ALL These Rolex Models Are IMPOSSIBLE to Buy in 2024! - Watch Dealers Insight
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
0:18 - GMT Pepsi
1:29 - GMT Sprite
2:39 - EXCLUSIVE Watch Rolls
3:04 - Stainless Steel Daytona
5:08 - Oysterflex Daytona
6:27 - Stainless Steel Sky-Dweller
7:43 - Outro
its just a watch, just wait to get at retail and keep saving. you should not be begging for a company to take your hard earned money.
Have no idea how ignominy like this has become accepted
@@manofthehour_ you must be unfamiliar with the basics of economics when demand out paces supply
@@TiffCat sure I know my economics. I also know that I want to be treated decently especially when dropping more than a few grand on a non essential item.
Easier said that done. You're not getting it.
get a 124060 grey if you really cannot wait, and wear it as much as you can. after a few weeks youll realize its just a watch, and it might save you from paying more money over retail on other watches with higher markups.
All of a sudden Rolex is having production issues with the Pepsi after 3/4 years of production lol.
and this what i can’t get my head around i think it’s good marketing
No, after producing it for 70y since the 6542 They arent that dumb to discontinue one of the hottest piece. The rumor is made by grey dealer who stucked with tons of pepsi
Same with Toyota. They produce 10 million vehicles a year, yet there was a sudden production issue, and now there is still a waiting list of more than a year for some of the most popular cars like RAV4.
The blue and red ceramic bezel has actually been in production since 2013 with the white gold GMT-Master 2 ref 116719BLRO
They should stop Pepsi, the bezel colour are off
This guy really trying to unload these Daytonas. Grey market slow. No one scooping em up
exactly this, they are all flooded with inventory they cannot move. They need to stop asking covid prices FFS. Meanwhile ADs across the land are getting loads more stuff from Geneva. My local WoS addy had almost a window, a third full of desirable pieces for sale as a walk in.
@@davidbrown9947 yup and the ADs are trying to sit on everything until the grey flushes inventory so they can move em out the back door again.
@@davidbrown9947 Where is this?
Didn’t he say they had the best month in sales in March? 😂 Grey dealers on YT started peddling the rumors again with discontinuation, investment, value retention again. Definitely market has slowed, look at the recent auction houses and the prices they are fetching, and the pieces that didn’t hit minimum reserve.
@@David-yd6ur Mappin and Webb
Who’s excited for the 9th!!!
🙋
i’m beyond excited!!!
Me me me
100%
why would I? rolex makes the show but then doesn't produce or sell watches LOL look at last years yatch master titanium? how many did they produce? almost none... this brand is good at marketing but then the production does not follow unfortunately...
Always a great video, thanks Charlie !
Thankyou Kevin, glad you liked this one. Appreciate you watching! 🙏
Saying you will never get certain watches is rubbish . How are you holding them if people will never buy one ? I agree with a lot of things you say but saying you will never get one is rubbish . How have i got one?
He’s a greasy ex car salesman. What you expect?
@@AL95621 No. These pieces really are that difficult to obtain.
I’m getting the New Sprite GMT tomorrow!! 😊
Thank you for the video
You are welcome David, thanks for watching 🙏
Hi Charlie
Hope you & your family & team are all keeping healthy. Another great honest video. I am looking forward to all the new Rolex timepieces to be released. It's going to be a healthy, wealthy, positive year. Take care, speak soon. Have a great new week. Best wishes
Thank you Karl, yes we are all good here, hope you are too!
Definitely going to be an exciting week ahead isn’t it! Thanks for watching, and look forward to seeing you soon
Wot the hell is this!!???
What a melt🫠
What’s the Knick name for the new gmt rolesor ? anyone…⚡️👻⭐️
Once again an amazing video. Cheers mate!
Thankyou mate I really appreciate that 🙏
Such a positive video... spoken like a true grey market dealer trying to drive business
A bit misleading here… you don’t need to spend £100k to get a £9k watch. You simply have to buy the stuff that ADs make the most margin on. Steel Rolex = low margin as they are easy sells. Gold Rolex = high margin as they are hard sells. Jewellery = high margin other watch brands = high margin as they are also hard sells. Don’t be a wally paying £8k over list, unless you want to lose £4k when you walk out the door. 😂
Wait for the watch (all the excitement is in the wait), don’t buy as an investment, and always buy at retail. 👌🏻
Complete BS is the correct term. Have picked up an E2 Polar and a 126515LN back in December without spending history at two AD’s I haven’t used before.
