china into korea and japan... china only does massive theft of tech
@@heaor2430 Kinda true...China doesn't really have an identity when it comes to manufacturing things because they've been a country of manufacturing designs/products for others. But it's a totally diff world there being that it's Communist and still developing. Korea and Japan are already fully developed.
AKA The Tiger Woods SUV
Exactly!
almost killed him
@@frommorningnight146 ha ha.. his dumb azz almost killed him.. falling asleep
@@frommorningnight146 it actually did save him
@@frommorningnight146 you didn’t watch the report? It actually saved him.
I personally love the 2.5T GV80, it’s quick and actually fits this car well. I know the 3.5T is better, but I don’t think by much. Plus in the 2.5T, I’m averaging 17-25 MPG (between city and highway) mostly in comfort and sport modes.
I just bought the 2.5 GV80, very surprised by the performance & at 28mpg on the highway it’s awesome 😎
I just bought one 4 days ago and love it so far!
I saw this suv on the way home looked like a Bentley truck then I see the name and I had to look this up immediately same minute I was searching this
Nice design, excellent technical features, and a nice car with good cost-effectiveness, GV80
ask tiger woods.
it almost killed him,.
We bought this car earlier this year (2022) to the same specs as in the video. It is everything and more than this review. We have always bought German cars because of the quality of build and the ride. Genesis was the first Asian car we purchased and there is no remorse. This vehicle goes head to head with every German SUV we have ever owned. Every feature equals or exceeds their German counterpart except one. Price! Drive this car and you'll be surprised.
What a beautiful SUV. I want get this one.
Thank you so much. Nice review.
great review. thanks.
Gv70 looks awesome, hyundai is making outstanding model and technique.
Well I do agree less rim and more tire may be more comfortable and perhaps quieter. And less unsprung weight. But it's a beautiful suv as well as the Bentley.
Looks to me a competitor to the lexus.
Lexus had better wake up or get left behind.
just FYI
10 Most Dangerous Vehicles In America
9. Kia Rio (2015-18)
7. Kia Forte (2015-18)
6. Hyundai Elantra (2011-16)
2. Hyundai Accent (2012-2017)
@@factsmatter6980 where did you get that list?
Infinity is already behind
It got more news coverage now after it saved Tiger Woods' life.
A twenty -three -year-old firefighter saved his life.
@@sergioferraro3644 No... Without the SUV being so Well built he would have died..
@@sergioferraro3644 Oh, so the firefighter was already there to absorb the impact for Tiger at the moment he crashed his car?
@@CumBrianFries Read the news.
@@velboone6041 Tiger almost died... It didn't work out very well.
Looks like some Lexus sales person is acting blatantly without knowing that what he is doing is only worsening Lexus's brand image
Good review
Definitely getting one of these - 3.5L Prestige model. I'm not in the least bit hindered by badge snobbery. After all, a good steak dinner is a good steak dinner, even if it doesn't come from your expected $100/plate high-brow restaurant.
This car helped save Tiger Woods' life. That accident will hopefully work to benefit Genesis in terms of sales
It's stunning!!!
Bentayga came out for 2017 MY and the mid-cycle refresh was 2021. Not early at all.
The most expensive parts of Merc, BMW and Audi are their logo, probably 25% to 30% of total production price.
Great looking and quality but I can see they will have to work on the braking with better feel and less fade that happens all to quickly.
just beautiful...
Really impressed with this car
every car since 2009 on recall for engine failure..
With the exception of the Elantra...
thats HYUNDIE for you
@@frommorningnight146 I believe it is 2021 now LOL?
Great SUV and a great review.
How much and no wireless CarPlay?
I most def want one
Wow, it is a kind of professional review.
Thankfully Australia gets a 3.0Lt Diesel straight 6 option .... makes paying at the pump less painful.
I can feel the salt gurgling in the throats of all the hyundai/kia haters who also hate on this even though this is an independent brand
Great looking SUV.
It's a good looking vehicle. I have a 2020 Cadillac XT5. Super disappointed in GM/Cadillac for their lack of service. Anyways, can't decide now whether to jump to an all electric or stick with an ICE vehicle.
Only complaint I have is the moon roof...dunno why they decided to divide them. Otherwise, its simply perfect!
Isn't it obvious? They partitioned the pano roof so there'd be some real estate to place the vanity mirrors for the rear passengers.
I think they did it as this car would chauffeur people in Korea and this gives the passenger a choice to have it open or closed.
@@CumBrianFries Yeah. I get that but it is a waste of space. I have had cars with pano roof before and never had a passenger wishing for vanity mirrors. It kind of ruins the asthetics a bit. Could have just included the vanity mirrors on the back of the front seats
@@joalblo9581 I doubt SUV would be used for much chauferring. The G80 sedan is much suited for chauffering with feature / amenties included with that in mind. Also, Genesis make or break will be happen in the western markets and not a lot of chauffering happens here (Not talking about kids being chauffered from school / soccer practicr etc. Even if you include this scenario, kids hardly use vanity mirrors).
