The Optimal Pokemon Play Order
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I think you should play black and white 2 after BW because it demonstrates how a game can successfully create a sequel and see how things change in the world.
I would argue the johto games are direct sequels to the kanto games and demonstrate what BW2 does on a larger scale.
but unova is a new region and its sequel is good too@@ItzJhon
@@ItzJhonare you kidding
B2W2 have a larger post game than even hgss, you have the battle tree, the pwt, the ACTUAL post game story (no a second half baked region doesn't really count as a full second region), and all this on top of the superior main game?
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Not just this but you actually see what real characters were up to during the time skip, which Kanto doesn't have
The second region does more to hurt what could've been a perfect region than it ever did to help it
Real gen 5 fans prefer BW over B2W2.
Wildly triggered when he said to skip B2W2
But this is a fun video good job!
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Tbh, USUM is the real Alola experience, because the game is about the Alola's backstory, the origins of totems, z-moves, trials, the aftermath of this backstory, and everyone trying to deal with it.
It also just has much more going for it than Sun and Moon and is otherwise not so different.
(Gonna repost it here as well just in case ya dont see the previous post)
(To be fair tho, You are right that they arent that much different and I dont think there would be any real harm if you played USUM instead)
Honestly a really good question. I wanted to talk about that!
I bounced around putting US/UM over SU/MO but decided with the latter for one reason in particular.
While USUM is objectively better because of things like Ultra Necrozma and Ultra Warp Ride,
the way it disrupts the story makes me side with SU/MO as the more faithful Alola experience.
90% of the plot in USUM is the exact same but then removes the lusamine finale (which the plot is intended to build toward) and replaces it with an out of place (albeit better) Necrozma finale. (Basically the same reason I chose B/W over B2W2 but on a smaller scale).
Also I think the ultra necrozma stuff fits better if you played through SU/MO because you would have context to what is being replaced.
TL;DR USUM's story feels like a "true ending" while SU/MO's feels more like the normal intended route. It doesn't make sense to play the true ending before the normal one.
Here is the thing:
For the Story I would recommend S/M. Then some scenes in USUM doesn't add up while they're only improtant for S/M and they didn't cut it or altered it to fit in the story for USUM.
For the Gaming-Experience I would recommend USUM. They added many features in this game like Mantax-Surfing and because of the Sidequests, USUM became (in my opinion) one of the liveliest pokemon games ever.
I personally hated it when they only had gen 5 pokemon in black and white but now I know the mons I love it. But I did think some gen 5 mons were strange
Some gen 5 mons looked like they were just there to fill a niche that other pokemon would've filled if they were in the region. It leads to a lot of forgettable and redundant pokemon.
That said, when the designs were good they were good. Just wish they really opened the floodgates to old pokemon in the post game.
@@AGTxASSASSIN To be fair (after a quick google search) almost no route after the Elite 4 has more than 1-2 Unova Pokémon, being almost exclusively gen 1-4 mons, yes they could have had more, but it isn't exactly easy to chuck 400-ish Pokémon into less than 20 locations
@@AGTxASSASSINbetter than shoving Geodude and Zubat into every region with no alternative.
@@josephbulkin9222 i mean they just made two pokemon that were "totally not zubat" and "totally not geodude".
I like the sentiment of having all new pokemon. But in execution they just copied gen 1's homework and now instead of zubat we get knock-off zubat. They should've gone a more original direction with a lot of the designs rather than just try to fill the exact same niches that already existed.
@@AGTxASSASSIN It' just feels weird to get into a new region only to be told there are barely any new pokemon to choose from, and you have to choose the old ones to have a decent team.
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Facts
Imagine legends arceus being your first Pokémon game. It warps the entire experience and everything feels way too outdated after that lol
I cant imagine how lost someone would feel going from legends arceus to any other mainline game. Its the reason I really wanted to keep the optimal order also in release order.
For the light one my order would be fire red, leaf green, platinum, omega Ruby, alpha sapphire, Ultra Sun, Ultra Moon and finally Scarlet and Violet
I agree with everything except the black and white discrepancy. There is no reason to play BW when BW2 exists. I think you're misrembering how many changes BW2 made.