Got my jubilee GMT Sprite 2 weeks ago. No spend, no history. It’s my first Rolex. So happy!
how
That’s incredible mate, enjoy it! Congratulations🥳
Bullshit
@@sindthekid honestly I would just simply visit occasionally, like other month, and just politely strike up conversations and mention “I was just in the neighborhood” and wanted to see if by any chance a watch had come in. And honestly I was just honest about it being my first Rolex and one lucky day I got the call.
@@Sam-xt1kr 😂
It’s crazy to believe Sam but it’s true.
Charlie when is the next review of your users watch collections and how can I submit mine !???? Another great video as always.
Thankyou mate I really appreciate that! Keep an eye out for the next community post requesting collections 👌🏻
These watches are so hard to get hold of that the grey dealers have hundreds of them in stock. 😂
I look forward to these videos every week , it’s nice to have an honest update from a top watch dealer , thank you Charlie this video as usual well worth the wait mate , see you soon 👍🏻💥💥
Thanks Paul, really appreciate the comment! 🙏 look forward to having you in again soon 👌🏻
Any thoughts on the Day Date models? Which dial variants are a 100% buy?
Quite slow in the current market, but some good ones to go for still. I’ll try and cover the in a future video 👌🏻
great vid and information
Thank you mate I appreciate that! 🙏
Hello
I never seen you talk about the Daytona blue face white gold
I know it’s discontinued .please give some info regarding that watch and the market place of it today
Cheers
Thanks for watching mate, yes so this is a highly desirable model that I imagine will creep up over time 👌
Hey really enjoy your videos. I guess i was lucky. About 2 years ago i asked my ad to buy a rootbeer and she said 1 year or so and almost 1 year later it came and bought it. Then 5 months ago i was turning 50 and wanted another one being a lefty i wanted the sprite i ordered and it came after 3 months. I dont flip or sell any of my watches. Maybe they know that or maybe just lucky. If rolex ever made a daytona ss with blue face i would want it but dont really like any other ones in the current catalog to be honest. Thanks again for your videos.
Thank you Jack I really appreciate that!
That’s incredible, congratulations on securing two stunning models so quickly, enjoy them! 🙏
Love your show
Thank you mate I really appreciate that! 🙌
Agree , nice video mate
How bout daytona cosmograph meteorite dial in white gold with oysterflex ? Just have one
Thank you mate I really appreciate that!
Such a stunning model and a great one to have in the collection, congratulations mate!
So happy I got a place on the list for a Sprite!
Excellent news! Hopefully you get the call soon 👌🏻
There's no such thing as a "list" 😂
My first Rolex is GMT master 2 Badman with jubilee bracelet. Love this watch.
Incredible GMT, congratulations mate! 👌🏻
love it brother ❤
Thankyou mate! 🙌
How difficult is it to get a new Daytona Everose gold with oyster flex from an AD?
It would be one of the harder ones to source, but not impossible!
I gotta appreciate you keeping it real on this. ON the flipside.... you can walk into any AD in the world and get your Rolex Wait-Master today!!
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Thanks for watching mate 👍
Hey Charlie keep up the great work. I was offered a two tone Daytona from my AD - I knocked it back (not the one I wanted), BUT 6 months later my full White Gold Daytona arrived (116509).
It was the second Rolex I brought - the first a two tone Sea dweller. Still own both of them. I was a bit nervous saying no to a Daytona, but it turned out to be the right decision.
Also just picked up a 31mm OP with Tiffany dial for my wife a couple of months ago (waited 12 months) - I don't buy anything I don't want. Love your market info....
Thank you mate I really appreciate that!
Yes thats definitely the best way to do it, buy what you like! Some stunning models you have picked up, enjoy them!
The new range are very shiny, they reflect light well.