The main reason is to get the max safety rating hope this helps
Praying for the money to buy 1
I would buy one if I had the means to.
No Dealer network here and a lot of money for bad service here in Fl
You Got Me
Thank you sir for all this I’m watching from Saudi Arabia thank you again🤍🇸🇦
I'm wondering how will it perform after 100000 miles on it.. I'm interested in buying GV80..
Gear shift and tough pad should be reversed in position for Ergonomics.
I'm aware of this brand with all trim available!!! And I'm loving it all together its awesome looking cars/SUV.. The thing is 🤔🤔.. I CAN'T AFFORD IT 🤣🤣🤣🤣.. unfortunately maybe used!! .. I have to add this part to my comment .. BMW or any other German brands .I guess by now we all or most of us knew their reliability reputation are very bad . and lose of value are worse and faster . so here let see how it will hold up overtime in reliability!! more important. I hope that Genesis. honor their product and take better care of their customers than the German arrogant brand ..
It's one more reason I prefer the Koreans vs. Germans. 5 yr/60k miles bumper to bumper coverage, and 10 yr/100k miles powertrain warranty.
💙💙💙
Drove one today love it but I was told that it had 400 hp
No Rear tv system?
Grandpa Now 2021.
This vehicle could use brighter colours inside and out, cardiff green's the best one.
Curious if there’s a lot of shared components with Hyundai those seats look identical in stitch pattern to the Palisade. Fully loaded Palisade trim comes with the ventilated seats they’re playing the option luxury game for the top trim model.
Genesis also needs stand alone dealerships, people like to have loaner vehicles a nice waiting area with snacks. If you’re playing the luxury game the entire package needs to be delivered. Sadly, even if the product is superior this luxury clientele wants to feel special the German luxe brands deliver with this.
Agree with some of your point, but instead of comparing to in-house products, you should compare it to what is available in that price range.
Stitch pattern and stitch quality, leather quality, fit-finish...are what separate good vs luxury.
Value here is real.
I have had MBs, BMWs, Porsches, and this is a serious option at 20-25k less.
Sure driving dynamic is not as fun, but this is the one to for everyday luxury.
And they provide pickup and delivery services, so there is no need to set foot in dealerships.
No other company provide that as baseline.
Seriously, I am at the point in my life that I give very little f$&k about what people think.
It looks awesome and it is a pleasure to drive.
That 20k compound into 150 by retirement...
Now THIS is the new Lexus RX. The real deal
You want the 2023 RX? This is literally it
Respectfully I can name one that based on this reviews is less pricey and has more prestige at least for now. And Genesis has NOT proven itself in the depreciation or quality department as of yet. It's not the Lexus of the mid-2000 quality, trade in value etc. My 2019 Audi Q7 3.0 Prestige quattro came in brand new at $68,456 (full concierge for 3 years) and not at $73,000. I know it's 3.0 and not 3.5, I chose the 20 inchers (my choice) instead of the 22", but with Pirelli run flats with Nitro. Virtual cockpit, fullmpanoramic roof, cold and warm weather packages, every option available except (full disclosure) the adaptable suspension and no issues, none so far. And the steering wheel designs, no comparison, this looks like my granddad's Buick steering wheel. And we did an off road/snow/ice test drive with friends, one BMW X5 and Mercedes GLE and as u can imagine the Quattro smoked both BMW and Mercedes in the ice/snow. I also have a 2018 Q5 performance plus with all bells and whistles and from what I hear about the GV70 it won't be any cheaper. So where is the value proposition??? Every reviewer talks highly of the relatively new Genesis brand as a value alternative. I don't see it as an Audi owner and multiple Lexuses in the 2000-2014 range all brand new. Lexus, yes, used to be a value, both in price and reliability. Plus trade-in. Genesis has to prove itself first and then we can call it value proposition.
I love the GV80 and am considering getting one. But BMW dealership are willing to give me 10% off MSRP which means I’m comparing a loaded X5 vs. the loaded GV80, both at roughly 72k. I can’t decide!!!!
Lease or purchase? The BMW is more pricey outside of warranty.
@@agentjrb Purchase . . . but BMW warranty is solid. It's not the Genesis warranty, but it's not enough to skew the decision for me.
This car saved Tiger Woods... lol.
Researched since it was just a rumour. test-driven twice. Want one. Can't get one - thanks Tiger and COVID. My local dealer sold all 45 they had in ~2.5 weeks. Getting seriously annoyed no-one can even give me a "maybe" date
needs a real gear selector
Does this guy have an instagram?
