Actually there are songs. On the HBO recent documentary, members of his group Gemini, played the songs they made back than. The group member said WW never made them feel uncomfortable and he never got vibes that Wayne was a pervert. So the group was something WW was really doing. He actually owned his own radio station and had his own recording equipment in his house. He did rent out time in a recording studio as well.
2Ryled the prosecutors were paid for by the government 2 million dollars. The defense never had a chance. This was definitely a political verdict to scapegoat WW so that the city of Atlanta wouldn’t go into civil unrest! Get the real facts of the case and there is more than reasonable doubt.
@@OldskolFan yeah i don't want to diss his attorney because she had little money... but one lawyer made a point of having a dead 160 pound animal in the court with a barrier the same height as the bridge and for them to show how difficult it would be for him to drag a body out of the car and toss it off a bridge. but anyone with just a little bit of sense should realize there should have been a lot of evidence in the car and on his person if he just disposed of a body less than 5 minutes before being stopped.
Good question Stephanie & you know they say he did not do it but their kids with or near him????? I don't think so. BTW it is reported that in the prison Wayne is in nobody messes with him. He is uniquely strong & has badly hurt & tore up other thugs trying to fight him !!!!!! BTW Wayne Williams & O.J. Simpson say the same thing, "I hav'nt killed anyone" !!!!!!
Shannon Reynolds yes, he should be investigated and checked out before we just blindly believe his story. The police get people like that all of the time. False witnesses in it for the attention. Who ever got the 100,000 reward? Why didn’t he go to the police back then?
I was a kid when this was happening! It was all over the news almost everyday . It had me terrified . Watching Season 2 of Mindhunter brought it all back !
@acebasespace While there is still a lot of debate on whether or not Wayne Williams was responsible , the show does a great job of portraying him as simultaneously empathetic , yet kinda creepy.
I was 10 years old when the miniseries The Atlanta child murders aired on TV. I didnt sleep a wink that night. I'm 44 and the story still haunts me....and yes, I'm watching Mindhunter season 2..episode 9
That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day. For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever! So we don’t look at the troubles we can see now; rather, we fix our gaze on things that cannot be seen. For the things we see now will soon be gone, but the things we cannot see will last forever
Everybody who grew up in the 80s vividly remembers this story. Both Williams & gacy had the same superiority complex w numerous victims. Very sad for the children involved. It's the kind of story that makes you look over your shoulder at all times
I’m glad this young man was spared and turned out like he did. He seems very thoughtful and well spoken. A tragedy like this could have seriously messed him up.
Oh my....had he stayed...he'd be no more. The whole police dept should be sentenced. Thank God for Morgan's character n Martin Sheen's character. And the lawyers!!!!! Ty.xo
He's a liar bozo was paid to push a narrative Sold his own brother out for a check. His own mother said Wayne Williams is innocent wht he won't say his bro knew all the lil children that was murdered. Wht does that mean if anyone ask I'll tell u.
When I was a kid, there was a guy in the neighborhood who lured me and my friend to his house for candy and cupcakes. Being 7 years old, of course, we fell for it. We both went to his house, but he told us to come back later because his wife was there. Um...ok. But we never went back. We were disappointed little brats, upset about the candy and all, but as we got older, we realized that SOB was most likely a pedophile. He would always be outside walking his brown Doberman, but once the dog died, we never saw the man again. He never came out of the house. Thank goodness his wife was there that day. No telling what would've happened to us.
They got the right guy. He's still able to manipulate people to this day that he is innocent. So much evidence pointing to him. Sometimes people just don't want to accept the truth. Sad.
So heartbreaking. He called his brother Pat Man. Saw the documentary on HBO Max. I believe his story, and the forensics. Stalking children, inserting himself in the searches. Only guy on the bridge. Carpet fibers and dog hair. Plus the whole talent scout cover story. No doubt his parents knew he was sick. Now still trying to profess his innocence. It’s truly disgusting.
@@thelegend9820 it was him and a few others. He wasn't the only one killing those kids. A man named Jamie Brooks killed Clifford Jones. A few witnesses watched him strangle Clifford but he was never arrested, only questioned. Jamie was later sent to prison for molesting a boy and he later died of aids in prison. I know this case backwards and forwards
My grandfather was one of the detectives that caught Wayne. He said when they were staked out on the bridge and they seen his vehicle come up, he knew and then the body came down the River…. They have the right guy and he should have got the death penalty. He’s not treated bad at Valdosta.. it’s sickening
They didn’t stop though! There were other kids found dead who were not included in the child 💀 profile of this case. Truth is at that time just as now, Atlanta was a major child trafficking hub and there was a free for all far as harming children.
@@mizsevenoneeight685 throwing them in the river and bringing them to his home or studio stopped. But Fulton county runs that ring and we lost over 3,000 kids since 2019! Wild
Quinn Drake not disagreeing with you or anything just genuinely curious where I can find that information. is there a website or something? If so, can you link it? :)
@@Tazman1234 Yes and why WW was at the bridge that evening? Why did the boy who ran away from him indicate him? I don't say that he killed 30 kids but more then 15. Think about. The only record producer in history to have never recorded a single song with a single artist.
@@ValeMohicano that is exactly what I'm saying. The boy was startled or scared by wayne Williams. But he never saw wayne Williams kidnapp anyone or murder anyone. And the authorities never convicted ww of not even 1 of the murders of those kids. What does that tell u???
@@ValeMohicano 2 adults... not children... get some critical thinking. they don't fit the pattern. and please explain why there was not blood and other evidence in his car when he supposedly lifted a grown man by himself and tossed him off a bridge.
I was around 7 years old at the time living in Mississippi, my mom got over protected in those days. Whenever Atlanta is mentioned now, the Atlanta child murders always come to my mind first, even at age 46.
I was 5, from Philly & my mom was the same way. I remember being in 1st grade & having to wear those green buttons on my clothes. Seeing those ppl wear them on the show brought me back.
@@onlyplayaseattacoswiththei9433 that was the birth of "STRANGER DANGER"..we all stopped ironing our names on the back of our shirts..would walk in groups retired folk would drive around in shifts watching kids walking home.... yeah, the panic was crazy.
thank godness! i get a feeling that the mothers who's sons died didn't do a good enough job at protecting their children. There should not have been kids out trying to earn money. They should have been somewhere safe.
All these fools saying this man is innocent, it was the Klan... I lived through this time. When they locked this man up everything stopped! God Bless this man and his family and his brother Rest in Peace.
@@dugan7659 so all black people think he's innocent? Actually, it's mostly white celebrities that have taken his side. But bigotry will always exist so I get it...
@@TJ-fe7rr No, some people said he didn't commit all of the murders and that the Atlanta police were being lazy, which there is some merit in that. And no one thought OJ was innocent, some black people just rejoiced in the fact the corruption of United States justice system actually benefited someone black for a change...
I'm so glad you spoke out. There are other youtube videos where people are saying he was framed, it wasn't him, police needed to get someone. With you coming forward and telling your truth, maybe others won't be so charmed by him into believing it wasn't him .
Exactly what the other reply said, the real truth, in all likelihood, is *NOT* that he was framed for everything. I believe it definitely WAS him, committing many of the murders, but that *SOME* of the murders were committed at the hands of someone else- or something & many someone else’s- that were far more connected and sinister, just in a different way. I don’t know what I believe but it’s certainly possible, given the time period and the state of things in this country at that time.
That's funny. Williams was NEVER charged or convicted of any of the murdered children and you can look it up on factcheck it you want. He was convicted of killing two adult men and even that is suspect. The DA, Mayor and APD closed the case. Camille Bell, the loudest voice and the one woman who is responsible for the national attention doesn't believe he did it either.