They look completely different when the sunlight hits them don’t they 👌🏻
Another banger of a video Charlie, look forward to it every week. Well edited & stuffed full of facts from someone in the market who has the experience - no BS, no drama, just fact. And that’s why it’s the no 1 ‘watch’ on a Sun eve. Cheers Charlie…and I’m still loving my Sprite. 👍 Andy
Thanks Andy I really appreciate that! So pleased you enjoy the content and tune in every Sunday! Glad to hear you are still loving the Sprite 👌🏻
What about the Pikachu?? Is this the hardest current model oysterflex to get??
Yes definitely up there as one of the toughest to get 🙌
What are your thoughts on the YM RLX titanium?
Such an incredible model, but one of THE hardest to get from your AD unfortunately
I'm so glad I'm only looking for non-hyped models.
- Datejust 36mm fluted bezel with blue and wimbledon dials
- Submariner no date
- GMT Master II "Batman"
In this specific order.
No need to play games, being forward and honest with my AD, being patient, I'm sure it'll happen.
Thanks for the videos!
Thanks for watching mate I really appreciate it!
Great list of watch you are aiming for, hopefully you start getting the call for these soon 🤞
I got both 36mm DJ Wimbledon and Mint Green in the best combo. No spend history either.
@@g43654 congratulations mate! 🙌
Enjoyable video Charlie.
Thank you Simon, glad you enjoyed this one 🙌
Tell me is the steel and gold Daytona easy to get from an AD please
It will be still quite difficult, but much easier than the steel variants 👍
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thanks for the reply much appreciated
@@mbingham10 Not a problem at all! 🙏
What about the new 40mm Explorer 1 ?
Stunning model, shouldn’t be too long of a wait compared to some other models 👌🏻
Purchased a Wimbledon on a jubilee from Charlie this week. Easy to buy from and received the watch just over 24 hours later. I love it already
Hope you’re well mate and great to hear you are enjoying the Wimbledon!
Thanks for watching, and speak to you soon 🙏
Not going to play the game or spend those prices on the GM. I will just buy a nice Moser and JLC Reverso.
Some fantastic other brands out there for sure 👌🏻
I enjoy your channel, i got my Rolex submariner 126610 Lv just 2 weeks ago, and love the new 💚 but i did wait two year and glad as i preferably this green to the one avalible in 2022,
Incredible Lee, enjoy it, such a stunning model isn’t it, particularly the MK2 bezel!
Thank you for being a fan of the channel, I really appreciate it!
I got offered a 2024 Pepsi today. The greedy bastard wanted £19,000 for it 😂 By the way isn’t vegan leather just a posh name for plastic just like back in the day when car interiors were known as Leatherette 😂
I immediately lose interest and the mention of, 'vegan leather'.
what's a good spend history for getting a GMT?
It would have to be a few models previously at least, however each AD is different so it might be worth having a chat with them! 👌
The Sprite on Jubilee is FIREEEE
👌🏻💯
I'm just so happy that I was able to acquire both the jubilee Pepsi and the meteorite Pepsi at retail. My AD treat me well.
That’s some good going! Congratulations mate, enjoy them 🙏
I’ve owned 2 steel Daytonas. Got them both list… swept up by the hype, didn’t really like them. Got a sea dweller basher and recently bought an unworn stickered JC Deep Sea. Absolutely love it. And he’s right, don’t play the AD game. See it. Like it. Buy it. Bosh!! Got my JC well under list… 😊
That’s great mate sounds like you have a great collection!
