How to Recall like a CHALLENGER in 8 Minutes! | Skill Capped
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- DESTROY Low Elo with CHALLENGER Recall Timings!
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LoL Guide Description: In this guide we send Hector to play a smurf game to show how challenger recall timings absolutely smash the lane phase. No mechanics required!
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I thought it wouldn't get any harder than pressing B
you know its smurf when adc have more than 25 cs in 8 minutes
Dagi77 loool
Dagi77 bruh 😂
that makes no since u must be low level
@@MrEccentricities ?¡?¡?¡?¡?¡?¡?¡?
@@julianreyes8096 WHAT
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8 minutes? Ha, I recall in 8 seconds.
Joaquim Ferreira outplayed
Lol i tske baron solo and make it 4sec
Your Father baron? Ill just take rift
I can do it in 3 if I'm playing nexus and get baron buff
😂
Everybody gangsta till Hector start smurfing
Feeling kinda cute, might kill Achilles' nephew, idk.
@@ares1647 jesus what a comment
we sent hector into bronze with one hand tied up and an open stab wound in his chest. watch what he does to get a lane advantage here.
“Low elo Support players playing hook based champions are usually very lost when they don’t see an obvious hook angle” this is so damn true almost whenever I get to play adc
I play leona and I get flamed so hard coz i dont engage while they're under turret lol. I guess a level 3 leona is more OP than I thought?
Haroer Haktak You did not get my point man. I was talking about during laning, hook-based support when they don’t see an obvious hook angle often just move around randomly, stay behind adc, hide in a bush or just roam(basically have no presence in the lane) then made me who play adc have to 1vs2 and being zoned out of the wave. I’ll then often have to decide between sacrificing cs or being at risk of free poke or even get killed 1vs2
Isn't only low elo supports tho. Even in high elo hook supports are almost useless in that position. Best case scenario you land a hook after the enemy make a mistake or if you're ahead and can make a dive, but even if the hook support have good positioning, in most matchups that becomes a 1v2 if you're still even, especially if its against a enchanter/poke support.
@@tienduyvu5192 The problem is, it's very hard to land a hook when the adc is pushing the lane. Why should I die and get flamed on coz I hooked them under a turret? This is often the case and why people dislike playing support.
He's just standing behind his minions... MENACINGLY
"That's it for today"
Me watching 3 or 4 more guides: "is it rly tho?"
4:10 always fix your wave before attending dragon unless drag requires immediate assistance. It's also important to note here that pyke, like most supports goes straight to drag. It's best for your support to assist in the wave reset before going to drag. If drag can be contested numbers advantage after killing bot will most of the times net you the free drag stats. Also saves your jungler from flaming an adc for fixing the wave while he dies.. Same thing for jungler. If jungler ganks and kills, jungler should assist in wave reset without taking any minions and drag as 3+ together. Drag and full reset with wave hitting tower and bouncing is always optimal.
You can't help low elo fix waves. That's why I only play junglers who can easily solo drake like Yi or WW. If you touch minions after a gank, the adc will 9 out of 10 times not understand and think you're just stealing farm then greed for plating.
@@arslanfawkes5992 you know u can help reset wave without taking cs right? just leave the last hit for the adc. Most people use the excuse of fixing wave to actually take a whole wave by spamming the skills.
@@tungha7509 I know, that's why I said "think"
Someone who finally understand
@@arslanfawkes5992 Yet, flaming from adc doesn't implie to change plan:
_Assist wave fix
or
_Assist wave fix with Flaming ADC
Leads to the same outcome.
...Except that it's, indeed, ennoying and may lead him to miss last hit (but that's his pb).
I think learning to recall in a losing lane/against a counter matchup would be more useful. This situation you can make 3 mistakes and still win that lane, but I’d like to know from yas’ perspective and when he should recall to not be so far behind.
He said it, because they shoved the waved in, they should have backed so they we're equal on items, they didn't so they lost the fight.
