These Brembo Brakes are Mid

[@riccardosbarra]

Brembo’s rx aren’t monoblock, they are billet but made in two pieces. Stylema is stiffer but has less tolerances

[@adobomoto]

Ooof, yep.

[@deankruse4491]

Where do the Brembo M 50‘s lie in this world?

[@riccardosbarra]

@@deankruse4491 stylema is the evolution of m50, stylema is lighter, smaller and stiffer

[@Taste_Budz]

@@deankruse4491 m50 are high performance brakes for the streets, only worth upgrading if you track often

[@bchandy98]

@@deankruse4491he’d probably say they’re pieces of shit but they’re pretty damn good for most riders

[@Taste_Budz]

How you expecting $2k calipers on sub $20k bike😂

[@gtd360]

That's $2k retail for a single caliper. Not wholesale bulk price which a manufacturer would do. I don't know what that would be compared to the wholesale price of the ones that are on it.

[@headwinded1948]

Let me know where you're finding an RSV4 Factory for under 20k

[@litanyofhate9490]

Where can I get RSV4 below 20k brand-new?

[@nihvl]

KTM Duke 890R is equipped with stylema caliper a middleweight naked so compared to that a flagship offering like RSV4 RF & panigale V4S they should’ve came with proper monoblocs

[@Taste_Budz]

@@litanyofhate9490 *used market

[@KCbuffalo]

All this from someone who can ride the bike to 1/4th it’s potential

[@codygooch510]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@adriandelgado1618]

Exactly 💯

[@FishinWithAlex]

You say this but yet if I were spending $25,000 on a bike I would want it to have top of the line parts

[@KCbuffalo]

@@FishinWithAlex that bike isn’t 25k

[@zanechristiansen]

​@KCBuffalo even if it was 25k.. isn't that like... starting price these days... 25k sounds like a lot for us but that's not top of the line... I don't buy bikes so idk im just putting this out there

[@geoffatutahi8520]

Lets be real, even tho those stock calipers arent top end they work extremely well and unless you are a top racer I highly doubt most riders will get even remotely close to exceeding the operating capacity. That being said I love your work sir!

[@hiteshadhikari]

Problem is not the skill part, its ahat u r getting for what u r paying
U r paying top dollar for a low to med quality part

[@geoffatutahi8520]

@@hiteshadhikari so Brembos are low quality to you?.. they may be of a lower tier stacked against their own line up sure but still a quality product for a factory machine and are far beyond capable for their intended use. Why would you want "better quality" when this caliper is just as good?

[@hiteshadhikari]

@@geoffatutahi8520 the problem is when u pay 15-20 k or more for a bike and u get the starting quality brakes etc its not ok.
Cast alum rear set for a exp sports bike, when someone pays top dollar and gets components which are not top tier u worry about things.
No one is asking for top racing caliper for street but then they ask for a rop dollar when people buy them

[@geoffatutahi8520]

@@hiteshadhikari you pay for what they advertise, no use buying it then complaining about it. If you(not you personally, general) dont like it dont buy it. What they sell is a 200hp Superbike with more than adequate equipment and features FACTORY/STOCK spec and Ill reiterate MORE than adequate to handle/exceed normal operating conditions, thats why aftermarket exists to provide above factory spec gear

[@geoffatutahi8520]

@@hiteshadhikari These bikes(from any manufacturer) are desgined, built and sold with the gear/features to match.. When you say "starting quality" is abit disingenuous really considering the earlier mentioned, higher spec products especially in the sportbike world are normally designed for purposes exceeding factory specifications ie. Racing

[@los2133]

The cheapest Brembo mono blocks are the m4 and m50 (stylemas are the updated version) and they are still way better than most stock calipers on all makes of bike.

[@jerseyboycustoms]

While, yes, it IS true in the world of brembo they aren't their top tear brake sets, they are LEAGUES ahead of many other brakes on stock bikes and often get grabbed as an upgrade for other bikes lol.
However, I do know hard-core dudes for track bikes generally run an RC17/19 master and a better disc/pad combo, calipers usually get done last so they are still pretty solid.

