Defecation was explained in the anatomy picture. Everything he eats is converted by mineral stomach into carbon soup that is then filtered by kidneys and excreted through the skin to form new layers of his armor plates. So in other words, he shits through his skin and his armor is made of solidified shit.
He was also on a time limit. Thanks to the recruits of the Future Foundation, Ben sheds his rocky shell once a year, turning back into his human form, which is why his rocky shell was falling off so easily. His shell was ready to fall off on his honeymoon, and his evil father-in-law, Puppetmaster, was going to use Hulk to kill him when he was de-powered.
@@saucevc8353 the matter he consumes is used to maintain his rocky exterior, as a rock monster hes not supose to move so hes constently breaking and cracking with each movement of his joints. The food he consumes is use to restore those on the fly
@@quatreraberbawinner2628 The comment implies Hulk was out for an actual significant amount of time though. If you haven't actually read the comic. You'd read it thinking Ben even had a remote chance of _winning._ Even in a combat sport like Boxing. Ben would have been finished because Hulk would have beaten the 10 count and Thing would have no strength left or useable arm.
Everything about him is made out of rocks and the fantastic movie said that his blood was replaced by sand so he most likely releases either some white sand or dust. That just raises the question of how long does his seed stay alive outside the body?
Granted The Thing also hard carries the FF in a lot of fights. It's not just that he's super strong and stuff, it's that he can tack a licking and keep on kicking through pure force of will.
@Philip Hockenbury : Agreed. Ben's ability to go the distance against stronger beings is virtually a superpower in itself. Ever see when the Elder of the Universe, Champion, challenged Earth's vastly strong types; wanting to prove his superiority using Terran boxing rules? He disqualified Hulk for going 'Hulk-wild', Namor for not being at full strength out of water, Thor for using Mjolnir; and KO'd almost everybody else. But not only did he respect Ben's boxing skills; the Elder was so impressed by Ben's refusal to stay down for the count, no matter how hard & repeatedly he battered him; that he conceded victory to him. One of The Thing's greatest victories was won by refusing to accept defeat.👊
Now I'm glad Ben decided to not get on the ship with Reed, Sue, and Johnny in Marvel Ruins. From what his anatomy looks like, I'd imagine the guy would just be in agony all day every day.
With how the other members went, prolly would end up either a rock or something akin to I have no mouth yet I must scream. I think the worst thing is; that if Ben went with the others. Ruins could’ve been avoided, at least that’s the general idea
i'd say for the defacating part, his extremely thorough stomach, rather than processing food, just completely dissolves matter into energy, leaving no waste or urine
Ever saw a dog? I'm pretty sure he has skinless dick that can be hidden under this rock stuff or come out of it. Since the rock is just his skin, it's pretty much how bananas work.
@@doctorfear9241 this is the rule. I think it comes from Hickman's run, it was a present from Mister Fantastic' kids (Valeria and Franklin) and Future Foundation as a whole. They cured Ben, but the downside is he only turns human for one day. This day is the only time when he is getting old, so Thing is going to live for thousands years.
@@looniemoonie5955 and that, thats completely messed up, i feel for Ben and Spider, but what do you mean by, they cured Ben, did they cured him enough to go back to normal for one day or they cured him for good, and also, Franklin should be able to cure Ben, shouldnt him?
His nerves could be of a conductive metal, like copper, or silicon. Looking at the anatomy drawing I kinda imagine his stomach as a sort of furnace, like a coal fire.
Or his stomach acid might just be that much more potent that they can actually dissolve metals and minerals. Possibly with some naturally generated gastroliths that serve to grind down hard materials so said acid can function more efficiently.
@@dethkruzer Okay, like, what would or could occur as kidney stones to humans, in his modified digestion/excretion system, could kick back through the cycle and serve that function.
@@r.a.fgattaiguy845 hard to say. The thermal conductivity of minerals can differ greatly, but even if it was more on the insulating side, it isn't a solid shell. The soft tissue underneath could also have something comparable to sweat glands to help regulate his body temperature. But I think it's unlikely his body temp would be too extreme unless his cellular metabolism was a lot more resistant to changes in temperature. Even if his rock shell had insulating proper, and his metabolism required extremely high or low temperatures to function, then his body would have to constantly expend resources to maintain that temperature. Although all this is assuming that his cellular metabolism functions in a generally similar fashion to a human.
It's actually all rock (more or less), his guts and stuff are made of silicone instead of carbon (and other rockier elements instead of the usual biological ones), having an analog to every organ but with a composition and function slightly different to adapt to it's new form. Also, apparently in it's rock state he doesn't age, so thats something.
marvel characters usually have hidden facets to their powers. for example, mystique can change her gender (and produce sperm); cyclops' optic beam actually doesn't generate heat, but only concussive force (the movies portrayed it wrong); and wolverine's blood gives vampires the ability to walk freely during the day.
In the case of rocky nerve system, I have a solution. Some types of quartz crystals can generate a voltage when compressed. They're used in watches to power the clock mechanism instead of a mechanical spring. So perhaps the nerves were replaced with strand-like structures made out of quarts or a similar crystal Also, the Thing cracking his whole arm to knock out the Hulk is such a rad scene, and we probably won't ever see it in the movies, probably for the best also
Ever saw a dog? I'm pretty sure he has skinless dick that can be hidden under this rock stuff or come out of it. Since the rock is just his skin, it's pretty much how bananas work.
this makes me think of a natural alien computer that evolved through abiogenesis. a bunch of silicon and metal arranged themselves in such a way that they could process their environment with a nervous system of semiconductors
what comic is that thumbnail from? it reminds me of how the creatures from A Quiet Place have armor plates on their faces, and how it expands when they listen.