@Yuri Lopes what do i do when he is fast pushing the lane or freezes the wave near his tower
@@martinpenev3452 If you are behind and the enemy botlane pushes the lane just farm under turret as best you can or try to freeze the lane by dragging the minions to the bush if they ease their pressure on you after pushing. If he freezes lane you have to make your wave crash into their turret to break the freeze,if you are unable to get close enough to push the wave without getting poked or engaged on them unfortunatly you have to sacrifice the cs and hope your jungler is nearby to help you unfreeze the wave.
Learning about recalls is fun when they let you smash lane like this! ^_^
UwU indeed
Quick question. What happens if I am forced to recall with lets say 700 gold due to a lot of poke. Should I try to stay under turret and try to farm my way to 1300g?
@@kagankuscu108 No. Dying is the worst thing you can do because you’d end up losing that huge wave that’s about to crash into your turret anyways. On top of that there’s the 450 gold you lose from the death alone. Just take your loss and recall. If you have tp then you should definitely use it to catch the big wave. It’s also better just to avoid poke in the first place by giving up CS in ranged vs melee matchups. You’ll make it back up after you hit your power spike.
Sorry it took so long for someone to answer but I hope this helps.
Me, an intellectual, looking at the title only:
*Proceeds to always recall exactly at the 8th minute of the game*
This was such a useful guide. I am perpetually taking disadvantageous backs, simply because I don't recognize them as being such.
For example, I definitely would've backed after killing LB, picked up a caufields, and lost that entire bot wave, allowing the enemy to recall on the bounce.
great vietnamese subtitles. Very accurate and fun at the same time! thanks
How about recalling as a jungler? Would appreciate some help on that.
Yessss
Gaming Richard same concept.
Either after first clear or once you have enough for the first item.
Or if you are low hp with no pots.
as a Vi jungler user I recall on my first Quota if i met this two requirements :
1. DR is less than 1min
2. 1k gold (so i can upgrade my jungle item to blue thingy that slows people and an extra for boots or upgrade potion).
then after that straight to DR solo...
it'z all about managing quotas...
survive as possible until you reach the right time...
these 8 seocond jokes are shittier than my love life
That is because you only last 8 seconds
Alex Martin that would be an achievement for him.
@@MP-ut6eb You 2 have some experience together?
@@ashleyx3530 eyy dont talk to my boyfriend
Damn you are killin it in season 10
We need more guides for higher level like diamond , i can´t get to master, this guide is nice if i would be smurfing
5:00 honestly, id back for that warhammer and id get the cs from the wave bouncing back to me, idk
Right. It was a confusing question. He had 2 long swords and I wasn't sure what item he wanted to build. A 1300g B.F. is standard but a 1100g warhammer for only 400g because you have the two component already... VS upgraded boots for 500g because you have a dagger? He could have bought a B.F. and a warhammer for less gold, and then he would just need 900g to finish essence reaver, an item worth 3300. He would have +25 AD and 10% CDR (very nice on MF) compared to an extra 20% AS and 20 MS.
Hm.. I dunno, it's about which flavor you want I guess and how long you're planning on farming until next recall. Considering MF already has extra MS and an AS boost, it's easy to think AD and CDR will make her more complete.
it would be cool if whole guide was just : PRESS B
what is this calming music in the background at the start?
Thank you
This is actually something I've thought about a lot lately. Especially recalling when I don't have to, like after shoving enemy out of lane, I often just shove the wave and recall, even if I can only get a dagger. That's horrible.
That's not always necessarily bad, if it's a free recall and there is no objectives / roams available
@@Aseinwan It usually ends up costing me a couple of minions because they slow push back
6:10 Personally disagree with this purchase. You should just opt for the B.F Sword + Caufield for the extra AD and CDR. MF's damage isn't heavily dependent on her attack speed to the point you rush berserkers. Her passive gives her free movement speed so you have magical boots move speed + passive.
EDIT: Paused the video and realized afterward that he didn't back. He stayed for a wave and got turret plating and ended up buying ER first completely. I agree with this purchase, but if he had backed instead of shoving another wave I still argue B.F + Caufield is the better purchase.