I agree bw2 is way better, but i think the point he makes in the video is that the original bw are the more "gen 5" experience. If you want someone to experience the whole series i guess you would want them to experience gen 5 as originally envisioned rather than bw2 which watered that down a bit.
Yeah 2 series was good but the original had a better story and that og 5th gen experience. 2 did add alot but there was already a good amount of content on the first games.
So many Unova Pokemon arent even available in BW2 until after the Pokemon League(Seismitoad, Durant)
Bw 2 makes you do the stupid pokestar studio in order to progress
@@trapez77 true but that doesn’t take that long and isn’t too intruding it’s fairly quick. I like at least for black 2 how they have that trainer tower post game it’s good for leveling. Almost as good as firered and leafgreen but those two probably have the best way of grinding since it doesn’t scale at high levels like black and white do
Order:
FireRed, LeafGreen (2004)
Emerald (2004)
Platinum (2007)
HeartGold, SoulSilver (2008)
Black, White (2010)
X, Y (2013)
Sun, Moon (2016)
Sword, Shield (2019)
Scarlet, Violet (2023?)
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I think the optimal play order if we had to do just four games would be 1.Emerald You get the flavor of the first three generations, the best Pokémon variety along with being the best game boy era game. While fire red does cover the first generation I think that putting nostalgia aside fire red is a much weaker product and a lot harder for new players too traverse then emerald. And the rest of the Gameboy era games feel really dated. 2. Black two and white two this covers the DS era It’s the most streamlined and best Pokémon variety version of the DS games. A pretty decent bump up in graphics. Well, you can make an argument for platinum.I just think the incredible Pokédex from GEN five really enhances these games over the rest of the DS era. And I think that HG and SS are incredibly slow long games with a weird level curves with fairly limited Pokédex. And I think it’s gonna be jarring jumping from GEN three to GEN five if you’ve picked black-and-white one because the Pokédex are going to be so different to wear black to white to have a good mix of new Pokémon to returning ones. 3. Ultra games, these are arguably the hardest games in the franchise and they’re very different from the rest. They have a large Pokédex and a great showcase of boss fights in Pokémon and just a straight upgrade of their original games. It is the best iteration of the team EXP on the 3DS. As well as these games probably have the best showcase of the new fairy type of all the 3DS games as well. You even get that mega evolution aspect from GEN six as well.And lastly, 4.Scarlet and Violet, these also have a very different feel from the rest of the games and they’re the most modern ones too. you get that open world feel similar to generation one but you get to experience the openness with all the roaming Pokémon like with sword and legends Areceus.
Well, it sucks having to leave out generations 1246 and 8. I think doing 3579s best representatives shows a big enough jump between generations to where you’re really gonna feel the quality of life improvements. Starting in generation three you have abilities held items nature, the modern version of EVI and ivs and much better move pools so it’s a good starting point to where you have a lot of modern mechanics at the very beginning of your first experience. Then Going from GEN 3 to 5 you see the physical special split really come into play as well as unlimited use TM’s drastic increase in the amount of Pokémon as well as the seasonal changes with weather and such. Then jumping from GEN 5 to 7 you get the 3-D graphics as well as the new fairy type mega evolutions and totem Pokémon, and Z moves and Universal EXP, and the lack of HM Pokémon needed and even your moves being told if they’re super effective or not. I think this is one of the biggest jumps between any set of games, all these quality of life improvements make the games a lot more convenient. And lastly, going from G7 to GEN nine the actual physical gameplay a lot different the traversal the tera type feature. Raid battling. Being on Nintendo switch being upgrading graphics over the 3DS. A lot more accessibility to Pokémon moves, relearning them changing them around no needing of heart scales or move learner. a lot of TMs are available at the start of the game so bad Pokémon with poor level up move sets not really be as much of a problem to use. Not to mention the colossal amount of par variety you get in these games. On top of all the Pokémon in the DLCs.
For someone brand new to Pokémon, they’re very first experience and they wanted to play all games the order I would recommend would be.
1.Let’s go games. These are very simple Pokémon games and would ease you into the formula. Not to mention that it’s generation one remake. if you want more traditional experience, pick fire, red or leaf green, but that’s completely optional.
2. Emerald. This would be your first experience in a real mainline Pokémon game. And that way you’re not just going straight from Kanto to Joto it’ll make playing HG and Ss more memorable after playing a change of pace between the games. Not to mention playing Emerald third would be kind of weird jumping from the DS back to the gameboy.