Since his original leathery hide hardened into rock, l've always assumed he still had some of that hide underneath. The story where his rock breaks off kinda confirmed it to me, except he's apparently softer underneath than I'd've thought. The scenes of him being cut by Wolverine is like ghosts of arguments past for me. The Thing, Hulk, or anybody else w/ hide, armor, etc. that can withstand tons of force being sliced up by Wolverine makes NO d@mn sense. An unbreakable blade doesn't mean one can automatically penetrate any/all materials of lesser structural integrity. You'd still need strength, or at least mass, to put sufficient force behind that blade.Something approaching the target's structural integrity of your target (or could ANYBODY w/, say an adantium pocket knife could dismantle a heavy battle tank?). Yeh, Wolvie's disproportionatly strong for his size, but even IF he can supposedly generate tons of force since his "upgrade"; he certainly couldn't do it then. Ironic that a character whose personality was based on Ben's gets to ignore physics due to the appeal of that persona; but Ben often had/has one of his primary powers ( his rock-like resistance to injury) downplayed for the benefit of other characters.
I saw somewhere, in an old comic i belive that said ben's rocky skin was tougher then diamonds Colossus from the x-men has bio metal skin that is as strong as diamond Wolverine could barely cut him It tool a few tries hitting the same spot But he couldnt cut right trough him
@ uu : Thanx. The inconsistency proves my point. He should have a very hard time cutting any of them, IF at all. Yet he's sliced into both Ben and Hulk w/ relative ease; but not Colossus. Maybe such sloppy writing only applies when he's not fighting another X-Man? Even worse than cutting Ben's face was him jumping onto Hulk's shoulders & popping his claws directly into the Hulk's brain ( due to Hulk's mindless rage state & high regeneration, it wasn't as harmful as one might think; but -). Considering the structural strength of Hulk's skull, at best Wolvie should've just been pushed off by his own claw muscles; or, at worst he should've torn through his own arm tendons.. But again, no in-story logic, just sloppy writing.
His claws don't exactly cut like most knifes but I've read somewhere that they cut between the molecular structure of things Which means there isn't need for much force to cut through basically anything
That's comics for you, they are as inconsistent as they can. In one issue Spiderman survives an abomb like it's nothing and the next gets his ass handed by some normal thugs.
Well in Ultimate Fantastic Four # 8 Reed asked if Ben still goes to the bathroom. Ben replies with "yes. You don't want to know the details". So... here's this. I know it's a different universe, but I am pretty sure rules are somewhat the same.
There an animated series of the fantastic four In one of the episodes you can see ben's toilet in the background of hes room It has like grinders and crushers on it
Different Universe usually equals different rules and since you're talking about the Ultimate Universe, Ultimate Ben's physiology is vastly different 616 Ben's. Especially when you take into the fact that Ultimate Ben has a purple humanoid form th at he can turn into at will after going through some type of caterpillar to butterfly phase.
This shows how powerful The Thing is. If he can blow off his entire arm from 1 punch and then knock out hulk's whos punches he could withstand before is really surprising. The Thing is underrated
Hulk was going easy on Ben, there was this one comic where Logan and Ben fought the Hulk (while he was bald) and Hulk took a chunk of Ben's face and crushed it effortlessly. Granted I do agree though Ben is heavily underrated he has shown time and time again that he has enough power to knock out beings who are on par with the Hulk and yet writers always just turn him into a punching bag. Granted I will cut writers some slack because they haven't turned Ben into a punching bag since 2016 I think.
@@CrucibleBlack13 My apologies for the long response I hate doing this and reading them, but I have a lot to say. If you read the dialogue and see what's happening you can quite easily see that Hulk/Puppet Master were both messing around. "Don't worry I'll make sure to tell you right before you die", "I want you to feel every moment of this..." , "I'm the Hulk and I love smashing the Thing", and "I'm the Hulk and I'm just getting started... " Puppet Master wanted to relish the moment and watch Ben struggle and fail to fight the one person he has never beaten by himself (before that moment). Devil Hulk just likes to fight that was made abudantly clear in the Immortal Hulk run. Hulk is capable of ending a confrontation between the both of them quicker than Ben ever could. Also you're right this isn't the first time Ben has KO'ed Hulk it the second time he's KO'ed Hulk and its the first time he's did so by himself. The first time was when Hulk still needed to breathe and Sue put a force field around his head cutting off air and making him lightheaded enough for Ben to knock him out.
In those notes it mentioned that any food matter that isn't digested is used to repair his rocky exterior. Makes sense, since the plades would be constantly grinding away at once another.
There is the possible but terribly concerning possibility that any waste might be excreted as the epidermis, as in his waste is part of what makes the layer of rocky skin
The Thing does have a junk, Stan confirmed it in a interview with Vanity Fair he said and I quote "I guess common sense would say it was made of orange rock too." Not to mention it's kinda always been implied that he has one and that he still needs to use the restroom to especially since I vaguley remember him having a restroom in his room. Also if he didn't have a junk some writer would had most definitly been made Ben run around naked like the Abomination, A-bomb, Groot, and so on in daylight with any shadows covering him from the audience. Though even if he didn't have a junk I would have assumed that he would have had a cloaca like some birds and fish do.
I think a lot of people think he is made out of rocks...He's not. His physiology is SO dense that it just appears like rock, but it IS actually flesh...His skin is so dense and dry, that it cracks and flakes like stone, but it is in fact organic, and actually MUCH stronger than any rock. And yes the Thing does have a "thingy"...All his biologics function just as a normal human, just in a form much more dense, powerful and tough.
So it's like a turtle shell with extra steps. It looks like rock, has the same consistence but it's not. Which means an earthbender would not be able to control him, But which also means he would not be immune to the petrifing power of Medusa. It makes sense, even because "made out of rocks" is vague AF. Rocks are made of way many meterials, and I don't think Ben's skin is part of the list.
@@HypercatZ His skin is pretty unique, so it's hard to compare with anything, but I'd say more like a crocodile skin than turtle shell, but that is still the same basic idea.
Maybe the suit has a built in dispose system... Or crud I don't know, hopefully they explain that one in Marvel's Spider-Man 2... If they bring him back for that one that is.
There are two possible answers to this question stemming from different sources a) there is a part of the armor in the back that can be removed so he can do his job and b)there is a pipe like system inside the suit that ends up in the foot area so yeah in some versions he shits from his feet
His suit is no longer stuck on his body that's been stopped being a thing after Spider-Man created a acid that dissolved the suit. Ever since then his suit has always been able to come off.
