Muscle vs Turbo: The New Volkswagen Golf R Takes on the New Mustang in a Drag Race!

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  • ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! The Volkswagen Golf R is the hottest and most capable Golf you can buy, but for the same money you can get a 480-horsepower Ford Mustang GT with a rip-snorting V8 engine. But how much quicker is one over the other? Kase takes each car to the track (and a ringer) to find out!
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  • @ericmorris2831
    @ericmorris2831 Před 2 měsíci +661

    Manual golf VS automatic mustang isn't exactly a fair fight

    • @Marbind
      @Marbind Před 2 měsíci +38

      V8 vs 4Cyl
      High 400hp vs Low 300hp

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 Před 2 měsíci +59

      Yeah fr they need the dsg one

    • @tapout954
      @tapout954 Před 2 měsíci +62

      Both manual or both dct would've been fair.

    • @woocoheed
      @woocoheed Před 2 měsíci +4

      It’s realistic though. Manual take rate for golf R is decently high

    • @bobuncle8704
      @bobuncle8704 Před 2 měsíci +24

      As stated in the video, both cars are essentially the same price, so looking at value. As well, both manufacturers claim an equivalent 0 to 60 time, so should be relatively equal in that department. They did point out most of the inequalities, so they’re quite up front about all that.

  • @Seventh7Art
    @Seventh7Art Před 2 měsíci +311

    DSG makes a huge difference compared to the manual gearbox...

    • @tombentley6329
      @tombentley6329 Před 2 měsíci +49

      The fact a manual was used over a Auto DSG made me sick. This video is a no from me.

    • @edwpolanco
      @edwpolanco Před 2 měsíci +3

      Does the dsg variant come with more hp? If not, the result would've been the same.

    • @DynamicAttraction
      @DynamicAttraction Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@edwpolanco yes it does and it shifts faster then a human Google the golf r manual vs dsg stats

    • @amaldev4150
      @amaldev4150 Před 2 měsíci

      @@tombentley6329 What about 30mph race?

    • @andrezirkler9062
      @andrezirkler9062 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Wrong - just take a look at the diff in performance (as documented by Car&Driver): "2022 Golf R with the seven-speed automatic transmission hit 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds; with the six-speed manual, the Golf R needed 4.9"

  • @morgandrives
    @morgandrives Před 2 měsíci +106

    No one buys a Mustang for interior quality, space, or interior details. It is the engine. Still miss mine.

    • @kazigen911
      @kazigen911 Před měsícem +1

      What happened to it bro

    • @decimator5494
      @decimator5494 Před měsícem +2

      You cant compare a base Mustang interior against the top of the line interior of another manufacturer. If you at least got the premium high option has 5 interior color choices. The base has just 2, all black which you have and black/grey.

    • @Mr0sito
      @Mr0sito Před měsícem +1

      Yes you can bro they cost the same😂 once you add options to a GT they can get up to 65k. You can get M2 for that.@decimator5494

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino Před měsícem

      @@Mr0sitoyup, hope they have fun in their fast rental car😢

    • @sd3564
      @sd3564 Před 13 dny

      @@HD_KerinoI’d take the mustang any day over any bmw

  • @muskcoder6367
    @muskcoder6367 Před 2 měsíci +44

    The DSG in the VW 'R' would have been a better choice.

  • @Rskitalll
    @Rskitalll Před 2 měsíci +180

    For the money the Mustang is hard to beat. The V8 sound is unmistakable

    • @omardevonlittle3817
      @omardevonlittle3817 Před 2 měsíci +3

      its actually insanely easy to beat... like buy a clapped out model 3 for 15k.... leave it in the dust.

    • @fullspeedfordbronco
      @fullspeedfordbronco Před 2 měsíci

      @@omardevonlittle3817M3P for 15K? Where?

    • @Rskitalll
      @Rskitalll Před 2 měsíci +19

      That model 3 will last a month before you need to put more money in to it

    • @PazLeBon
      @PazLeBon Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@omardevonlittle3817 lolololl not all of us are teenagers

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 Před 2 měsíci

      Same thing are saying people in Germany about the price of VW.

  • @john-martin
    @john-martin Před 2 měsíci +200

    The mustang has 100hp more and a 10 spd auto transmission. Would have been better if the VW had a DSG trans.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I agree the dsg would have been better for comparison, but the manual is more fun and has just as good of a time as the dsg, not TOO much of a difference. Sometimes (extremely rare) the manual might actually get a better time off rip. Either way the Volks had it's advantages too.

    • @charlienevergold3654
      @charlienevergold3654 Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@leofhr2966type R DSG O-60 is 4.2 manual is close to 5. No way a manual could ever beat a DSG. Thats why Porsche won’t put a manual is some RS models. The all important lap times were pitiful while testing is manual.

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@leofhr2966 Absolutely not. The DSG does the quarter in 12.4 at 111 mph. The manual is almost a second slower at 104 mph. Not only does the DSG produce more torque, but that transmission never drops boost.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Is actually 141hp more.

