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In our latest Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim video we delve what could be considered the Most EVIL Spell.
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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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I'm not a necromancer, I'm a healer who doesn't know when to quit.
Lmao i love this
The guardian circle animation when you hold the charge is pretty cool.
If the body is sick be kind and soul trap them, so that they wouldn't suffer from their mortal coil.
So u knock em down and heal and *Repeat?*
That has to be the best reasoning for necromancy I've ever heard.
I soul trapped nazeem...he'll never get to the cloud district again
Drop the gem into pleb district sewer!
The Blancmange I have it sitting on my table in my house right now
Use him for a wooden sword enchanting
someone needs to make a helmet using his head as a model so we can enchant it with Speech increase coz he needn't be a dick after death as well lol
oof
Obviously, it's the alteration spell Candlelight.
To OP needs nerfed
Yes dragon! you will learn fear as you fall before the power of my mighty candlelight spell!
Oh, pish posh! How wrong you are, friend! For it is the sticky photon-radiating power of....*gasp*...magelight, that is the most cruel in the land.
Freezes game*
If the thing emulated sunlight it could be used to torture vampires.
So just found out that pretty soul gems, are actually petty soul gems. I've been misreading it since oblivion came out
I had a sudden vision of a hagraven hunched over a nest full of gems whispering “Hush my pretties, hush. Pretty pretty pretty.”
I did that too. I kinda prefer it now.
(Raises hand)
You're not the only one...
I did that too lmao
Dyslexia powers: Activate! XD
Not as cruel as finding out Mercer pulled one of the biggest bamboozles on us
God i remember i had trusted mercer so much, never thought he would ever betray/harm me
When he betrayed the thieves guild i was actually shocked.
@@Arcxzal ditto. Dark Brotherhood I kind of saw coming. Didn't know how it was going to go exactly, but could see it. But thieves guild? Mind blown.
Never trusted him, I mean his surname is FREY!
@@A_annoying_rodent Also it's the THIEVES GUILD!!! NEVER trust thieves especially not the head honcho. :)
Truth is ,The game was rigged from the start
Given that the Dwemer were so big on Enchanting, it's likely they forcibly devolved the Falmer for easy and plentiful souls.
Lucky Jedi very good point
Never though of it that way...
Nice theory :3
What if the Dwemer killed each other for souls, and all of those automatons are the remnants of the Dwemer?
@@elephystry that can't be because you find white soulgems in dwarven automatons and not black soulgems
@@TheBlop999 but black soul gems are very expensive and wanted, so i can see the devs not having them drop on this rather common enemy.
"Necromancy is unethical!" Yeah animating a SOULESS CORPSE is unethical but literally mind controlling people is juuuuuust fine.
Gamin' Reasons To be fair, depending on what they were mind controlled for, the person is free once the spell has elapsed. You will NEVER be free when you’re soul trapped.
@@cloudftw113 at which point you get to enjoy a life sentence in prison for killing all those people when you were being controlled. Or maybe an execution.
Johan Öhgren That’s if they don’t know if you were mind controlled. There may be a way for the court mage to tell (to be fair I don’t know if there is myself).
@@cloudftw113 Somehow I doubt the legal system in Skyrim will take account of anyone being mind-controlled, as for the court mage, the relationship between the court mages and the Jarls are a bit sketchy at best.
From no partnership, to mutual distrust to accusations of spionage.
Actually, the only good Jarl-Court Mage relationship appears to be Jarl Balgruf and Farengar.
I believe the Jarls would sentence anyone regardless if they were mind-controlled or not.
@@johan.ohgren From what I can tell the court system of Skyrim for the people that i randomly cast rage on in town seems to be a sword gang bang with the guards
I literally collect every soul I can and throw them in a barrel in my basement. If they didn't want us to do it they shouldn't have made the sound effects and visuals so cool
Conjured bow ftw
Same. I use a mod that adds Soul magic spells to the game for easy harvesting lol.
Same it's so damm satisfying
Aculy taking a humans soul is bad taking animal souls is good.
The Hitler of Skyrim :D
That may be the most evil spell, but the most dangerous spell is certainly Transmute. This spell has the potential to destroy the entire economy of Tamriel, and how mages don't treat this spell like BitCoin must certainly be due to the most strict of regulations.
Gold doesn't seem to be very valuable though. It's not even worth it's own weight in gold septims, and septims aren't valuable at all. It can, however, be used to make very expensive jewelry, but for that you also need gems, and gems are actually valuable.
Cordiel Direnni which confuses me since Urag was willing to seek an Elder Scroll back to you for 4000 gold. A mere 4000.
Edit: damn you autocorrect!
@@A.R.T.4 or when you had to seek 5 ice wraith teeth for that merchant and she gives you a novice spell tome and 5 raw pieces of chicken... bruh...
Indo a Matsko yeah it’s like killing a grizzly bear for someone and they give you a sandwich as a reward like miss me with that shit
@@A.R.T.4 i'm dead😂😂😂 also when you do the dark brotherhood assasinations as a low level player... 250 septims for each contract TF
My DragonBorn: .... *Soul Tear on any random bandit, stealing their soul AND making them a zombie*
They'll be fiiiiiiiiiine.