You should cover more Fantastic Four comics. They're consistently really fun and wild to read with a lot of pathos and cool visuals. The original Stan Lee and Jack Kirby run is particularly insane. Honestly weird hearing Ben Grimm being called the Thing so much in the video, personally. After reading so many FF issues, you stop thinking about their superhero names and just call them by the people underneath. It helps that as a family, they hardly call each other by their superhero names. It's funny you say that Marvel can't have one of their staple characters be "going through it," because most of Ben's publication history since 1962 is pretty much just constant agony and it's only post-2010s that he's finally allowed to be permanently happy.
These breakdowns of a marvel character and their morphological traits is actually a really interesting video, I'd love to see more like this, like maybe a breakdown of the hulk from different comics or the different biological versions of Peter Parker
As for the 'rocky nerve endings' think of it like a turtle shell. It's actually bone and quite sensitive, they feel everything. In Rock case, I imagine he'd be able to feel vibrations rather well since rock can amplify some frequencies.
So in normal human standards his last punch on hulk is just like ripping the skin off of your arm... The agony. And i can't even imagine the stress of hearing and feeling all the creaking and grinding all over his body in the first few months that he had that body. Like Rocks: "Every breath you take, every move you make, every skin you break, I'll be haunting you."
"Because Marvel can't have one of their staple heroes going through it (implied pain), unlike other heroes." Yeah, it's weird to me how Marvel really loves to torture the spider.
@@J-manliThe only agony that makes him relatable is having to balance two lives often times resulting in the destruction of relationships. I don't see how fighting a Vampire and getting your eyes ripped out makes him more relatable. I don't see how getting violently imploded makes him more relatable. I don't see how getting tortured by literal gods makes him more relatable. Please be fr.
Okay was that diagram you found official art? And whether it was official or not the answers a lot of questions. But one thing it doesn't answer is how he and Alicia had kids and so many different universes. Also for some reason Ben does not age as long as he does not return to Human. Initially he was supposed to be able to turn his powers on and off like everyone else in the Fantastic Four but for some reason his ability to control his power turn them on and off got screwed up at least according to the Future Foundation storyline.
I believe this diagram was from a slightly older but official marvel book on the ways the heroes powers and abilities work, but like the video explained that in most canon versions he's still got all his functional organs in his body still although many fused or changed to support his new form and it is also explained that his skin is rock like not actual rock it's more akin to a more advanced version of an armadillos shell, so he can still feel even through his skin although most likely somewhat lessened and still has his reproductive organs which means he can have sex and help produce children.
Here's a better question: once a year Ben reverts to his human form for 24hr. If Ben impregnates his wife, will she give birth to a rock baby or a mutant child like Franklin Richards?
This is the big reason as to why I love The Thing because its understandable how at first he would see himself as a monster i mean anyone who had to live like that would but then he proves to himself and the world that he's not a monster but a true hero.
For the last one another factor was he was changing back, it’s why his rocky epidermis was so fragile also since it was already coming off (it’s revealed that once every year or so he actually does return to his human form) that punch had also broken his arm since it was literally the last second
Just because it works like teeth doesn't mean it needs the same nerve density. Those don't do anything for structure. Also: Even if it was exactly like that, Thing would simply be used to it. Quick experiments to validate this at home: Close your eyes and cover them with your hands. This will ideally block out all light. If that happens you will still see something which is the background noise of the visual nerves. But your brain put it on full amplification because its not getting a satisfying response. Same works for hearing. If the environment is silent enough you can hear your own pulse. Many people might have experience with that lying in a silent room with your ear on a pillow. It's all about your brains interpretation of the signal, the signal is always pretty garbage.
Oh wow someone finally took the time to find a character that most people are not paying attention to for the popularity of the character. Take the time to go deep in to the background of the character making this character a lot more interesting for the future. super fantastic job dude!,,,,,'!,
bro, i finished watching/reading all about the thing like 2 weeks ago and you come up with this video... Absolutely my fav marvel character, is like my father.
Forget questions like why do we exist or if they're is life out there in the universe or how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop... THIS is something folks should discuss about!
Imma be honest, I don't often like it when a character that's not Thor or Abomination beat Hulk but...Thing breaking off his whole arm just to knock hulk TF out goes hard
I don't think we need imagination. That anatomy diagram you showed us noted something about how the kidneys make a "stone soup" which gets excreted by the plates. I think that he does pee- he pees orange rocks from his skin. He is basically one big kidney stone.
That's what makes the Thing the Thing, he may not be the strongest or the toughest, but he has a lot of heart and strong willpower. That has always been his schtick.
I wished they had made Ben win more often in his fights because while this is cool and all it's pretty sad that this was his only win against the Hulk without any help.
From the movie , looked like the Thing is just covered in rock based skin plates and under that is thicker than normal flesh , his blood is Rocky bits with a clear fluid .
I remember reading a comic book where Susan was helping gather information on his mutation in an effort to cure him, and she told Ben she would have to watch him defecate. I don’t remember the comic name but I swear I didn’t dream this up
Well to explain rocky nerve endings let start with tidbit 1: Nerves Transmit electricty thrugh some proccess If we include elements: than any kind of electricty conudcting metal would work (iron, gold, aluminimum for instance) If we want full on rocks like crystals: Than quartz crystal is your friend. When bent or compressed it generates electricty. So theoritically quartz based nerves could work!
I have a question: Are you planing to do a video about every comunity post you made or yust some of them or none because those would be a good idea for a video?
Originally his skin was like leathery dinosaur hide. I'd think the outer layers progressively hardened into intolocking rocklike plates. Maybe similar to armadillo, turtle, or even anklyasaurus shells.
Also, I kinda wonder how The Thing would be able to medicate himself through severe pain with traditional painkillers like regular people can and how his body would be able to process them, or if he would be able to feel the painkilling effects of medication due to his digestive system at all, considering he can risk essentially breaking what feels like teeth off of his outer dermal layer in the ways you mentioned you could imagine he’d experience a ridiculous amount of physical pain from his encounters.
I have two theories: Theory A: like his ears, the soft tissue of his thing has been completely grown over; meaning he just has a hole where his junk is, the rest of it is concealed within the shell Theory B: (this one is more optimistic) the things things comes out of his body like a dog’s thing.