    • @tinleo333
      @tinleo333 Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@layne4376 Manuals are fun but they are slow, this is not the 90s.

  • @philjenkins2320
    @philjenkins2320 Před měsícem +22

    The slow mo launch with the Mustang was just beautiful.

  • @redtesta
    @redtesta Před 2 měsíci +57

    $46k for a golf. Never thought i would see that.

    • @orlandosantiago6398
      @orlandosantiago6398 Před měsícem +21

      imagine paying $63k for a mid size Toyota pickup truck lol

    • @goochigoochs3836
      @goochigoochs3836 Před měsícem +2

      Right!?! I still remember our family got a Mustang Saleen S281 convertible for less than $30K twenty years ago. But in fairness, with all the safety technologies and driving aids, I think the price increase is justified in the sense that you are safer with more relaxing driving experience.

    • @BakerGermany
      @BakerGermany Před měsícem +2

      Imagine that we pay that for a standard golf in Europe. The golf R is about 70 k

    • @davelospinoso9022
      @davelospinoso9022 Před měsícem +1

      Just paid 50k for an Acura Integra lol when i was 17, corvettes were 50k

    • @technopong
      @technopong Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, I wouldn't be shelling out for that.

  • @carloscanales6533
    @carloscanales6533 Před 2 měsíci +30

    I didn't buy a mustang thinking someone was going to sit in the back ! Buy your own!

    • @tripsixx5802
      @tripsixx5802 Před měsícem

      I’ve had 5 over the years and the back seat generally gets stripped out right before a/c 😂

  • @JVette01
    @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Next race: Camaro ZL1 10 speed vs Mustang EcoBoost with a manual!

    • @x1boomer
      @x1boomer Před měsícem

      camaro is 💀

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Not a fair raxe 😂 both auto

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      🤣 the ZL1 auto v8 sucks it does 14.7

  • @tizodd6
    @tizodd6 Před 2 měsíci +34

    @5:30 It looks like FORD just glued a couple of tablets onto the Mustang dash😂

  • @davidwatson4723
    @davidwatson4723 Před 2 měsíci +9

    What amazes me is 46000 for a GOLF!!!

    • @tedjones403
      @tedjones403 Před měsícem +1

      Still below the average price for a vehicle in 2024 - I cannot believe what pick-ups sell for - talk about a rip off!

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz Před měsícem

      What’s crazy here where I live in East Tennessee. That mustang 41k and the golf r 48k.

    • @Niedersach3e
      @Niedersach3e Před 14 dny +1

      I mean its a good car you should always Pick the dsg trans

  • @garyjinks7482
    @garyjinks7482 Před 2 měsíci +43

    Auto against 6 speed, where is the DSG not a fair race.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson Před 2 měsíci +2

      With the DSG it would not be a fair race. :)

    • @carpentierjohn7
      @carpentierjohn7 Před 2 měsíci

      boo hoo

    • @jeffkotanko8784
      @jeffkotanko8784 Před měsícem +1

      The manual mustang is faster than the 10 speed auto

    • @bryanfisher9087
      @bryanfisher9087 Před měsícem +1

      No dsg no launch mode vs auto trans with drag mode? Not sure what what they were going for here?

    • @grizzzlyadamz
      @grizzzlyadamz Před měsícem

      @@bryanfisher9087 basically performance cars at same price. That mustang actually $41,000 where I’m at. The golf r $46,000 with manual $48,000 dsg. To me that leaves the owner with 5,000-7,000 dollars to make it quicker and your own

  • @zeitgeist888
    @zeitgeist888 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Wow you have to do a better comparison. First get a better driver for the Golf R if you are going to put a manual against the 10 speed auto Mustang. 16's is atrocious unless you are running in the stratosphere. That is just bad driving. Second comparing a 6 sp manual to 10 speed auto is too huge a difference for any kind of fair comparison. Compare auto to DSG and manual to manual and you will see much closer races.

    • @jasonhabedank7122
      @jasonhabedank7122 Před 2 měsíci

      The driver didn't account for 3 seconds.

    • @zeitgeist888
      @zeitgeist888 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jasonhabedank7122 Closer to 4 seconds. Golf Rs run mid to high 12s anywhere near sea level. Even at altitude it should run way quicker than 16seconds with even a fair driver who knows how to launch and shift.

  • @S650Jesse
    @S650Jesse Před měsícem +4

    5:25 I'd just like to mention, judging a base model 300A package on interior quality isn't too fair. The GT Premiums with the 401A package feel CONSIDERABLY better. Soft touch pho-leather completely covers the drivetrain tunnel, your dash, door cards. There's accented stitching on every surface, the seats are leather, etc. Sitting in the two of them is night and day .

    • @YournameHere-ye6ht
      @YournameHere-ye6ht Před měsícem +2

      Very true. And I optioned mine Atlas Blue with the Carmine Red interior....fire!