That bandit was an orphan conscripted into the bandit's service as a young boy and banditry was the only life he ever knew.
Marinanor hey, he tried to kill me. His existence was forfeit.
@@Marinanor and he was a murderer who forced other people to forfeit their lives, he earned his punishment.
Settle down, Satan.
I like how we basically never hear about this in Skyrim.
When I was a young lad, and not very knowledgeable about the lore, I didn't even know that I was trapping people forever in the soul cairn, I just wanted to enchant my pants. When I later learnt about how soul trapping actually worked, I realized I was far more evil than all those bandits I had dispatched.
Feels bad man.
I think the in-game book "Souls, Black and White" does mention that trapping black souls in unethical
This the perfect example of "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
That's how I felt when I learned that mehrune's razor claims the souls of those it kills with the instakill effect.
I only use soul trap when I get betrayed lol
@@firstnamelastname7244 You _did_ admittedly get it from a demon of chaos after killing a more or less innocent man by a sacrificial altar.
I don't know if you should really be surprised about that one chief
Wait, soul trapping and necromancy are bad?! Oh heck. *tries to hide an army of skeletons and black soul gems under her mattress*
*closet. You're supposed to hide skeletons in a closet...
@@bryanl1984 I heard that the skeletons have came out of the closet
@Youri van Steeg I sense sarcasm... Dont make me hide the Black Star under your pillow! Hold on, I just need to empty it out on one of these skeletons I keep around in... Damnit! Who's been in my skeleton room?!
Suffer not the furry
Lmao
Is it ethical to soul trap a vampire?
It is not certain what happens to a vampire's soul after death, but consensus opinion seems to point toward the soul going to Coldharbor for an eternity of torment at the hands of Molag Bal and his daedra. Is an eternity in the purgatory of the soul cairn preferable to an eternity of enslavement and systematic torture in Coldharbor?
Set up a place for vampires to come and let you soul trap them like "Hey, odds are you're gonna get killed eventually, and then you're gonna go to coldharbor and be tortured forever. You probably didn't even want to become a vampire in the first place but now you're stuck with it. You aren't able to cure yourself otherwise you would have by now, so just let me soul trap you and send you to the soul cairn, it's a significant improvement over your current deal." and just do that until Molag Bal sends someone to kill you.
This does give me an idea for a vampire hunter who soul traps every vampire they kill in a twisted attempt to "save" them. Carry the Black Star and a weapon with soul trap.
@@ryankunst668 this hase some very good role playing potential sir, but vampires are immortal. they don't die unless killed. Why would they really care about afterlife if they believe that they wont die.
@@gamingdealer9514 not every vampire became a vampire willingly. Consider Lamae Beolfag, the first vampire in Tamriel. She was a Nedic priestess who was savagely raped to death by Molag Bal and then rose from the dead as the first vampire at her funeral, slaughtering everybody in attendance. She recognised that she was an abomination and prayed to Arkay to destroy her, but the Aedra abandoned her and so she resolved to spread vampirism across the continent as an insult to Arkay. Perhaps there are other unwilling vampires who recognise themselves to be abominations.
Plus, the chance of being killed or dying accidentally approaches certainty over a long enough time frame. A once in 1000 years natural disaster that most mortals never experience would be something that a vampire would need to survive many times. Some may judge that the risk is not worthwhile.
@@gamingdealer9514 If you are immortal and cannot die except by being killed, then your chance of eventually being killed is now 100%. You may live for millennia, but someday, something is going to kill you. But I know they won't come willingly despite the fact it's a really good deal for them, they can't help it, the disease corrupts their mind. This is why I will save them from themselves with my Fiery Soultrap Dawnguard Axe I recently came up with.
+Ryan Kunst Vampires probably do not get treated as bad in Coldharbor like regular mortals who are turned into soul shriven. In ESO, you fight some vampiric legions in Coldharbor, but you have the option to get them to turn neutral or betray Molag Bal. Been a long time since I did the quest. I do not think vampires are treated as bad, plus considering the fact that most of them are way more powerful than regular mortals, and some are definitely on par with some lesser and greater daedra power rise. A vampire would be much harder for the Dremora, and Xivkyn to enslave in Coldharbor than a weak barkeeper who has never held a sword in his life, or never cast a basic candlelight spell. Molag Bal is all about being strong. Because if you are weak, you will get dominated or enslaved. So even weak Daedra can get punished easily by Bal. Vampires are not mortal, so a vampire that ends up in Coldharbor could be very powerful, especially if it is a daughter of Coldharbor or Vampire Lord like Harkon or Serana. If I was a vampire, an eternity in Coldharbor would not be that bad unless I was a "fledgling" or low rank vampire like a Mistwalker. If I am a Nightstalker, Master Vampire, or higher ranking vampire, I would probably be good as long as my power matches that of most of the generic lesser and greater Daedra.