[@KovertMecha]

I mean if you don’t want them brembos I’ll take em off your hands 😂

[@tronarat]

Ancient way of lining up rear wheel lol I saw a f1 pit crew do an alignment on all 4 wheels using string and weights sometimes simple is better

[@briangiven7399]

I would be fascinated to see that. Could you drop a link?

[@jerseyboycustoms]

@briangiven7399 it's actually the most used method on all race cars. They sell the kit for it too. Track side on the fly alignments, literally fastest and most efficient way to align the car. Can even throw it on the rack and be within a degree on everything

[@adobomoto]

Weird. My car has 2 wheels

[@Quattro_Joe]

@@adobomoto great reply. Just shows you have no comeback to a valid argument.

[@gunaseger]

Why you need such a high performance calipers when you're just a street rossi 😝

[@adobomoto]

So i can slide the front tires

[@shakenbake2k479]

​@@adobomoto well. That costs money, you'd be making more money not whining to a camera and working than from youtube royalties.

[@c.02.cristopershandra73]

​@@adobomoto lol 🤣 that caught me off guard

[@aidenp7232]

@@shakenbake2k479 you’d be suprised my dudes making more than your job off this shit

[@iamthemobey]

@@aidenp7232 not with 50k subs he's not

[@HyenaOnTheRoad]

When you want to pay 10k more for that bike... Then you'll get that custom trackbike most folks will never reach the limits of.

[@robw7205]

This is the real punchline.

[@ceremyjlarkson9475]

My brother in Christ I'm certain the engineers looked over it and made that choice. The bikes aren't cost cut in a vacuum, they go with what gets the job done to their requirements. Relax.

[@orionmobile6545]

My dude complain about brembo brakes. Here am I with my Chinese brake caliper doing good for 2 years

[@adobomoto]

😂😂 they’re fine

[@Silasssssssss]

If they didn't do this your expensive motorcycle would be unaffordable and no one would buy it lmao

[@boomblab23]

Whenever i see an aprilia bike owner:
Probably rides 5k miles a year.
Me

[@adobomoto]

That’s a ton of track days. More like 1k mile

[@elitethehawkk1816]

That $700 difference in brakes is gonna add an 3k on the selling price tho

[@paulhope3401]

Yep....and price the bike out of its natural group of competitors. Aprox 5% better braking performance for a street bike.... but now $2-3k higher bike price.
Good job he's not responsible for new bike specs for a manufacturer.. he'd price them out of the market.

[@nihvl]

$700 difference is for us consumers for manufactures the price difference between those two models are much smaller

[@B3NC0N]

When you started talking about $3000 brake calipers it really had me rethinking this whole bike life. But FUCK THAT im getting a bike anyways.

[@foothillfoo5761]

Fuck it!Dude get 2!!!

[@KafkaesqueRider]

Well, Brembo GP caliper line are intended for Track use, GP4-MS is practically what they use at MotoGP haha, what would you want a track oriented calipers on a Street bike? xD

[@BASESKIZL]

I feel the same way about car stereo speakers. They use paper cones for speakers that cost pennies on the dollar then they throw a few more pennies in there by adding glue and foam you’re lucky if you ever get more than 50 watts out of that entire system. Overtime it degrades and your stereo start sounding like shit after about a year then you gotta go out and spend $4000 to get a real thing.

[@MBAV8R]

Cast parts are stronger than billet. It has to do with the grain structure of the metal.

[@adr2567]

How to know he’s an American without having to tell anyone 😂

[@russhellmy]

Look at the ancient way they put the power to the ground, Rubber tyres Aggghh ! ! !
Btw your Kimchee was my favourite character on Kim Convenience.

[@lifeonanisland3125]

The rear sets are cast so they can break off while the bike is sliding.

