Husqvarna 120i Battery Powered Chainsaw & Best First Chain Saw For Home and Land Owners Discussion
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- čas přidán 2. 05. 2018
- An Opinion with a typical "twist". You tired of the lectures where there is some "expert" defining the one right way for everything? Join the revolution...:) Subscribe and go along for the ride. MANY ways to "skin a cat". Many "right" options for the right tool for a given task. Chainsaws are tools but also a gateway into entire paradigms for forestry related and land management related interests. As well as a "motor sport" & potential mechanical hobby for average folks. Going to brush around those concepts in this video. So whats the best "first" chainsaw? Completely depends on you (And your situation/task)....take a listen to the video......
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i am an arborist. great video explanation of tools and their usage and price too. and money saving tips. and good demo. it solidify curiosity. thanks.
Thanks for watching!
What a beautiful 281! Great videos as always. Hi from Minnesota Walt!
great vid keep them coming
I would never have considered an electric saw,especially with my gas Husqvarnas, but I bought raffle tickets for a great cause not expecting to win,my 1st win ever,& won the Husqvarna battery powered hedge trimmers,leaf blower,weedeater 1 battery & charger, so I’m thinking of picking up the saw, great video
All very nicely put Walt.
Best regards from the Isle of Skye...
My ms 180 will do anything that battery powered sucker will do and do it a lot faster. A couple of years ago a big oak tree got busted up in a wind storm at my daughters house. Some of the limbs were over 12 inches in diameter. I cut it up with my ms 180 in 32 degree weather. My hands were numb after a while, even though I had leather gloves on. To me a MS 180/181 are the best starting saws for anyone. I gave my oldest daughter a MS 251 as her first saw but only after making sure she could crank it. It does not have a Woosie starter on it, either. I also give her a gallon of MotoMix and Stihl bar oil to go with it.
Mine have not leaked with the exception of a gas tank on the 361, which I replaced and it has not leaked, since. I agree, a good saw starts at about $300 or more. My yard saws are my ms 181, 180 and 135 husky. They will do most anything I have to cut in the yard. The reason I have big saws is because I am called upon to cut down trees for my disabled veteran brothers. I also have some rather big trees in my yard which could blow down in a storm at some point. I also enjoy working on them from time to time.
I got my Husq Rancher 455 for $150 brand new at a sears closeout sale some years back! I have put good honest use on it for 3 seasons or so and so far it keeps starting without a lot of trouble! I added a 562xp and use them both so I can get them both ready before I begin my workday and cut more without stopping to resharpen, and for now I stuck a 24" bar on the 562xp for large diameter trunks and keep a 20" on the 455. It's a nice combo!
I think the 455/460 is the "Homelite XL-12" of our time. Probably the most reliable saw of this generation..:)
Nice pragmatic approach to this topic. I can see much larger electric saws in the future. I log full time with all bigger huskys. I also serve on our local fire dept. Of course we have big huskies there as well. I hate the saws on the fire dept. Because they require way mor work than my logging saws. The fire dept saws rarely get used and go to hell because of it.
My first saw was an electric Remington pole saw, best $100, I’ve ever spent. I use gas saws as well, Sthil 250, and husqvarna 353.
My Farmertec saws don’t leak, either. The original gas tank on my 361 leaked, but I replaced it and it does not leak, anymore. It was leaking around the seam between the tank and the handle, which I attributed to the sealant or lack thereof used by Farmertec. I noticed on the tank on my 181 that Stihl used a white sealant to seal the tank to the handle. I think Farmertec uses sound waves to bond these parts together instead of a good sealant. I know they also something similar on the bottom cover on the rear handle of the 361, which can cause the cover to come off. The rear handle on the 360 is a much better designed and constructed part. I like the 360. Maybe not as peppy as the 361 but a much more solid saw.
FT saws not leaking....HA! Sounds Like Brain Static.. "BS" for short...:)
hi mr. Walt and good vídeo!!!!
I love older saws I picked up a 288 , 266 , 272 , 034 av , 036 pro , a McCullough 200 , and a carlton all in one place last week lol .