@@ronn-ammon8975 Someone should do a Batman movie where one very determined lawyer/prosecutor/whatever is sane enough to prove the Joker's sane enough to get the death penalty and not have any nonsense going on behind the scenes where Batman tries to 'save' the day so Joker won't get executed.
Idk why, but I remember vividly seeing a movie in which Ben Tennison. Ben fucking 10, became the Thing. And I never questioned it until the last years. Maybe I understood it wrong, but I even remember him being like “The omnitrix is no longer here! This is the new me!”
You might be thinking of one of the live action ones, there’s one alien transformation that kind of looks like rocks growing on him, and that line is probably from when he gets transformed into a copy of the villain
I think its organic rock, which can build and growth just like another organic parts. Its like shrimp's shell but more thick and harder. And also mutation which grant super human strength.
He almost fought him in Sceret Wars #8, but his powers were on the fritz so they didn't fight. Granted I'm pretty sure Carl could absorb his skin, he's once absorbed the Hulk's skin in Immortal Hulk #36 and he's also absorb the metal skin of the teenage mutant called Mettle in Avengers Academy #7 so it's possible he could do the same to Ben.
Never ending stream of kidney stones
The literal meaning of hell on earth.
Never pissed out a kidney stone but I'm assuming it hurts.
@@thefirstofthelastones8952 imagine trying to force a frozen pea out your urethra its a lot like that it is so bad
I was thinking about this since a week ago. At a certain point, can you gain enough pressure to use it as a weapon?
Ouch dudeeeeee. Poor thing
Defecation was explained in the anatomy picture. Everything he eats is converted by mineral stomach into carbon soup that is then filtered by kidneys and excreted through the skin to form new layers of his armor plates.
So in other words, he shits through his skin and his armor is made of solidified shit.
I sincerely wish I had not read this
WHY DID YOU MAKE THIS
@@something-mk2ux Because people didn't realize the answer when it was right in front of them.
How was this not pinned? Thank you, bro.
Huh, so it's like the guanine crystals in spider-exoskeleton.
The Thing using all of his strength for a punch that breaks all the rock shell off of his arm and leaving it exposed sounds metal as fuck, holy shit
Special Move: Sunday Punch
@@johngona5929 nah its clobber in hour
Goodbye, One for All.
could you imagine punching somethin/someone so hard that the skin of your whole arm just explodes of? Yeah, it's like that but waaay worse probably
He was also on a time limit. Thanks to the recruits of the Future Foundation, Ben sheds his rocky shell once a year, turning back into his human form, which is why his rocky shell was falling off so easily. His shell was ready to fall off on his honeymoon, and his evil father-in-law, Puppetmaster, was going to use Hulk to kill him when he was de-powered.
He might not need to defecate.
He might have 100% efficiency in digestion, allowing him to fully break down what he eats.
If that’s the case then he just made Taco Bell his bitch
100% efficiency? Does he have antimatter in that stomach?
that's still impossible, he's gonna have leftover matter that needs to be removed
@@saucevc8353 the matter he consumes is used to maintain his rocky exterior, as a rock monster hes not supose to move so hes constently breaking and cracking with each movement of his joints. The food he consumes is use to restore those on the fly
@@pyrolee17 no way the thing is eating shet
The Thing knocking out The Hulk and breaking his arm in the process is raw af.
Literally as it exposes his flesh.
Probably the only comic where he’ll be able to do that
I mean Hulk got back up not too long after I think lol
@@mee091000 no shit, he said KO not killed him
@@quatreraberbawinner2628 The comment implies Hulk was out for an actual significant amount of time though. If you haven't actually read the comic. You'd read it thinking Ben even had a remote chance of _winning._ Even in a combat sport like Boxing. Ben would have been finished because Hulk would have beaten the 10 count and Thing would have no strength left or useable arm.
Everything about him is made out of rocks and the fantastic movie said that his blood was replaced by sand so he most likely releases either some white sand or dust.
That just raises the question of how long does his seed stay alive outside the body?
Your really asking about his lil rock tadpoles 💀, to answer that problably just a little longer than normal human-
@@GG-lk4xfrock tadpoles
I can’t 😭😭😭😭
white sand dont sound right bro ☠
@@riodacres2982 white powder instead?
Man's about to put dust into a girl
All his friends get cool powers and he just gets 🗿
Yea any guy can turn rock hard and we don't even need a cosmic radiation. What the big deal
@@looniemoonie5955 nah fr tho😂😂😂
Granted The Thing also hard carries the FF in a lot of fights. It's not just that he's super strong and stuff, it's that he can tack a licking and keep on kicking through pure force of will.
@@philiphockenbury6563 okay they could’ve made him super strong and indestructible and still look human
@Philip Hockenbury :
Agreed. Ben's ability to go the distance against stronger beings is virtually a superpower in itself.
Ever see when the Elder of the Universe, Champion, challenged Earth's vastly strong types; wanting to prove his superiority using Terran boxing rules? He disqualified Hulk for going 'Hulk-wild', Namor for not being at full strength out of water, Thor for using Mjolnir; and KO'd almost everybody else. But not only did he respect Ben's boxing skills; the Elder was so impressed by Ben's refusal to stay down for the count, no matter how hard & repeatedly he battered him; that he conceded victory to him. One of The Thing's greatest victories was won by refusing to accept defeat.👊
Now I'm glad Ben decided to not get on the ship with Reed, Sue, and Johnny in Marvel Ruins. From what his anatomy looks like, I'd imagine the guy would just be in agony all day every day.
Well we do kinda get to see what would happen in the form of Dr Doom. His insides turned inside out and hardened like rock.
With how the other members went, prolly would end up either a rock or something akin to I have no mouth yet I must scream. I think the worst thing is; that if Ben went with the others. Ruins could’ve been avoided, at least that’s the general idea
You'd think having special rock nerve endings would make it not a living hell, but I guess we'll never know.
Well, the entire reason of why marvel ruin is soo dark and bleak is because Ben didn't go inside the spaceship,
@@luca-ou8pv him getting in the spaceship didn't create Galactus tho
i'd say for the defacating part, his extremely thorough stomach, rather than processing food, just completely dissolves matter into energy, leaving no waste or urine
Girls when on the internet: "How to apply eyeliner wings"
Boys on the internet:
*yes*
*when you're a girl but this is what you search on the internet* Bold of you to assume I care about eyeliner.