The most evil spell is when Todd casts a charm spell and tells us lies
Redguards hate illusion, conjuration and enchanting so.
What can you expect from fraud coward.
Ooo the salt
The thing about that spell? It just works.
@J Fz For the canvas bags you ask. No. Hes a fraud for almost anything he has said or done after Morrowind.
* soul traps ebony warrior * let's see you go to sovengarde now
Yeet
I see you worship Molag Bal.
Mighty Lion Affiliates Even without soul trapping, I'm not sure he could he go to Sovngarde since he's a Redguard. Isn't the Hall of Valor a Nord only clubhouse?
@@avatareternal3204 No. Any descendents from the original hero people can enter, regardless of race. It's just that every Nord is a descent while the same cannot be said for the other races.
No, this man IS molag bal
That one that summons the bear with a guitar.
Truly despicable.
the bear god. Pulp talos
Lute bear
Every Thalmor gets a special black soul gem.
Fuck you, elven supremacy is the only way
@@ServantofBaal True
@@ServantofBaal ey fuck you leatherman
Considering the Thalmor are TES Nazis, I’d say that’s pretty fair
Gives me an idea... Gonna soul trap every single guard whos taken an arrow to the knee or dismisses my missing sweet roll then put each one in a ring and mark them by number in my playthrough now...
Nord: On this day, I go to Sovngarde
Me with the Soul Tear shout:
Well no, but actually no
Well im really saving you from alduin eating you...
@@abellator7560 do you think some realms could continue existing after each new kalpa starts?
@@thelocdesiringentryintoyou3686 Do "I" believe other such a "Daedric"realms stay in existence after a kalpa event? yes and no, some realms may survive i.e Dagon lord of Revolution and Molag Bal/ Ruddy man Chief of the Dreugh But are changed by the the Kalpa. Some Aedra/Deadra are simply wiped out or just rendered near powerless to interact with Nirn in any way such a as Umarils father who was supposed to be one of the most powerful Dieties in his time but I do not believe that the Ideal Masters would survive a Kalpa Event because as powerful as they are they are not truly immortal as they require a constant amount of souls to feed on in order to exist
I hope this made some sense but this is my opinion
@@abellator7560 well I didn’t necessarily mean daedric realms which is why I said realms. I agree though I like your thinking.
Say cheese roggvir. I said CHEEESE!!! Now your soul is mine. MINE!!! That wasn't a camera, it was a soul gem.
My cousin's out fighting dragons and what do I get? sweetroll lore duty
I wouldn't mind that actually
Damn there needs to be a shirt with your comment
Sweettroll
Their loss
I still find it funny how my wabajack turned a horker into an ectoplasm pile trickled with gold coins and a sweet roll on top...
Before watching the video: Is it "Soul Trap?"
After: Yep. It's "Soul Trap."
“Heh”
*the Dragonborn slowly inches out of the room*
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the Dwemer machines that run on soul gems.
A lot of them seem to be empty soul gems, however, although the mechanism is still working.
The Magic Anomalies in the College of Winterhold quest line seem to always have a filled common soulgem in them.
I soultrapped Grelod and used her to put Chaos and Burning Soul Trap on a Daedric mace.
Justice.
Reasonable.
Honestly she probably gets off every time you whack a bandit.
I did the exact same thing. Well I used health absorb and burning soultrap.
@@FallenRingbearer I use it to beat my adopted brats with.
Part of me likes to imagine there's some way to escape the soul cairn, like how Kodlak mentions Sovngarde liberating souls from the Hunting grounfs
Last time I was this early Padomay had just created Sithis
Last time I was this early only Anu existed
Nice to see some true lore buffs in the comments
Last time I was this late to a project, Auri-El and his buddies had just fired Lorkhan's heart from a bow. That's the last time I'm drinking the night before creation.
Last time i was this late the LDB was using his CHIM infused console and mods to make himself into an anime girl with JJ cup tits.
Last time I was this early the Dreamer hadn't fallen asleep yet
"that disgusts me more than any type of magic. This practice is soul trapping"
My enchanter character: **hides black soul gems**
Where do you find them?
I don't think it's always bad, if you soul trap a molag bal follower you're actually giving them something better than what they would get normally
i love how Black Souldgems are handled in Oblivion; very rare to find and utterly abhorred when found.
The best part is the ritual in which they are made. The game never outright tells you how to do it; you can learn of it via a book and if you happen to follow the steps listed therein you'll get a black soul gem. It really made me feel like a mage; scouring obscure tomes for arcane lore to boost my power
Tbf in skyrim, they are primarily found in extremely esoteric locations or purchased from very clearly illegal vendors, I think the rarity in skyrim is fine but they should definitely have included more obvious moral ambiguity around using them. Considering that oblivion doesn't flesh out 'dark magic' to the extent that skyrim does, its hard to compare their level of obscurity directly.
