I found your videos enlightening. I am following this series as well however I think a summary pointing out the basic reason of creating this series and the crux of matter would be helpful for a simple person like I. Thanks.
امیہ حکومت کے خاتمے کی ایک بڑی وجہ عربوں کی قبائلی عصبیت بھی تھی یعنی مضر اور یمن کی قدیم رقابت جس کے نتیجے میں آپس کی لڑائیوں سے طاقت پارہ پارہ ہو گئی
Equality of human dignity is the main appeal of Muslims that is what we knew. Now I find that Indian PM Modi is correct at least in Umayyad period. In the last speech by prophet (PBUH) this has been declared that in Islam all is equal for all human kind among Muslims.
Why did you catch mu'tazila? Your sources are good, some of them latest, good effort! You should check the namestatus in Arabic or diacritics in English
Umer bin Abdul aziz is called good because he banned the condemnation of Imam Ali and Ahle bayt in Juma sermons. This was practiced since time of Muawiya bin Sufyan. Although after death of Umer bin Abdul Aziz this practice was restarted.
Dr. Sahib, just a humble submission for your consideration. It is good to learn that you usually keep and show yourself a neutral intellectual by issuing disclaimers in your videos in order to make the viewers understand that you neither own or disown certain ideas discussed in your videos. But one notes that in the instant video you have shown a bit casual attitude towards the house of the Prophet(PBUH) and used words like propaganda and rebilan while discussing them. One doesn't think that the person of stature is not aware that it was umaids who revolted against Ali.Moreover, while counting the good deeds of Umar bin Abdul Aziz one doesn't know why did you forget to mention that it was he who stopped blasphemous attitude of clerics towards Ali from the stage of Mosques which started at the behast of Maaviah. One belives it was all unintentional on your part.
Sir Imam Abu Hanifa bhee shaaid Murjite thay......... Mustafa Aykol kee book kay last chapter main kahee parha tha.........Aykol to Murjism ko ek moderate path kay taur pr likhtay hain!
Just a very general question on scholar referencing. - Why do we have more books written by non-muslim scholars than Muslim scholars? - Don't you think that non-muslim scholars might get things wrong since they do not really understand Islamic culture and tradition?
کیوں کہ جناب والا کو عربی آتی نہیں اور اردو میں انکی دلچسپی نہیں اور انگریزی میں زندگی گزری ھے تو صاف ظاہر ھے ورنہ حقیقت یہ ھے کہ ہم آج دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ کیسے اہل کفر کے کتے کے مرنے پہ زلزلہ آتا ھے یورپ میں جبکہ مسلمانوں کے معصوم بچوں کی حیثیت اہل کفر کے کتوں کے برابر تک نہیں تو کیسے وہ ہمارے بڑوں کے متعلق اچھا لکھ سکتے ہیں مغل نے ہند کے لئے کیا کچھ نہیں کیا لیکن ان انگریزوں نے ہندوئوں کے ساتھ ملکر اپنی ایسی تاریخ لکھی کے جیسے مسلمان ظالم بھی تھے اور علم سے کورے تھے
I think non-Muslim scholars are historians. Whereas most Muslim scholars are theologians. The approach of both is very different. But I’ve also read the Muslims scholars. Aisee koi baat nahin.
@@Taimur_Laal Thank you for your message. I meant historians in my above comments. In your opinion, why do you think we have less Muslim historians than theologians?
@@batosatoby the way I’ve also read Muslim historians and theologians. The development of the science of writing history also develops with the general development of social sciences. Our education of social sciences are quite poor.
@@Taimur_Laal That is very true. I have a recommendation for a book written by Ibn Tufail "Hayy Ibn Yagzan" which is an intellectual insight into the way people during the time of Al-Andalus used to think about philosophy. Looking forward to your next video.