  • @mboiko
    @mboiko Před 2 měsíci +70

    What's really crazy is that $46K is now considered a "lower" cost car. Compare Consumer Price Inflation/Index before Jan 2020 to today. They are two different worlds. Maybe we should send another $100B to Ukraine and I say this as someone who happens to be 50% Ukranian.
    Great job guys...!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not quite. But it is approaching the 50k average car cost.

    • @edbowejr6130
      @edbowejr6130 Před měsícem +4

      And people don’t see the inflation or think the economy is doing well

    • @TheWolfMatt
      @TheWolfMatt Před měsícem +4

      @@edbowejr6130 That's the crazy part. You can't even get a basic Honda Civic for less than 30k these days whereas, only a couple years ago, would have been in the high teens.

    • @mboiko
      @mboiko Před měsícem +2

      @@TheWolfMatt Yes, but that was in the "Old Days"...a whole 36-48+ Months Ago. Within the time of a lease agreement.
      You want to really be scared...the US National Debt is increasing now at a rate of $1 TRILLION every 100 days!

    • @deejay2793
      @deejay2793 Před měsícem +3

      Jeez I remember the good old days when you could get a new 5.0 gt for 23k 😂

  • @tomfromeyer6230
    @tomfromeyer6230 Před 2 měsíci +7

    The 24 mustang is sharp! Looks great and drives great 💪🏻

  • @dwarnke72
    @dwarnke72 Před 2 měsíci +29

    My bone stock dsg Golf R ran 12.6 @ 108 down here in Phoenix which never gets good air and is at 1700’. How does it lose 4 freaking seconds going to Colorado?

    • @AlejandroZavalaRichards
      @AlejandroZavalaRichards Před 2 měsíci +2

      Pretty sure they ran it with traction control on, it kills the manual Golf R

    • @joes3689
      @joes3689 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Most tests show Golf R's DSG's running the 1/4 mile without mods in the 12's and manuals in the 13's even if you take away one second for the altitude a manual should run right around the 14's.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Mine ran 12.5 @ 110.39 here in Vegas... it doesn't lose 4 seconds. It's a combo between manual trans and bad driver.

    • @genderlessyoutubefanperson
      @genderlessyoutubefanperson Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@JVette01 Yea, man...tell them, expose this BS video. :)

    • @dwarnke72
      @dwarnke72 Před 2 měsíci

      @@JVette01 when are you taking your car back with the stage 1 tune?

  • @legionmartin
    @legionmartin Před 2 měsíci +5

    When I was younger, build quality was not a major concern or care of mine. As I get older, a balance of build quality and performance is something I consider more seriously.

  • @gregc9220
    @gregc9220 Před 2 měsíci +18

    Man y'all making me want to buy another mustang 😅

  • @anthonyc1883
    @anthonyc1883 Před 2 měsíci +13

    Love the slo-mo at launch!

  • @Maestrodamus
    @Maestrodamus Před 2 měsíci +3

    The slow motion of the Mustang off the line was incredible!

  • @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu
    @OmarRodriguez-ky3nu Před 2 měsíci +6

    Yeah why not do both manual or both auto.. makes no sense

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny +1

      agree not a fair race they make it sound like the mustang is fastest. Bro if they bring the auto golf r the mustang would loose by 1 second. Also they brought mercedez auto wich is great but also not a fair race bc its the worst germain car out of audi volkswagen and bmw. I dont know it looks like they purposly did that to make look like mustang is fast 😂

  • @rockstertx
    @rockstertx Před 2 měsíci +12

    The 5.0 with a six speed manual gear box is the way to go... fun to drive, fun to wake up the neighbors and reliable all day long... hell it even gets decent mileage.

    • @Drako_1975
      @Drako_1975 Před 2 měsíci +4

      You must like being the slow one! Smh

    • @chm2
      @chm2 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Why would I want to wake up the neighbors? Because I am a jerk?

    • @timmy-wj2hc
      @timmy-wj2hc Před 2 měsíci +4

      The kid who likes to annoy his neighbors.

    • @deanhawk7260
      @deanhawk7260 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Oh yeah I have a 6 speed manual and it’s a kick. 1st and 2nd pull like a freight train. Just a few bolt ons and a race tune, and this car is a monster. Auto is nice in traffic and for drag racing but that’s the only advantage IMHO.

    • @anthonye3680
      @anthonye3680 Před 2 měsíci

      Americans don't know how to drive a manual transmission.. every year less and less Americans buy stick .. the wussyfication of the USA is strong. Change the W to a P.

  • @ezekielochieng8941
    @ezekielochieng8941 Před 2 měsíci +7

    We need the 7-speed DSG dual clutch Golf R.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Of course. The manual is limited by the ability of the driver.

  • @Travisj9935
    @Travisj9935 Před 2 měsíci +20

    Omg give the golf R a dsg and make it fair... The Dsg is amazing!
    Omg that guy can't drive a manual!

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci +3

      The guy was awful at manual. Yes, the DSG is a worlds difference.