Best way to be - buy what you like! Thanks for watching 🙏
Got my black steel Daytona within 9 months, my panda Daytona within 2 months and got a ghost same day I got the black dial steel Daytona. Got the PN 116518 within one month. Had all the other steel sports also / not hard in reality
Got the call for my Pepsi 2,5 weeks ago, glad I could still get one before the 9th
Thats incredible mate, congratulations! enjoy it 🙌
Idk why everyone loves the stainless Daytona. I personally think the yellow gold Daytona is light years better looking than the stainless
Yes, but it’s four times the price
Ah everyone has their own tastes, the yellow gold is incredible isn’t it 👌🏻
True, but if you’re going to buy a stainless steel model on the grey for 25-28k usd you might as well ask your ad to get you the gold model. At least here in the Miami ,Fort Lauderdale , west palm beach area the yellow gold models are obtainable with a decent spend history. My brother got one on his 5th purchase with his forth purchase being a Longines watch. In my opinion , if you can find an ad that sales multiple brands . Go that route
@@aaronclarke919 I think a new customer can get a precious metal Daytona pre-quickly now. The markets changed and A.Ds are dying to get customers in that have 50 K to spend. It’s basically basically only the 10k sports models that are still in demand
I agree ⭐️
funny thing is I have the black stainless Daytona, the Pepsi and a Kermit, all from AD but 20 yrs ago
Ah congratulations mate, incredible models to have in the collection! 🙌
Got the sprite a few weeks ago. Took 9 months from a DFW AD.
Congratulations mate that’s really good going! Enjoy it 🙌
Bought 4 Rolexes from the AD and currently waiting on an allocated Daytona. It’s not that impossible..
Hope ya get it. Don't hang buy the neck tho.
How long have you been buying Rolexes from that particular AD? What is the usual waiting time? Appreciate your answer.
Started in 2016. Have bought an explorer, submariner, DJ mint green and GMT. Have not waited for more than 6 months on any of the models. Have also bought 2 cartiers and a Longines at the same AD.
Did you have to buy many non-Rolex watches to build your spend up?
Congratulations mate that’s some good going! Hopefully the Daytona comes around soon! 👌🏻
The man!
🙏
It took me three years of waiting to get my blue Skydweller from my AD, still waiting 18 months for a green sub, if the price is right, I may pull the trigger on a grey market.
Yes the wait times can be quite tough can’t they! 👎
100% agree on the Blue SS SkyDweller. impossible to buy from an AD without being a VIP customer of theirs. They simply do not make many of this dial variation. As you say, buy at grey dealer as prices have evidently bottomed here on this model an likely to climb again from hereon-in.
You are spot on there, one of the hardest models to get offered being so popular! 👌🏻
So happy got my Root beer from my AD here in las vegas!! My holy grail!
Stunning model mate, enjoy it! Congratulations 🥳
Thank you sir!
@@thehonestwatchdealer my AD offered me the guiness before the root beer but good thing i declined it. Its a good feeling when you get the watch that you really like. 🤙🏻
@@mikeursal6157 absolutely, worth the wait! 🙌
Rolex should hire new supply chain employees for example from Mercedes-Benz , they should be able to develop inventory and make supply chain work much better than now.
Thats a great idea 👌
Just got the Ghost today from the AD
Congratulations mate, such a great one to get - enjoy it! 🙌
Me too!!
All steel GMTs pretty difficult to get from ADs. Even steel subs require a couple of purchases minimum (ie: Datejust and a non Rolex) in most cases.
Absolutely spot on there! 👌🏻
What about a stainless steel Daytona dual-tone?
These would still be hard to obtain, but much easier than the Stainless steel models 👌🏻
Sorry I don't totally agree. Last year I bought the Oyster Sprite at one Caribbean AD in March on Vacation then a few weeks later my regular Caribbean AD from a different island called to say the Panda Daytona I requested arrived. I had no history but a connection with the Sprite AD and a very good relationship with the regular Caribbean AD. I would consider them friends but I haven't spent hundreds of thousands there. In November my local Canadian AD offered me the new model Ghost which I love. Overall a great year for adding to my collection. I would never sell any and wear them all rotating with the other Rolexes in my collection. Funny enough the one I am having a hard time acquiring is the Blue Sky Dweller but I believe this is the year! Love your channel. Thanks
Thats incredible Stephen!
Definitely one of the rare occasions where the desirable models all come through. Congratulations, and enjoy your stunning new watches 👌
@@thehonestwatchdealer Thank you I have been blessed. I wore the Ghost all weekend and I'm wearing the Sprite today. These are meant to be worn and enjoyed. Keep up the great videos.
@@DrStephenPhelan absolutely mate, enjoy it! And thank you I appreciate that 🙏
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Best GMT sprite stand out Rolex watch
Incredible isn’t it 👌🏻
Dunno about the sprite, my mate got one only a couple of months ago, barely any spend history.