تاریخ کو سمجھنا ھے تو انتہائی بالغ نظری کا مظاہرہ کرنا ہوگا ،شیعہ سنی کی بحث میں پڑے بغیر،بنو امیہ اور بنو عباس کی خلافتوں کو black and white میں تقسیم نہیں کیا جاسکتا ،بنو امیہ کی غلط کاریوں کی مزمت ہونی چاہئے اور جو اچھی مثالیں قائم کی انکو سمجھنا چاہئے یہی سلوک اور طریقہ بنو عباس کی خلافت کو سمجھنے اور سیکھنے کے لئے استعمال کریں۔ انسانیت کا حال اسکے ماضی کی غمازی کرتا ھے اور مستقبل کا انحصار ہمارے حال پر ھے کے ہم کس طرح اسکو سنوار سکتے ہیں ماضی کی غلطیوں کو نہ دہرا کر۔۔
What is "matsonay"...big fish kills and eats small fish...that is also holds in deer and tiger relation ship...this was said by schaupenhawer ...ye discover Karna koi bari bat nehi...nehi bari BAAT yeho ko dobara Darwin se kehlana...bari bat Jo Allah ki rasul ne discover kia...o hai pakijgi and excitement ki mixture and that is Islam...that is heart...Plato me pakijgi or sacred ness tha magar koi excitement nehi tha...
Sir whats really wrong with mu, tazila, that in modern islama no one is there to own mutazilad opininos and beleivings i think after Almitawakil abbbasi regime and ulmaas like imaam hunble. Alashri and algahzali made helouriius changes in islam that now in these days no one can think about mutazilla theoligy waiting for your kind reponse
Mutazila theocracy banahi nehi sakte the??? Keu??? gazali to anawela hi the...Islam religion of heart ...not religion of head...so A band of Greek philosophy Pasand mutazila Kuch bigar vi nehi sakta tha...
بنو امیہ نے کچھ بھی نہیں کیا کوئی نظریہ نہیں دیا کچھ بھی نہیں کیا اور اخر میں اکر عمر بن عبد العزیز رحمہ اللہ تعالیٰ علیہ کو سب سے اچھا قرار دیدیا جبکہ عمر بن عبد العزیز رحمہ اللہ تعالیٰ علیہ بنو امیہ ھی میں سے تھے بنو عباس میں سے نہیں تھے
You have misunderstood me. They built a navy, they created a new currency, they built Al Aqsa Mosque. They were state builders. I was explaining the Abbasid’s opinions. I didn’t say that was my opinion. In fact, my view is that we need to view them objectively.
@@Taimur_LaalWell said sir. We should be less sentimental with history. Reasons: 1. I think history recoding by humans is a process which is crude and true history can only be written by angles recording our deeds and they don't miss anything. 2. who is recording history right then as current affairs gets opposition of ones in power. So he expresses it in different words. 3. who records decades after gets different narrations from different chains of narrators and all emphasise events differently leading to complexity in synthesizing. 4. who goes it after centuries narrations become ASSATIR (myths) and truth gets hidden somewhere for ever. God knows the best
@@AdnanHanif-mz3gw I am not advocating this position. Only explaining the historical debate. Moreover, I have given the reference to Hanbali’s book and encouraged people to read it. A separate series will cover the development of Ahle Hadith.
@@Taimur_Laal آپ کم سے کم اپنی بات تو پوری کرتے اگلی قست میں آپ نے وہ دلائل پیش کرنے تھے جو خلق قران کے رد میں تاریخ میں موجود ہیں کیا وہ تمہیں نہیں ملے یا جان بوجھ کر تم نے باتیں گھماکر لوگوں کو گمراہی میں مبتلا کیا
I found your videos enlightening. I am following this series as well however I think a summary pointing out the basic reason of creating this series and the crux of matter would be helpful for a simple person like I. Thanks.
Thanks. Its in the first video.
*پہلی سے چھٹی قسط تک آپکی گفتگو کا مرکز قدر و جبر تھا، مُسلم ریاست میں کوئی بھی اِس موضوع پر نہیں بول سکتا اِسلیئے آپکی مجبُوری قابل فہم ھے،*
سر کمال محنت سے کام کر رہے ہیں آپ سلامت رہیں
Indeed unbaised theoritical narration of Islamic philosophy, Thanks for sharing your views
I studied about it in book Lost Islamic book by Firas al Khateeb
Then I start searching it
It arrives me here.
Always pleasure to hear you Dr sahab ❤
Will be waiting for the Part 9 Mu'tazili 😊
Love you sir ❤
Thank you Sir 🙏🏻
Thanks for Uploading
Long waited
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সত্যি অসাধারণ স্যার। আরো আরো ভিডিও চাই।
Thank you sir ❤❤❤❤
A very good effort to explain Islamic political thought history. Need clearity as that is quite challenging in Islamic world.