As a woman who just came from a makeup video, not sure how to process that. 😅
technically, he's ALWAYS as hard as a rock.
Well, that could be one reason why some women, who aren't as blind as Alicia, still find him attractive...
PS- I mean, that & his attractive physique. Guy's built, to use an old southern phrase- "like a brick $h!+house".
mhm😏
The Thing is bricked up.
Ever saw a dog? I'm pretty sure he has skinless dick that can be hidden under this rock stuff or come out of it. Since the rock is just his skin, it's pretty much how bananas work.
Also in that Thing vs Hulk comic Thing can turn back to human once a year and that's what the watch on his wrist was counting down to.
But, why just once?
@@doctorfear9241 this is the rule. I think it comes from Hickman's run, it was a present from Mister Fantastic' kids (Valeria and Franklin) and Future Foundation as a whole. They cured Ben, but the downside is he only turns human for one day.
This day is the only time when he is getting old, so Thing is going to live for thousands years.
@@looniemoonie5955 and that, thats completely messed up, i feel for Ben and Spider, but what do you mean by, they cured Ben, did they cured him enough to go back to normal for one day or they cured him for good, and also, Franklin should be able to cure Ben, shouldnt him?
@@doctorfear9241 he could but he just didn't lol
@@prophecy5886he genuinely does try to find a way but for some godforsaken reason he cant
You never answered the question about the Thing's thing.
His nerves could be of a conductive metal, like copper, or silicon. Looking at the anatomy drawing I kinda imagine his stomach as a sort of furnace, like a coal fire.
Or his stomach acid might just be that much more potent that they can actually dissolve metals and minerals. Possibly with some naturally generated gastroliths that serve to grind down hard materials so said acid can function more efficiently.
@@dethkruzer Ahhh! Yes! Good call. The way a bird, for instance, needs to eat gravel to crush its food. I like where you're going with it!
@@dethkruzer Okay, like, what would or could occur as kidney stones to humans, in his modified digestion/excretion system, could kick back through the cycle and serve that function.
if his body is completely covered in rock would his regular body temperature be really high or really low?
@@r.a.fgattaiguy845 hard to say. The thermal conductivity of minerals can differ greatly, but even if it was more on the insulating side, it isn't a solid shell. The soft tissue underneath could also have something comparable to sweat glands to help regulate his body temperature. But I think it's unlikely his body temp would be too extreme unless his cellular metabolism was a lot more resistant to changes in temperature. Even if his rock shell had insulating proper, and his metabolism required extremely high or low temperatures to function, then his body would have to constantly expend resources to maintain that temperature. Although all this is assuming that his cellular metabolism functions in a generally similar fashion to a human.
The thing will never not make me uncomfortable. He always looked like a very polite mass of scabs
Never realized that the thing wasn’t just rock. I thought it was like a sand man type situation.
Im pretty sure hes half human half that rock alien from thor
@@uu4052 nah but that is a very similar design
It's actually all rock (more or less), his guts and stuff are made of silicone instead of carbon (and other rockier elements instead of the usual biological ones), having an analog to every organ but with a composition and function slightly different to adapt to it's new form. Also, apparently in it's rock state he doesn't age, so thats something.
marvel characters usually have hidden facets to their powers.
for example, mystique can change her gender (and produce sperm); cyclops' optic beam actually doesn't generate heat, but only concussive force (the movies portrayed it wrong); and wolverine's blood gives vampires the ability to walk freely during the day.
In the case of rocky nerve system, I have a solution. Some types of quartz crystals can generate a voltage when compressed. They're used in watches to power the clock mechanism instead of a mechanical spring. So perhaps the nerves were replaced with strand-like structures made out of quarts or a similar crystal
Also, the Thing cracking his whole arm to knock out the Hulk is such a rad scene, and we probably won't ever see it in the movies, probably for the best also
Ever saw a dog? I'm pretty sure he has skinless dick that can be hidden under this rock stuff or come out of it. Since the rock is just his skin, it's pretty much how bananas work.
this makes me think of a natural alien computer that evolved through abiogenesis. a bunch of silicon and metal arranged themselves in such a way that they could process their environment with a nervous system of semiconductors
Bang on, it’s known as the Piezoelectric Effect, did it for my dissertation this year ;))
Why “probably for the best”?
Piezoelectric neurons is actually a pretty cool concept
Are we gonna talk about the thumbnail I got chills from it.
yh i feel very gross out from looking at it
what comic is that thumbnail from?
it reminds me of how the creatures from A Quiet Place have armor plates on their faces, and how it expands when they listen.
Trypophobia is a motherfucker
Just leaving a comment here in case an answer comes this way.
@@tropichawk850 Trypophobia
Since his original leathery hide hardened into rock, l've always assumed he still had some of that hide underneath. The story where his rock breaks off kinda confirmed it to me, except he's apparently softer underneath than I'd've thought.
The scenes of him being cut by Wolverine is like ghosts of arguments past for me. The Thing, Hulk, or anybody else w/ hide, armor, etc. that can withstand tons of force being sliced up by Wolverine makes NO d@mn sense. An unbreakable blade doesn't mean one can automatically penetrate any/all materials of lesser structural integrity. You'd still need strength, or at least mass, to put sufficient force behind that blade.Something approaching the target's structural integrity of your target (or could ANYBODY w/, say an adantium pocket knife could dismantle a heavy battle tank?). Yeh, Wolvie's disproportionatly strong for his size, but even IF he can supposedly generate tons of force since his "upgrade"; he certainly couldn't do it then.
Ironic that a character whose personality was based on Ben's gets to ignore physics due to the appeal of that persona; but Ben often had/has one of his primary powers ( his rock-like resistance to injury) downplayed for the benefit of other characters.