Someone else spoke out too who got in his car. They want to make sure people realize that he is not innocent. Maybe he didn't do all of them, but he did do a lot of them.
@@missdee4927 I still think he was scapegoated..Check out a movie with Gregory Hines and Jim Belushi about this case that looks at in a totally different direction for the most part.This is why i think this way
@@marvinhagler4721 I'm right with you Marvin Hagler.I believe he was a scape goat.Maybe he lurred the kids off,but if he did,he was working for the police or the kkk.
This man is guilty! Just because he claims he's innocent for so long doesn't mean he is. A lot of serial killers deny their crimes down to their grave even though all the evidence points to them. I guess the more you believe the lies you tell the easier it is to forget the truth.
@@Tazman1234 think about the social norms of that era though. If a white man was walking around in a majority black neighborhood, people WOULD have noticed immediately since it be hard to miss with it being the south. This is why I don't believe the klan did this at all. Most of these kids were taken not too far from their homes with in view, people would have noticed a black child going with a white adult. It would have been socially unusual and suspicious for that time specifically. It had to be someone who blended in well with in the surroundings who wouldn't stick out, a black person aka Wayne Williams. My grandmother is from Atlanta and said even during that time she believed the killer was a black man when she would tell me and my brothers these stories. When my dad was a kid, she forbade him and his siblings from playing no further than the front porch so she can keep an eye on them until the day Wayne was caught.
My analysis on why Wayne Williams is a good candidate for these crimes:- it was rage and hate at not being accepted or attractive and seemingly he expected certain privileges through being light-skinned which did not happen. It was rage against other blacks who he considered beneath him based on the same thing ie drop shots, to be gotten rid of, a shameful thing to him as a light skinned black man. It was his unsuccessful attempt to fit in or be popular or famous. It was his latent homosexuality which caused him to relate to these young black boys in an unhealthy and envious and deviant way which resulted in a rage killing without sexual assault. He chose boys due to his denial of his own sexuality and then his shame and rage caused the murders which continued due to his continuing feelings of inadequacy. His older parents were unable to act as the support he needed and he was virtually left on his own, much as Jeffrey Dahmer was. It allowed for his deviance and internal war to swirl unabated until he acted out. Wayne Williams is the correct person for these crimes and he should remain behind bars!
Also, his father made an inquest about booking a flight to South America soon after the investigation against hi son commenced. They apparently had an off colour relationship dynamic.
In this case, every time the cops had the wrong guy a body turned up. It was Wayne's little way of telling them they had the wrong guy. When Wayne was arrested, no body turned up. End of story
The prosecution asked his friend Sharon Blakely- who knew wayne quite well. If she thought he killed the kids. She said " yeah he did, I'm sorry". Why would she say that if she thought no? She told him to knock off his games, and that he could be hurt. She said you can get hurt by these kids. He was complaining about street kids. He said he can choke them and he wouldn't get hurt.
Just because he claimed he’s innocent for so long doesn’t mean a thing. Charles Manson said he didn’t tell his followers a race war was coming nor tell them to kill anyone till the day he died. There was strong physical evidence and he was seen on a bridge at the same time a loud splash was heard a half mile away from where the final victim was found. The KKK was throughly investigated during the murders independently from the Atlanta Police Dept. and came up with little. While other predators may have been responsible from other murders, I find it hard to believe they would suddenly stop killing forever once Williams was arrested
Yes yes yes. There's a running joke in prison everyone is innocent. They maintain innocence in hope of getting an appeal of overturned conviction. Very common. Doesnt mean shit.
I remember as a kid being afraid of whoever was committing those murders, even though I lived nowhere near Georgia. Glad he got away from that evil bastard.
Don't know if you've seen it yet, but if you haven't. You need to check out the interview on CZcams with the ex KKK member who said the klan actually murdered those kids. Very compelling interview to. U can tell the man isn't lying...
The man is definitely creepy - that doesn't make him a killer. But the dog hair, the carpet sample, and the DNA hair sample 10 years later - it doesn't put him 100% but allllll of those samples found points to him. And plus the two adults who were kids seeing him in that same area. It's hard not to convict him. & The murders suddenly stopped. You can say "oh it was a coverup" - but anyone who's so bloodthirsty doesn't just suddenly stop.
I just read a blog on a yahoo new site saying that the inmates at the prison Wayne is at, saying nobody messes with him because that dude is "uniquely strong" & has tore up & badly hurt those who have tried to fight him. In a movie made about him & the murders, I remember a scene of a kid trying to run away & he grabs the kid with one out of his car & pulls the kid in. Talk about super-strength
@@RonSafreed Are you kidding me? Do you know what they do to child killers in prison? Williams was never that strong unless he's take up weight lifting and boxing. I think you want to believe it because you have such a small mind. What you need to be pissed about is after his conviction of killing two ADULT men, the case on the children was closed, evidence destroyed and shit used that never should have been allowed in the first place given how unreliable it was back then. that is like saying in the 70s, 80s and even into the 90s that if a woman says she was raped she's lying because they don't have DNA, never mind there was no DNA used, rape kits were not handled properly and were not reliable or even used a common procedure, so your argument is circular and you sound like a fucking millennial. Also, anyone can copy an paste shit, at least be originally. Also, if you want to know why I say this and how I am sure, I have spent the greater part of my life with things like behavioral science, have degrees and specialties in chemistry, crime scene analysis and the law and have the alphabet soup (as in degrees, specialization, etc) to prove it.
@@shannonreynolds624 when your're strangling CHILDREN you wouldnt have to have super human strength. However bundy wasn't that big and look at the damage he caused. Once Williams got the kids alone through lying in that house it was all over. Dahmer did the same but he was monstrously strong & over 6ft. These weren't adults...these were probably 80lb to 115lb kids
Im so sorry you had to experience this and Im so sorry you and your family lost your brother. But you are your brother's voice and hero! Im so glad you were able to get away from him, God Bless You!
We now have the ability to process DNA evidence. Unless the evidence has been destroyed, that would seem to be the next logical step in determining who committed these horrific crimes.
A lot of evidence was destroyed or has disintegrated to be useless. It never should have been allowed into evidence as well as the "profile" give these were in their infancy.
This is one of the saddest parts for sure. It’s sad it’s been turned into a race thing. This Man is a killer that’s why the killings stopped because he’s locked up.
Good question! Isaac said his memories of that night were vivid and he spoke with conviction that it was Wayne, so I'd like to hear from the other 2 kids
I believe Issac Rogers. I was 13 at this time and remember seeing the news reports when Wayne Williams was arrested. You don’t forget what he looks like. He has that unique of a look.
Can we all acknowledge how MUCH exposure and attention this case gained BECAUSE of Season 2 of Mind Hunters? We should give flowers to David Fincher for his incredibly well done series exposing these behaviors and introducing the psychology of these terrible, unforgivable humans.
My father remembered seeing Wayne Williams at the Fulton County Courthouse in the early 80’s right after he was captured. Said he was one of the creepiest guys he’s ever encountered. Just a blank expression, like he was wearing a kabuki mask or something. He believes Wayne did it. Not sure if he did them all, but he did some.
Another man came forward who said when he was a kid Wayne picked him up in his car and groped him and he elbowed him and managed to get away. He said he wanted to speak out to make sure people don't buy into the narrative that Wayne Williams is a victim.
To everyone that is interested in the case after Mindhunter, I highly recommend the Atlanta Monster Podcast that brought the case back into the spotlight over 2 years ago.
Someone blogged saying he lived near where Wayne lived & he said he always got a creepy feeling going by Wayne's house long before the murders started!!!!!