More power to u sir✨
امیہ حکومت کے خاتمے کی ایک بڑی وجہ عربوں کی قبائلی عصبیت بھی تھی یعنی مضر اور یمن کی قدیم رقابت جس کے نتیجے میں آپس کی لڑائیوں سے طاقت پارہ پارہ ہو گئی
True. That was a big factor.
Equality of human dignity is the main appeal of Muslims that is what we knew. Now I find that Indian PM Modi is correct at least in Umayyad period. In the last speech by prophet (PBUH) this has been declared that in Islam all is equal for all human kind among Muslims.
Why did you catch mu'tazila? Your sources are good, some of them latest, good effort!
You should check the namestatus in Arabic or diacritics in English
Sir ❤
Aslamuaikum Dr Sab Please upload biography about Imam Al Gazali and explain book as well. Thankyou
Umer bin Abdul aziz is called good because he banned the condemnation of Imam Ali and Ahle bayt in Juma sermons. This was practiced since time of Muawiya bin Sufyan. Although after death of Umer bin Abdul Aziz this practice was restarted.
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That's great
Sir plzz make a video on EH Carr ( what is history)... It's a humble request..
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Dr. Sahib, just a humble submission for your consideration.
It is good to learn that you usually keep and show yourself a neutral intellectual by issuing disclaimers in your videos in order to make the viewers understand that you neither own or disown certain ideas discussed in your videos. But one notes that in the instant video you have shown a bit casual attitude towards the house of the Prophet(PBUH) and used words like propaganda and rebilan while discussing them. One doesn't think that the person of stature is not aware that it was umaids who revolted against Ali.Moreover, while counting the good deeds of Umar bin Abdul Aziz one doesn't know why did you forget to mention that it was he who stopped blasphemous attitude of clerics towards Ali from the stage of Mosques which started at the behast of Maaviah. One belives it was all unintentional on your part.
Sir Imam Abu Hanifa bhee shaaid Murjite thay......... Mustafa Aykol kee book kay last chapter main kahee parha tha.........Aykol to Murjism ko ek moderate path kay taur pr likhtay hain!
Yes. That was one of the accusations against him.
Just a very general question on scholar referencing.
- Why do we have more books written by non-muslim scholars than Muslim scholars?
- Don't you think that non-muslim scholars might get things wrong since they do not really understand Islamic culture and tradition?
کیوں کہ جناب والا کو عربی آتی نہیں اور اردو میں انکی دلچسپی نہیں اور انگریزی میں زندگی گزری ھے تو صاف ظاہر ھے
ورنہ حقیقت یہ ھے کہ ہم آج دیکھ رہے ہیں کہ کیسے اہل کفر کے کتے کے مرنے پہ زلزلہ آتا ھے یورپ میں جبکہ مسلمانوں کے معصوم بچوں کی حیثیت اہل کفر کے کتوں کے برابر تک نہیں تو کیسے وہ ہمارے بڑوں کے متعلق اچھا لکھ سکتے ہیں
مغل نے ہند کے لئے کیا کچھ نہیں کیا لیکن ان انگریزوں نے ہندوئوں کے ساتھ ملکر اپنی ایسی تاریخ لکھی کے جیسے مسلمان ظالم بھی تھے اور علم سے کورے تھے
I think non-Muslim scholars are historians. Whereas most Muslim scholars are theologians. The approach of both is very different. But I’ve also read the Muslims scholars. Aisee koi baat nahin.
@@Taimur_Laal Thank you for your message. I meant historians in my above comments. In your opinion, why do you think we have less Muslim historians than theologians?
@@batosatoby the way I’ve also read Muslim historians and theologians.
The development of the science of writing history also develops with the general development of social sciences. Our education of social sciences are quite poor.
@@Taimur_Laal That is very true. I have a recommendation for a book written by Ibn Tufail "Hayy Ibn Yagzan" which is an intellectual insight into the way people during the time of Al-Andalus used to think about philosophy. Looking forward to your next video.