You can buy a used pro saw for as much or possibly less then you can get a higher end homeowner or "farm and ranch" saw. I paid $50 for my 026pro. My Makita DCS6421 I just bought a week ago $250. Paid $400 for my Husqvarna 372xp, $450 for my MS440 that had a 28 inch Sugi Hara bar know that bar is like $135 alone and it was new. It has the full wrap handle too and he added the bigger log dogs whatever you call those spikes dogs whatever they are. Came with another OEM piston and cylinder the guy had bought and he had the original 20 inch bar and chain too. I know they aren't a pro saw but I got a Husqvarna 142 for $25 and a Stihl 009L for $20 too a couple weeks back at an auction. Put fuel lines, filters, plugs, air cleaners, cleaned and tuned the carbs and both run great and have less then $100 total in both of them after the work. You could spend $300-$500 for a brand new higher end homeowner or "farm and ranch" level saw. I would rather spend the same or less and get a pro saw. I do have a couple saws I bought new but if I can find a good pro saw half price or less used I buy it.
I use corded electrical saws in my uk size garden, you can buy one that will do what you need for a few years for £50 ish, and they don’t run out of battery !!
My very first chainsaw of my own was a blown up Stihl 044 that a logger friend of mine gave to me for free. It was originally a 10mm that he tried to do an aftermarket 046 kit on it but it leaked air and blew the piston to pieces. Ended up costing me about $100 in parts (got a REALLY good deal on an OEM Stihl p&c) and a lot of research, trial, and error later I got one heck of a first saw
It almost sounds like I made a mistake in choosing a $45 GreenWorks 14in corded saw and a JonCutter g4500 as my first homeowner's saws. Honestly, i'm pretty impressed with both of them in 8" and 14" respectively white oak. I was surprised to find out that the corded saw came with an Oregon bar/chain which is at least half the cost of the package.
I will add some manufactures "like Dolmar/Makita and some Echo models" offer pro grade saws at similar price point of Stihl and Husqvarna's Rancher type saws.
That battery powered saw looks like a much better package than the Echo battery saw I had. The Echo saw was a cinder block at 13lbs, and had a really pathetic bar & chain.
A little late to the party but. I have cut with all three, Stihl, Husqvarna and Echo battery saws. The echo saw is a heavy brick for sure but it out cuts both the Stihl and Husqy pro level battery saws both on speed and torque. I have a 16" bar on my own "ECCS-58V" Echo battery saw and I use it for everything other than actual logging, for that I use a Husqy 560XP.
I needed a new saw few weeks ago. Actually I had a big-big dilemma. Coming from the old-school 2stroke carb hobby class and working for IT companies for more than 20 years I just could not decide. Either I take one without autotune or take the challenge to get common service tool and disassemble the firmware and and the micro controller code and play with it without the "dealer-near by option". I know that the "firmware" is downloaded online but basically it is just a fueling map controlling a solenoid, nothing too complicated at all.
I had an Echo CS490 and 590. Picked them up after Hurricane Michael. Traded them both in for a Husky 372XP. Now I'm looking at getting another midsized saw, but them I found your vids on the "repair kits"...
Only go there with those kits if your looking build saws fr fun and the outcome doesn't matter as much as the build and bebug experience does. Echo is a "Bang per buck" saw and do quite well, Dolmar (Makita), Husqvarna and Stihl build saws that can be worked hard in a pro environment with dealer support and is the best solution for 90 percent of the folks out there. My suggestion is based on who you have for a dealer pick a major OEM and go with that. If you are determined to take the "Kit saw" route go with the 365/372 pattern kit saw. Those can be made into workable solutions with relatively low amounts of pain. :)
@@afleetcommand I'm a tinkerer and a motorhead, so I'm looking at the 660 clone. I loved that 590, but didn't quite have the nuts. My 372 is unstoppable with a 20" bar.
I've had fun with mine....but I had to develop them. That was fun for me but that process isn't for every one :). The 660's are the other kit i would suggest as you probably know, just that's a LOT of saw. Not for everyone either. I've been able to work them into a pretty solid saw. Mixing in some better bits and pieces. But the video's document all that...:)
Check out you're local Home Depot online for their rental dept. They sell their rental stuff every couple years. I just got a HD rental Makita DCS6421 for $250. Its a 64cc pro saw. They run $650-$750 for a new one. I had wanted one for a long time just didn't want to pay full retail. I have bought a few other saws this summer too that I have bought at auctions and off the Facebook Marketplace. I have some new saws but I have found some really good deals on used pro saws. I just bought a MS440 that looked to have very little use guy said he got it new and only cut a couple cords a year and he moved last year so he doesn't heat with wood anymore and didn't need it. I paid $450, it was a full wrap handle model, came with the original 20 inch bar and a chain and a new Sugi Hara 28 inch bar and chain. I paid $400 last week for my Husqvarna 372xp. Guy had an MS660 I sent a message to for $425 too and he just sold it so I got that 372xp instead. I got an 026pro for $50 a while back I absolutely love that saw use it probably the most of any of my saws.
