‘It's Leading to Family Separation’: Indian-American Doctors on Green Card Backlog | The Quint
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- The current estimated wait time for Indian nationals entering the green card backlog is 195 years to get permanent residency in the US. Indian-American doctors argue why that's unfair, what the Biden Administration could've done and why they won't give up on protesting until their demands are heard.
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Hello, guys i understand they must have gone there for money or for a better life style . But there must be a lot of them who have studied alot more get into the prestigious institutions up there. The Doctor is a person who risk's his life for others . And Doctors are for all humans( no matter what race they are).
Lets respect their feelings and revive ours too what we are thought here in india.
I apologise if i have said anything wrong.
You are right
Why ?? that was their own personal decision to go to US...
@@tarundev7609 at the end, they are Indians and humans too.
@@gusneverdied okay then these NRIs should deposit all the money which these NRIs have taken in the form of subsidy while studing in IITs and AIIMs or other government institutions because at the end they haven't given back their services to the Indian society ... And you should also know this that countries like Japan also taxed these kind of people or kauvas who use to leave Japan to serve others COUNTRY
Skilled Indians are there in India and they migrating from ancient times .. it’s not like we here in India don’t have any skilled it’s just we are too many to fit in few jobs.
For one state position or central position Lakhs of people are applying and if they don’t get job may , just few of them will go for counties like US and Uk. While there is no shortage of workers in India.
It’s not just US many India. Immigrants face these issue in different countries. If everyone of them come back we can’t provide them jobs .
People who are born in Dubai ( uae) will get green card in like 2 or 3 years . My Indian friend married a keralite girl (born in uae ) and got green card in 5 years. Well .
Indians born in uae don’t get the uae passport, uae doesn’t grant citizenship to Anyone on the basis of birth! Wrong information Sir!
@@SALEHAMEENA you are wrong. USA looks at the country of birth for Green card purposes, not citizenship.
@@SALEHAMEENA Green cards are given based on the country of birth,not based on passport/citizenship
So UAE or any other foreign born Indians get Green Card in just 5-6 yrs
Oh ok... I thought he meant that they get passport... I wasn’t aware... thank you so much you both!
I’m an immigrant from India and in the US. I hope this video goes to Mr. President’s kind attention. Please help immigrants, the backlog is really causing tremendous damage. Please help us.
Lol you wanted it.. 😂 why begging now. Didn’t you know what the problem was with American system?
Why doesn't anyone want to come to Canada? Its a wonderful country and Canada is barely making its immigration targets.
Because Canadian job market is nowhere comparable with the American job market. On top of that, the weather is also quite harsh.
Why doesn’t anyone want to move to India? Same question
Makes sense. The wait of 80 years for a GC, sounds like it’s worth it.
Ye jo comment section me gadar aur deshdrohi b bol rahe hai comment section me agar unhe aisa chance milta to vo pehale bhagate or waha par gareeb ban jate lekin india nai ate. Ye sab opportunity ka khel hai. India me to nai milega unhe
During early year of 1900
...many italians left there nation...and arrived in the US but US favoured only germans and british....so they faced the same discrimination by the government
So what? A small country in Europe is the same as you populous country that can eat the whole world resources if they get green card?
iska sunke uska sunke US toh pahunch gaye.... ab exit kaise karoge... that is the question
Apka matlab kya hai
@@shashibhushanvishwakarma matlab h ki bas suni sunayi bato se log US chale jaate h. Kuch ghanta pata nhi hota immigration ke bare mein aur fir jhelna padta h khudko bhi unko aur desrving logo ko bhi green card nhi milta in gadho ki vajah se
@@saviour8381 Par life mein sabhi gamble khelte. Kuch hi log jeetenge.
@@shashibhushanvishwakarma Gamble khelna padta h sirf deserving logo ko, aur jo bs apna muh utha k jaa rhe h unko to vaise bhi kuch farak nhi padta , they were already a failure anyways.