    • @saigoneze4465
      @saigoneze4465 Před měsícem

      He's 96 what would you expect lmao

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      ​@@saigoneze4465In a manual your trap always same its his 60 foot must be in the 3. My friend first try was also 16@97mph but after 5 tries he did 13.8@97mph but his 60 foot is 2.0. Even your great in a manual your going to loose half a second its not a fair race 😂 .

  • @SubBro22
    @SubBro22 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Loved that Slow-mo at the beginning of the drag race😍

  • @bengilrane
    @bengilrane Před 2 měsíci +16

    16 SECOND QUARTER MILE IN A GOLF R U MUST BE JOKING, they normally run low 13 😳

    • @thatfordguy2268
      @thatfordguy2268 Před 2 měsíci +4

      They're a mile above sea level.
      Air is thinner and It vastly affects performance.
      They have said this over and over, try listening sometime.😏

    • @ContentinMesa
      @ContentinMesa Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@thatfordguy2268 3 seconds seems excessive.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​ @ContentinMesa poor track with barely any grip, poor air (turbo charged barely hets affected), poor overall run, 3 seconds is not shocking chief

    • @voodoodiecast
      @voodoodiecast Před 2 měsíci +1

      Clearly have no idea what you’re watching.

    • @joshjohannsen106
      @joshjohannsen106 Před 2 měsíci

      Turbocharged cars are not affected by altitude the way a NA car is. A NA car loses 3% hp per 1000' elevation a turbo is less then 1%

  • @WaveManMike
    @WaveManMike Před 2 měsíci +3

    Can we get a redo with the DSG Golf R? It would be good to see the difference. I know everyone else is complaining but it’s fair to say it’ll be a successful video after all 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci

      They probably just run what's available to them. Anyone with a brain would've brought the DSG if they're trying to race a car with 171 more horsepower.

  • @stockey
    @stockey Před 2 měsíci +3

    Nothing beats a V8 for the fun to drive.

  • @f3nixfire
    @f3nixfire Před 28 dny +1

    When it comes to value youre not gonna beat the mustang. You can buy a 5.0 for $49,995 with a supercharger installed developing 810 hp and a full factory warranty! Pretty awesome.

  • @joshc606
    @joshc606 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Let’s remember commenters, the Mustang is on All Seasons and the Golf is on Pilot Sport tires. Get a driver with a redline clutch drop and it would have done better but would still lose in the end.

  • @erniefigueroa20
    @erniefigueroa20 Před měsícem +3

    Next time, put a better driver in the Golf R. That car is much faster than that…

  • @orlandonoche
    @orlandonoche Před 2 měsíci +5

    you lost me as soon as you guy showed the vw with the manual transmission (REALLY?) , with a DSG the vw should be able to at least make this video interesting to watch , race the two cars with the same transmission (auto or manual) , is that so difficult???

    • @grantdavis6011
      @grantdavis6011 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, actually it is.

    • @orlandonoche
      @orlandonoche Před 2 měsíci

      @@grantdavis6011yes off course;😮there are just hundreds of mustangs out there with a manual transmission; getting one is such a “difficult task “ to accomplish right? ufff😅 , got it.

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 Před měsícem +1

    The Coyote engine is legend. Then can get a 50-state legal, 750 hp Roush supercharger kit for only $8.5k...

  • @gearjuice
    @gearjuice Před měsícem +1

    I currently own a 2014 mustang 5.0, so I'm not being biased when I say this but ford could have done a better job with that interior. Last week I sat in a dark horse and I was disappointed in the interior for a 65k-70k car. Honestly I prefer the interior of the 2018-2023 mustangs with the digital cluster gauge. Might trade mine in for one of those lol

  • @joshuaenyart5570
    @joshuaenyart5570 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I would be happy having any of these cars cuz they are all a bit of fun and also functional

  • @lightsout6552
    @lightsout6552 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Doesn't the guy driving the Mercedes know how to brake boost?

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci

      He clearly doesn't

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Actualy he did great its a mercedes thats how it is, there not great in performance. They did great to bring another auto but still not a fair race. In fact in germany they buy audi volkswagen bmw porsche lambo. Alot of german avoid mercedes bc they know its not great in performance its actualy more for class and daily drive.

  • @scottmurray3490
    @scottmurray3490 Před měsícem +1

    This is an apples to oranges comparo with nothing unsuspecting to offer. The point?
    Having owned a 2010 V-8 Camaro & Jeep SRT: both absolute beasts - I can say I love my 2024 Golf R manual (soon to be modified to Stage 1) much more. So very immersive an experience and with a short throw shifter & AWE exhaust upgrades- this will be more bang for the book than should be allowed. Oh & it's the best daily driver on the road...