According to research and the parents , the murders and missing children did NOT stop when Wayne was arrested . Rather , when parents reported their kids missing , the police would list them down as runaways and brush it off . So bc many were listed as runaways rather than missing , yes according to the police the incidents stopped
He kills someone's brother and he thinks by sobbing and writing love letters of redemption will clear his name? You know...these psychopathic Narcissists are really something!
Certain people still want to cover for a murderer and would rather blame in on someone of a different ethnicity. The murders stopped. The parents of the children never got justice for their children because of their own racism. So sad.
I wouldn't have stuck around to find out, but maybe he was approaching this young man to harm maybe he wanted ask him about his brother being missig. You can tell how young some of the people are on this dicussion board is. they only know Wayne Williams from "Mindhunter". I lived this in real time. I was very young but, I was aware of what was going on. I remember wearing a Green ribbon in the victims honor. This is a touchy case. Keep in mind Wayne Williams was never convicted of any of the children's murder. If, he really did this or was in cahouts with others who did this all I can say to him; admit it you are not getting any younger bare your soul and ask God for forgiveness. If you are innocent pray that a greate power will let the truth be known. If people don't think people get framed for crimes they did commit all I can say is remember the Central Park 5 I grew up in NYC and I lived that in real time too,
@@YANAMization rule of thumb if there is trouble one person should sacrifice themselves in order to save others ...you go this way ,I'll go that way GOOD LUCK!
I just finished watching the mini series. This is heartbreaking that he cant even come to grips of what he did and seek forgiveness from their family and everyone that loved them babies. I dont care if they were 5 or 50 we are all someones baby. God bless the victims and my God embrace their loved ones with his eternal love
I thank this man for coming forward to tell his story and to confirm that at least Wayne Williams was involved in SOME of the murders. What a tragedy for these childrens families! May God bring them peace knowing they will be united again. Amen🙏
I hope this man hasn't been mistreated by those who think Williams is innocent. I hope the DNA results come back soon to put the matter to rest and to insure charges for Williams for the children's' murders.
I member wen my brother came home with his shirt tore all off him my mom said what the hell wrong with u he stated mom they got my friend but my mom said somebody whip yo ass he said nawl mom they got my friend an i got away.he was shook all up scared 2 death an mom said stay in the hous till they catch that killer.an my brother said it was wayne Williams he said he kno how he look an everything..
Terry G oh shut up. Bich a log of blk children from ATL that got away said they have the right guy. Blk ppl need to quit tryna make him innocent from watching the internet.
@@gimbiyarus first time i saw his mugshots, he just wreaked freak vibes, something feels "off." in some pics when he was skinny, he looked like some kind of broken jaw, crocodile humanoid. seriously why though? why does god allow humans to be like this? so fucking disgusting
I watched an old A&E "Cold Case Files" episode on Wayne Williams back in the day. Kinda spoiled Season 2 of Mindhunter for me since I knew who they'd eventually arrest & that it'd be legit. The Cold Case Files episode was more fact-driven, newsreporting and less for dramatic purposes. Wish I could find it on CZcams somewhere.
@@rucianapollard4057 Thank you. I noticed immediately, but I also remember a coworker of his in another documentary stated that he came to work in the studio with numerous scratches up his arm and blamed it on the family cat.
Prosecutors could have presented evidence in more than 10 child murders but felt there was no need. Williams was sentenced to back-to-back life terms. Prosecutors throughout metro-Atlanta felt that was enough. “You’ve got a guy and he’s got two consecutive life sentences,” says Drolet. “The feeling was, we don’t plan on doing the trial again.” Over the years, families of some of the victims have expressed disappointment. It dogged former Fulton County District Attorney Lewis Slayton all the way up to the day of his retirement. “What about the critics that say the case was never really solved?” Slayton was asked in 1996. “I would say they (the murders) stopped,” answered Slayton.
I was good friends with a old retried city of Atlanta police officer and he said Wayne Williams was 100 percent guilty and the reason he didn't was that he actually hated black people.
I like how Isaac Rogers seems to have really recovered over several decades. And he doesn't even use any vulgarity in his interview. I can't believe how polite he was even when talking about his cousins murderer
Why WOULD he use vulgarity in this video and how is him being so polite so shocking to you? If he was still angry after all these years about his near death experience with that monster he has every right to be!
Rather he was innocent or not this was a very scary time for parents in Atlanta. I was child in Atlanta during this time period and didn’t get why I couldn’t do things like ride my bike to the store or walk to my friends house alone. It wasn’t until I was older that I understood why
It's clear Williams is guilty on. this evidence alone after is arrest the killings ceased, but more than that a killer like this would not allow someone else to get credit for his work. I know thats a strong description but it's true serial killers are often protective of their legacy, their is some sick sense authorship over the crimes. He would have at least sent a letter maybe even proof like a piece of clothing explains that he was still out there, with the many children he killed the killer was extremely crafty, intelligent and most assuredly a narcissist. Even if and it's a big if, if the killer allowed Williams to take the fall and he moved on elsewhere after what he got away with his ego would be so inflated, he would feel invincible he would act like i, another town or city would've noticed black children going missing almost and bodies being found frequently almost immediately after. Pointing to Williams innocent and clearly that didn't happen no killer gets away with this and just stops killing after 28 especially with high success rate of evading capture, sadly the only thing I can say is that sometimes killers do in fact realise they've caused a stir in an area and move on somewhere else and their crimes either are not as frequent or evade detection altogether. It's believed by many the Jack the Ripper either died possibly unexpectedly or moved on elsewhere where his crimes where not detected. In this case I believe Williams is guilty and they got their man I really would find it hard to believe after killing so many a Serial Killer would not claim responsibility either with another body or some communication with law enforcement, or he had decided to move as I said somewhere in the US would have noticed a increase in missing black kids and child murders. So sad all those poor kids and their parents no parent should have to go through that and feel that body cares for long enough.
You raise really good points. I did think of one possibility, despite all that. What if, by some circumstance, Williams wasn't the real killer, but the real killer died (or became disabled, or went to jail for something else) right when Williams did? Hell, maybe the real killer was injured or killed by a would-be victim fighting back. Or someone else discovering the killer and enacting vigilante justice. I just like thinking up ways that something COULD happen, though. What I suggested isn't that likely, especially given how many victims there were in such a short time. I don't know enough yet to have an opinion on Williams' guilt or innocence. I'm probably going to do a deep dive into the case soon. It's so sad.
@@whateverlolawants Everytime the Police had a person of interest a body would would show up for the news cameras. Wayne was telling them im still out there.
Then they let wayne williams go the same night and they said a body was floating up a river 2 days later like WTF man, why didnt they find the body the same night when they heard the splash and you let him go which doesn't make any sense.
Corey Mcgee plus Nathaniel Cater’s autopsy says his body was in the water more than 5 days! They can determine how long by how much bloat and deterioration the body had.
My twin sister and I were scared to death of the murderer when we were 6-8. After WW was arrested the murders stopped. Our daddy said so too. I believe he killed the kids.
He definitely did some. And of course the kkk may have used the uneasiness of the whole situation to an advantage to further damage the community. Not all 29 but definitely some
Let me ask you... how likely would it be for an adolescent street kid to get into a white guys car in a black neighborhood....and NOBODY would notice? How likely would it be for a kid to get into a STRANGERS car black or white when kids are disappearing like popcorn in a theatre? This guy pulled it off because he was FAMILIAR to kids, he was local and he was psychopath narcissist who thought hed out-smarted everyone. He handed flyers out for kids in the age range of the dead when kids were vanishing.
It was actually more than 29 in the real files but they didn't want to include anymore after the arrest. A few lies here and there along with destroyed files make this the most weirdest case in history i swear. And the fact that a killer or killers were never actually convicted of all the crimes is crazy.