I saw somewhere, in an old comic i belive that said ben's rocky skin was tougher then diamonds
Colossus from the x-men has bio metal skin that is as strong as diamond
Wolverine could barely cut him
It tool a few tries hitting the same spot
But he couldnt cut right trough him
Id assume it would be even harder to cut ben
@ uu :
Thanx. The inconsistency proves my point. He should have a very hard time cutting any of them, IF at all. Yet he's sliced into both Ben and Hulk w/ relative ease; but not Colossus. Maybe such sloppy writing only applies when he's not fighting another X-Man?
Even worse than cutting Ben's face was him jumping onto Hulk's shoulders & popping his claws directly into the Hulk's brain ( due to Hulk's mindless rage state & high regeneration, it wasn't as harmful as one might think; but -). Considering the structural strength of Hulk's skull, at best Wolvie should've just been pushed off by his own claw muscles; or, at worst he should've torn through his own arm tendons.. But again, no in-story logic, just sloppy writing.
His claws don't exactly cut like most knifes but I've read somewhere that they cut between the molecular structure of things
Which means there isn't need for much force to cut through basically anything
That's comics for you, they are as inconsistent as they can. In one issue Spiderman survives an abomb like it's nothing and the next gets his ass handed by some normal thugs.
God I love Ben
Dude isn’t exactly as strong as the Hulk (pretty close tho)
but he’s got more heart and skill on his side
It's not actually close, unless you count the weakest versions of the hulk, in which case, sure.
Nowhere near as strong as the Hulk. Even the thing said in that comic that Hulk is way stronger than him.
Well in Ultimate Fantastic Four # 8 Reed asked if Ben still goes to the bathroom.
Ben replies with "yes. You don't want to know the details". So... here's this. I know it's a different universe, but I am pretty sure rules are somewhat the same.
He uses the shower to clean the poop off his butt because his hands are too big to wipe with
If Reed didn't know if/ how Ben uses the bathroom he clearly wasn't paying attention to their plumbing.
There an animated series of the fantastic four
In one of the episodes you can see ben's toilet in the background of hes room
It has like grinders and crushers on it
Some people actually use animal manure for building sod. Keep Ben well fed w/ beans or such, and overtime you might be able to build a small fortress.
Different Universe usually equals different rules and since you're talking about the Ultimate Universe, Ultimate Ben's physiology is vastly different 616 Ben's. Especially when you take into the fact that Ultimate Ben has a purple humanoid form th at he can turn into at will after going through some type of caterpillar to butterfly phase.
4:25 Thank you for sharing this truly beautiful work of art. I shall add it to my random images collection.”
This shows how powerful The Thing is.
If he can blow off his entire arm from 1 punch and then knock out hulk's whos punches he could withstand before is really surprising.
The Thing is underrated
Hulk was going easy on Ben, there was this one comic where Logan and Ben fought the Hulk (while he was bald) and Hulk took a chunk of Ben's face and crushed it effortlessly. Granted I do agree though Ben is heavily underrated he has shown time and time again that he has enough power to knock out beings who are on par with the Hulk and yet writers always just turn him into a punching bag. Granted I will cut writers some slack because they haven't turned Ben into a punching bag since 2016 I think.
@@thebehemoth4951 yeah I’ve seen much of that recently glad to see him be more useful
@The Behemoth - Going easy on Ben? The intent was to literally murder him. This also isn’t the first time Thing has KO’d Hulk.
@@CrucibleBlack13 My apologies for the long response I hate doing this and reading them, but I have a lot to say.
If you read the dialogue and see what's happening you can quite easily see that Hulk/Puppet Master were both messing around.
"Don't worry I'll make sure to tell you right before you die", "I want you to feel every moment of this..." , "I'm the Hulk and I love smashing the Thing", and "I'm the Hulk and I'm just getting started... "
Puppet Master wanted to relish the moment and watch Ben struggle and fail to fight the one person he has never beaten by himself (before that moment). Devil Hulk just likes to fight that was made abudantly clear in the Immortal Hulk run. Hulk is capable of ending a confrontation between the both of them quicker than Ben ever could.
Also you're right this isn't the first time Ben has KO'ed Hulk it the second time he's KO'ed Hulk and its the first time he's did so by himself. The first time was when Hulk still needed to breathe and Sue put a force field around his head cutting off air and making him lightheaded enough for Ben to knock him out.
@@CrucibleBlack13 but Ben has also lost to Joe Fixit, which is arguably Hulk's weakest form.
I fucking hate how that thumbnail reignited a phobia I had as a kis fucking hell.
In those notes it mentioned that any food matter that isn't digested is used to repair his rocky exterior. Makes sense, since the plades would be constantly grinding away at once another.
The thumbnail makes my skin crawl..
There is the possible but terribly concerning possibility that any waste might be excreted as the epidermis, as in his waste is part of what makes the layer of rocky skin
😳
I mean, irl, the tough outer layer of human skin is made out of dead cells, so it's not too far feched
I’ve always wondered how Ben’s physiology worked. The cosmic storm changed him so much more than Reed, Sue, and Johnny.
The Thing does have a junk, Stan confirmed it in a interview with Vanity Fair he said and I quote "I guess common sense would say it was made of orange rock too." Not to mention it's kinda always been implied that he has one and that he still needs to use the restroom to especially since I vaguley remember him having a restroom in his room. Also if he didn't have a junk some writer would had most definitly been made Ben run around naked like the Abomination, A-bomb, Groot, and so on in daylight with any shadows covering him from the audience. Though even if he didn't have a junk I would have assumed that he would have had a cloaca like some birds and fish do.
Wtf, the thumbnail giving me phobia kind of vibe
I think a lot of people think he is made out of rocks...He's not. His physiology is SO dense that it just appears like rock, but it IS actually flesh...His skin is so dense and dry, that it cracks and flakes like stone, but it is in fact organic, and actually MUCH stronger than any rock. And yes the Thing does have a "thingy"...All his biologics function just as a normal human, just in a form much more dense, powerful and tough.
So it's like a turtle shell with extra steps. It looks like rock, has the same consistence but it's not.
Which means an earthbender would not be able to control him, But which also means he would not be immune to the petrifing power of Medusa.
It makes sense, even because "made out of rocks" is vague AF. Rocks are made of way many meterials, and I don't think Ben's skin is part of the list.
@@HypercatZ His skin is pretty unique, so it's hard to compare with anything, but I'd say more like a crocodile skin than turtle shell, but that is still the same basic idea.