  • @mattigower1479
    @mattigower1479 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Any car buyers looking for a new car probably wont line up a VW Golf, a Benz and a Mustang as a choice. These cars are targeted at different markets. Gotta luv the v8 though. There is no replacement for displacement, no substitute for cubic inches. Sadly, Mustang is the last v8 left in the market now, its all there is, and its days are almost certainly numbered, for now at least. Mustang is a much simpler car technically, service and repair costs will be much higher with the German cars, they are technically more complicated.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Před 2 měsíci

      Well - if parents stop sending their kids to activism camps - I mean - Public school - then we can go back to an economy that is based on reality - not “muh emotionz dude bruh”
      Fathers in homes and home school = will help save the world from the beta males that are working to destroy it

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb Před 2 měsíci +6

    Mustang 💪

  • @PaddyBoy644
    @PaddyBoy644 Před 2 měsíci +41

    Everyone complaining about the comparison between two very different cars needs to understand a company life TFL does’t have a budget of Top Gear so they need to make content with what they have.
    I’m sure they’d love to have a DSG Golf but they might not have had the option.
    Great video as always guys I really enjoy your content.
    Cheers Pat🇦🇺

    • @thewiirocks
      @thewiirocks Před 2 měsíci +4

      While I agree with your premise, I'm a bit disappointed in the way this comparison is presented. There needs to be some sort of purpose. Something they're trying to prove about the differences between them. All they seem to be doing is say: "The Mustang is a better car for going fast." Which is kind of a no-brainer.

    • @Empok_Nor
      @Empok_Nor Před 2 měsíci +4

      They have no budget?? But yet they use a Mercedes Benz 😂

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Empok_Nor you might want to go read that comment again bud, I said they don’t have a budget of Top Gear who could just put an order in to any manufacture for what ever car they desire.

    • @likeatree-ei8it
      @likeatree-ei8it Před 2 měsíci

      Then they won't get as many likes and subscribes. You've got to pay to play!

    • @PaddyBoy644
      @PaddyBoy644 Před 2 měsíci

      @@likeatree-ei8it how can pay with money you don’t have? All businesses have a strategy, I’m sure they’d have hypercars every video if they could.

  • @doug7547
    @doug7547 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Everyone complaining about manual vs automatic. When the turbo and awd also play a hige factor, especially at that elevation.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 2 měsíci

      All meaningless with a poor driver.

  • @leecook7904
    @leecook7904 Před 2 měsíci

    More random car races like this. Different than other channels. I dig it.

  • @g.donuts3551
    @g.donuts3551 Před 2 měsíci +10

    DSG and simply a stage 1 tune on the Golf R and this would have actually been interesting.

    • @scottroberts5529
      @scottroberts5529 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I believe unitronic has a stg1 tune for the R brings up the power figures up to 465hp just wth a simple tune

    • @njo9966
      @njo9966 Před 2 měsíci

      How much would DSG and that tune cost? Silly statement.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 Před 2 měsíci

      @@njo9966 $1000

    • @kevinrotge4774
      @kevinrotge4774 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@njo9966 APR DSG and engine tune would be about $1000 give or take $100.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      🤣 even bone stock auto golf r would smoke the mustang 12.8@108 but this is mk 7.5

  • @nevercedes2070
    @nevercedes2070 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Worst launch I’ve ever seen on an AWD car

    • @harrymaier5727
      @harrymaier5727 Před měsícem

      The computer cuts the power when you put it into full throttle and release the clutch. Is not the driver. If it doesn't you break it in 1 week. welcome to the vw world

    • @nevercedes2070
      @nevercedes2070 Před měsícem +1

      @@harrymaier5727 lol I literally own this car, it doesn’t bog like that , 100% driver issue

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      ​​Yea its a pain manual but a great driver knows not to floor it right way my friend did 13.8@97 yes took him 5 tries but 16 is just probably there only try.

    • @Niedersach3e
      @Niedersach3e Před 14 dny

      Facts the diver cant drive manuel

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 12 dny

      @@Niedersach3e Its not easy trust me it took my friend 5 to 6 tries his first try was 16@97mph 60 foot 3.0 All that change was 60 foot went to 2.0 13.8@97mph

  • @Isha048
    @Isha048 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I don't care the performance, it can be the last car, but the sound of the Mustang gives goosebumps; that's enough for me to buy that car, although the interior is questionable. I don't like any electric cars, not even hybrid ones. Thanks for the video.

  • @Steve-yr5vi
    @Steve-yr5vi Před 2 měsíci +2

    The backseat is actually fairly usable, my kids when they were young loved them. My opinion, it's clear Ford put an effort into making the rear seat usable. The Mustang is appointed with one of the better 2+2 rear seats that can be found. Say what you want about that VW, at a quick glance it could be one of 20 different cars. At a glance a Mustang is instantly recognized. There comes a time when you no longer want a 4 door car, buying a sports car makes a statement in your life. For those in that market; a Mustang is very hard to dismiss. It's hard to say that the shear competence of the Mustang hasn't forced BMW to significantly increase their game with the BMW M cars. Here's your decision maker when comparing a M2/3/4 vs. a Mustang, sure the BMW is a quicker, it's nicer on the inside, however you know with zero doubt, you're gonna be dumping money into that M car to keep it on the road and out of the shop. A Mustang on the other hand is built to drive to hell and back as if were any other day.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 2 měsíci

      Its the incognito factor about the Golf R that makes it attractive.