The guy is just challenger, try to hear him and maybe we will improve our skills
@@gwenmonteiro2559 Although your rank is a good indicator of skill, it shouldn't make you infallible to mistakes and subject to scrutiny. I am season 8 masters and season 9 grandmaster adc.
@M5 Critolis Learning is always useful, doesn't matter what rank you are. There's ALWAYS something to improve on, regardless of rank. Good players study. A lot. That's why they're good. They play a lot, and study a lot. Watching a guide doesn't mean you're not challenger lmfao.
@M5 Critolis I'm a grandmaster support and still watch this video, u can always learn anything
That was also what I was maybe thinking. Caufield hammer and B.F. Sword would make Miss Fortune very strong.
What should I do in situations where I'm not ahead or lacking lane priority? I never know when to recall while being constantly shoved under tower.
Next video: How to carry your team by going afk
This is really good for top and mid laners too, tbh.
yeah plat stuck toplaner here and I never really plan recalls, especially as a solution to losing control of lane o: can see this making a huge difference in the match ups I struggle in and not just relying on cheesing with aggression o:
I wanna learn more about the hook champ when they dont have a hool oppprtunity
please make a recall timing video for junglers, i think its much more complex
Okay, how about a vid on when support should recall.
I thought 1700 yo get the caulfields warhammer plus the BF sword but i guess boots are more important. I'ma try to keep this in mind
do vid like this against a lane bully champ. and also what happened when get behind a lil. u guys always go the easy way around.
Double dorans blade... Wave control tactics I never thought of... Damn this is some good shit, can we dive more into this?
double dorans only works on some champs
@@joel7342 Please name an adc on which it doesn't work (assuming a 500 gold back where you can not buy a bigger item)
@@Dragonoid269 Ezreal, Senna, Vayne, Kalista.
In addition: Kog'maw, Kaisa
6:23 why not 1700/2200 for a bf caulfield + boots?
This is another good option :)
2200 would probably be very risky as the enemy could come back to lane with items to compete with yours
Can you do this for mid plz
Can someone explain why the lane state in the beginning is really bad? Is it because the lane is pushed just outside the enemy tower, leaving the MF/Pyke open to jungle ganks?
All these people saying their recall only lasts 8 seconds, true alphas have an 8 min recall
Tbh this start mostly worked because he was playing mf with the passive ms on her w she can easy pull of a lvl 3 recall to get another blade. And cuz of her lane pressure shes able to push most adcs back.
Dear skillcapped: Why doesnt Hector use E on kha at drake (to slow him on his way to the crab speed up since it's the only way to get out [vlad and ww at mid would catch him in the other direction])? + he's sitting on 310mana which enables him to do a full spell rotation having mana for an extra Q and E. Timestamp: 7:22,5
How come he continued to auto minions at 3:26 instead of freezing?
Because he wanted to slowpush so that the enemy laners would feel that their tower is under threat and be forced to stay instead of recalling.
If the wave just froze outside of MF's tower Yasuo and Soraka could get a free recall since their tower wouldn't be under threat.
I dont understand why the first outcome, the slowpush is bad? If they slowpush and the wave stops before the tower then mf can thin the wave and freeze.
However if they fast push and crash, it will bounce back and yasuo will get a freeze. I think in most situations the enemy will push and recall if they dont see you in the lane so i wouldnt have recalled.
Also i think in any elo above silver people will recall after shoving if they dont get interrupted so the third outcome isnt likely gonna happen much.
Feel free to correct me if im wrong✌️
6:00 I said 1800 gold randomly and somehow it was correct.
why is double doran a good buy?
How do I find good Hook opportunities.? New to support role.
Hey im a support main who plays a lot of thresh u can add me on discord for a in dept explanation on that august#5438
That soraka is actual peanut brain. Holy moley
Ok i stoped being main asc 2 seasons ago and i still know the itens gold needs
bring back the old soundtracks :'(
Why (and this is a question that applies more to the meta as a whole) double Doran's instead of Doran's + Cull?