@Proud2be White I'll be honest and say that this case was so weird because the KKK were actually making threats in ATL back in the mid 70's and before hand. Not many were caught in their acts but things did happen and with this madness going on back then white or black nobody wanted the blame on either side really but the truth is police got lazy and never solved these cases which is still suspect till this day.
@@mrs.schmenkman you make a good point tho and some of the kids were actually kidnapped from inside their homes which is crazy and rumors say that some were also kidnapped miles away from their homes too which they don't speak on much but when you're far from home then anybody can be involved at that point.
You have the blood, Wayne on the bridge, the matching of his bed spread and rug fibers, the hair on Patrick Balthazar, and a slap Jack hidden in his ceiling. Plus, Homer and Wayne burning pictures ( even Homer said it was “old film”) at 4am, right after he got home from the bridge stop. He’d don’t kill them all, but they believe he killed 12-15 of them. Wayne is a sociopath. He will never admit to it.
Just finished watching Mindhunter & wanted to do some of my own research........the good side of our personality wants to believe there is good in everyone, & perhaps there is, but a small percentage of us, it doesn't seem to matter, like in this case......Wayne Williams does not come across guilty, but all evidence said he was, & in cases like this, thank god there was enough evidence, or more of these unfortunate murdered children could have been even a higher number.......I try as a person, to see the good in everyone, however, any human that could hurt, injure, abuse, or kill a child, or a defenseless animal, a senior, a disabled person, or any living being that can not defend themselves, are the lowest form of life, & do not deserve to live among us(period)........
boxing messabout with my don round 2 crazy thing is he probably is...this case was major in american history n it is a possibility they chose a fall guy to compemsate for bad police work to make the police look like they are dependable
@@b52incoming.48 He was a wolf in that he pretend to be good but,a monster in that he destroyed humans lives so let say wolfmonster still both are of the devil this case really hurt my soul still to this day rest on young brothers and rest on with Farther Abraham 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
So glad that he got away. I remember this happening when I was in grade school and junior high school. Hope he is doing well. RIP to all of the victims.
Wayne Williams, the only record producer in history to have never recorded a single song with a single artist
Actually there are songs. On the HBO recent documentary, members of his group Gemini, played the songs they made back than. The group member said WW never made them feel uncomfortable and he never got vibes that Wayne was a pervert. So the group was something WW was really doing. He actually owned his own radio station and had his own recording equipment in his house. He did rent out time in a recording studio as well.
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@@OldskolFan they also various had talent shows all around the area too.
2Ryled the prosecutors were paid for by the government 2 million dollars. The defense never had a chance. This was definitely a political verdict to scapegoat WW so that the city of Atlanta wouldn’t go into civil unrest! Get the real facts of the case and there is more than reasonable doubt.
@@OldskolFan yeah i don't want to diss his attorney because she had little money... but one lawyer made a point of having a dead 160 pound animal in the court with a barrier the same height as the bridge and for them to show how difficult it would be for him to drag a body out of the car and toss it off a bridge. but anyone with just a little bit of sense should realize there should have been a lot of evidence in the car and on his person if he just disposed of a body less than 5 minutes before being stopped.
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Everybody believing Wayne Williams is innocent, would you leave your children around him???????
Good question Stephanie & you know they say he did not do it but their kids with or near him????? I don't think so. BTW it is reported that in the prison Wayne is in nobody messes with him. He is uniquely strong & has badly hurt & tore up other thugs trying to fight him !!!!!! BTW Wayne Williams & O.J. Simpson say the same thing, "I hav'nt killed anyone" !!!!!!
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ineedhoez this is the smartest comment in this thread
@@shannonreynolds624 you're dumb as hell. Sit your simple ass down.
Shannon Reynolds yes, he should be investigated and checked out before we just blindly believe his story. The police get people like that all of the time. False witnesses in it for the attention. Who ever got the 100,000 reward? Why didn’t he go to the police back then?
I was a kid when this was happening! It was all over the news almost everyday . It had me terrified . Watching Season 2 of Mindhunter brought it all back !
@acebasespace While there is still a lot of debate on whether or not Wayne Williams was responsible , the show does a great job of portraying him as simultaneously empathetic , yet kinda creepy.
I was 10 years old when the miniseries The Atlanta child murders aired on TV. I didnt sleep a wink that night. I'm 44 and the story still haunts me....and yes, I'm watching Mindhunter season 2..episode 9
That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day. For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever! So we don’t look at the troubles we can see now; rather, we fix our gaze on things that cannot be seen. For the things we see now will soon be gone, but the things we cannot see will last forever
And i hope theres season 3
Sorry you had to go through that man. Glad you are safe now
Everybody who grew up in the 80s vividly remembers this story. Both Williams & gacy had the same superiority complex w numerous victims. Very sad for the children involved. It's the kind of story that makes you look over your shoulder at all times
Yeah he referred to them as drop shots and street urchins in an interview. smh.
I believe Issac 💯 he was there. It was definitely Williams no doubt!!!
Wayne Williams was only charged and convicted of killing 2 adults
Stop lil girl Isaac own mother say Wayne Williams is innocent. He sold his own brother out for a check.
@@oldironsides4107sad but he won’t see daylight he will rot in jail
I’m glad this young man was spared and turned out like he did. He seems very thoughtful and well spoken. A tragedy like this could have seriously messed him up.
Still sittin on a porch though so 🤷
Me too.xoxo to the kid
Oh my....had he stayed...he'd be no more. The whole police dept should be sentenced. Thank God for Morgan's character n Martin Sheen's character. And the lawyers!!!!! Ty.xo
He's a liar bozo was paid to push a narrative Sold his own brother out for a check. His own mother said Wayne Williams is innocent wht he won't say his bro knew all the lil children that was murdered. Wht does that mean if anyone ask I'll tell u.
@@gailmaloney5303 U know that movie proves wayne williams is innocent right. Just sayin.
Black people still don’t believe Wayne did it when this guy vividly recollects that Wayne is who he remembered trying to kidnap him
When I was a kid, there was a guy in the neighborhood who lured me and my friend to his house for candy and cupcakes. Being 7 years old, of course, we fell for it. We both went to his house, but he told us to come back later because his wife was there. Um...ok. But we never went back. We were disappointed little brats, upset about the candy and all, but as we got older, we realized that SOB was most likely a pedophile. He would always be outside walking his brown Doberman, but once the dog died, we never saw the man again. He never came out of the house. Thank goodness his wife was there that day. No telling what would've happened to us.
You might have got candy and cupcakes 😂
Wow, that's a scary story. Thanks for sharing.
You came close to getting cream pied
They got the right guy. He's still able to manipulate people to this day that he is innocent. So much evidence pointing to him. Sometimes people just don't want to accept the truth. Sad.
Or you don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes this guy is paid off to speak and cops could stop killing once they have their scapegoat
Yea but look at how many black men have been released from death row last year alone. They also claimed they had evidence to convict those ppl too. Js
@@flelite3994 Delusional.
@@flelite3994 yeah who needs DNA evidence and victim testimony when you have racist conspiracy theories am I right?
Was mostly the kkk
So heartbreaking. He called his brother Pat Man. Saw the documentary on HBO Max. I believe his story, and the forensics. Stalking children, inserting himself in the searches. Only guy on the bridge. Carpet fibers and dog hair. Plus the whole talent scout cover story. No doubt his parents knew he was sick. Now still trying to profess his innocence. It’s truly disgusting.
So true
He is as guilty as they come. And til this day he appears to show no remorse.
@@thelegend9820 Couldn't agree more!!
The rope from the car AND the bedspread both mysteriously disappeared..