Follow Quran and sunna , read Quran hadees. Read Islamic law Islam what a beautiful religion ❤❤❤
تاریخ کو سمجھنا ھے تو انتہائی بالغ نظری کا مظاہرہ کرنا ہوگا ،شیعہ سنی کی بحث میں پڑے بغیر،بنو امیہ اور بنو عباس کی خلافتوں کو black and white میں تقسیم نہیں کیا جاسکتا ،بنو امیہ کی غلط کاریوں کی مزمت ہونی چاہئے اور جو اچھی مثالیں قائم کی انکو سمجھنا چاہئے یہی سلوک اور طریقہ بنو عباس کی خلافت کو سمجھنے اور سیکھنے کے لئے استعمال کریں۔ انسانیت کا حال اسکے ماضی کی غمازی کرتا ھے اور مستقبل کا انحصار ہمارے حال پر ھے کے ہم کس طرح اسکو سنوار سکتے ہیں ماضی کی غلطیوں کو نہ دہرا کر۔۔
Abbassids only exploited the karbala incident and mutazila were in hand in gloves.
What is "matsonay"...big fish kills and eats small fish...that is also holds in deer and tiger relation ship...this was said by schaupenhawer ...ye discover Karna koi bari bat nehi...nehi bari BAAT yeho ko dobara Darwin se kehlana...bari bat Jo Allah ki rasul ne discover kia...o hai pakijgi and excitement ki mixture and that is Islam...that is heart...Plato me pakijgi or sacred ness tha magar koi excitement nehi tha...
Sir whats really wrong with mu, tazila, that in modern islama no one is there to own mutazilad opininos and beleivings i think after Almitawakil abbbasi regime and ulmaas like imaam hunble. Alashri and algahzali made helouriius changes in islam that now in these days no one can think about mutazilla theoligy waiting for your kind reponse
Final episode will be the defeat of the Mutazila.
Mutazila theocracy banahi nehi sakte the??? Keu??? gazali to anawela hi the...Islam religion of heart ...not religion of head...so
A band of Greek philosophy Pasand mutazila Kuch bigar vi nehi sakta tha...
بنو امیہ نے کچھ بھی نہیں کیا کوئی نظریہ نہیں دیا کچھ بھی نہیں کیا اور اخر میں اکر عمر بن عبد العزیز رحمہ اللہ تعالیٰ علیہ کو سب سے اچھا قرار دیدیا جبکہ عمر بن عبد العزیز رحمہ اللہ تعالیٰ علیہ بنو امیہ ھی میں سے تھے بنو عباس میں سے نہیں تھے
You have misunderstood me. They built a navy, they created a new currency, they built Al Aqsa Mosque. They were state builders.
I was explaining the Abbasid’s opinions. I didn’t say that was my opinion. In fact, my view is that we need to view them objectively.
@@Taimur_Laal But they were Lanati people. Killers and Tormenters of Ahlul Bayt.
ہمارا مسئلہ یہی ہے کہ ہم پوری بات سمجھے بغیر دوسروں کے خلاف گولہ باری شروع کر دیتے ہیں اور دوسروں کو برا بھلا کہنا شروع کر دیتے ہیں 👎🏻
@@Taimur_LaalWell said sir. We should be less sentimental with history. Reasons:
1. I think history recoding by humans is a process which is crude and true history can only be written by angles recording our deeds and they don't miss anything.
2. who is recording history right then as current affairs gets opposition of ones in power. So he expresses it in different words.
3. who records decades after gets different narrations from different chains of narrators and all emphasise events differently leading to complexity in synthesizing.
4. who goes it after centuries narrations become ASSATIR (myths) and truth gets hidden somewhere for ever.
God knows the best
آپ جواب دیں کے خلق قران کے رد میں جو دلائل حنبلی ہیں انکو کیوں نہیں دیا آپ لوگوں کے ایمان کے دشمن بن رہے ہیں
@@AdnanHanif-mz3gw I am not advocating this position. Only explaining the historical debate. Moreover, I have given the reference to Hanbali’s book and encouraged people to read it. A separate series will cover the development of Ahle Hadith.
@@Taimur_Laal آپ کم سے کم اپنی بات تو پوری کرتے اگلی قست میں آپ نے وہ دلائل پیش کرنے تھے جو خلق قران کے رد میں تاریخ میں موجود ہیں کیا وہ تمہیں نہیں ملے یا جان بوجھ کر تم نے باتیں گھماکر لوگوں کو گمراہی میں مبتلا کیا