Ah that’s incredibly lucky! Congratulations to him 🙌
Just got my new Sprite. 5 to 6 weeks from AD at MSRP. No problem.
Congratulations, such a great wait time! Enjoy the watch mate, great choice 👌
Anyone who pays thousands over list for a metal watch must have more money than sense.
unless you expect it to be discontinued and therefore expect it to appreciate in value over time, in which case it makes perfect sense.
"Trust me, Go straight to the gray..." 😂
Yeah no thanks, had a really good natural progression of watches from the Rolex Boutique that I actually wanted. Starbucks > Batgirl > Blue Dial Skydweller over a 3 yr time span all at retail. (watches from other brands bought as well but from different dealers).
Just repeat visits, fun discussions, and showed up enough wearing what I bought to build confidence I wasn't a watch flipper.
To be fair, If you only want a Daytona, Pepsi or a Skydweller and nothing else ever, then you're probably out of luck and he's right...short of being the nephew of the store owner you likely aren't getting any of those without a good spend history and confidence that you aren't going to flip it (they get penalized as a store when something Rolex has distributed to them ends up on the gray market...that typically translates as fewer sports model allocations annually.)
Congratulations mate that’s the way to do it, and some great advice!
Stunning collection you’ve got, enjoy them 👌🏻
I just don’t see how “Rolex has to sign off on the panda” if the gray is covered with them?
Super 👍🏻
Thank you 👍
I got the call today from my AD for the beautiful Daytona Ghost. I was on the wait list for about 11 months when I was added after I purchased an $8k ring for my wife.
Congratulations mate, such an incredible model! And not too long of a wait time!
If I part exchange to get something bigger will get a good price right now
Yes you should always get a better price when part exchanging 👌🏻
@@thehonestwatchdealer thanks Charlie
You want our money? You are not getting it in 2024 😂
Ridiculous when you really think about it. Master marketing from Rolex.
Pepsi is one i have been wanting to buy but i think ill wait to the 9th
Definitely a great one to aim for
Nothing is impossible. You are the prime example .
Such a weird disconnect with watches. My grail is a no-date sub, been waiting for ages, and I can drop that money without shedding a tear. But I am not gonna really suck up to a retail sales assistant in a high street store to buy one. Obviously there are levels to this, and I'm at the bottom of the luxury watch chain tbf.
Just be friendly and show your enthusiasm as a watch lover, if you are.
Hopefully you will get the call soon mate 🙏
I want a Pepsi but prefer it on an oyster. I’d be happy to sell my Daytona black face stainless. 2020. As it’s so hard to clearly glance the time on it, the gmt just so much clearer
Great choice to go for the Oyster 👌🏻 definitely trade in your Daytona for something you are going to enjoy more 👌🏻
Great time to do it. Many guys would give their left nut to get one at a fair price!!!
What about a GMT Batman?
Should still be a difficult one to obtain, though not as much so as some other GMTs 👌
When do you think the new releases from tomorrow will be seen in ADs?
Will likely be at least a few months before they start trickling in depending on the model 👍
@@thehonestwatchdealer what’s your thoughts on the new releases? I’d have love to have seen some openworked models…Daytona…GMT
I got the sprite on a jubilee in dec 2023 and i kid you not my spend on account was 14.7k
Wow that’s incredible! Enjoy it mate!
Just got the new panda daytona 🎉
Congratulations mate, such a stunning model - enjoy it! 🙌
The scarcity of these Rolex models is mind-blowing! 😮
Not sure there is any scarcity, all the 2nd hand watch dealers are stocked to their necks in "scarce" watches... it just means people are still flipping watches, and grey market dealers are reluctant to cut prices and crystallise their losses 📉
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@@slapjuice perfectly said
So glad the Batman is the only GMT M2 I wanted 😮💨
Such a great model to aim for, you have great taste! 🙌
Got the call today for a sprite on jubilee. No purchase history (at this AD) or spend. Very aware I’m insanely lucky (helped I’m a leftie) and met an amazing SA that has my business for decades to come.