Better question is how does The Rhino go to the toilet when he is permanently coated to an indestructible suit?
That explains why he's mad all the time. He's covered with poo and pee and cant remove it
Maybe the suit has a built in dispose system... Or crud I don't know, hopefully they explain that one in Marvel's Spider-Man 2... If they bring him back for that one that is.
well there is a opening for his mouth and face, so he probably has a opening at the other end.
There are two possible answers to this question stemming from different sources a) there is a part of the armor in the back that can be removed so he can do his job and b)there is a pipe like system inside the suit that ends up in the foot area so yeah in some versions he shits from his feet
His suit is no longer stuck on his body that's been stopped being a thing after Spider-Man created a acid that dissolved the suit. Ever since then his suit has always been able to come off.
You should cover more Fantastic Four comics. They're consistently really fun and wild to read with a lot of pathos and cool visuals. The original Stan Lee and Jack Kirby run is particularly insane.
Honestly weird hearing Ben Grimm being called the Thing so much in the video, personally. After reading so many FF issues, you stop thinking about their superhero names and just call them by the people underneath. It helps that as a family, they hardly call each other by their superhero names.
It's funny you say that Marvel can't have one of their staple characters be "going through it," because most of Ben's publication history since 1962 is pretty much just constant agony and it's only post-2010s that he's finally allowed to be permanently happy.
These breakdowns of a marvel character and their morphological traits is actually a really interesting video, I'd love to see more like this, like maybe a breakdown of the hulk from different comics or the different biological versions of Peter Parker
As for the 'rocky nerve endings' think of it like a turtle shell. It's actually bone and quite sensitive, they feel everything.
In Rock case, I imagine he'd be able to feel vibrations rather well since rock can amplify some frequencies.
So in normal human standards his last punch on hulk is just like ripping the skin off of your arm... The agony. And i can't even imagine the stress of hearing and feeling all the creaking and grinding all over his body in the first few months that he had that body. Like Rocks: "Every breath you take, every move you make, every skin you break, I'll be haunting you."
"Because Marvel can't have one of their staple heroes going through it (implied pain), unlike other heroes."
Yeah, it's weird to me how Marvel really loves to torture the spider.
Idk man... Johnny Storm slept with his gf while the Thing was trapped on Battle World in Secret Wars... sounds like he got done dirty too
Spider-Man’s agony is sadly what makes him more relatable.
@@J-manli Well it stops being relatable after the 50th time it happens in the same week.
@@J-manli Nope never liked that
@@J-manliThe only agony that makes him relatable is having to balance two lives often times resulting in the destruction of relationships. I don't see how fighting a Vampire and getting your eyes ripped out makes him more relatable. I don't see how getting violently imploded makes him more relatable. I don't see how getting tortured by literal gods makes him more relatable. Please be fr.
Okay was that diagram you found official art? And whether it was official or not the answers a lot of questions. But one thing it doesn't answer is how he and Alicia had kids and so many different universes. Also for some reason Ben does not age as long as he does not return to Human. Initially he was supposed to be able to turn his powers on and off like everyone else in the Fantastic Four but for some reason his ability to control his power turn them on and off got screwed up at least according to the Future Foundation storyline.
Well those alternate versions either can turn into human or they have a junk in their Rock form.
I believe this diagram was from a slightly older but official marvel book on the ways the heroes powers and abilities work, but like the video explained that in most canon versions he's still got all his functional organs in his body still although many fused or changed to support his new form and it is also explained that his skin is rock like not actual rock it's more akin to a more advanced version of an armadillos shell, so he can still feel even through his skin although most likely somewhat lessened and still has his reproductive organs which means he can have sex and help produce children.
Super enjoy your takes, thanks for doing it.
Here's a better question: once a year Ben reverts to his human form for 24hr. If Ben impregnates his wife, will she give birth to a rock baby or a mutant child like Franklin Richards?
Option two
Damn even if he almost lost his arm doing so, being able to knock out the Hulk is fucking impressive as hell.
Hulks been handled more times than people remember. People just have that mindset like batman fans do that hulk can't be beat because "he's hulk"
@@aerystargaryenii2565 ...... I mean if Batman has prep time.... I'm just saying JK
I've always been curious about the Thing's anatomy so this was very helpful!
This thumbnail gave me such an TERRIFYING feeling here
My whole body started itching when I looked at it
This is the big reason as to why I love The Thing because its understandable how at first he would see himself as a monster i mean anyone who had to live like that would but then he proves to himself and the world that he's not a monster but a true hero.
For the last one another factor was he was changing back, it’s why his rocky epidermis was so fragile also since it was already coming off (it’s revealed that once every year or so he actually does return to his human form) that punch had also broken his arm since it was literally the last second
that Raphael punching hitler had me dying😂 comics r always doing some random shi
Just because it works like teeth doesn't mean it needs the same nerve density. Those don't do anything for structure.
Also:
Even if it was exactly like that, Thing would simply be used to it.
Quick experiments to validate this at home:
Close your eyes and cover them with your hands. This will ideally block out all light. If that happens you will still see something which is the background noise of the visual nerves. But your brain put it on full amplification because its not getting a satisfying response.
Same works for hearing. If the environment is silent enough you can hear your own pulse. Many people might have experience with that lying in a silent room with your ear on a pillow.
It's all about your brains interpretation of the signal, the signal is always pretty garbage.
The Thing literally shits bricks
Oh wow someone finally took the time to find a character that most people are not paying attention to for the popularity of the character. Take the time to go deep in to the background of the character making this character a lot more interesting for the future. super fantastic job dude!,,,,,'!,
He can fight medusa straight on. He's already a rock.
bro, i finished watching/reading all about the thing like 2 weeks ago and you come up with this video... Absolutely my fav marvel character, is like my father.
I swear, every Hero in Marvel have happy ending except Peter
Forget questions like why do we exist or if they're is life out there in the universe or how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop... THIS is something folks should discuss about!