  • @stevehrocks
    @stevehrocks Před 2 měsíci +9

    The M240i XDrive would be the perfect competition. It’s a 2 door coupe.

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 Před 2 měsíci

      With a tune = deadly launch!!

    • @Joseph.11
      @Joseph.11 Před 2 měsíci +1

      True...but the price is a difference

  • @T3banin
    @T3banin Před měsícem +5

    you need to be drunk to understand this comparison

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics Před 9 dny

      Should have brought the new Model 3 performance.

    • @JoshuaBSams
      @JoshuaBSams Před 6 dny

      I’m too drunk to taste this chicken

  • @thomasjohnson6808
    @thomasjohnson6808 Před 2 dny

    I did not know that 486 was almost 500. Thanks for the useful information.

  • @lffit
    @lffit Před 2 měsíci +2

    Mustang for me, but I don't live in the US, here in rural France, the back roads are narrow so it's the VW or a small Ford!

  • @MichelDominique
    @MichelDominique Před 2 měsíci +4

    Not exactly a fair fight but this in a way proves that there's no replacement for displacement in a straight line.

  • @Asaphunnna
    @Asaphunnna Před 2 měsíci +14

    Bruh yall tripping down here, the comparison is just for fun. Out of curiosity, yall getting ur feelings hurt

  • @tactical_potato81
    @tactical_potato81 Před 2 měsíci +1

    There's just something about the sound and feel of a good old-fashioned American V8

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Slow!! not impressed 13.6 😂 my bros A3 quattro auto stage 1 does 13.0@106 only 280HP 😂 now his stage 2 12.3@111 328HP only.

  • @piotrk1047
    @piotrk1047 Před 2 měsíci +1

    these newer mustangs really do surprise, all and all neat race, Ty for sharing.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      BRO its not a fair race if they bring the golf r auto version he would have done 12.5 🤣 one second faster than the mustang but with only 300HP

  • @dnice362
    @dnice362 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Cmon auto vs auto

    • @joshc606
      @joshc606 Před 2 měsíci

      You can provide the Auto for them???

    • @ridexdrive
      @ridexdrive Před 2 měsíci

      @@joshc606 If they don't have an Auto then the least they could do is not quote stats from the DSG Golf R to set the entire video up. Also maybe explaining to viewers the Sahara-sized gap in performance you get with the DSG vs. the 6-speed. It's neither informative nor genuine to go about it the way they did.

  • @Franz-vg6hy
    @Franz-vg6hy Před 2 měsíci +19

    Dear TFL ,dont mix appels with bananas, they are not the same Fruit ,Ultra fast Automatic with Launch Control against a manual transmission??

    • @zeke63
      @zeke63 Před 2 měsíci

      The Mustang doesn't have launch control.

    • @leofhr2966
      @leofhr2966 Před 2 měsíci

      What launch control ?

    • @layne4376
      @layne4376 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@zeke63 Yes it does. You can set the launch at several different RPM points.

    • @gman3563
      @gman3563 Před 2 měsíci +4

      It's not supposed to be apples to apples. That's boring. The real world exists for a reason. If you rolled up to a light and wanted to race to the next one what would happen. That's what's cool about these comparisons. They are both 46k and built they way they are built

    • @DD-dj4jr
      @DD-dj4jr Před 2 měsíci +1

      Same price……different ice cream flavors…..great content!

  • @puttguy
    @puttguy Před 2 měsíci

    "VW GOLD R " vs Ford Mustang GT at 8:49 made me laugh! 🤣

  • @ekaddo
    @ekaddo Před 2 měsíci

    Great shot, on launch, in slow motion, showing the rear suspension load up

  • @aallien
    @aallien Před 2 měsíci +3

    Agh, no DSG on the Golf. I’d still have the Golf R (with DSG) with the APR stage 1 tune. Better fit and finish on the Golf.

    • @FB6K24Z7
      @FB6K24Z7 Před měsícem

      Lol better fit and finish on a VW 😂😂😂all i see is plastic Garbage 🗑️ inside the cabin even a damm honda civic has a better made and better looking interior nowadays then that golf 😂lol vw clowns these days

  • @MarkRenn
    @MarkRenn Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is why manuals are going away. Slowest shifts. Worst performance.

    • @hwirtwirt4500
      @hwirtwirt4500 Před 2 měsíci

      Manuals are going away because most Gen-Z's can't drive them.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Manuals are fun but 90% of people don't know how to race/shift properly in them.

  • @garysarratt1
    @garysarratt1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’m surprised the VW is only 350# lighter than the Mustang.

  • @joshuaenyart5570
    @joshuaenyart5570 Před 2 měsíci

    I think this is a great comparison! Because I have shopped these two vehicles like you have them! The mustang with the automatic so it could be more controllable for my wife and the comparison of the all-wheel drive with the manual to add a little bit more stability while having a little bit more fun with the manual transmission!