Yeah you have a good point - pretty sure some are just levelled and will be a black gem depending on how high your level is, but seeing one in a Hagraven’s lair or a Vampire’s den or those mage ‘gangs’ that you sometimes encounter occupying military forts or fighting and killing bandits to enslave them for undead battle allies and manual labour (eg Ustengrav) or the woman who is a powerful necromancer using raised draugr for the same purpose; I forget her name; she’s trying to resurrect her dead husband and raises the Ancient Nordic lovers as Draugr Deathlords (I couldn’t help but feel a little bit sorry for her tbh) does make sense given that there’s such dark magics at work.
Aside from that there are the geode veins in Blackreach which have a random chance to yield a black soul gem when mined, but I think that’s likely just a small oversight on the part of the developers forgetting to remove them as a possibility as they involve a dark ritual to actually create one, although I daresay that a mod could be made to do this if it bothered them enough :)
I remember soul trapping Almalexia inside Azura's star to make a glove that shoots fireballs like a machine gun.
I trapped Almalexia in Azura's Star, too, by accident. I wanted to trap her in a standard grand soul gem so I could put her next to Vivec in my Telvanni lab. I was hoping to collect all three, but it was not to be.
As an aside, I do miss that the name of the trapped soul is not revealed in the soul gem anymore like in Morrowind.
Zotan Inoron whoah where did you find Vivec and Almalexia?
@@norielsylvire4097 he's talking about Morrowind not Skyrim
Shadic24367 one question; in Morrowind you can travel trough all Tamriel, can't you?
Noriel Sylvire No thats why its called morrowind and not tamriel
What do you call a flying Khajiit?
Khayeet
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Delete ur account there is nothing left here for you
@@Teoga2 I will forever make jokes on FudgeMuppet videos, and you can't stop me.
A Kitty space mission
Joking around can cause serious harm, I'm not joking, it can cause punintended consequences.
Intergalactic tHiC-bOi here hold this W
Honestly. I will probably start a rabbit farm.
1. They can multiply.
2. More numbers, more souls.
3. Meat.
Now I sell filled soul gems and meat!. Two for the price of one.
They would be petty souls though. Best you can do us use advanced methods of conjuration to summon powerful daedra inside some sort of cage. Soultrap and kill them. It's fairly benign, since Daedra do not get their animus trapped, they always return to oblivion when killed, even if you take the power for yourself.
Well, petty souls but you can use them to create waterbreathing rings and sell them. Waterbreathing is one of the few enchantments which doesn't depend on the souls, giving the same result everytime.
@@proximityclockworkx1572 True, you could make money using enchantments that don't require power behind it. But my method is better for the actually powerful enchantments. Besides, bunny-rabbits get trapped in the soulcairn, daedra do not.
Hey that would actually be a cool concept for an NPC in TES6
@@Auriel_Direnni No, only souls caught by black soul gems go to the Soul Cairn
Have to say, I agree completely with your analysis of the soul trap spell. Now imagine for a second an even worse curse. You get soul trapped and your soul is used to enchant a weapon with soul trap. Now not only is your after life ruined, you are now the direct cause of the loss of an after life for countless others.
Me when I arrive at the soul cairn: By the nine! I'll never soul trap again!
Me five minutes later: YOU get to go to hell, YOU get to go to hell, EVERYONE gets to go to hell.
Before watching I'm going to guess it's Soul Trap
Yup I was thinking that too
This is more than enough reason to become a devoted follower to Azura or Hircine. Cant be trapped forever when you belong to their domains. Even Sovngarde can't save you from soul trapping. Inb4 the Star absorption, she would not let your soul be used by her star if you were her loving and faithful child.
Ulfric is destined to go to Sovngarde so he is inmune to soul trap.
it is corrupted if it takes black souls. Pretty sure she has no power over it at that point
@@chickentendies4395 The Black Star isn't really corrupted; it's just another physical manifestation of Azura's dichotomy between dusk and dawn. It is the counterpart to Azura's Star. She literally says that whatever choice you make was always destined and that you can do with the Star what you see fit. She wanted you to have either form as a sort of litmus test for your personality. Would you be complacent and use the Star for white souls "as intended" or are you more power hungry and willing to damn your enemies for your own empowerment? It was always what she intended; she guided the Star towards you for that purpose. It is still directly connected to her either way. She literally says that it will fade back into her realm of Oblivion in due time either way and that in the meantime she wants you to use it.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how far gaming had come over the last half century or so? Seriously, the stories, graphics, gameplay, etc, is just phenomenal these days...
I second this. 40 years ago, it was Pong, a little ball bouncing around on screen. Nowadays we have hundreds of alternate realistic universe orders of magnitude more complex than even our own, it's mind boggling.
Only bad thing is that it seems to be slowly degenerating... With focus on graphics instead of gameplay and story.
Damn it. When I play Skyrim I would freely fill Black Soul Gems with Bandits souls. Now I feel like crap. Despite playing Dawnguard multiple time. I gave no consideration to the bandits. I didn't even think of it been one of the most evil things you can do in the game.