Dorans is super strong early game.
James Watson the hp and scaling lifesteal
Cull although its a good farming item the stats it gives is trash. If someone backs and buys cull and dorans, and the other buys double dorans, assuming both bought at the same time. The side with the double dorans can straight up walk up and 2v2 and win easily.
Does this apply to mid ?
One simple word no.
The way you say dagger just doesn’t sit right with my soul
I don't think it was his recall time so much as his 4 level lead. Unless his recalls were the reason for that.
How many waves do I need for bf? If I schrieb perfectly?
So each melee gives you 21, and each ranged 14. Makes 63 + 42 = 105 per Wave. Then, in the early Stage, every 3rd Wave has a Cannon, giving 60,63,66,69,... Gold. You are gonna Add 20/21/22/... To every Wave. Add to that the gold per Minute you get, divided by the amount of waves per Minute.
Then add Up as many waves as you need to get to your number of waves. Waves every 30 seconds and 122.4 gold per Minute means you get 61.2 gold per Wave passively, making for a total of 186.2 gold per Wave.
That means, you get you Best Friend after 7 waves. If I was to be you, Id Just calculate with 170 per Wave cause I cant lasthit. That leads to you needing 8 waves, which gives a better Base, too since the next Wave is a Cannon Wave then. Dunno why they did Not mention this in the vid, but basing when a siege Minion comes is great, cause the enemy can't Push it as fast and the siege Minion is going to tank the Tower longer, so you dont Miss all that many cs.
If you Base, you can expect Losing about 3 - 4 Minions for it, even if you have good timing.
Marvin Abt good job on putting so much effort into you response
its seems so easy by watching, but there are many many factors u need to respect. Like, how did he know he had to recall right there to buy another Dorans? Its sometimes harder then it seems. sometimes Im with 100hp under turret with 200g and backing buying refillables or 2 pots (depoents) to get immediately get poked down under turret again. had such a game yesterday as Kaisa/thresh vs Aphelios/senna. My premade jungler didnt helped me out of the situation, but thats a story for another whatif.. ehh.. skill capped.
What do to in a losing matchup where u just get stomped out of the lane?
jungle recall pls
I am just curious about him maxing W on MF. Any specific reason for this instead of Q?
MF w Grant's attack speed when activated. It's better if you are planning on extended trades.
@@Lyrxen I've been doing a bit of testing with hybrid-maxing Q and W, find that W is good at maxing when there is a large need for the movement speed
@@mrWade101 doesn't the movement speed only apply out of combat? It seems like the extra movement speed would be wasted during the lanning phase
@@Lyrxen It is only when you haven't been damaged, and you can reactivate it instantly with W.
Pueden poner subtitulos en la pagina de skill capped, porfa :c
What about w skill max?
3:58
*Me:* Go to fix the wave before going to Dragon
*My jungler:* Spam ping "?" me and rages me.
well i know that i am early but most of things happening here can happen by luck in gold elo when the enemy is that bad and your team is playing not terribly , what about a good bot (as good as a gold bot can be)
Imagine games where you can facetank 2 assasins as ADC and winning.
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Does this only apply to the adc role?
Nope!
I do it in 8 seconds and im bronze instructions unclear accidetally ran it down in ranked
Real kings tank tower then slap revive for 3 second recalls 😎
4:45 take the plates apes
5:00 Take the friking Plate
The worst thing is that you learn all that stuff, but then you're in a game with someone who doesn't know what they're doing. And they keep recalling at the wrong time and make wrong decisions
By pressing b.
What do you mean by "adc is about 20-30% weaker throughout the course of the game". Does this mean that adc is weaker than before or weaker than other roles
Weaker than they would be if they recalled correctly.
He says that draven recall at 900 gold, backs with a vamp. Sceptre, Caitlin can just buy a pickaxe for 875 and be ahead.
Cait rushes stormrazor. And even if she did, the sustain would probably be more useful than the 10 ad.