[@geucamole]

Nissin brakes on S1KRR are amazing 👌 😅

[@themmgamer1227]

They're not the cheapest components, they're just not top end, it's a road bike not a race bike, if you want a racing fit out you can get them on some bikes but they're more expensive and usually incredibly reserved... Or you can just build your own however you want to...

[@alexflosho]

I like how it's just a screw and nut, less to go wrong

[@roytravis3765]

It's how most bikes do aliment he's clearly never done much more than a service on a bike

[@alexflosho]

​@@roytravis3765 yes never even touched a motorcycle in my life so I wouldn't know

[@freerideshuttle]

You should write Aprilia an open letter and talk to them.

[@Bredaxe]

The way these companies cheap out and ask for premium prices really gets me. Rubber brake lines, rock bottom components.....$18k. lol

[@SumanRoy.official]

If it works, it's good no need to go for a higher price item that will do the same job 🙂

[@sauravbhegde]

I need an answer, what's the new ways to align wheels, I have a snail washer that adjust wheel. So what is the new thing that is more accurate?

[@TheWallsocket]

There is no “new way”, he’s just a moron

[@mrungrateful2086]

The ancient way of “aligning “ your who is actually to adjust your chain and it’s easy asf

[@PeteZa92]

Love your shorts dude! Charismatic, informational, and just very fluent flow. Looking forward to your future vids

[@wolfydan121]

We'll go start building them and see if you can do the same price point with better quality

[@ToAstYNaChO]

You realize stylemas are the highest end brake caliper for production motorcycles, right? If you think stylemas are poor quality, you've clearly never ridden some cheap bikes.

[@adobomoto]

The key words you used are “for production motorcycles” - i said they’re mid tier brembos. My statement is a fact, yours is an opinion. The FACT is they are mid tier - period

[@jords844]

Brakes are a funny conversation/argument. My take is that the only reason they should be upgraded/changed is if they’re worn out or getting a lot of brake fade for how you’re riding. Even still a lot of brake adjustments can be made with just a different kind of pads too. Brake aggressiveness, responsiveness and even heat management can be drastically improved with the right high quality pads. That being said a lot of adjustment/feel can be made with a different master cylinder, as cool as a new $3,000 Brembo brake set is, a larger/smaller master cylinder can make a bigger difference in performance and not your pocket. That being said I agree with this video and do what you want that’s just my take

[@metalavenger23]

What’s the performance difference between the three calipers? If it’s the same then it doesn’t matter cheaper is better.

[@kugangles9860]

If your looking to get top of the line components on a specific superbike you're well into the 40-50k price range.

[@Horatiification]

Now, this should be the content for bike reviews! Not one of the major bike channels touched on this topic! They just read off a list of specs, ride a few times and get some b-roll - then call it a day.
There's a market for this type of content I swear.

[@AlienPizza38]

Guy jus exposed Aprilla 😂

[@bryantb3391]

I bet in function they work the same. amount of pistons and the heat they can dissipate to reduce brake fade are probably the same. having drilled and slotted rotors will help with heat also.

[@johndaroza2987]

Well I changed the Handel bars the rear set's the ECU the exhaust too. The breaks work well so steel braided brake lines went in. My 2016 Aprilla RSV4RF WAS FIRE !

[@grey5135]

Probably because 99% of people who buy these bikes will never even be capable of pushing the bike to its limit so no point to put the very best parts on it and make it even more expensive for breaks 99%.will never need for road riding. It makes sense from a business standpoint

[@matthewshields]

Wow, even luxury companies cut costs, who would have known?

[@m73m95]

Just because something is inexpensive or "not top of the line" doesn't mean it doesn't do what it was designed to do, do that thing well, and exceed the requirements of what's needed for it's application. Has one of your pegs broken? Brakes ever failed or faded? Manufacturers aren't interested in keeping up with the Joneses. They engineer a product to perform to a certain level, and source components accordingly. If you're more interested in being able to brag to your friends about having top of the line foot pegs, rather than having a perfectly functional for your purposes bike, then open your wallet and buy whatever you want.