@@saviour8381 I know life is not straight line.
Indian citizen’s citizenship is questioned in India, so better stay in wherever you are
Well they are illegal immigrants allover India.....
Recently illegal bangladeshi even reached banglore....
Chako can you tell exactly where was it questioned ?
If Any illegal immigrants found in USA what they will do with them.... Same thing is doing Indian government. What's wrong in that?
@Chacko Different issue, not related to this video
With present pandemic situation green card, offline class are all over
At one side we don't want to give citizenship for poor Rohingaya migrants from Bangladesh but at the other end demanding citizenship from US ...wow 👏
Rohingyas don't add any value to Indian economy.
Immigrants add huge value to the US economy by studying Masters,PhD's and paying taxes by doing high salaried jobs.
You can't really compare both Rohingyas and Indian immigrants in the US,Both are poles apart.
@@Sandesh-lz2nk my point is when you are in alien country you should respect the laws of that land and not demand anything to change their policies...
@@haranmit hmmm... Sounds like *slavery*
@@haranmit rohingyas desh se bhagao
@@Sandesh-lz2nk and why should they get the green card even then? They never gave jobs on the pretext of getting green card. Work there and go back home when you are retired. There is no compulsion for the country to adopt them. Same rules goes every country.
Don't think these doctors will move an inch even if the laws are unchanged... India is in dire need for good doctors... Why can't they take experience from here and help their own country rather than demanding changes to US immigration? All the countries in the world need a chance and there cannot be any demand to make one country dominate and steal all the GCs... Respect the law of the land...
Stop chain migration and DV. Stop family sponsorships
Reservations sent them all to the US
I also want Green card. 😐
You'll get in somalia
You're asking equal rights in a foreign land? You told your Visa officer that you will stay in this country only temporary until your studies is over and then come back to India, no you won't this country to change its loss of treating people equally wherever they're born just to give you green cards? Do you think it's fair for someone from Africa to wait for 10 years just because you can get ahead of the line. Stop living in fantasy land and India honestly needs a lot of us trained doctors so please go help your motherland
YES. It’s like a zero sum game.
Welcome to bidens america.....from trumps america
If u think trump is good than god save u
Trump was the one who made immigration difficult
This is the scenario despite Modi’s failed Namaste Trump stunt.
Joe biden gov hai vaha🤣🤣
@@arundhokate804 bruh Biden actually hasn't started his governance over there abhi filal trump ki gandagi ko saaf kar raha hai
@@arundhokate804 and ye jo doctor face kar rahe hai vo trump ki vajah se hi kar rahe hai
There is a group in this country who wake up daily shouting bad about Modi and goes on to blame him for everything.. LITERALLY EVERYTHING..Even if there is a hole in their underwear, it's because of Modi.😂
Out of your mind or what?
Just fight... Don't give up
Their country their rules
Are Sir in India you want citizenship to be decided on religion and US you want on creditability? Andhebakt they are asking for citizenship in Christain missionary country. Except RSS everyone treats human equally
Exactly
Bro ur mad? No one gives citizenship based on religion and bullshit Rss treat human equally.
@@nareensankar9721 CAA?
@@maheshtambe9535 yeah exactly that's india
want to clarify that this 7% rule is discriminatory against Indians and Chinese. When H1B visas are granted disproportionately to Indians and Chinese, then no one says that there should be a 7% country limit on H1B visas and that people of Indian or Chinese origin should not get more than 7% of the H1B visas. But when it comes to giving Greencards, then they don't want these same people to get Greencards. The lawyers and USCIS make money on this frequent renewal but keep innocent people locked in Greencard hell. They are giving H1B to Indians and Chinese to make them work, but everybody other than Indians and Chinese get the Greencard as the wait is 195 years for Indians and 18 years for Chinese. So get the work from Indian and Chinese and discriminate them. If that is the case US should advise people of Indian and Chinese origin when applying H1B that they have no chance at all of ever getting a Greencard!