Well, you can just change the practice to Soul Trap Random Encounter Thalmor instead
Since you're soul trapping bandits, the way I see it (and I would perfectly understand if you disagree), is that the ethical issue has been negated since bandits are bad, by putting exclusively bad people to that fate I would consider it a good act.
@@declanmacgregor7603 no matter who the person is, I would never soul trap anyone. Killing bandits is fine because of the crimes they commit but to soul trap someone is just inhumane. I would hope someone else kills me instead of soul trapping me, to show the same compassion I would show them
@@declanmacgregor7603 but even as bandits and thieves, i don’t think they deserve an infinite punishment for a finite crime. at some point, their misery and anguish far outweighs the same emotions that theyve caused to others
The most evil spell was created by lord dagon to create a creature of havoc and chaos
*NAZEEM*
@point zero gaming best thing i have ever heard
@ unlike you?
@@johan.ohgren how original. You're so clever
@ It just seems to me that you are just what what you are accusing Op of. Not funny, and desperate for attention.
Happy to see so many people play Skyrim up til this day
I'd argue the most evil one is probably Festus Krex's inside-out implosion.
Is it wrong that I want there to be a mod (maybe a small quest?) where Festus teaches you that spell? Cause it sounds really cool for a demonic mage character.
I dunno, I think Aligators are pretty scary.
Haven't heard of this spell since I don't really run with The Dark Brotherhood. But since you do mention it, I do wonder if it's similar or even the same as Delphine Jend's Enemies Explode spell in Oblivion.
"If they were weak enough to be soul trapped then their soul didn't deserve a 'good' afterlife"
Would be what a Telvanni would say
I was pretty heartbroken to see Jiub in the soul carin.
These videos made me take a step back and redo most of my characters entirely
Moral compass roleplay is a major part of my playthroughs
And the only acception I now have on my hero characters is the black soul gems that are already filled
As you can't do anything for them now, and in their place. I'd rather be in the cairn with others than alone in the same gem for all eternity
Don’t get me wrong it’s definitely a cruel and vile act but it also works as a good punishment for a certain redguard I know that never shuts up about the cloud district
"Yes, we should outlaw all use of black soul gems!" *quietly puts Black Asura's Star in back of desk*
The most evil spell is actually falicus Sevencus
It forces someone to buy a copy of Fallout 76 and play it for 5 days straight with no breaks. I wouldn’t even wish that on my own worst enemy.
All jokes aside good vid fudge muppet.
Dang, lol.
Honestly they could have done way better with fallout 76 as it just seems like a sub par looter shooter to me
I'd argue Ark for switch is FAR worse. That port is unplayable.
But you got internet varables because not everyone has reliable fast internet so does the spell wait till it's done downloading with can take a few weeks with all the updates and patches and what if the download takes more than a month it happens
I’m enjoying FO76, definitely needs some changes but I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of story, spoken and unspoken, in it. The voice acting and setpieces are some of the best yet in the lore. I just wish it wasn’t so glitchy. Slowly getting better though
Huh, kinda strange how empty the soul cairn is then.
Considering what I've been up to.
;)
I soul trap the thalmor
They want their Immortality? Sure, Just stand still, and this may hurt a fucking lot! >:D
Agreed. They deserve fates worst than death.
Alexis Newton That’s so sick and so fitting I love it
If you think about how elven souls are reborn anew, that may just be the cruelest action ever!!!
Lol, your prof pic maches
If a bandit is stupid enough to attack me as I am wearing full dragon-bone armor that is dripping in magic, they deserve to be soul trapped and return to me the power that I wasted in killing them.
And then there is always "that guy" who you just really hate and that just killing them is not enough of a punishment. They really need to SUFFER for slighting you.
Also what happens when a Deadric is Soul Trapped? I have trapped a ton of those bastards back in Morrowind. It was so convenient to Soul Trap your summon back in the day.
So someone deserves that for being stupid or just being someone you personally hate?
@@daintysload yes
@@daintysload It depends on your frame of mind in the moment. When a bandit is trying to kill you but he physically cant, it makes you wonder if he is intelligent enough to be considered a "black" soul
Sometimes I end up doing as an afterthought because I am armed with a Fiery Soultrap, elemental chaos enchanted sword and I forget that I carrying a black soul gem.
Because no one in the games really reacts to your greatness or infamy it kinda encourages you to be bit of an ass in a meta sense.
@@QseftJohn
Yeah, in meta sense no one actually gives a shit. But your original comment sounded like you were justifying the act as if it were real, so that's how I responded. It's a really awful justification.
Also, all humans are black souls, are they not?
In a real life situation, I think denying a peaceful afterlife is possibly the most awful thing you could possibly do regardless of what they did in their time living. Of course, some need to be punished, but not for eternity.
when you soul trap Nazeem it should fill a petty soul gem.
The most evil spell was made by
*Nazeem*
I'll have you know there's no pussssssssssiieeeee
Guess you don’t go to the cloud district often
It’s the illusion spell: nazeem’s farm
Do you get to the top very often.
Real Whiterun money.