3.HgSS This is your first introduction to a bunch of the new modern feeling mechanics and you get the nostalgia of going back to Kanto at the end of these games I think playing it after emerald instead of before makes emerald feel a lot better. On top of making visiting kanto again more special.
4. Platinum this is the definitive version of these games and the remakes on the switch are not good. One of the best Pokémon games easily, and it fixes a lot of the problems with diamond and pearl.
5. Black and white one This will be very different experience from the rest of the games you’ve played with the whole new unique Pokédex.
6. Pokémon x and y I know it’s a weird putting these before black two and white too, but I think playing two games in a row that are very similar is going to be kind of weird. I think mixing in x and y show you how bad this generation of games is and how good black and white two is.
7. B2W2 going back to experience the second half of Unova again will show how good of a sequel this game is. Not to mention after playing x and y it’ll make you appreciate this game more for how good it really was.
8. The ultra games. I think you can skip over the first versions. There’s a few different totem fights, and the elite four is different. Basically everything else is an upgrade. Not to mention watching the cut scenes multiple times if you had to play the originals and then the ultras would be very tedious.
10. Sword and shield this is much more traditional than the ultra games. This is arguably the most replayable Pokémon game there’s a huge variety of Pokémon in the wild area and the DLC’s at a bunch more that you can use on a play through.
11.Legends Arceus. This is the only non-main game. I’m gonna recommend on my list. It gets you familiar with the whole riding mechanic, and the Pokémon being in the overworld even more than sword and shield. As much as I wasn’t that much a fan of these games it’s hard not to recommend them because it’s a great change of pace.
12. Scarlet and Violet would be the games I would play last. I mean they’re the most recent game so it’s hard to put them anywhere else but here. You either end with these games or you start with them, but this is not a great game to introduce you to the Pokémon formula since it’s so different from the rest.
Sorry for bad grammar I’m on my phone so it’s hard to proofread very well .
Very interesting and thorough list! :o
I think this is a great way to play if backtracking isn't an issue.
I do like the inclusion of legends arceus quite a bit. I tried to fit it in mine but its just so different from the rest.
I'd still consider Arceus mainline. I think since it's 1. Developed by Game Freak, and 2. Introduces new Pokemon, it kinda has to.
Agree heavily with this order though!
I just got back into playing these games but already finished heartgold. I’m gonna play platinum next and then BW after but don’t know if I should just play BW2 instead. Is it worth playing them both? Is it worth playing both versions of each generation in general?
Great question!
While bw2 and bw are very similar, playing bw2 without bw is gonna make a lot of the plot (especially the team plasma stuff) feel weak. Its definitely an option, but I wouldn't recommend it.
However, in your case,
I would only play BW2 if you reallllllllllly enjoyed black and white. Otherwise, its going to feel like your playing the same game again with some minor tweaks.
While Black and white 2 are amazing games, I think its more worth your while to experience a whole new gen than to do another lap around unova.
BW2 is a great game to come back to once you've experienced what each gen has to offer.
Hope that helps : D
legends arceus definitely replaces the scarlet and violet pick
Bit strange including legends arceus in this exercise though, it isn't exactly a core game.
@@AGTxASSASSIN remakes aren't "core" games either, neither are 3rd versions or sequels, all of them can still do the best job in showcasing an era, generation, Pokedex and region of pokemon
@@greenhillnerdnew8148 remakes are just that - "remakes" of past games. They play exactly the same with some extra features and nicer visuals.
Legends arceus has completely different gameplay to the main series. It isn't an insult, legends is great, but it doesn't really represent the series.
@@AGTxASSASSIN for the purposes of this video, remakes ARENT just past games, their updated mechanics,rosters, design and visual sensibilities tell the stories of both the generation they are reworking, and the generation they were made in, the same way legends would.
I'm not contesting that legends Arceus is more separated from diamond and pearl than platinum or even bdsp, it obviously is.
I'm making the case that said distance isnt a relevant factor for the purposes of this video, the same way it wasn't for the third versions and remakes.
@@greenhillnerdnew8148 I would argue that Legends Arceus doesn't tell the tale of either the gen it references or the gen it was made in. The main game in Legends' generation plays nothing like legends, and while legends obviously draws its theming and references from gen 4, it is hardly a retelling of gen 4.