Many politicians have talked about Greencard reform in the USA, but nothing has been done for the last 15-20 years. This is like caste, class, race discrimination. The fact that they can discriminate on the basis of the country of birth is downright unfair. But Indians and Chinese mmigrants are only here to be exploited.
Anyway the de facto message of Republicans and Democrats both is the following: Indians and Chinese not welcome! I only say this to many young students whose only fault is that they have an Indian or Chinese birth certificate. They say US is the land of opportunity. Actually it is The LAND OF DISCRIMINATION. Final message of US Government: INDIAN AND CHINeSE GET OUT!
Mostly Indians
@@meetube30 Yes it is racism against Indians and Chinese
@@amberheard2433 but what can you do? You don't need to sit here and suffer, you're free to leave
@@meetube30 It is not about needing to suffer. It is racism and should be opposed. Injustice must always be rejected. Do you support this injustice?
How can they expect other country to accept them as citizens while their own citizens are facing unemployment? Will indians accept the same when it happens to us? No. Every country needs to look after their own citizens first. All these people could have stayed back or returned back to their own country to serve the people who have a bad doctor patient ratio.
see, the difference is that there is no long wait times for folks from literally every other country (besides China). Either the US should shut its immigration altogether regardless of where you are from or treat them equally.
@@fatredditmod The wait time is due to their existing percentage limit. When people go on H1B for education followed by a few years of employment, that visa never promises them citizenship. Professionals however can expect citizenship considering themselves as contribution to that country. But the country still has rights to stand by it's percentage limits in issuing citizenship to the immigrant population. The wait time is higher for China and India due to the number of immigrants. Because China and India have huge population, USA can't increase the percentage.
@@srivallichilakamarri7508 Well, the argument for removing per country limits is that, skills don't vary between races. A software engineer from India can be just as skilled as someone from Iceland. US has a separate diversity visa for diversity purposes.
Unemployment in US not in IT, Tech sector. Infact they have shortage.
The US knows this very well, that the backlog is huge for Indians. So the best thing would be to cut down incoming Indians for now, until a proper plan can be made. What's the point of taking in people if you can't afford to let them stay?
They are not citizens nor can they vote for the elected officials. The govt are more focus on the voters needs first because the officials want to keep their jobs. They can rally amd complained all they want. But they knew what they have limits on from the initial interview.
When the guy started talking about race, he lost me. It’s about volume of people. Quotas. Period.
Do we have any right to protest?
The reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. DThe reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. Dr. Manik Madaan got educated in India and then leaves for the US. 400 million people live with zero health care in India, they are dying because people like Manik Madaan are selfish and leave for the US to live a life of comfort, wealth, and fame while the people of India suffer. Boycott Doctors born in India in the name of justice for the Indian people!
In short you reap what you saw. Why not ask this questions to your sleep President Biden and your aunt kamala harris? If not ask chaiwala.
If they are racists & segregationists why don't you leave such a place? They have quotas for every country but you want extra share for a country and accuse them of treating unfairly. In which other country can you call the people or the government racist to their face without facing any repercussions. Before you take credit for serving them acknowledge that you also take a share of their employment and educational opportunities.
Very truue
Come and work as ASHA worker in india.....very developed and prosperous ndia
BS. Doctor from India isn't treated differently doctor from Brazil, China, Philippines, UK, Germany, Pakistan, Poland or any other country. There's no racism. All countries have 7% cap. It is there to keep US diverse and competitive.
it's your problem, india or indian can't help you !!!!! you can leave india for your benefit than face this problem ... we are not interested in your problem !!!!!
The reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. DThe reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. Dr. Manik Madaan got educated in India and then leaves for the US. 400 million people live with zero health care in India, they are dying because people like Manik Madaan are selfish and leave for the US to live a life of comfort, wealth, and fame while the people of India suffer. Boycott Doctors born in India in the name of justice for the Indian people!