@@thelegend9820 it was him and a few others. He wasn't the only one killing those kids. A man named Jamie Brooks killed Clifford Jones. A few witnesses watched him strangle Clifford but he was never arrested, only questioned. Jamie was later sent to prison for molesting a boy and he later died of aids in prison. I know this case backwards and forwards
@worked for the CIA when I sold rock he didn't kill them all. There were several other suspects but for some reason they never got arrested
I think Wayne and his father, Homer, were a team. Even if he didn't help him kill all those kids, he at least knew about it and was covering it up.
Based on the show if that’s what it is yea
I agree.
I knew people who lived in the area as this was happening (they were black...still are) and that is what the thought was.
I agree
I said da same thing they help playd a roll with da kkk.
I think that fact that the murderers stopped, after his arrest, says everything.
My grandfather was one of the detectives that caught Wayne. He said when they were staked out on the bridge and they seen his vehicle come up, he knew and then the body came down the River…. They have the right guy and he should have got the death penalty. He’s not treated bad at Valdosta.. it’s sickening
Those deaths did not stop it was 4 more the news didn’t report them
Those deaths did not stop it was 4 more the news didn’t report them
They didn’t stop though! There were other kids found dead who were not included in the child 💀 profile of this case. Truth is at that time just as now, Atlanta was a major child trafficking hub and there was a free for all far as harming children.
@@mizsevenoneeight685 throwing them in the river and bringing them to his home or studio stopped. But Fulton county runs that ring and we lost over 3,000 kids since 2019! Wild
Such a high number of murders occurring in a short period of time to just stop after his imprisonment is enough proof.
Quinn Drake not disagreeing with you or anything just genuinely curious where I can find that information. is there a website or something? If so, can you link it? :)
@Quinn Drake liar.
Quinn Drake i will surely look into it. thank you very much.
Lol why are you making shit up
@@jes4040 Its fake
Now that everyone is catching up from MindHunter, just know that Wayne Williams is the Atlanta Monster
That's bullshit, the only monsters are the KKK. That's who really killed those kids...
@@Tazman1234 Yes and why WW was at the bridge that evening? Why did the boy who ran away from him indicate him? I don't say that he killed 30 kids but more then 15.
Think about.
The only record producer in history to have never recorded a single song with a single artist.
@@ValeMohicano that is exactly what I'm saying. The boy was startled or scared by wayne Williams. But he never saw wayne Williams kidnapp anyone or murder anyone. And the authorities never convicted ww of not even 1 of the murders of those kids. What does that tell u???
@@Tazman1234 The authorities was convicted WW killed 2 people.
Dog hair and carpet fiber.
@@ValeMohicano 2 adults... not children... get some critical thinking. they don't fit the pattern. and please explain why there was not blood and other evidence in his car when he supposedly lifted a grown man by himself and tossed him off a bridge.
I was around 7 years old at the time living in Mississippi, my mom got over protected in those days. Whenever Atlanta is mentioned now, the Atlanta child murders always come to my mind first, even at age 46.
I was 5, from Philly & my mom was the same way. I remember being in 1st grade & having to wear those green buttons on my clothes. Seeing those ppl wear them on the show brought me back.
Same in San Antonio, 8 at the time all elementry kids parents on alert during those years.
@@ddave7026 crazy
@@onlyplayaseattacoswiththei9433 that was the birth of "STRANGER DANGER"..we all stopped ironing our names on the back of our shirts..would walk in groups retired folk would drive around in shifts watching kids walking home.... yeah, the panic was crazy.
thank godness! i get a feeling that the mothers who's sons died didn't do a good enough job at protecting their children. There should not have been kids out trying to earn money. They should have been somewhere safe.
All these fools saying this man is innocent, it was the Klan... I lived through this time. When they locked this man up everything stopped! God Bless this man and his family and his brother Rest in Peace.
it's actually just dumb racist trying to blame other dumb racists. said times but that's the south for ya
He failed failed every question on the polygraph too. Let it go Black people. You make fools of yourselves. Just like OJ.
Let it go !!
@@dugan7659 so all black people think he's innocent? Actually, it's mostly white celebrities that have taken his side. But bigotry will always exist so I get it...
@@brandoni241 all black people thought he was innocent at the time. Just like all black people thought OJ was innocent at the time
@@TJ-fe7rr No, some people said he didn't commit all of the murders and that the Atlanta police were being lazy, which there is some merit in that. And no one thought OJ was innocent, some black people just rejoiced in the fact the corruption of United States justice system actually benefited someone black for a change...
I'm so glad you spoke out. There are other youtube videos where people are saying he was framed, it wasn't him, police needed to get someone. With you coming forward and telling your truth, maybe others won't be so charmed by him into believing it wasn't him .
it's not that it's not him, it's that there are more than just him
Exactly what the other reply said, the real truth, in all likelihood, is *NOT* that he was framed for everything. I believe it definitely WAS him, committing many of the murders, but that *SOME* of the murders were committed at the hands of someone else- or something & many someone else’s- that were far more connected and sinister, just in a different way. I don’t know what I believe but it’s certainly possible, given the time period and the state of things in this country at that time.
Ive read a ton on this case, and the evidence definitely points to Wayne Williams. I don’t think he did all of them, but he for sure did some.
You have wached mindhunter season 2 ;)
That's funny. Williams was NEVER charged or convicted of any of the murdered children and you can look it up on factcheck it you want. He was convicted of killing two adult men and even that is suspect. The DA, Mayor and APD closed the case. Camille Bell, the loudest voice and the one woman who is responsible for the national attention doesn't believe he did it either.
@@shannonreynolds624 I think she needed to blame a white person or group and wasnt satisfied when the killer was black
Killing stopped after he was arrested. Good enough for me.
@@leopoldooliver3484 But if he was the scapegoat, it would've stopped after his arrest regardless.
This is the FIRST time ever I have heard any person that was young at that time speaking about this case...Bless this man for still being here...
Someone else spoke out too who got in his car. They want to make sure people realize that he is not innocent. Maybe he didn't do all of them, but he did do a lot of them.
@@missdee4927 I still think he was scapegoated..Check out a movie with Gregory Hines and Jim Belushi about this case that looks at in a totally different direction for the most part.This is why i think this way
@@missdee4927 Who Killed Atlanta's Children
@@marvinhagler4721 I'm right with you Marvin Hagler.I believe he was a scape goat.Maybe he lurred the kids off,but if he did,he was working for the police or the kkk.
@@bettywilliams9633 Something was really UP...Hell the families said it NEVER stopped AFTER williams got locked up...
This young man is a really strong, good person to come forward and tell his story.
Come forward? Yeah almost 40 years later
This man is guilty!
Just because he claims he's innocent for so long doesn't mean he is. A lot of serial killers deny their crimes down to their grave even though all the evidence points to them. I guess the more you believe the lies you tell the easier it is to forget the truth.
The news reported from a dying white man that he witnessed the murders by klan members
@ can you link the info please?
@ cant even back up your claims, you delusional "woke" potato.
Dee Swint can you link him saying that
He cant be pinned to all of the killings tho. He belongs in prison, he is guilty of murder but the other killings have circumstantial evidence
This news channel looks like it was produced by a high school journalism class.
It was.......You're correct!!!
@Stan Smith ofcourse he is, the klan murdered those kids...
@@Tazman1234 think about the social norms of that era though. If a white man was walking around in a majority black neighborhood, people WOULD have noticed immediately since it be hard to miss with it being the south. This is why I don't believe the klan did this at all. Most of these kids were taken not too far from their homes with in view, people would have noticed a black child going with a white adult. It would have been socially unusual and suspicious for that time specifically. It had to be someone who blended in well with in the surroundings who wouldn't stick out, a black person aka Wayne Williams. My grandmother is from Atlanta and said even during that time she believed the killer was a black man when she would tell me and my brothers these stories. When my dad was a kid, she forbade him and his siblings from playing no further than the front porch so she can keep an eye on them until the day Wayne was caught.