Base at $45-$50
10 year/100,000 mile power train warranty
NO wonder the Genesis emblem looks like the Bentley emblem. :) Head designer for Genesis worked for Bentley...did he do this to PO Bentley?
Why didn't you demonstrate "remote auto parking"??? Does it have "reversing camera/beeps"? Does it have a "front camera/beeps"?
The GV80 DOES look interesting. Tech right up the....would I give Genesis a chance? I didn't think I would. I have been biased against Hyundai (and Kia) since they came to market. Even though Hyundai quickly upped their game decades ago. Establishing themselves as reliable. Even though we use Korean tech....flatscreens, tablets, smartwatches, phones....But are we willing to spend "car money" on a Korean car? Those who never have?
I don't think most of us even know GENESIS exists. I didn't till a week ago. Came across the name accidentally. Hyundai needs to spend money on TV commercials aimed at the North American market. Magazine ads. They need an aggressive campaign. Put ads in Sports Illustrated. Buy time to put the GV80 commercial during the Superbowl, NBA Finals...etc. Make sure people KNOW...
I would have seriously considered a Genesis but the only dealer I found is in Bend Oregon and I live in Medford about 500 miles away. We have a great Hyundai dealer here in the valley and I purchased a new 2020 Palisade Limited. I has most of the luxury features of the Genesis for about $20,000 less in price. They could have badged it with a Genesis badge, it is just that good. And the warranty is awesome. 10 years or 100,000 miles. Because I bought it at Butler Hyundai, Butler doubled the warranty.
I looked at a Mercedes first but found it to be over priced and over pretentious!
And I'm sure you get MUCH better gas mileage than the GV80. He almost had me with this video until he started talking gas mileage and that was it for me!-I'll Pass!
I hate when the review turns into advertising without disclosing that they were paid to do the review by the company !!
So decisive, and unethical.
I'm not saying the car is bad, the car is so impressive, but unethical advertising and review....
Genesis > Germans. Once they get their electrification launched, all bets are off!
The electric GV60 SUV coupe is coming soon. There is also an electric G80, and electric GV70 in the pipeline. The G90 is due for a redesign this year, and it will be maximum extent of Genesis's design, technology, and performance potential. Cant wait :))
I like the ioniq 5.
@@dearbulls imagine it with the nice jewelry from Genesis!
Well there is a reason why people are buying car from brands they know coz Genesis Recalls 2021 G80 And GV80 Models Over Potential Fuel Leak
Hey guy. You are not reviewing the car
You are selling the car.
Glad Tiger didn't doe.
4:45 yeeeeah she says something like that to me all the time. 😁
The only thing I don't about the GV80 is the stering wheel.
many people prefer the steering wheel on new G80
@@dearbulls I have the same sentiments about that one, too.
If that GV80 was an EV, I would have two in my garage right now instead of two Teslas
Wait until you see the new Ioniq 5!
GV70 EV, GV60, eG80, G90 PHEV
72k for anything made by Hyundai or Kia is extremely over priced. This isn't a Lexus, Mercedes or BMW.
The gv80 was tested for carcinogens in korea and it is said that toluene exceeded the standard level
The suspension on this vehicle has many cast iron parts. Cheap. No aluminum. That may be why it ride loud as the reviewer says
Have you ever seen suspension of this car? Check it out compared with sus of BMW X5 or Range Rover sports. 😁😁😁
@@jongwankim5800 Indeed I have. I recommend you go watch savagegeese review of this vehicle. X5 is all aluminum. You get what you pay for. Same for Lexus. My choice is always Lexus. The GOLD standard. These Koreans look good, but are all gimmicky. If you want to own and not have to trade every three years, then choose Lexus, GOLD STANDARD.
Not true, based on the video you recommend to watch. Yes they did cheap out on the material, but on the same video at 13:35 he says Genesis is quiter and better than Acura MDX and LEXUS RX350. By the way, the Gold standard already started to fade away..
No innovation. Same regurgitation again and again, LEXUS is not gold standard. Yeah, you like it, that's all.
Video you recommend, 15:43, he also says GV80 is better than X5.
@@paulm6481 You are wrong. Go check the sus of X5. BMW is going back steel lately. All of silver color links or frame are not AL. GV80's front upper and knucle arms also AL. As you know almost all links and arms on rear are made with AL except a subframe. I think the most important point of luxury SUVs is balace with the strength and weight under suspensions.
Avoid all Hyundai/Kia/Genesis models with the 2.5L SmartStream engine. There seem to be serious issues(design flaw), and Korean authorities are currently investigating.
They are not the hottest rn lmao
Well that was annoying
I quit watching because of the weird and annoying bass thumping
The reason to buy German is because of reselling value, but Let me break this rule in the near future, so consumer can control Genesis reselling value.