Sorry but i dont agree . They have gone there to work and study, even if they are front line workers they never did a thing for zero dime. If they would have been in India they would working against Covid, in UK the same. It is the job they chose. No country has any obligation to provide citizenships.
just 3 folks?
You just need 1 to start a revolution...
This is no revolution... It's their selfishness, agar unme ek ko gc mil jata hai to 'revolution' ke bare me nahi sochenge
These people completed their studies on subsidies provided by the Indian government, money collected from the tax payers, used for their studies. Studies finished, left their own country for a different foreign country, now getting kicked on their asses, well this is what they definitely deserve.
Still worth it, these folks would earn more money in 1 year that your sorry ass ever will in your lifetime.
@@fatredditmod yea you're right so let's demand our govt to make an arrangement for people who wants to leave India by taking their actual annual payment or else just substitute their medical seat to someone before they leave.
That's only applies to those studies in NIT, IIT I guess. Now most students going to US are from Private colleges and are not tax subsidized.
Doctors are treated miserably with no work-life balance in india . It's not always money.🙏 Infrastructure ,toxicity, low salary pathetic attitude towards residents inhuman treatment aalso are driving source. I know enough PPL who don't go to us just for money but to also free from misery
And all leaving aren't even from govt but mainly from private colleges . Only those who can afford lakhs can give mle and leave.
Instead of blaming them whi not ask govt to keep them safe and satisfied .
Not asking salary to increase to 1 cr a year but they don't even get salary of few thousand on time
Deepanshu kumar you are just being jealous. Goodluck living in India 😂😂😂😂
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Just go back....
Kya he izzat reh gayi doctor hone ke baad bhi
Pitai toh ni ho ri hai atleast
Obviously they do have to think about their own civilian first why the hell they will give you such privilege . They came to in power not for you guys wake up. It was better to work get experience and should come back and start work for your country. At least you guys can learn better first world culture rather to spread your culture with them. France is also doing the same thing. Okay. Soon every country will do the same policy.
I hope that the US doesn't drop the quota. It really makes no sense for them to drop the quota and open the flood gate for people from single country to immigrate. People crying over the issue knew that there was a backlog, and it makes no sense for them to cry over this.
So stupid! Not all countries can get 7% …. Percent means 100!
7% is a limit per country - the problem is that there are too many people from India. If a million people from UK or wherever applied only 7% of them would get it.
On top of that - Indian citizens get spillovers amounting to anywhere between 15-25% of available green cards.
The purpose is to make sure one country doesn’t overwhelm the system and take over USA influence by one country.
I agree medical professions need a different path. But certainly the US doesn’t need 75% coders from one country - and that’s what these doctors are stuck behind. Indian tech companies based in USA who swamp the H1B program. That needs to end
Namaste Trump
Guys come to INDIA, Ram mandir is under construction!
Do some free good for your own people!
@pikachu poll One must surely get the thing which was of others which they destroyed in front of the world! And now you seek sympathy. No, you won't get it!
Not on this earth and hereafter.
It's about right and wrong, and you have already chosen the wrongdoings!
Also, teach this part to your other followers.
And yes you said it all correct about
quoting you- 'whereas in India people have full right to do anything'
They bluntly kill and become PM and home minister.
Is the supreme example!
They can simply do an American version of CAA and NRC.
Then a middle finger to all Indians(incl. green card holders), who came to America after 1984(or any random year).
And this can be defended by saying it's to save their ethnicity from encroachers(Indians).
The reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. DThe reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. Dr. Manik Madaan got educated in India and then leaves for the US. 400 million people live with zero health care in India, they are dying because people like Manik Madaan are selfish and leave for the US to live a life of comfort, wealth, and fame while the people of India suffer. Boycott Doctors born in India in the name of justice for the Indian people!
What a jackass, NRC is for illegal immigrants , these doctors are not there illegally 😂😂😂
An euphemistic form of slavery
Incorrect. H1B is just a status. They still get paid good money from their employers, considering what was spoken here was the high tech, or medical doctor fields.