Legends Arceus is a separate entity that draws from diamond and pearl, not replaces it.
I would say for this video, remakes ARE nicer versions of the original in the optimal play order. Maybe you can make that argument for the 'lite' version, but even then legends arceus certainly wouldn't do a good job of showcasing either gen as it plays nothing like either and only resembles one of them.
I don't know if this was intentional or not, but another cool thing about your optimal play order is that is that it follows the in-universe chronology. Hoenn's story happens at the same time as Kanto's, Sinnoh's story happens at the same time as Johto's, and then the chronology of Gens 5 and beyond is the same as the release order (except that B2W2 and XY happen at the same time).
theoretically you could swap HGSS and platinum just so that dialogue about the red gyarados makes a lil more sense xD
Follow-up video discussing how to transfer Pokemon from previously played games within the optimum order! 🙌 🔥 💯
Your just reminded me I forgot to include one of the big reasons behind both orders. 😅
I was supposed to mention that playing these games in this order,
lets you transfer them as you progress through em, all the way to pokemon home.
This is a fun video. Thanks for sharing! This could help get new people to experience the games.
Thank ya ^_^
I think this was very well well thought out. The Lite version is more how I’m going through with my bf for his time but swapping “Pokémon: Let’s Go, Pikachu!” for FRLG because he’s not much of a gamer and Pokémon Go was is first experience with the franchise.
pretty good swap tbh : D
Lets go is super beginner friendly and waaaay more available than FRLG.
I honestly don't think every generation needs representation. If anything, I would skip straight to HG/SS first and taste the games that way, especially if you've never played Pokémon before.. From there, and once you're familiar with the mechanics, I would try out Black and White to see how far the 2D games could go. I agree that they're a standalone experience, but they're also huge games with some of the best designs and mechanics.
Then I would skip to gen 9. See what the games are currently like and decide if 3D is what you're into as a new player. Remember, by now, you've played 3 full games of the same type minimum, 6 if you did both versions. It would get tiring, and by the time you've finished SV, probably quite frustrating as well. But there is a good remedy for that. B2&W2 are the best sequels that the series has ever had. Every bit as a good B&W, but remixed with some earlier gens and new puzzles to keep it fresh. It also had that neat animated trailer to go with it, with Rosa and her Serperior. Everybody loves Rosa and Hilda, and the games are so much fun!
i agree not every gen needs representation, but i think the "lite" version he presented in the video strikes the best balance for this. including ORAS gives you a taste of both gen 3 (which invented a lot of series staples) and gen 6 (which gave mega evolution and was generally a big moment for the series being the first 3d games) in one game.
BW had some of the best designs? Have you seen Klink, Vanillish, Trubbish, Heatmor, Druddigon, Alomomola, Tynamo, Palpitoad, or any of the starters, just to name a few? Generation 5 had by far the worst designs of every pokemon game (SWSH is barely behind tho), and the only thing BW have going for them is the story, which I also think is pretty stale. I personally don't know anybody who is playing a pokemon game for the story. BW is also incredibly linear and the backtracking is awful. Indisputably one of the worst games in the series.
Another absolute BANGER
I’m trying to match the anime with remakes should I got from HGSS to Omega Ruby/ Alpha sapphire
FrLg -> HGSS -> ORAS works perfectly fine : D if you wanna keep up with the anime progression, it might become janky when you have to back track to gen 5
I have all the pokemon games except legends arceus. I used to have it but got bored of it and gave it to my cousin for his birthday. Anyways I’m probably gonna replay all the games in this order as I’m due to do fresh runs of all the regions
You should nuzlocke em this time around >:)
What’s the name of the song playing in the first 00:00-00:30 secondsish? I can’t remember the name!
Route 225 (Daytime) - Pokémon Diamond & Pearl
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Before watching, my order is just Firered/Leafgreen (gen 1) then R/S/E (gen 3 happening at same time), then Gen 4 - HG/SS (Gen 2) then DPPt (gen 4 happening at same time as gen 2), then Gen 5.
That has gen 1-5 in Chronological order.