Oh yea yea
How come animals don’t end up in the soul carin (except Arvak) ?
Not just Arvak; there's some cows in there, too
Also saw a few deer and pretty sure even a dog once
Animals (ie white souls) only go to the Soul Cairn when the Ideal Masters are directly involved in the transfer of energy upon the use of the Soul Gem. This explains the limited number of white souls found in the Soul Cairn.
The essence of what they are, or their consciousness or soul etc is absorbed back into Atherius and thus not sent to the Soul Cairn. This is why the use of white souls for enchanting is seen as acceptable.
The transfer of power from a black soul into an enchanted object through soul trap and subsequent pact with the Ideal Masters that you have gathered and trapped a soul for them and now want great power gives them the right to claim the soul and the consciousness that goes with it while giving you the energy to create a powerful enchantment.
Hope that kind of makes sense: basically white souls are natural and are a natural energy source on Nirn, while black soul energy comes from the Ideal Masters subverting the soul.
Or at least that's the current theory lol
Awww I thought I was on to something with arvak being human or something. Thanks though
2:32 For some reason, my mind heard that as "immense Jewish needs" and I was trying to wrap my head around that for a second lol
Hey I'm not sure if I'm the only one who found this but I was playing Skyrim and slumming around riften I broke into mjol the lionesses house and found a letter hidden under the first table on the left addressed to mjol begging for help from the people of dawnstar I believe aerin hid it to keep mjoll from leaving also isn't it odd that a man as far as we can tell unarmored and armed only with a dagger managed to brave the frozen reaches and insane number of bandits in Skyrim as well as what could he possibly been doing that far from riften? I only come to the conclusion that he was already following her. And has anyone noticed he will move in to your house with no hesitation or invitation and just follow mjoll around. Does anyone else know anything creepy about aerin?
Talk about a stalker. Wow. To be fair, she's one of the finest catches in Skyrim.
@@Auriel_Direnni Debatable. Serena, Senna, Lydia.
Possessive and controlling indeed.
@@ki-td5yb Lydia is whiny, Serena is not a catch.
It's highly implied he's a member of that werewolf hunting group look under his bed. There's a silver sword.
Daedric bow with soul trapping was my favourite weapon
My Nordic Bow with Soul Trap is probably one of my favorite weapons.
Mine is bound bow.
Automatic soul trap
Yes! Thank you! Ever since I've learned about the soul cairn I haven't been able to use soul gems. And I have been quite frustrated that no one else seemed to think it was bad. Now, when I get around to playing an evil playthrough, however... That's going to be another story
Using soul trap on a daedra is harmless. You catch the power of their soul, but their animus is returned to oblivion whee they reform. I would recommend that course of action. There are also other forms of enchanting, notably, Varla stones can be used to replenish enchantments, and the magic of those is captured from starlight. Of course we've lost the means to produce them due to the barbarity of men, but the Altmer developed a similar process. Soul trapping also has many more uses than purely for consuming the soul for an enchantment, some in benefit of the soultrapped.
They don't have a soul, per se, their animus is their equivalent.
Thus, what you capture is most likely their animus.
Many are total dicks either way, so I see nothing wrong with that.
If the bandits didn't want to empower my socks. Then they shouldn't attack me. Oh well at least the empty husks are useful cannon fodder.
*Waves staff of the Revenant
One thing I've sometimes wished that 𝘚𝘬𝘺𝘳𝘪𝘮 would let you do is, once you've become Arch-mage of the College and once you've visited the Soul Cairn, take some of the mages from the College to the Soul Cairn to show them 𝘫𝘶𝘴𝘵 how cruel and inhumane is the practice of soul-trapping sentient beings.
I’ve had a theory floating around in my head about trying to improve the Dead Thrall spell by using a trapped Black Soul in the corpse. It would be interesting to see how such a necromantic enchantment would play out if it succeeded. Would there be bleed-over of the soul into the reanimated body? Would the presence of a soul affect the intelligence of the thrall?
Hold up, I was under the impression Soul Trap still released the soul of the target, but only after the soul gem was used as a magika source. It was the black soul gems made by the Ideal Masters who would capture the souls of the mortal men and mer in the Soul Cairn once the gem was used. Thereby denying an afterlife for the victims.
You would be surprised to know that the black gem victims destin is also debatable
"Black soul gems are illegal and highly sought against."
Me.....*looks at 30 filled black gems and 50 empty*.....which mages decided this? I must ask an.....opinion
You could say there’ a *_Black Market_*
@@Wiggyam ba dum tsss
Serena used necromancy on a corpse (in a dwarven ruin) and as he turned to ashes, he said “thank you”.
I always soul trap Potema and use her for an awesome sword.
One of the neatest parts of the lore. Having to use souls to power magic items is such an awesome mechanic.
Am i the only one who uses soul trap as a sort of punishment for dungeon bosses?
I used it one Stormcloaks. One got away.
Most dungeon bosses are protecting the outside world or so its implied.
I automatically soul trap everything.