[@WFO.Ian.30]

Love my oem rearsets. Tight tolerances on the zukis. But I’ve never had and actual nice set of lightechs😊l or something

[@stubstunner]

I think my 2007 Victory has these too. They’re definitely cast aluminum.

[@MugenKami99]

And here I'm satisfied with nissin brakes

[@brodyjames8092]

Thank you for telling the truth about bike parts, just because your bike is the flagship model doesn’t mean all the parts of it are also.

[@Minimotoelitist]

Huge brakes are useless when ABS kicks on long before you’re actually gonna lock em up

[@Jeff4559]

Why complain about it when they still exceed the operating capabilities of 90% of street riders..🤦‍♂️😂😂

[@KDiGee]

I mean most people couldn't ride hard enough to outright need most upgrades anyway. Especially when it comes to brake calipers.

[@mitchellandrew3318]

The rear wheel adjustments flat out work.
You don't really have many other options besides turning the design to pull over push.
If it works why change it?

[@adam346]

$25k is not top shelf. It's the top-shelf of what they can mass manufacture and still (theoretically) make money on. Top-shelf is more like $40-100k and things like ARCH motorcycles where you get into bespoke and custom built... mass-manufacture is exactly that, MASS MANUFACTURING.

[@Firstsk8productions]

Great info! Can’t wait to see a vid on track!

[@sanjaycool6915]

Every bike i saw at the eicma display this year had brembo(most)

[@Simple5.0]

They gotta keep the prices low enough for regular people to buy them somehow. How many people would you still buy that bike if it was $39,000 or more?

[@gagebenson7898]

For 900$ that sh*t better be mint, I could replace hubs ball joints brakes rotors and calipers for 900$ on a car

[@mikea5923]

How much did you want the new bike to cost? If the bikes had top of the line everything you’d just complain about the sticker price.

[@bustabeans7917]

As long as it says Brembo im happy. Nobody knows and they stop my arse

[@plkracer]

Well, it is a 20k bike and not a 100k bike....

[@thurston383]

I mean, would you pay thousands extra for the exact same thing? Would those breaks not lock up the wheels if you wanted it too?

[@Petter_fortnite_griffin]

Him:“Even know it’s one piece”
Me:the one piece is real!

[@x1tekja]

If you can't ride past the limitations of a $900 caliper then the $3000 calipers become nothing but a superficial flex.

[@Bobby-lh2sx]

Stop crying dude, they cant put 3k in front calipers for something worth 25k.

[@dbbd9890]

Did you know a brake caliper piston housing doesn't need to be made from a $3000 cnc part.

[@headwinded1948]

To be fair, nothing on one of these bikes is top shelf, including the suspension on this model. It's all laughably overkill for street and typical track day use though.

[@KK-jd7ub]

Just because the calipers are 3 times more expensive doesn't mean it's 3 times better. The stock is probably just as good unless you do professional racing

[@b-randgeez7708]

So all of those upgrades and development puts a great bike easily over 30,000. Why does t the bike come with fully set up with race suspension?

[@rickeco4tango33]

Criticizing the rear sets while wearing flip-flops😂

[@berserkingbear3393]

your brakes cost the same as my entire truck

[@gerardofiano4866]

Do you max out these cheap brakes?

[@GMbusa1]

What’s wrong with the rear axle adjustment? It works.

[@adobomoto]

Nothing. It’s just a YT short lol

[@Yophillips3272]

As soon as he said $900 I faded out...

[@austinhurst467]

I love your content

[@404-Error-Not-Found]

Whether or not something is billit or cast should not matter at all... You're just paying more for the unimportant surfaces to be machined.
Certainly there are other aspects and differences that matter way more.

[@leggey_clappers1521]

Imagine paying a potential ninja 400 krt in brakes

[@151nate8]

Lmao and I'm sure you only use about 50% of what those break's are capable of.