Then XY onwards just do whatever, they kinda threw out any sort of sequential story telling
As an avid Gen 5 fan, the take on Gen 5 is enough to earn my like. As much of a masterpiece BW2 are, with all their great additions - auto-repel resetting, Join Avenue, Pokéstar Studios, etc. - it isn't quite Unova as intended. Yes you don't get to play your favourite Pokémon for the story (for 95% of people), but it was a nice change to not see Zubat, Geodude, Pikachu and a ton of other mons you see in every game since their introduction
Basically got it spot on! :o.
Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that shares the sentiment that Black and White are the REAL Unova experience : D
Fire Red/Leaf Green, Emerald, Platinum, HG/SS, B&W, B&W2, X&Y (debatable), Sun/Moon, US/UM, Legends Arceus, & if u reallllly need more Pokemon in ur life then go back & play Yellow, skip the rest of the switch games unless u want to play them all. I like the idea of this list but I just don’t c how Emerald & Platinum r less essential than Sword/Shield & Scarlet/Violet
the true optimal play order is just playing crystal
🤝 It was my first game for a reason
This video would have been really usefull a year ago, at the time I never played a Pokémon game, so not knowing anything i started with the First Pokémon game over, i choose Pokémon Red.
cant go wrong with the starting at the very beginning : D
I’d say play HGSS before Platinum because platinum starts with the red Gyarados report on TV making it a nice callback. Also I’d add in B2W2 and UsUm instead of SuMo.
all valid changes!
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Its comments like these I always dreamt of getting. Thank you friendo! :D
@@ItzJhon keep going!!!
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This is actually a great order to play the original games and also useful for Pokemon MMOs like PokeMMO in terms of casual playing the storylines.
Funny you mention PokeMMO.
Ive been playing since 2012 and made one of the first trailers for it 😤
@@ItzJhonyou made the first trailers?? That's cool because your trailers pretty much convinced me to play Pokemmo
I would definitely not skip black and white 2. Yeah the story isn't as in depth as the first. But it's just the ultimate upgrade in every other aspect. The amount of mons you have access to. The team building. The exploration and expansion of the unova region is just to good.
I'm currently on a playthrough now of white 2 and it's the most fun I've had in a long time with Pokemon
BW2 is without a doubt better than base BW. The reason why it didnt make it in is because I wanted the list to be as concise as possible and BW2 are just too similar to base BW(even with all the improvements) to justify playing through both of em.
Screw this I started with Red to not get spoiled with FireRed.
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Definitely get rid of Sun & Moon & Add Ultra Sun & Ultra moon. They are way more completed & more updated as it’s the same game with a basically a free DLC.
This dude just straight up ditched the best pokémon game 💀
Whatcha mean? I got HGSS and emerald on there :)
@@ItzJhon Actually, in my heart, Emerald is the best pokémon game, but technically I think B2W2 is the best one (HGSS is top 3)
My personal order:
1) Firered/Leafgreen or Red/Blue Color romhack with 2 gen sprites
2) Gold/Silver/Crystal or Polished Crystal/Crystal Clear Romhacks
3) Emerald or ORAS
4) Hearthgold/Soulsilver or Sacret Gold/StormSilver romhacks
5)Platinum or Renegade Platinum romhack
6) Black/White or Blaze Black/Volt White romhacks
7) Black/White 2 or Blaze Black/Volt White 2 romhacks
8) Unbound romhack
9) Good gen 2 romhacks (Prism, Orange) and good gen 3 romhacks (∞)
The addition of some romhacks definitely spices things up 👀👀 whats ur fave one?
Emerald, Crystal, HGSS, Pt, BW, B2W2, ORAS. End it there because nothing else compares. Peak story was Gen V
Why crystal? Seems redundant before hgss. And why after emerald and not before?
I like the gen 3 sandwich though with oras at the end.
Give Sun and Moon its due, that story was top tier as well. Gen 7 is the only one I would put on the same tier as Gen 5
@@drm726 i could not have a more opposite opinion than that one
That’s the order I played them in growing up minus crystal lol
@@AGTxASSASSIN mad cuz bad
Black and white 2 were legit one the best games. A blunder to skip them
More or less agree with everything in this video. Though personally I like the experience have playing each gen’s original games and slowly gaining those quality of life features.