Mindhunter season 2 brought me here. Great show!
My analysis on why Wayne Williams is a good candidate for these crimes:- it was rage and hate at not being accepted or attractive and seemingly he expected certain privileges through being light-skinned which did not happen. It was rage against other blacks who he considered beneath him based on the same thing ie drop shots, to be gotten rid of, a shameful thing to him as a light skinned black man. It was his unsuccessful attempt to fit in or be popular or famous. It was his latent homosexuality which caused him to relate to these young black boys in an unhealthy and envious and deviant way which resulted in a rage killing without sexual assault. He chose boys due to his denial of his own sexuality and then his shame and rage caused the murders which continued due to his continuing feelings of inadequacy. His older parents were unable to act as the support he needed and he was virtually left on his own, much as Jeffrey Dahmer was. It allowed for his deviance and internal war to swirl unabated until he acted out. Wayne Williams is the correct person for these crimes and he should remain behind bars!
Somewhat true
Also, his father made an inquest about booking a flight to South America soon after the investigation against hi son commenced. They apparently had an off colour relationship dynamic.
@@acosiak6191 off color wat u mean?
@@acosiak6191 ??
Did u watch the documentary if not be quiet
In this case, every time the cops had the wrong guy a body turned up. It was Wayne's little way of telling them they had the wrong guy. When Wayne was arrested, no body turned up. End of story
The prosecution asked his friend Sharon Blakely- who knew wayne quite well. If she thought he killed the kids. She said " yeah he did, I'm sorry". Why would she say that if she thought no? She told him to knock off his games, and that he could be hurt. She said you can get hurt by these kids. He was complaining about street kids. He said he can choke them and he wouldn't get hurt.
Yeah and so many stories from people who came into contact with him and felt he was really creepy. Extraordinarily creepy
Just because he claimed he’s innocent for so long doesn’t mean a thing. Charles Manson said he didn’t tell his followers a race war was coming nor tell them to kill anyone till the day he died. There was strong physical evidence and he was seen on a bridge at the same time a loud splash was heard a half mile away from where the final victim was found. The KKK was throughly investigated during the murders independently from the Atlanta Police Dept. and came up with little. While other predators may have been responsible from other murders, I find it hard to believe they would suddenly stop killing forever once Williams was arrested
Yes yes yes. There's a running joke in prison everyone is innocent. They maintain innocence in hope of getting an appeal of overturned conviction. Very common. Doesnt mean shit.
Exactly. The Klan is still dogshit without having murdered any kids. To say they didn't do it is not an endorsement of their beliefs.
I remember as a kid being afraid of whoever was committing those murders, even though I lived nowhere near Georgia. Glad he got away from that evil bastard.
Wayne shows no remorse and those kids stopped going missing after his arrest...
Don't know if you've seen it yet, but if you haven't. You need to check out the interview on CZcams with the ex KKK member who said the klan actually murdered those kids. Very compelling interview to. U can tell the man isn't lying...
@@Tazman1234 No way is that true. C'mon man. Think about it.
@@givenright I have thought about it thoroughly..
@@Tazman1234 That's not possible.
@@givenright why isnt that possible. Are u an investigator or something. It is totally possible. Not only is it possible, it's the truth...
Mind hunter brought me here. Learn from you history or it will repeat itself
The man is definitely creepy - that doesn't make him a killer. But the dog hair, the carpet sample, and the DNA hair sample 10 years later - it doesn't put him 100% but allllll of those samples found points to him. And plus the two adults who were kids seeing him in that same area. It's hard not to convict him. & The murders suddenly stopped.
You can say "oh it was a coverup" - but anyone who's so bloodthirsty doesn't just suddenly stop.
I just read a blog on a yahoo new site saying that the inmates at the prison Wayne is at, saying nobody messes with him because that dude is "uniquely strong" & has tore up & badly hurt those who have tried to fight him. In a movie made about him & the murders, I remember a scene of a kid trying to run away & he grabs the kid with one out of his car & pulls the kid in. Talk about super-strength
@@RonSafreed Are you kidding me? Do you know what they do to child killers in prison? Williams was never that strong unless he's take up weight lifting and boxing. I think you want to believe it because you have such a small mind. What you need to be pissed about is after his conviction of killing two ADULT men, the case on the children was closed, evidence destroyed and shit used that never should have been allowed in the first place given how unreliable it was back then. that is like saying in the 70s, 80s and even into the 90s that if a woman says she was raped she's lying because they don't have DNA, never mind there was no DNA used, rape kits were not handled properly and were not reliable or even used a common procedure, so your argument is circular and you sound like a fucking millennial. Also, anyone can copy an paste shit, at least be originally.
Also, if you want to know why I say this and how I am sure, I have spent the greater part of my life with things like behavioral science, have degrees and specialties in chemistry, crime scene analysis and the law and have the alphabet soup (as in degrees, specialization, etc) to prove it.
@@RonSafreed czcams.com/video/dYUS3TRB2VM/video.html
@213rfghu nm czcams.com/video/dYUS3TRB2VM/video.html
@@shannonreynolds624 when your're strangling CHILDREN you wouldnt have to have super human strength. However bundy wasn't that big and look at the damage he caused. Once Williams got the kids alone through lying in that house it was all over. Dahmer did the same but he was monstrously strong & over 6ft. These weren't adults...these were probably 80lb to 115lb kids
Im so sorry you had to experience this and Im so sorry you and your family lost your brother. But you are your brother's voice and hero! Im so glad you were able to get away from him, God Bless You!
Fantastic interview from this Gentleman!
His story, Wayne’s story changed to contradict the evidence every year. You can social justice this until the cows come home but he did it.
We now have the ability to process DNA evidence. Unless the evidence has been destroyed, that would seem to be the next logical step in determining who committed these horrific crimes.
A lot of evidence was destroyed or has disintegrated to be useless. It never should have been allowed into evidence as well as the "profile" give these were in their infancy.
It's so sad how Wayne Williams to this day is manipulating the victim's family.
This is one of the saddest parts for sure. It’s sad it’s been turned into a race thing. This Man is a killer that’s why the killings stopped because he’s locked up.
Appreciate MindHunter team for their amazing work. A true masterpiece!👌
Why aren't the kids that was with isaac rogers saying anything? If they all saw wayne Williams why are they staying quiet. Makes no sense
Good question! Isaac said his memories of that night were vivid and he spoke with conviction that it was Wayne, so I'd like to hear from the other 2 kids
RIP all those taken by this monster. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I believe Issac Rogers. I was 13 at this time and remember seeing the news reports when Wayne Williams was arrested. You don’t forget what he looks like. He has that unique of a look.
Such a sad, heart breaking time for these innocent children's families. RIP 💐
What did that man do to make the children run from him, I wonder. Or it might just be an example of kids having a sixth sense? 👏🏾😩
Can we all acknowledge how MUCH exposure and attention this case gained BECAUSE of Season 2 of Mind Hunters?
We should give flowers to David Fincher for his incredibly well done series exposing these behaviors and introducing the psychology of these terrible, unforgivable humans.
My father remembered seeing Wayne Williams at the Fulton County Courthouse in the early 80’s right after he was captured. Said he was one of the creepiest guys he’s ever encountered. Just a blank expression, like he was wearing a kabuki mask or something. He believes Wayne did it. Not sure if he did them all, but he did some.
I believe Wayne was eccentric, but not a killer
@@rucianapollard7098 Good thing your beliefs are not suffice
@@rucianapollard7098 good thing you are not judge da jury member or police officer. Cause you’re stupid
@@rucianapollard7098he was for sure a killer it was easy as hell for a black man in Atlanta at the time to be made to look innocent
Someone commented that in prison Wayne Williams is uniquely strong & other crooks trying to fight him get hurt badly by him!!