They should All return to India their Motherland where their Services are Required.
Why on Earth are they are Shamelessly Squatting in the Racist U S.and Bootlicking the Americans.They must understand that ultimately Mother India is where their place is and which will treat them with Love and Respect and where they lead a comfortable life.
That is completely true. But they don't get the same life in India
Wish it was that easy!
They migrate there thinking that the quality of life will improve. The problem is that what society defines quality is materialistic. When they find out that they cannot get a green card, their freedom and happiness erodes away irrespective of how much money they make. In the end, they always get this gut feeling of not being a part of the society, being an alien.
Exactly. And people won't listen they are still an Indian but trying to show as American
A lot of problem with this comment section.
1. The nation-alist bullshit that if one leaves his/her coun-try its because he/she hates his/her coun-try. The money sent back by this people help Ind-ia more than you could ever by staying in Indi-a.
2. Indi-a doesn't offer them better life, if that was the case they wouldn't have left Ind-ia in the first place. It's because Indi-a doesn't have jobs that they leave, or the jobs that do exist doesn't offer the right money.
Also if they would have stayed in In-dia there would be further unemployment here. So immigration of Indi-ans to other countries is good for In-dia not bad.
The reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. DThe reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. Dr. Manik Madaan got educated in India and then leaves for the US. 400 million people live with zero health care in India, they are dying because people like Manik Madaan are selfish and leave for the US to live a life of comfort, wealth, and fame while the people of India suffer. Boycott Doctors born in India in the name of justice for the Indian people!
India has zero infrastructure. Why somebody wanna work in a place where there is no access to quality of life. We live for ourselves first and then for the others.
It's government responsibility to provide better healthcare infrastructure and pay to doctors. The developed nations have leaders who focus on such thing. People in India still believe that materialism is bad. It's not bad. When you have access to good quality of life your will to work increases.
India has huge problem with sanitation and hygiene. What's the use of earning even decent amount in India when you can't breathe fresh air, walk on a clean street.
No problem guys come back and become self reliant and India needs you guys
That'd be stupid
Lol they're such hypocritical trash
They don't want to help their fellow dalit caste but expect this
If u r facing so much problem them go back to your own country .. y r u still there Mr.Pranav Singh .. ? It's a saying by many that once we reach US who want to come back to India .. ?? Everyone wants good luxurious leisure life... If u feel india is giving evrything then come back .. y u want to stick to stay back in America?? Lol
Stupid because america is far better than india
@@sarthakmonga9107 then why are these people crying??
They need to earn more money that is the reason.
Brain drain is a big problem for india but politicians ignore that and focus on communalism , there would be only 1 percent of the people who would want less money and stay in india with a cheaper quality of living and leaving great opportunities that america gives (with some disadvantages) to live a better life.
I know many of you would be like oh fuck off , we will stay in india no matter what , but deep down you know you are in the 99%😂
Naayare.... kittatha mundhiri pulikkum
More opportunities in India stay in India. Better life than US and UK.
You can live a peaceful and undisturbed life.
Lol 😂😂
😂😂😂
Peaceful life in India under Bjp government arey waaah👏
Lmao
*peaceful and undisturbed* ?
😂 These are the kind of people who in the time of war sides with the country who's winning it citing freedom of expression and movement...
These are the Mir Jaffars of today's India... Who wants everything readymade...
Shameless guy begging for green card from a country who doesn't want to give them anything but its fine they can beg anywhere they want but don't bring India into it . You forgo India then you can't cry in name of India .
Tf? Shameless? You are being shamless ffs. Why did they changed their country huh? Doctors make more than enough right? Because what America gave them was something scarce or perhaps non existent in a drowning company like India. Don't call someone shameless just cause they want to change their country.
@@area51raider50 India's current condition is because of people like you.
@@avg_user-dd2yb Thanks! But well, give some credit to the politicians too.. I don't like to take the credit alone you see.