  • @ridexdrive
    @ridexdrive Před 2 měsíci +3

    I understand sometimes you have to work with what you have, but as soon as you mentioned that the Golf was a manual, I knew you guys couldn't be serious about this video. Or maybe you were, which is even worse. If the point was to demonstrate the value of the Mustang in terms of performance, unfortunately, you missed the mark. First, the 0-60 time of just over 4 seconds that you mentioned for the Golf R applies when it is equipped with the DSG. The DSG only adds $800 to the MSRP but significantly enhances performance. Second, you quoted the Golf R as having 315 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque. Again, this would be correct if you were discussing the DSG version, which is not featured in this video. The 6-speed manual version has less torque than the DSG, at 280 lb-ft. There’s no reason to expect a 315 hp sport compact to be faster than a 480 hp sports car, but if you're going to base the entire video around a particular car, in this case, the Golf R, at least use the car whose stats you are quoting. To reiterate, the car you are discussing (Golf R DSG) and the car you have (Golf R 6-Speed) differ significantly in performance. Mustangs and pony cars in general have always offered great performance for the dollar. That's not newsworthy. However, trying to make a point and then choosing the worst example of a car that is already at a disadvantage doesn’t help your case. If the goal is to show how fast a car can be compared to similarly priced cars, the Mustang, as optioned in this video, is actually more expensive than the Golf. I'm not criticizing the inclusion of these cars in a video together, but at least make an effort to properly inform viewers about what's happening. Additionally, continuing to discuss how much faster the Mustang is, as if there isn’t a clear reason why the Golf R ran a 16-second quarter mile (maybe 15 in better condition), is hard to understand. Motorweek recorded a 12.5-second quarter mile at 111 mph in the Golf R. Car and Driver reported the same time as Motorweek, and Carwow reported a 12.3 second quarter. The Mustang in this video ran a 13.6-second quarter mile (assume a 12.6 in better conditions). Don’t skirt around the issue; address it directly. Otherwise, thanks for the time and effort put into these videos. I just wish there was a bit more purpose and understanding behind what is going on here.

    • @evital7527
      @evital7527 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don't even think they used launch control on the Mercedes.

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci

      You couldn't have said this better. You saved me from writing the paragraph myself 😂

    • @JVette01
      @JVette01 Před 2 měsíci

      @@evital7527 This is correct. The Mercedes should've beat the Mustang from a dig if they used launch control and actually started at the same time. The guy started late AND didn't use launch control..

  • @Empok_Nor
    @Empok_Nor Před 2 měsíci +4

    Try comparing apples to apples guys.

  • @tritchie6272
    @tritchie6272 Před 2 měsíci +2

    My take, the Mustang for weekend fun,and the VW for the daily driver family car. The Mercedes while it has a Pretty interior, for some reason doesn't appeal to me enough to spend that much on.

  • @robtech341
    @robtech341 Před 14 dny

    Our next race is going to be a 1997 Toyota corolla with unmatched tires vs. a 2024 Porsche 911. And.............go!
    After watching this I guess you guys have never heard the true saying, "There is no replacement for displacement." You can keep up for a little bit, but given time and length the displacement king usually ends up walking away. Cheers.

  • @Zwikster
    @Zwikster Před 2 měsíci +3

    Less shots of the drivers face driving and more shots of the actual race

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 Před 2 měsíci +7

    So fake, the Golf can be way waaay faster than this!

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 Před 2 měsíci

    That slo-mo launch shot was great!

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 2 měsíci

      It would have been had we has a split screen of the VW.

  • @visakhrajendran741
    @visakhrajendran741 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I would be okay with comparison of mustang v8 manual vs Accord 2T auto (tunned if you can)

  • @norwegianblue2017
    @norwegianblue2017 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Mustang all day. Especially where I live which is close to sea level and never snows, rarely rains. Anyone who would pass on that Coyote V8 for a nicer interior isn't really a car person in my book.

  • @davidclymer2207
    @davidclymer2207 Před 2 měsíci

    Pretty close, actually considering the power difference. Both great cars! Nice to still have some good IC performance car choices at the moment.

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Close !? 😂 bro did 16@97

  • @Driven2Compete
    @Driven2Compete Před 2 měsíci

    You pick the fastest version of the mustang with the 10 speed auto against the golf r in its slowest version in a manual. Line the stang up beside a golf r with a dsg and launch control and see what the outcome is.

  • @gamekiller9043
    @gamekiller9043 Před měsícem

    Such a fair fight… The Americans were too scared to bring a VW Golf R with a DSG….

  • @cndctrdjful
    @cndctrdjful Před měsícem +1

    Id love to see this vs thw dsg golf r. My golf r (older) dsg ran 12.8 all day bone stock. Hot lapped. No tire pressure adjustment. Jsut ran 12.8s the manual version is more than a second slower in the 1/4

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Agree my cousin had a mk 7.5 golf r dsg auto he did 12.8@108. Yes manual a second slower but only if your great at it. Would have smoked mustang by one second.