I use bound bow all the time.
I use it on nazeem
@@sircastic959 I use it on Tullius and his lapdogs... and I never have enough!
Use black soul gems on necromancers and only them its poetic justice and you get all the power you want, problem solved
I use it on bandits/Reavers, vampires, and anyone else who decides it's a good day to die when they see me. I forgot to mention necromancers, but I especially love soul trapping them for the very reason you mentioned: poetic justice.
@@HickoryDickory86
Like using the Mace of Molag Bal to send people to the Soul Cairn? ;p
Come to think of it... if the mechanics behind soul trapping function in that manner, shouldn't all souls captured in black soulgems enter the Soul Cairn?
Yeah sure, you used the Mace to kill them and trap their souls, but you still supposedly offer it to the Ideal Masters upon using it for enchanting.
Maybe their souls only go to Coldharbour if you don't trap them?
@@Tengu125 I've thought about similar issues and wondered how it works.
I've settled on the idea that there is likely a lot of bureaucracy involved among the denizens of Oblivion, that they likely have worked out which soul goes where due to whatever circumstances were involved in the trapping of their souls.
Maybe they go to the Soul Cairn by default unless trapped via a special weapon dictating otherwise, or whether or not the caster has loyalties to this prince or that.
Lol. I must be evil then. I love soul trapping and I'm never happier than when I can finally get black soul gems
'mannimarco no longer a threat' is the funniest bit in this video
But you can' trap ulfrics soul and he will still appear in Sovngarde
@Gabrielt Augusto Not really a bug more so Todd just never thought anyone would do that, which he really should have. That or he was just lazy
Damn Dragon Breaks lol
Orrrr you could make him your dead thrall and have the most OP gamebreaking follower in history.
Thanks for making this video. It bugs me to no end that Necromancy is seen as heinous, yet everyone seems totally fine with Soul Trapping and Enchanting.
I love your channel. It's very calming to listen to while I'm playing any game. I even play skyrim while listening to this. I tend to get bored quickly after I've played a game so many times but while I'm listening to stuff like this it brings the excitement back. Please keep up the great work, thank you for doing this.
I was a bit disappointed after the dawnguard, where we saw that capturing the soul does not make it trapped in the stone, but teleports soul to the Soul Cairn and gives energy to the stone in return. There is a sertain power-fantasy thingie in capturing the soul of a strong enemy and keeping it.
The early bird catches the CZcams video😂🤣 awesome video I love them so much
Society: The most evil magical practices is Necromancy & Soul Trapping.
The Dragonborn with the soul tear shout: .......
Awesome video! Really deep!
I love this channel! found it just now, it is really cool man!
The most evil power is the Thu'um created by Nazeem.
"CLOUD - DIS - TRICT" !!!!!!
*Demoralize 10 points*
This!
This is an amazing video format.
Is the narrator IN the game? that vagueness given in the narration draws me in deeper and deeper as a viewer.
Like how the game makes us feel immersed, I got the same from this video.
A truly excellent video! Soul trapping and enchanting really do give you a sense of what they mean about the glamor of evil and evil being the easy road to power.
Question:
A filled back soul gem is required to cure a vampire. Is it worse to soul trap someone, or to curse someone live as a vampire? Or worse, die and be subject to coldharbor?
Me: “Most evil spell, huh? I wonder what it is.”
Me: * sees the soul cairn *
Me, who uses soul trap all the time: * surprised pikachu face *
I only use black soul gems on the most despicable people. Do you get to the cloud district often? Now you will, as my handy enchanted sword.
As for the cruelest spell, that would be max payne from Oblivion. 1pt fire 1pt frost 1pt lightning and 3pts healing for 5 minutes.
After corrupting Azura's Star, I returned to the shrine and soul trapped her own priestess!
Excellent video!!! Cheers
One trip to the Soul Cairn and role playing wise, my Dragonborn never used black soul gems again
Made an exception for Mercer though
well bandits deserve it aint they
That’s why that mage who cures vampirism in Morthal is seen as so shady...
Yeah. Gotta use a black soul gem to do so... I'm pretty sure he gets it from people who commit evil on a regular basis. Skyrim is packed with bandits.
It's interesting, every time I start a playthrough, i start off with a relatively good aligned character. It's always enchanting that causes them to turn in the end.
I always thought it was a missed opportunity not to use dragon souls somehow in top tier enchanting in the base game.
I could listen to that voice forever, another amazing vid.
Given the range of afterlives that are possible in the Elder Scrolls universe, I'm thinking spending an eternity powering some fool's Staff of Levitation doesn't really sound that bad.
most people end up just having their soul recycled anyway. the afterlife is only for the famous and powerful that the gods choose or someone that ends up soul trapped or gotten by a deadric prince or stuck in mundus as some kind of ghost.