@@area51raider50 shameless they are . And it seems you are too . Ppl jump ships all the time and so does ppl commit crimes . But one should be pardoned in the name of there birth country is hypocritical . They can beg all they want on merit of their boot licking skills alone . My country have problems true but no other place i would call home except India. I had many chances to migrate into different countries but i choose my home always.
@@akc1510 It seems. But you know, Call me traitor for abondoning my roots, but I don't wnat to decay both my skills and my youth living in a country with next to no appreciation for talent, nor for skills or hardwork. Canda can offer me that with no indifference and in a better way. And if you think I abondened my home, you are dead wrong. It was to make sure that the home keeps standing. Do you really think someone will leave their home just to wear better clothes or better lifestyle? I wouldn't even have had my frickin house if it was not for canada. My own country neglected me, but Canada didn't. I grt the right to choose the country I love despite my origins. Call me shamless or selfish, but I have no shame to say that my heaft is devoid of any love for this country.
Trump 2024😂😂😂😂
you all are well experienced doctors , come back and give service here you will earn more than you earn in other countries .
No u won't my mom studied in a good government collage in india and did her pg in india and started working in government hospital since 1997 but my dad is a software and earns more than her
@@ananyabollu8596 yes u r right , but in private hospitals they can earn much better than govt . govt job mai kuch nhi hai
Yes, India is changing. But I don't support expensive healthcare like the US!
Sir, do you think that these peaple will come to India after seeing doctors getting beaten every single day ?
I'm also a medical student in India and i'm preparing for PG in US.
You guys are not Indian! Stop painting your situation with bringing India into your personal issues! Rather living here and brining change and fighting for betterment here, You left this country for your own personal welfare. Now don’t cry like a cry baby! Enjoy the $$ and the strip clubs there!
The reality is India has 1.3 billion people, they have one doctor for every 10,000 people in India. Dr. Manik Madaan and others got educated in India and then leaves for the US. 400 million people live with zero health care in India, they are dying because people like Manik Madaan are selfish and leave for the US to live a life of comfort, wealth, and fame while the people of India suffer. Join the movement and boycott Doctors born in India in the name of justice for the Indian people!
Thwy study in India. Then Practice on poor Indians. Then want Green card shame.
'poor' is the word, money is the motivation
@RYUGA PLAYS it will make sense if you understand English.
@@ryugaplays1934 But if they so talented they would have got the general merit seats anyway. Looks like they couldn't that too.
Wow with so much representation of Indian western media like Brown queen Priyanka Chopra and one and only South Asian Indian political advocate Kamala Harris 😂😂😂lol this is the reality? aur jao "First World Country"👍👍
family अगर कैरियर से इतनी जड़ा important हे तो क्यों गए usa?
Just come back to India .you guys will get a good job here.
Their concerns are genuine, if they were to give citizenship to every migrant on any basis; it will eventually be the reason of mass migration.
There is also irony in this as Western countries bash India for implementing the same.
& In the end everyone who has slightest of edge over average Indian they pretend or at least show-off their superiority.
Have a lot to say but for now this is it.
Keep on begging....it might work!
Aur jau US mein. Abb maja aah raha hein
Paise ki hawas le dubi.
@@avg_user-dd2yb 😂 sehi bola
Hahahaha sahi kaha. Paise kamao experience lo or wapas aao nai wahin rahenge. ye andar se Indian hii hain. They won't die for US. Trust me. Wahan kii bhi society corrupt karenge
Good job Mr Biden.
Come back to India. What's the problem.
India is a third world country 😂😂 p why would anyone with some brain cells choose 3rd world country over a first world country..
No good future in india
, bcoz they don't want to come back😂😂 nobody will choose hell
@@infantcharles1900 which country are you from? Are you in us because of your parents?
@@buntysonawane5750 honey !!! Atleast I have a choice to stay here or come back to India 😂😂 , I'm lucky I'm not a Indian 😁😁 living in India (the country is a total crap) with absolutely poor standard of living .
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