Strange comment given the fact that German high-end SUVs have the highest depreciation of all.... 🤔
Good joke my dear! German cars depreciate very fast and poor reliability! Awful cars!
Your not very smart…
Dont buy hyundai... You will be tiger woods.
Yeah but Tiger Woods crashing one doesn’t help to the image of the brand
Quite the contrary. All the comments that came out after the accident were extremely favourable going as far as to say that if it hadn’t been for the car, Tiger Woods quite possibly might not have survived.
Of course it does. It saved his life with only fracture to the legs after rolling to the side. If you have seen the crash site you will know how fast he was going.
@@philippecca Exactly.
Ugly steering wheel. No wireless Apple car play. How could they release a brand new car without those features in 2021?
yeah especially when fricking Elantra has wireless carplay lol
You are just irrational Hyundai hater. Poor man
@@Fabi484 I'm a whyte man, not a poor man.
why, if you get an SUV, would you probably want AWD?
So, no, wrong.
here in texas we want an SUV but have absolutely NO NEED of AWD.
this engine has been around, and is WAAAY better now, from ford since 2009.
my old MKS with now 104,000 miles is getting 21.8 MPG ave right now, today off the reading.
with the tune, it has 445HP and 435 lb per.
and so there's that.
boy, you sure are impressed with bling vs reliability. how about looking under the car to compare it to the germans and again tell us IF there is a reason for the price differences and the reason those who can...buy those.
and then the truth...MPG.
it
sucks.
and your friend confirms, eh?
not so with the other brands...they actually do well in their real-world numbers.
no thanks.
i will hurry down to my lincoln dealer and get the aviator, get better mps and even use regular gas.
Albert Biermann and his colleagues from BMW M came over to head up Genesis powertrains and engineering. The doubts about the suspension on Genesis' is ignorance on your part. Ever driven the Genesis G70. That's Biermanns baby and it is as good or better than the 3-Series. And light years ahead in reliability.
@@CollisionofSoul maybe i am ignorant, but you are stupid rude and like many dim-wits, net address the issue or produce facts.
and being better than the 3 these days is easier than before, except for the newest.
and not sure if the genesis does as you say.
dunno, never drove one.
didn't know we were talking about it.
but genesis is NO BMW.
please.
i own a 2008 135 rag top and i am experienced with bimmers.
oh..and next time, how about you try ansering the question?
what IS the difference between the underbodies of these cars?
you know...giving infohelpsin any argument instead of name calling
I'll have to disagree with everything you said except for the last row. That Aviator hybrid is nice, way better than the crappy Explorer.
But for everything above, are you sure you don't need AWD given the snow TX got this year? I've been to Texas and I live in Georgia. Yes, most time you won't need AWD if you only stay on the road. But if you are an active outdoors person like myself who constantly going to dirt roads, muddy roads, light off-roading etc, you will need some extra 2 wheels of power. Who needs an SUV if you never go off-pavement anyway? A minivan can hold more people and cargo, and a sedan is more comfortable to drive.
7 out of 9 vehicles I've owned are Ford products, but I have to say that the modern ford is much worse coming to design, manufacture quality, and interiors comparing to their Korean counterpart. 21.8 mpg on that old 3.5 ecoboost in a sedan is nothing to bragging for. The air drag of sedan vs. SUV is totally different. With that same engine in my F150, I get only 15 MPG.
for the under carriage part, check out the review from savagegeese. They have a session put the review vehicles onto the lift.
@@dearbulls am i "really" sure i don't need awd in texas?
really?
i am so sure that i can tell you i don't need it in chicago, where i grew up.
we never had awd and the first time i ever experienced anything close was the old vw i drove in college. the engine was over the drive wheels.
but we had trucks.
we had cars.
all rwd and with the worst snows ever.
the snow of 1967 and 79 were horrendous.
and our pick ups had bags of sand in then when needed.
i was listening to another review from canada and they were laughing about the "need" for awd. they never had it and know how to drive in weather conditions.
and as for this snow in texas, you obviously don't know much about it.
people with awd and 4 wheel drive were not on the road.
the roads were ice, not snow.
i don't care if you go off-road. but i promise you the gv80 isn't goin with you.
please.
don't talk to me about the mpg of my mks being nuthin.
show me another 445 hp, 450 l\lb per with the same .
i dare you.
ain't no other 4500lb vehicle giving that.
what the hell...!!!!!
really???
who was talking about car to truck, apples to oranges????
i did mention, butyou i8gnored, that the navigator, with MORE POWER, gets better and can use regular.
seriously now....i should get paid for this
This is the Tiger Woods attempted killing car. I won’t buy a luxury car from a brand that want to then have me deal with a Hyundai dealer. No way. Lexus all the way baby.
Seriously? Rofl