Ah incredible! Congratulations mate, enjoy it! 🙌
Thank you! Love the channel
Get a VSF sub, understood.
What about Batman w/ jubilee?
It is a very difficult model to get yes 👍
So my AD still had the Panda as the most ungettable watch, however... she said the list is now open again! Although said it's pretty much only celebs and VIPs who get it. She's never had one come in. But she does get the odd Pepsi, albeit only 1 last year which went to my mate and that's the only watch he managed to get last year.
I'm glad the OP 41 Celebration didn't appear in this video, that's the one I really want. My AD said she's seen 4 come in so far so it is possible. Just hope it's not discontinued this week.
Ah yes they are both incredibly difficult to obtain!
Hopefully you can secure a celebration soon! Great model to get 👌
If you all stop buying these watches, in one year, the rolex boutique will beg you to buy in discounts
The great pepsi gmt hoax. Not getting discontinued
I also hope I prove you wrong with a VTNR….😂
I bought so much stuff by my AD in munich and aboultly NO Chance to get. I am sooo desperate 😢!! I love the Sprite so much 😊
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@@Patekcollector5205 I am DESPERATE for the BLRO i have a really good spend with me AD in London .
I’m going to email me dealer until they give me a watch to get me off their back!
So glad I prefere a Batman 🤗
Such a great choice! 👌🏻
Rolex HQ have to sign off on a stainless Daytona 😂😂😂
LOL that was a good one
I got a stainless Daytona from WOS, no spend history, but complicated!
With the spend history the AD ensures only flippers can get certain models and actively prevents the true Rolex enthusiast /fan who just wants a one , two or three watch rolex collection that they will wear every day.
Wait, ROLEX has to sign off on Daytonas?
NO.!!!
It’s a buyers’ market. Sooner or later, all these watches would be closer to retail prices.
Could very well do 👌
Thankfully I’ve known my ad for over ten years. Bought a Panerai way back in then a Datejust a few years later. Then got a black gmt before the hype. Then a white Daytona and blue Skydweller. But again. They have known me forever. Not a big spender. Just bought what I love over the years and they know that and appreciate it.
That’s the way to do it mate! Congratulations, sounds like you have an incredible collection! 👌🏻
I've been waiting nearly a year just for a plain datejust. I might as well forget about any hope in obtaining a steel sports model.
Hopefully you get the call soon mate, hang in there! 🙏
Same mate been a year no call for Date just 41mm.
Hi Charlie don’t rub it in the watches you can’t get at your AD.😂😂Let’s see what other watches we can’t get at your AD at Watches & Wonder.🤦♂️
Will be exciting to see what they come up with this week! 🙌 thanks for watching mate 👌🏻
There are way better GMT/Dual time for secondary prices…. You can easily get a Gen 2 vacheron overseas or gen 3 with dial instead and have a much more interesting watch. The hype will fade and the vacheron will always be a vacheron!
Sprite price stall . Is not that popular any more
Things are starting to cool off though. Cambridge Mappin & Webb have a Bat Girl in the Window for sale. That would never have happened 12mths ago. Its all starting to slow down, as the second hand and grey market continues to cool off
Oh wow, thats a really sought after piece to have sat in the window! 😮
It’s exhibition only. Don’t be mistaken.
Got my sprite jubilee 2 months after asking my ad…
Congratulations mate, thats some good going! 🙌
ADealers are getting greedier in 2024, trying to clear inventory, blatantly bundling each popular Rolex with a few pieces other brand watches that they cannot sell in this poor retail environment.
What would be considered a “good spend” history?
It would all depend on which model you are aiming for 👍
£300,000+
Hi mate, I think that depends on your relationship with your AD. The quality and sincerity of it may mean you get a call sooner than those who just spend big. Put yourself in the ADs shoes who are real people and there will be big spenders who are rude and rub them up the wrong way, maybe losing their turn as a result. 🤫
@@TheRealGurney fair answer, i recently brought in a buddy to the same store and he ended up buying a IWC, hopefully that builds some good will and gives me a bump
@@thehonestwatchdealer probably the usuals that people want. I picked up a sub last yr, I’m hoping for a steel sky dweller, steel Daytona (long shot) or a rose day date