I remember watching this video before dealing with the quest for Azura's Star. I really took your knowledge to heart and was planning to return the star to Azura. Along the way, I was traversing a cave full of bandits with Lydia. We got split up and by the time I found her, she was floating lifeless in the water. They had even indignified her in death by stripping her down to her undergarments. In a heated rage, I focused my intent on causing them as an equal a suffering. I drew my bow and one by one, they fell. But this was too peaceful. Had I enough black soul gems, I would have sent them all to the Soul Cairn without hesitation. Alas, this was not the case. So I stripped them of everything and used 'Revenant' to rip them briefly from the peace of their afterlife, awakening bare and defenseless, as they had left her. Then I dual-blasted them with flames till they surrendered themselves once more from this world, crumbling into ashes from which no one would remember their names.
I dragged Lydia's corpse to a nearby bed and positioned her as comfortably as possible. To her possession, I left her a set of steel armor and a steel sword, for I would not send her to Sovngarde the way those savages took her. It was here that I made the decision to pursue the artifact and turn it into the Black Star, so I may divert as many of those scum from tge Holiest of Halls.
I never cared much for Lydia's begrudging attitude in life, but she was a loyal housecarl and followed loyally. Rest in peace, Lydia.
Until we next meet under Sovngarde skies 😢
Hate to be "that" guy buuuut.... Mechanically followers can only die if you deal the final blow, and and also generic NPCs are incapable of looting bodies.
This video throws a very dark slant on my enchanter/blacksmith play through I did a while back.
Ugh that intro was so calming 😊
Great discussion topic Drew! As a christian, I find the whole concept of soul trapping abhorrent. However, we're talking about a game. I am an avid practitioner of all crafting skills, enchanting included. Enchanted jewelry along with brewing potions and poisons are my greatest source of wealth in game and my greatest source of power as well. I generally use white soul gems as I enchant all my weapons with fiery soul trap. I use black soul gems only for special items and for certain enemies. For example, I trap Harkon in a black soul gem and use it to craft a super powered dagger for Serana and consider it poetic justice. I never kill good folk. In fact, my characters are often philanthropists who adopt up to 6 children and send as many as 12 more children to school in Dragon's Keep. I also have a mod that allows me to give new clothing and 1,000 gold to the beggars in Skyrim. I only aim my bow at evil things so if they end up in my black gems so be it! How many mourners do you imagine there are for the souls of Mercer Frey, Malyn Varen, Harkon, Miraak, Movarth Piquine or Ancano? These are just off the top of my head. There are plenty more examples of black souls that I gladly trap and use to create my finest pieces reserved only for me and my most loyal followers. I carry white soul gems by the hundreds and pick up or purchase EVERY black soul gem I encounter. I have a very special affinity for soul trapping Thalmor and turning each arrogant one into a finely crafted master work of jewelry, armor or weaponry. However, I am no necromancer. I do not soul trap good people nor do I summon the unwilling. There are only three summoning spells that I ever use: Arniel's Shade, Ancient Assassin/Lucien Lachance and Durneviir. These are beings that have requested to be summoned. In fact, I summon Durneviir as often as is practical just to allow him time away from the soul cairn. If I join a side in the civil war I leave all my black soul gems at home. I wish no eternal harm on simple soldiers just doing their duty. And I would still like to get my hands on the necromancer that trapped poor St. Jiub! I go after the truly evil and twisted to fill my black gems. So, if this is illegal then I am a willing criminal and will continue to be thus regardless of what any others say or do! If this makes me a Black Wizard, then I am the Black Wizard of Righteous Vengence!
@Ultra Instinct Shaggy I never really understood all the animosity toward Nazeem. He is of inferior character IMHO and is unworthy of my time and attention. He's just an arrogant windbag. However, in the Amorous Adventures mod I do have sex with his wife. I kind of feel sorry for her as she's the one married to that arrogant windbag.
@Ultra Instinct Shaggy I go on gaming and Netflix binges for 36 to 48 hours straight sometimes just on Coca Cola and Iced Tea. Then I crash 12 or so hours and go right back at it. Right now I've been up since yesterday around noon so around 25 hours in today and still going. I'll crash out again sometime between the next midnight and noon tomorrow. I also hibernate for 18+ hours sometimes. I've kept very odd hours since I had to retire on disability.
I swear to the gods, I woke up, and I thought it said 'Call of Duty' in the thumbnail.
Must be my eyes decieving me.
When your like “ooo black soul gem”... goes and kills bandits since you don’t have to remember soul sizes.
I didn't realize it denied someone their afterlife. Great video
you know how there the fork weapon. i tried to soul trap miraak and trap his soul in a fork for revenge
Soo, the ultimate sentence for Nazeem for being himself would be enchanting his a$$ to the soul cairn. :D :D
What I did today tbh. I enchanted a Mace and called it "Nazeem's Bane"
But Nazeem's soul can't enter the Soul Cairn. His Soul goes to a alternate dimension called Cloud District.
Tamiel: I'm outlawing soul trapping
Main player: skidaddle skiddodle your soul is mine now take my noodle
In ESO, if you start in one of the expansions, you start the main quest by getting kidnapped by a cult and you get sacrificed and you are soul trapped. It’s pretty cool.