Learning to Feel the Brace | Basics of the Disc Golf Brace | Improving My Backhand
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
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About 80 percent of amateurs' problems stem from lousy bracing. The other 20 percent might be fixed by itself after bracing. People saying "bracing is not important" either do it intuitively or get it wrong. Keep up the excellent work, MD!
Thanks, Jaani! That means a lot!
This is great! Those incremental progressions from no feet to the front leg brace should really help people feel how important it is.
Awesome! Thanks so much. That confirmation means a lot! I love your stuff!
@@discsmd 🤝 you’re welcome man!
Yes sir. Another great tip. I sit for putting as well to work on power in my putt. Thanks Bunky!!!
Oooo, good idea! Thanks!
Not sure if that would be all that effective for training for distance but I definitely see the utility of using chair for putting shorter putts where you are isolating elbow, wrist and finger popping mechanics.
@patrickflanigan951 you definitely would not do it from longer distances but would certainly force you to use more fingers to get power, even from shorter distances.
@@patrickflanigan951 I do it for inside circle putts...with the clip mixed in, I can stand confidently from 40'....love to putt!!! I'm a spinner for reference
@@d-clips-in-KC do you sit on edge of chair or fully seated back into chair?
Can not wait to try this!! I think this is what will finally put me at 300ft +. Currently throw 260-280 consistently and controlled. My goal is 300 and I really think this will help. Thank you thank you!
I hope it does! Good luck! Let me know!
I will!
The key takeaway for someone like me is that my timing is off with my brace. I start to throw before I fully plant. Being able to feel what we're doing is how we better make adjustments to what we're doing. I think this can be helpful in letting people better feel the brace action in some cases.
What would you call this drill? The Seated Brace Drill? The Chair Brace Drill? I've not personally seen this before. Thank you in advance, Bunky!
Yeah, I can see that, honestly. I had a part of the video where I was talking about how it is helping with my timing, but I wanted to save that for that video, which will be out next...lol. so I cut it. I'm glad you said that!! I came up with this drill on my own, for better or worse...haha. Don't have a name for it. I like the Chair Brace Drill!!
@@discsmd yeah man, I'm finding that I have a lack of "proprioception" that just makes it hard for me to get the timing right on the brace, as well as the whole "lowering the elbow" thing that causes a swoop. The Swirly drill that Blitz talked about is what I've been doing. I think once someone recognizes they have a "feel" problem they should spend time training themselves to do it.
Yea Nick, this drill is good for you! Its the same timing help as one leg drills but it puts your ground contact in a more realistic position. Really good idea!
Ill have to try it out. The weird part is that there is no momentum or gravity assist so it could make the throw arm-y… but the value of the thought and physical experiment is too good for that to be a problem, just something to be aware of if people loose track of what the drill is meant to help feel.
It's the Lazy Man's Drill.
@@dgspindoctor ooh my kinda drill! 😂
You're a genius and thank you for the help!
I'm blushing. You are too kind. I like finding new ways to do stuff that help make it stick.
Interesting drill. I think a lot of people have a tendency to lean into the throw towards the target, and as a result fall over their brace or spin out. It's a natural thing to do when you're trying to throw hard. Maybe sitting in a chair might help folks not sway forward and stay behind the brace more.
Yes, I think you are right. A secondary benefit for sure!
Here from DG Spin Dr... This is good stuff!
Yeah, man! Glad you enjoyed. Welcome!
Very interesting drill. Thank you!
Glad you liked it. Hope it works for you!
There’s a couple different brace methods, but both don’t need such an exaggerated push through. In fact, it can be dangerous extending fully through the brace and having a straight to near hyper-extended knee. Feldberg is a bad example of this as he does hyper-extend his brace knee, but most pros finish with a still bent knee, some more than others. Physically the act of landing on the ground exerts a downward force with the Earth pushing back up to open the forward hip. You only need a little push through the forward heel to come through balanced on your brace leg. Josh’s brace balance drills can also be used to supplement the feeling and training of keeping your balance through the brace along with the drill in this video.