@@Elmy_Kiu cait can either go stormrazor or ie first item, and all I'm saying is if a smart player is playing cait and backed with 900 gold there is no way they would buy Kaiser shard
@@CamaGoesGym Shard is actually pretty decent on this patch for Cait
@@garagavia I did see that however I still prefer to back with bf sword and boots if I can
You talk about low Elo supports being lost when an obvious hook angle isn’t available, can you make a video on what to do in that scenario
At this point you might as well ask him to play for you. You can pressure a lane without throwing hooks just by walking to a good spot on lane. Also you can chill, ward, roam if your adc is safe or you can assist with clearing minions so you get more hook and kill/deny chances. Just always be useful.
Hey i play thresh support a lot and am willing to explain in dept. Add me on discord august#5438
so... recall when you have 1800g. got it. thanks
WAIT. 1 BIG MISTAKE HERE... enemy jungler didn't even try to gank while their bot are so dead
1:00 acording to phreak draven should also buy crit first!
When you see these challengers and the way they analyze the game, its almost like they are a psychopaths😨
in what elo is hector playin'? iron? the enemies are really really really bad
Playing a squishy adc midlane vs a Talon ensures the fastest recalls west of Korea.
My team: yo guys im the first yas in silver to reach 39%winrate in botlane.. meanwhile in the enemy team..
Hector: guys do what u like, i'll carry
4:49 Yasuo and Soraka can overextend and can kill no heal mf but its low elo aswell.
they can, but they're likely paranoid that pyke and warwick are in the area. Seeing as soraka isn't a high kill-pressure support, its mostly up to yasuo alone to make the play.
If their mid laner was alive, it was a different dragon taken other than ocean and say the support was thresh and could both engage / lantern yasuo out, it would be a different story.
Wow. Why do I feel like I'm watching Dora the explorer?
It’s use tp to recall
whoever translated this to Vietnamese should receive a medal, LOL.
Sooooo...what's a "Deygerrr"? 6:19
Hahaha i can recall in 7 seconds
Dregon
Dayger
It triggers me so hard that he didnt wait for 1aa at 4:20 to get the turret plate..
why max w
Let's take a look at a game where Hector won purely of off recalls... adc Yasuo can't do shit because Soraka is afk and trolls after coming back. Teach me this recall strat!!
Why u say draygun and daygur
Needing a guide about pressing b says a lot about League players 😔
How to press B like a challenger.
anyone else here from the LS video
8 minutes psst. i can do it in 8 seconds
i want to show this to bronze adc who always flame their supports
The itemization was poorly chosen, at the first back you could’ve gotten executioners calling and nullify soraka pretty early..
He went Doran's to match their sustain and keep farming. You can't rely on some random support to set up all-in and kill Soraka. I too often buy LS or pure damage to survive and kill healer bot lane in ignite window.
It's all nice and fun when those situations actually happen... But the thing is, when your support has one braincell like that soraka, then it's very hard to actually accomplish that... Play it in silver or Bronze or heck... Even gold for example and you'll get what I mean...
So what happens when the enemy team is overly obsessed with dragon and go 5v2 on your pathetic ass jungler and support while you’re pushing the lane in
Next video, "how to press Q like a challenger"
Why does Hector max W?
Swankey Mankey I’m only gold but I think because yas is melee and he is hella strong spamming w on yas benefits him more since yas won’t really be standing behind minnions cause mf is already zoning him so w gives ms and attack speed so mf can jsut poke him with w.
@@extrinity9329 i am also gold. Every guide I looked up said q when I was checking it so I got confused. I assumed he might have been handicapping himself.
Generally you wanna max q when building lethality and w when building crit. In longer fights using q while your w is still active is not even worth due to the long q animation. You would lose dps. So it fully depends on your items. I much prefer crit and w max.
i have a sharp eye bois
Wow, a gold 2 match awesome...
The enemy bot lane is actually trolling. Try to put a game where the lane is even and the enemy jungler actually knows what to do. The game would be doomed.