He was asking the real philosophical questions in the beginning
Imma be honest, I don't often like it when a character that's not Thor or Abomination beat Hulk but...Thing breaking off his whole arm just to knock hulk TF out goes hard
I don't think we need imagination. That anatomy diagram you showed us noted something about how the kidneys make a "stone soup" which gets excreted by the plates. I think that he does pee- he pees orange rocks from his skin. He is basically one big kidney stone.
Imagine being so unconcerned with anything but winning that you are willing to punch a guy so hard in the face that you flay your entire arm.
That's what makes the Thing the Thing, he may not be the strongest or the toughest, but he has a lot of heart and strong willpower. That has always been his schtick.
The Thing got into a fist fight with the Hulk and won? He’s GOATed!
I wished they had made Ben win more often in his fights because while this is cool and all it's pretty sad that this was his only win against the Hulk without any help.
@@thebehemoth4951 Same. I have a real soft spot for Orange Hulk here.
@@kylelangdon6724 Same and I honestly wish Ben would get a boost in power or some type of "wow factor".
all the rocks being pulled in that one picture gives me some type of trypophobia
That thumbnail gives me goosebumps
So, what's the comic where The Thing has the rocks from his shell brutally pulled?
Someone please reply i wanna know aswell
I would like to know this as well.
So it's new, hasn't released yet
It kinda gives me shivers or goosebumps.. it looks so unnerving
Just checked, it's Clobberin' Time issue 2. Doesn't come out until the 26th of April so no idea what's going on in the picture
Not gonna lie. One of my favorite heroes knocking out another one of my favorite heroes with the hardest punch he could muster. Kinda dope
“For the millions” that TMNT picture is hilarious
From the movie , looked like the Thing is just covered in rock based skin plates and under that is thicker than normal flesh , his blood is Rocky bits with a clear fluid .
I remember reading a comic book where Susan was helping gather information on his mutation in an effort to cure him, and she told Ben she would have to watch him defecate. I don’t remember the comic name but I swear I didn’t dream this up
Damn man it makes me respect the Thing even more than I already do given what he puts himself through for others
And this is why Raphael is my favorite Ninja Turtle.
It’s exactly what I imagined… also Raphael punching hitler looks weird
The thumbnail triggered my fear of Trypophobia 😫
Well to explain rocky nerve endings let start with tidbit 1: Nerves Transmit electricty thrugh some proccess
If we include elements: than any kind of electricty conudcting metal would work (iron, gold, aluminimum for instance)
If we want full on rocks like crystals: Than quartz crystal is your friend. When bent or compressed it generates electricty. So theoritically quartz based nerves could work!
This is so cool. Thank you
I have a question: Are you planing to do a video about every comunity post you made or yust some of them or none because those would be a good idea for a video?
damnn i always thought bro was just a hard ass rock
Amazing story thank you
He's turning into a cordyceps monster XD
Your thumbnail made me feel REAL uncomfortable, congrats i clicked on it lol.
Thing Puns 🤣😂👏👌
Awesome vid!
I never knew i wanted to know this until i saw ya vid, thank you 🙂
Kinda feel bad that he has to go trough all this pain
So hes a strong man with extra tough organs and extra powerful muscles and layer of rock? How does the rock grow from his body?
Originally his skin was like leathery dinosaur hide. I'd think the outer layers progressively hardened into intolocking rocklike plates. Maybe similar to armadillo, turtle, or even anklyasaurus shells.
His rock body is organic it grows and heals like human skin does.
Also, I kinda wonder how The Thing would be able to medicate himself through severe pain with traditional painkillers like regular people can and how his body would be able to process them, or if he would be able to feel the painkilling effects of medication due to his digestive system at all, considering he can risk essentially breaking what feels like teeth off of his outer dermal layer in the ways you mentioned you could imagine he’d experience a ridiculous amount of physical pain from his encounters.
Ah, you have an HP cookbook too.
2:13 this is like… trypophobia in reverse
I have two theories:
Theory A: like his ears, the soft tissue of his thing has been completely grown over; meaning he just has a hole where his junk is, the rest of it is concealed within the shell
Theory B: (this one is more optimistic) the things things comes out of his body like a dog’s thing.
The Thing takes kidney stones to a whole other level
That was interesting, thank you for the video.
What comic was the thumbnail image from ?
“How does The Thing do the thing?” is a sentence I never thought I’d hear, but can’t stop thinking about now
That clickbait gave me goosebumps for no reason.
*THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LEAVING THE TEXT IN THE TEXT BUBBLES* my mans doing God's work here people.
Here's another question I have
Does the death penalty exist in Gotham city and if so why hasn't the joker or dollmaker been executed
I'm pretty sure a few of Gotham's criminals, Joker,at least are probably deemed legally ineligible by reason of insanity.
@@ronn-ammon8975 Someone should do a Batman movie where one very determined lawyer/prosecutor/whatever is sane enough to prove the Joker's sane enough to get the death penalty and not have any nonsense going on behind the scenes where Batman tries to 'save' the day so Joker won't get executed.
Idk why, but I remember vividly seeing a movie in which Ben Tennison. Ben fucking 10, became the Thing. And I never questioned it until the last years. Maybe I understood it wrong, but I even remember him being like “The omnitrix is no longer here! This is the new me!”
You might be thinking of one of the live action ones, there’s one alien transformation that kind of looks like rocks growing on him, and that line is probably from when he gets transformed into a copy of the villain
I think you’re referring to Race Against Time
Thank you for this video. I always thought about this 😆
I think its organic rock, which can build and growth just like another organic parts. Its like shrimp's shell but more thick and harder. And also mutation which grant super human strength.
When are we get a Thing movie where he’s just a New Yorker?
Is there any cases of The Thing fighting the Absorbing Man? I wanna know if his condition can be mimicked
He almost fought him in Sceret Wars #8, but his powers were on the fritz so they didn't fight. Granted I'm pretty sure Carl could absorb his skin, he's once absorbed the Hulk's skin in Immortal Hulk #36 and he's also absorb the metal skin of the teenage mutant called Mettle in Avengers Academy #7 so it's possible he could do the same to Ben.
i like the part where he told us how the thing does the thing with / without the thing
I appreciate the amount of effort that you put to make this video well done ✅
That thumbnail really made me cringe, I hate it
It makes me itch. Activates tripophobia