The push through the brace is also something that ramps up through the movement rather than all at once. Again, the brace balance drills are very helpful here. If you push too much and too quickly, you fall backward, and if you don’t push through enough you fall forward. So it’s more a balance on the front leg while you’re moving through the movement and carrying a dynamic weight (a weight in motion weighs more than the weight itself), which is your body weight, the weight of the disc, and the end of the whip (your arm). The last two remain in motion through the hit, and weigh a lot more at the hit than at the reachback. Hence, a ramping push through the brace, and the disc release as the weight of the disc overcomes your finger strength.
Yeah, I guess I didn't explain that as much as I needed. This is only to develop the mindset of what the brace is and how it feels. During an actual throw, I don't think there is a conscious push like I am performing here. My coaching method promotes over exaggeration of movement during practice drills in order to perfect them in performance. If that makes sense...lol
There can and should be a conscious push. Doesnt have to be, but at mid to high level there sure is.
Also a weight in motion weighs exactly the same. ; )
Great drill Discs MD!
Thanks! Appreciate all the feedback. Humbled that all the big dogs are commenting on this one!
@@_TDG Right, I should have said the momentum increases, and not the mass, which results in a heavier feeling that then overcomes the grip strength.
I like it.
Also, journey before destination, radiant.
I think this is absolutely brilliant. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching. Hope it helps!
i think most dgers get an early impression that the major force being applied to the disc is pulling. from reachback, people will initiate the movement by leading with their head and torso and leaning toward the target like they're starting a lawnmower or in a tug of war. i find focusing on pushing the disc away from the body at the power pocket, helps eliminate the lean and allows the opportunity to feel the brace stop their momentum instead of rolling over the brace.
Yeah, to me, that's the second part of this; learning to sync the timing of pulling the disc through with the brace. And as you say, not trying to pull through with the head or upper body. I may or may not have videos that talk about keeping the head quiet. :)
Bumpin in with a sub from DGSpin doctor video.
I like the chair thing.
Thank you!
Very good, thanks.
Glad you liked it. Hope it helps!
@@discsmd I can still throw only 100m (330 f), so maybe I still have something to improve. I'm not sure if I feel the brace *enough* - not sure if there is enough pressure on the front foot.
@RBadding yeah, I get it. I have some other things that I do to feel the brace. Going to put out a second video with those since this one got good response. Hit me up on IG. I'll certainly do a form review with you if you don't currently have a coach and see what we can figure out.
@@discsmd Perhaps I’m just bracing (shifting weight) too slowly?
@RBadding could very well be. If you want to send me a video, I can go over it for you.
Great video, I think there is also a rear foot loading/push off. I suspect the brace would be ineffective if you pulled rear foot or deweighted it. The rear leg also plays a role in keeping things moving forward. Can’t have one without the other. The dynamism is in both legs working together.
Oh yeah, I don't think you are wrong. That was just outside of the scope of this video. I'm still not convinced that part of it is as intricate as the brace, but admittedly, I haven't spent much time testing things out there as of now.
@@discsmd I think my point is try doing the last phase of pushing leg down, but do it with right foot slightly off the ground. It will be weirdly bad. I was just very conscious that I was using that rear leg a lot as far as loading on the backswing. Felt that it was necessary to even get the brace reaction. You have to have forward momentum for the brace to mean anything. In a chair that forward momentum comes from a rear leg brace/push off
The rear foot push is okay for a standstill, but isn’t needed for the x-step as you’re already carrying that forward momentum and a proper brace will lead to your rear leg becoming weightless and sliding behind you.
@@happyboyeeeee I am referring to the chair drill and not xstep. Is applicable to standstill as well
@happyboyeeeee yeah, that's always been my take on it.
Wow, you are explaining in ways I've never seen in 7 yrs of YouTubing tutorials.
OK now we need a chair tournament. All throws from Tee box and fairway from the chair. Not with putting though. You would carry your folding chair and your bag.
Well, I think that's about the best compliment I have ever gotten. Thank you! And now I need to enter a chair tourney! Lol