  • @drluvmuffins3696
    @drluvmuffins3696 Před měsícem

    Coming from the Elantra N, I can't help but love my new s650 Mustang GT. Coming from that Hyundai Ecobox, the interior of my base GT is still a pretty decent upgrade. (far less creaky plastic)

  • @richardbrown1553
    @richardbrown1553 Před měsícem

    Does the GT Premium have a better interior?

  • @skittlesgarage
    @skittlesgarage Před dnem

    While the fun factor of the 6 speed manual is better than an auto, the DSG would have been a much better and interesting race.

  • @merrelljohnson
    @merrelljohnson Před měsícem

    Mustangs with the track options are good for drag racing and taking corners.

  • @markv78
    @markv78 Před 2 měsíci

    Tfl how about adding salom course to these reviews to test handling . Or put them on a track and with the stig . Speaking of which we haven't seen the stig for a while??

  • @honesttechreviews...1713
    @honesttechreviews...1713 Před 14 dny +1

    A DSG would have made a world of difference

  • @crickmay1967
    @crickmay1967 Před měsícem

    the golf with dsg transmission is definitely MUCH FASTER on the 1/8 mile, perhaps also on the 1/4 mile.

  • @rafaelcarazo4768
    @rafaelcarazo4768 Před 2 měsíci

    The difference in transmissions tells me everything I need to know about this test .

  • @googlewolly
    @googlewolly Před měsícem

    As others have said, you should've raced the Mustang against the DSG Golf R.

  • @hondacar
    @hondacar Před měsícem

    An automatic Golf R might have still lost, but the outcome would likely have been tighter. As for a manual Mustang versus a DSG Golf R, it's hard to determine which would come out on top. Perhaps that match-up might be for another day.

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video!!

  • @sander16v11
    @sander16v11 Před 2 měsíci

    I think the “dual screen” interior of the mustang looks better than the one large premium screen

  • @drakensberghiker8565
    @drakensberghiker8565 Před měsícem

    As you Americans say, there is no replacement for displacement.

  • @tjhohman
    @tjhohman Před 12 dny

    I love the vw check engine light on

  • @robervin9107
    @robervin9107 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Tremendous job kase. Five stars. ❤

  • @purplehazers92
    @purplehazers92 Před měsícem

    I wish I could get one for $46k That same mustang was $68k when I went to my local Ford dealership last week. Just a bare bones gt automatic. I hope that the dealership never sells it for that price. I just laughed at the sales person.

  • @3wheelmannc860
    @3wheelmannc860 Před 2 měsíci

    Good comparison among two poplar choices, although not equally matched, but that is fine... you are showing them for what they are and what the possibilities may be for daily real world use...The track bragging rights stuff is chest pounding cool, but getting up at 7 am driving to work and those daily navigations make much more sense. I still think both are amazing, but the Mustang could really be better for that if they would simply remove the back seat and create a quality space back there for general/practical storage for the day-to-day. At $46k they may be affordable muscle type vehicles, but for a daily driver, that price is just not going to work for me. Comfort and fuel mileage are my premium choice.

  • @Corsa15DT
    @Corsa15DT Před 2 měsíci +1

    that golf is 12.5 seconds 1/4 miles. You managed 16 seconds, good test :D

    • @totov7673
      @totov7673 Před 14 dny

      Yup combination of manual and bad driver.
      but trust me even if you get a great driver, you loose half a second alone shifting its not a fair race😅
      my friend went drag racing in golf r manual his best was 13.8@97mph 60 foot 2.0.
      His first try was 16@97.
      exact like in video I bet his 60 foot was 3 like my friend. Took my friend 5 tries All that change was his 60 foot went from 3 to 2.0 his trap same 97 mph.

    • @Corsa15DT
      @Corsa15DT Před 14 dny

      @@totov7673 half a second loss is normal. 4 seconds is unacceptable.

  • @johnathanbusha8919
    @johnathanbusha8919 Před 2 měsíci

    Finally, someone from TFL didnt say an absurd amount of money for a car is pretty cheap.

  • @GenSparks
    @GenSparks Před 2 měsíci

    I love the mustang gt I really do, I now have a golf R manual and will go back to a mustang at a later time bought it because it was the last of the manuals. The golf R traction control is very restrictive and combine that with slow shift I understand why they did a 16sec 1/4 mile. There is no way with the traction control off and in special mode that you would have done a 16s 1/4 even at that elevation hell a regular civic can do that. You need to launch that thing at 5k and shift it like you mean it. They will do low 13 high 12 the golf R engine is underrated will put about 30x hp at the wheels while the mustang will be around 390 just an fyi. Also the mustang traction control is way way less restrictive will still spin the tires under full acceleration.

  • @user-wm5zx5oz1u
    @user-wm5zx5oz1u Před měsícem

    That time for the golf r is shocking. Obviously manual is slower than dsg but I think better driver would get a better time

  • @dham99
    @dham99 Před 2 měsíci

    What about the R vs the AMG? They seem like they'd be a good match due to power/weight ratios.

  • @tbutz21
    @tbutz21 Před měsícem +1

    DSG R is almost a full second faster on the quarter mile than the manual.
    You guys can do better.