🤣 14:05 that’s me...
I’ve started with Husqvarna 254XP as a kid (maybe 13-14)
And yes I own now 3 chain saws (few days ago I bought Husqvarna 135 Mk II)
And now thinking about buying used 550XP...
And lots of other Orange tools from Husqvarna, Black&Decker, Fiskars, NeoTools etc.
Lol I probably a little insane...
Walt just curious if you have had any experience with Tanaka/Hitachi saws. I had an old Echo 33cc that finally died after 25yrs, and I now have two Tanaka saws, a top handle TCS33EDTP and a rear handle TCS51EAP, both start easily and run strong and come with a 1yr rental, 2yr commercial and 5yr homeowner warranty. The top handle does get hot quick but for me and probably most casual users this is not a big issue. The rear handle is a 50cc 3.4hp saw that for 250 dollars is IMO really hard to beat. The thing I really like about both is that the engines seem to have a lot more torque than comparably sized homeowner saws and seem to also be pretty quiet and free of vibrating metal sounds...so when cutting all you get is a deep throaty chip spitting pull, not the zing/yunk zing yunk common to so many smaller saws as they jump from 11k to a bog :-) in the hands of an inexperienced operator.
Heard good things about Tanaka saws, but never personally experienced them
Personally, I think any user needs at least two saws - a big one and a little one. I will tend to use the little one far beyond its limits and only resort to the big one when I absolutely have to use it. You will be surprised what a saw with a 16 inch bar and an LP chain will cut.
I think I would be surprised to see any of your saws cut..:) Maybe you should join us on a GTG ...then we can see
And YES I know have to spell "Strategy"
Nice "Rot Valta" (Root Flip) as they say in Sweden. When you made the first cut on the first tree that had blown over the roots pulled the stump vertical. That's why they warn against ever taking shelter under one of those if caught in the rain or snow while hiking or hunting.
and another good user would be for older guys ( like my father ) who just clears the fence-rows occasionally. i am 53 so you can do the math. lol
what mods would you do to a 450 saw??? same as the 350?
Nope...a 450 is a Strato Clam Shell....strike one and two for the modification types. Muffler mod is about all you can do without a machine shop. AND if you try to put more time and money into one...might as well get a saw from further up the food chain. Pretty much run them as they are is best.
Thanks, as usual , you are the one with the best advice ( okay . and Bob ) lol
What upgrades are there for the 460
The 450 is a good saw but not as good as my ms 271, imho.
Nothing beats petrol
I got a couple few saws ... but, a little battery saw, with a super sharp chain, you might be surprised what you can do. Also, with gas, there is a lot of idling time. Electric just sucks the juice when they are chewing wood. Between cuts, nothing. Also, no pull. Just a button and a couple of beeps. Need to run it for 20 seconds in the garage. No problem. I think for a lot of people, if they figure out how to keep a chain sharp, the may not hate the little electrics, as long as they keep cutting to 30 minutes. Look at Bob cutting the larger wood. A 12" bar with sharp chain can cut 16" rounds no problem. They are torquey. And, kind of safe, because the motor stops the second you quit pushing the trigger. Not like a clutch which is still spinning the chain, as you are moving to your next buck. I always wear chaps cutting, but don't with the electric saw (use your own judgement on that one -but I'm definitely for chaps with any petrol saw, as I've hit my left leg twice in brush moving). Yeah, if you're dropping decent trees, or really working, you want at least a 562 ... but 1st time chain saw people ... I think electric is ok.
You must not have priced the batteries for those suckers, lately! The batteries do not have an infinite lifetime. At most a couple of years, three if you are lucky. And those suckers are around $100 a. pop. My axes will cut wood and they do not need gas, bar oil or dealer support. My saws do not leak - they have Stihl written on the side. I have never seen a husky that did not slobber bar oil like a hunting dog after an afternoon hunt.
:) Stihl funny....but you also have Farmertec. Kind of chisels at the argument..:)