Another man came forward who said when he was a kid Wayne picked him up in his car and groped him and he elbowed him and managed to get away. He said he wanted to speak out to make sure people don't buy into the narrative that Wayne Williams is a victim.
This creep (wayne) is getting everything he wants. To be talked about.
To everyone that is interested in the case after Mindhunter, I highly recommend the Atlanta Monster Podcast that brought the case back into the spotlight over 2 years ago.
He did it wayne went crazy on the stand and then calmed down he looked possessed
This is true, John Douglas goes into more detail in his book Mindhunter.
@213rfghu nm link not working???
Someone blogged saying he lived near where Wayne lived & he said he always got a creepy feeling going by Wayne's house long before the murders started!!!!!
@@RonSafreed I believe it
I believe he killed some but not all
According to research and the parents , the murders and missing children did NOT stop when Wayne was arrested . Rather , when parents reported their kids missing , the police would list them down as runaways and brush it off . So bc many were listed as runaways rather than missing , yes according to the police the incidents stopped
Absolutely 💯!! The official task force List was dismantle 2 weeks after Wayne's arrest, so the police stopped counting and the media stopped reporting
Don't want to burst your bubble but epstein and many others like Jim exist
The manor of killings stopped once he was arrested. His MO was chokeholds.
@@katelynhernandez7998yes,wayne had scratches on his face and arms
These murders were committed by several different people. This wasn't the work of a serial killer.
So glad you escaped.
These kids will be remembered in honor. Williams will be remembered as an SOB.
He kills someone's brother and he thinks by sobbing and writing love letters of redemption will clear his name? You know...these psychopathic Narcissists are really something!
Certain people still want to cover for a murderer and would rather blame in on someone of a different ethnicity. The murders stopped. The parents of the children never got justice for their children because of their own racism. So sad.
Yep 💯
Imagine facing your brothers killer and surviving to tell the story 🙏🏽❤️
I wouldn't have stuck around to find out, but maybe he was approaching this young man to harm maybe he wanted ask him about his brother being missig. You can tell how young some of the people are on this dicussion board is. they only know Wayne Williams from "Mindhunter". I lived this in real time. I was very young but, I was aware of what was going on. I remember wearing a Green ribbon in the victims honor.
This is a touchy case. Keep in mind Wayne Williams was never convicted of any of the children's murder. If, he really did this or was in cahouts with others who did this all I can say to him; admit it you are not getting any younger bare your soul and ask God for forgiveness. If you are innocent pray that a greate power will let the truth be known. If people don't think people get framed for crimes they did commit all I can say is remember the Central Park 5 I grew up in NYC and I lived that in real time too,
My Condolences 💐 to All the Family’s for their Lost 😔
Amen
I remember how Panicked all Parents, Schools, Kids were back then. CRAZY.
now i wonder how people still dissapear with cameras everywhere🤔
DeKalb county born & raised. This gives me chills & I was born in the 90's.
@Ja Tall this is not the only person that recalls seeing Wayne Williams during that time
MrWARBUCKS24 where are your sources
His cousins left him... smh..
Why. That. Was sad
he's very handsome
They were kids.
@@YANAMization rule of thumb if there is trouble one person should sacrifice themselves in order to save others ...you go this way ,I'll go that way GOOD LUCK!
I just finished watching the mini series. This is heartbreaking that he cant even come to grips of what he did and seek forgiveness from their family and everyone that loved them babies. I dont care if they were 5 or 50 we are all someones baby. God bless the victims and my God embrace their loved ones with his eternal love
I thank this man for coming forward to tell his story and to confirm that at least Wayne Williams was involved in SOME of the murders. What a tragedy for these childrens families! May God bring them peace knowing they will be united again. Amen🙏
I'm glad this good man came forward and confirmed "they got the right guy".
Ahhh, further evidence that Wayne Williams was indeed the killer.
I hope this man hasn't been mistreated by those who think Williams is innocent. I hope the DNA results come back soon to put the matter to rest and to insure charges for Williams for the children's' murders.
The DNA has not excluded nor included Wayne as the killer
Wow! I live here in Atlanta and it was FEAR during the 80's. I always wondered if anyone ever got away. My prayers to all the families
I member wen my brother came home with his shirt tore all off him my mom said what the hell wrong with u he stated mom they got my friend but my mom said somebody whip yo ass he said nawl mom they got my friend an i got away.he was shook all up scared 2 death an mom said stay in the hous till they catch that killer.an my brother said it was wayne Williams he said he kno how he look an everything..
I’m black and I believe you. He may not have killed all 29 but he sure ain’t innocent. Look at the scratches on his neck at 1:14
@@gimbiyarus who was the friend that was abducted? What happened to him?
YEAH, SO WHO WAS THE FRIEND?
Terry G oh shut up. Bich a log of blk children from ATL that got away said they have the right guy. Blk ppl need to quit tryna make him innocent from watching the internet.
@@gimbiyarus first time i saw his mugshots, he just wreaked freak vibes, something feels "off." in some pics when he was skinny, he looked like some kind of broken jaw, crocodile humanoid. seriously why though? why does god allow humans to be like this? so fucking disgusting
Mindhunter brought me here
I watched an old A&E "Cold Case Files" episode on Wayne Williams back in the day. Kinda spoiled Season 2 of Mindhunter for me since I knew who they'd eventually arrest & that it'd be legit. The Cold Case Files episode was more fact-driven, newsreporting and less for dramatic purposes. Wish I could find it on CZcams somewhere.
Wow..I remember this case & how a lot of people said he was framed😬, not now
Remember this time in Atlanta like it was yesterday. Was in East Point but not that far from Atlanta.
Keep Wayne Williams in prison.
1:14 Look at his neck. Where did those scratches come from? Hmmmm
Good observation
@@rucianapollard4057 Thank you. I noticed immediately, but I also remember a coworker of his in another documentary stated that he came to work in the studio with numerous scratches up his arm and blamed it on the family cat.
Then his DNA would HAVE to be under his victims nails.
Pllm30 Good eye 👌🏾
@@tennesseestephani1569 there was no DNA tests available before
I remember the missing kids faces on the sides of the buildings in Bowen Homes, I grew up in Atlanta off BankHead.
This is so sad 🙏❤️🕊
Prosecutors could have presented evidence in more than 10 child murders but felt there was no need. Williams was sentenced to back-to-back life terms.
Prosecutors throughout metro-Atlanta felt that was enough.
“You’ve got a guy and he’s got two consecutive life sentences,” says Drolet. “The feeling was, we don’t plan on doing the trial again.”
Over the years, families of some of the victims have expressed disappointment. It dogged former Fulton County District Attorney Lewis Slayton all the way up to the day of his retirement.
“What about the critics that say the case was never really solved?” Slayton was asked in 1996.
“I would say they (the murders) stopped,” answered Slayton.
Because I believe they know he did it but can't prove it so they got him on other murders.
@@goldieslacksbc they don’t have any real evidence. They had evidence on other men but threw it away bc they wanted it to be done and over with
@@hope4937 where did you read that?
I just want to hug this man! Ugh..so terrifying! ❤ Isaac Rogers ❤
I was good friends with a old retried city of Atlanta police officer and he said Wayne Williams was 100 percent guilty and the reason he didn't was that he actually hated black people.
I kind of doubt that self hatred of one's race would drive them to become a serial killers.
@@rucianapollard7098 Agreed. That’s such a flimsy excuse of a motive.
I like how Isaac Rogers seems to have really recovered over several decades. And he doesn't even use any vulgarity in his interview. I can't believe how polite he was even when talking about his cousins murderer
Why WOULD he use vulgarity in this video and how is him being so polite so shocking to you? If he was still angry after all these years about his near death experience with that monster he has every right to be!