[@kirkdunn1379]

Stylemas arent mid, they are top of the line for production bikes, Gp4X are race spec calipers....
You wont find anything higher than Stylemas, M50 is most common "high end" Brembo for production bikes
Manufacturers have "price points" for every piece of a bike...they will always error on the side of cost.....car, truck, bike, boat its same across the board
Tack on 60% for every upgrade and Aprilla will be happy to sell you that same bike upgraded for 60% more
Basic rules of production and manufacturing

[@matteofantoni1996]

Can't understand if this is plain bait or if it's an honest opinion
In the second case, saying that the Brembo Stylema is a "mid" caliper is absolute nonsense
Yes, there are better performing calipers, but they are not meant for the road, and we are talking about a road legal bike
And even so, better performing does not equal better on the road, like with every other modifications regarding brakes (pads, disks), tires, suspensions ecc.
There comes a point where the more you spend on performance oriented modification, the more useless a bike becomes for the road, especially for a normally skilled rider
What's the point of having super aggressive biting pads when you need to slow down in traffic? Or when you have slick tires so soft that you can't even warm them properly before usage?

[@bobbybreland2169]

“Complains in first world”

[@Aidan-hl7fc]

Beefing with a bike you bought 🤣 it's one of the best bikes atm

[@J-Healy]

Can anyone explain why the billet brakes are double the price of the cast ones? Is it stopping power/hest dissipation thag improves?

[@JoseLgamer05]

The standard brakes on that thing cost more than the piece of glass that I am using to type this, (a mind range android phone) and slightly less than my computer cost new.

[@Deadshilz]

Thats the Italians for ya, even their super are built cheap and dont get me started on Italian electric's in these things.

[@t0k4m4k7]

They are the same that are mounted on the panigale v4 dude... There's not much above that and i think brembo even refuses to sell certain models to be mounted as stock parts.

[@zokieboi]

"ancient way of"- bro what? It's bad because it's ancient? It's rigid, it's lightweight and it fucking works? You wouldn't put $1550 calipers on a mass produced bike, would you?

[@indo252]

u didn’t really feel the differences unless it’s going to racetrack

[@hubertkam7647]

I wonder how expensive are the brembos on my 125cc

[@nick4506]

well top of the line bikes cost less then camerys so yea they aren't gonna be completely blinged out.

[@user-te5pw8pn5x]

ok my gsxr got brembo too😂😂😂

[@jonnycrash7389]

Arh yes the ancient way of putting bikes together using nuts and bolts

[@SDrtheone]

Ew you called Aprilia a flagship super bike 😂

[@backyardhooper06]

Running out of things to complain about huh. Those stock brakes are plenty strong enough for anything you'll be doing on the street or track days

[@adobomoto]

It’s about unsprung weight, not strength. They’re actually pretty good.

[@ricecakeFTW]

Complaining about how "cheap" parts on your Aprilia are when you cant even ride a Honda Navi to it's limit. Lol 😂

[@DUDETALK69]

I use m4 calipers on my r1 and they feel better than my rsv4 track bike breaks

[@flinch9748]

A set of monoblocks with proper brakepads and a decent pump will outperform almost any stock setup (atleast on my ZX10-R and Yam R1)

[@ClassicRider]

For Super Bikes I can only MotoSim - otherwise for reality, I enjoy my CB570 Roadster

[@skie6282]

My friend got one of those aprillas and i said its nice but the one thing i hate was the footpegs looked cheap af, i didnt know how to describe it other then cheap, but yeah they were just cats aluminum it looked like sht and didnt fit the bike. He said whatever they are some of the best

[@Jonslondon]

Hey if Im paying all that money, dont worry if Im making use of the bikes potential or not.

[@JoryPeters]

It don't have to be expensive... if it works fine...

[@MyZxcvb12]

Yes like the cheap plastic that cost penny's and we get ripped off cause we love bikes