Rather he was innocent or not this was a very scary time for parents in Atlanta. I was child in Atlanta during this time period and didn’t get why I couldn’t do things like ride my bike to the store or walk to my friends house alone. It wasn’t until I was older that I understood why
Weird the murders stop when he's arrested
@@leeandrew8987 This is false
@@Nah.ImCool it is absolutely true. But it is not conclusive as people think
It's clear Williams is guilty on. this evidence alone after is arrest the killings ceased, but more than that a killer like this would not allow someone else to get credit for his work. I know thats a strong description but it's true serial killers are often protective of their legacy, their is some sick sense authorship over the crimes. He would have at least sent a letter maybe even proof like a piece of clothing explains that he was still out there, with the many children he killed the killer was extremely crafty, intelligent and most assuredly a narcissist. Even if and it's a big if, if the killer allowed Williams to take the fall and he moved on elsewhere after what he got away with his ego would be so inflated, he would feel invincible he would act like i, another town or city would've noticed black children going missing almost and bodies being found frequently almost immediately after. Pointing to Williams innocent and clearly that didn't happen no killer gets away with this and just stops killing after 28 especially with high success rate of evading capture, sadly the only thing I can say is that sometimes killers do in fact realise they've caused a stir in an area and move on somewhere else and their crimes either are not as frequent or evade detection altogether. It's believed by many the Jack the Ripper either died possibly unexpectedly or moved on elsewhere where his crimes where not detected. In this case I believe Williams is guilty and they got their man I really would find it hard to believe after killing so many a Serial Killer would not claim responsibility either with another body or some communication with law enforcement, or he had decided to move as I said somewhere in the US would have noticed a increase in missing black kids and child murders. So sad all those poor kids and their parents no parent should have to go through that and feel that body cares for long enough.
You raise really good points. I did think of one possibility, despite all that.
What if, by some circumstance, Williams wasn't the real killer, but the real killer died (or became disabled, or went to jail for something else) right when Williams did? Hell, maybe the real killer was injured or killed by a would-be victim fighting back. Or someone else discovering the killer and enacting vigilante justice.
I just like thinking up ways that something COULD happen, though. What I suggested isn't that likely, especially given how many victims there were in such a short time.
I don't know enough yet to have an opinion on Williams' guilt or innocence. I'm probably going to do a deep dive into the case soon. It's so sad.
@@whateverlolawants Everytime the Police had a person of interest a body would would show up for the news cameras. Wayne was telling them im still out there.
Wayne Williams returning to the exact same place to snatch a child where one of the earlier victims was snatched...FOH.
Dahmer got most of his victims from the same bar. Gacy got most of his victims from the same area as well. That’s pretty common for serial killers
@@wildhearts242 Dahmer actually sexually assaulted the brother of one of his victims, years before the victim was murdered.
It's called a hunting ground.
I'm glad that he came forward. So many people are trying to claim that Williams is innocent.
Bless this victim. RIP to his brother.
Shame to the fools out there believing WW to be innocent.
Then they let wayne williams go the same night and they said a body was floating up a river 2 days later like WTF man, why didnt they find the body the same night when they heard the splash and you let him go which doesn't make any sense.
Corey Mcgee plus Nathaniel Cater’s autopsy says his body was in the water more than 5 days! They can determine how long by how much bloat and deterioration the body had.
@@OldskolFan I figured that
My twin sister and I were scared to death of the murderer when we were 6-8. After WW was arrested the murders stopped. Our daddy said so too. I believe he killed the kids.
It's not a coincidence that no more kids were going missing like that after he was arrested
I’ve watched this story( on diff channels) and Mr. Williams, is guilty and it’s sad that most of the families thought he was innocent.
Watch the documentary u will think otherwise
@@hope4937 No she won’t. You just can’t discern the truth.
It's crystal clear he is guilty. You can see him laghing through his eyes when saying he is innocent.@@hope4937
He definitely did some. And of course the kkk may have used the uneasiness of the whole situation to an advantage to further damage the community. Not all 29 but definitely some
@Proud2be White lmfao, in the late 70's you don't think the KKK murdered at least one child?
Let me ask you... how likely would it be for an adolescent street kid to get into a white guys car in a black neighborhood....and NOBODY would notice? How likely would it be for a kid to get into a STRANGERS car black or white when kids are disappearing like popcorn in a theatre? This guy pulled it off because he was FAMILIAR to kids, he was local and he was psychopath narcissist who thought hed out-smarted everyone. He handed flyers out for kids in the age range of the dead when kids were vanishing.
It was actually more than 29 in the real files but they didn't want to include anymore after the arrest. A few lies here and there along with destroyed files make this the most weirdest case in history i swear. And the fact that a killer or killers were never actually convicted of all the crimes is crazy.
@Proud2be White I'll be honest and say that this case was so weird because the KKK were actually making threats in ATL back in the mid 70's and before hand. Not many were caught in their acts but things did happen and with this madness going on back then white or black nobody wanted the blame on either side really but the truth is police got lazy and never solved these cases which is still suspect till this day.
@@mrs.schmenkman you make a good point tho and some of the kids were actually kidnapped from inside their homes which is crazy and rumors say that some were also kidnapped miles away from their homes too which they don't speak on much but when you're far from home then anybody can be involved at that point.
peace brother, so sorry for the loss of your brother
You have the blood, Wayne on the bridge, the matching of his bed spread and rug fibers, the hair on Patrick Balthazar, and a slap Jack hidden in his ceiling. Plus, Homer and Wayne burning pictures ( even Homer said it was “old film”) at 4am, right after he got home from the bridge stop. He’d don’t kill them all, but they believe he killed 12-15 of them. Wayne is a sociopath. He will never admit to it.
Just finished watching Mindhunter & wanted to do some of my own research........the good side of our personality wants to believe there is good in everyone, & perhaps there is, but a small percentage of us, it doesn't seem to matter, like in this case......Wayne Williams does not come across guilty, but all evidence said he was, & in cases like this, thank god there was enough evidence, or more of these unfortunate murdered children could have been even a higher number.......I try as a person, to see the good in everyone, however, any human that could hurt, injure, abuse, or kill a child, or a defenseless animal, a senior, a disabled person, or any living being that can not defend themselves, are the lowest form of life, & do not deserve to live among us(period)........
My question is, did the killing stop after Wayne Williams was arrested?
I hear they did NOT stop. The media just stopped reporting them.
Yes..they stopped.
@@OldskolFan they did stop during that time when wayne got arrested
No you should read Those Bones Are Not My Child by Toni Cade Bambara
@@garyjohnson7626 no they didn’t . The task force was simply closed and they filed parents reports as run a way kids
Those poor children. What a nightmare. 😢☠️👎
People should not be forgotten we will always go threw things as a human race but never forget !
I believe the brother. Glad you're alive
There’s a really good podcast called the Atlanta monster that goes into some good detail about this case
Po bias podcast to create the narrative Wayne is innocent
boxing messabout with my don round 2 crazy thing is he probably is...this case was major in american history n it is a possibility they chose a fall guy to compemsate for bad police work to make the police look like they are dependable
Yes definitely possible, have y’all heard of the innocence project?
Williams did it. God bless you and keep you, Mr. Rogers. I'm sorry you lost your brother, I lost mine, too.
Wow !!! William was a wolf and a dangerous man rest in peace to all who died.
A wolf doesn't compare to this monster.
@@b52incoming.48 He was a wolf in that he pretend to be good but,a monster in that he destroyed humans lives so let say wolfmonster still both are of the devil this case really hurt my soul still to this day rest on young brothers and rest on with Farther Abraham 🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
So glad that he got away. I remember this happening when I was in grade school and junior high school. Hope he is doing well. RIP to all of the victims.