The best way to play tbh
I just finished Pokemon red (the og) on my Phone (emolatur). And I was thinking what to play next thank you bro🗣
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I’ve played black and white as well as black and white 2 and tbh black and white 2 were the way more fun unova experience so I would recommend playing it right after black or white
Plus there’s also just way more to do and access so that’s already more of a reason to play it
I recommend bw2 instead of bw. Better game, better experience. Playing both would be pretty long and redundant tbh.
Cool stuff
I think you should do 1. FireRed. 2. HeartGold. 3. Emerald. 4. Platinum. 5. Black&White 1 and 2. 6. X&Y 7. Ultra sun&moon. 8. Sword and shield. 9. *shudders* scarlet&violet.
I completely agree with your first list besides the fact that I would add BW2.
First 2 gens dont get enough credit
Gen 2 especially. Those games have such a vibe
Because the remakes are regarded as direct upgrades to the originals to most
Reilly spotted 😌
i started with B then W2 then FR then US then Sword then violet now legends, next is gold when i change the cartrage battery
Whats ur fave so far?
@@ItzJhon got to be FR
3:56 Except for me, who got destroyed by her Togekiss the first time.
For me it was milotic xD
B2w2 are a must after playing bw, literally a direct sequel...
The Johto games are more of a sequel to the kanto games than black2/white2 are to black and white
platinum needs to be in the top 5.
Great list but maybe would skip Black and White and go right to Black 2 and White 2 instead and same with Sun and Moon going to Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. I would also add Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire as I really love those games. I would definitely skip Sword and Shield completely and finish with Scarlet and Violet.
I personally LOVED that you skipped over Silver/Gold/Crystal. They are long and have a lot to do story wise, but they are very limited in terms of what pokemon you use that are different than red/green, waiting to do it until later is very smart on that alone, then it's heart and soul to make it even better.
my personal plan to replay through all gens is:
FireRed -> Emerald -> Platinum -> HeartGold -> White 1 -> White 2 -> Y -> Omega Ruby -> Ultra Sun -> Let’s Go Eevee -> Shield -> Shining Pearl -> Legends: Arceus -> Scarlet
The Perfect Playthrough 👍
This is the order i played these as a kid. I quit at hgss though
Sounds like you had a good childhood 💯
1:FRLG 2: Emerald 3:HGSS 4:Platinum 5: Black & White 6: X&Y 7: Oras 8:USUM 9: Sword & Shield 10: Scarlet & Violet.
(Note: it may be a controversial opinion to skip the original sun and moon, but usum it’s so much better in all aspects.)
Good order but too many games for a beginner, gotta trim some that are just alright
Valid order👍
I dont think there would be much harm for playing USUM over SU/MO. I just see them in a similar vain to BW and B2W2 on a smaller scale
@@AGTxASSASSIN I see this is kind of like the ultimate list
Replace FRLG with Dark Violet (GBA Romhack) for a better story connection with HGSS
@@ItzJhon It may be bcuz of bias but I personally like them better because they don’t stray too far story wise until the end
Great order, I would add some games with side comments: Play bw2 after bw if you really enjoyed bw. If you liked Emerald, play ORAS after xy. Adding these as extras gives space for an optional better experience. Bw2 are straight up upgrades from bw so if you enjoyed those games, bw2 will enhance the gen 5 experience. If you liked gen 3, playing trough it in gen 6 is also a great extra experience. Even though for me Emerald is the best gen 3 experience, the extras and gen 6 megas really make it a great extra experience. It all depends on the time you got (lets be real here, no one is really 'buying' the older games if they have never played Pokemon before). So adding those as extras in addition to the 5 games only route gives a lot of diversity in the time you want/have to spend. Legends is also a nice honorable mention to experience something new after all the classic gameplay games.
100% agree!
I may be biased but, I think if you enjoyed any pokemon game, you should try out XD & Colosseum.
Easily the most slept on games in the entire franchise.
Personally, I feel BW2 need to be played due to it being a direct sequel to BW, and it’s absolutely brilliant seeing how the characters have developed in the 2 years. Also I’d suggest playing HGSS everytime after FRLG due to the fact that once again it’s a sequel and then go back the Emerald then Platinum. Also USUM over SM because they are basically just expanded versions
The only thing about playing hgss before emerald is that when you go back to emerald, there's gonna be some quality of life stuff that you got used to that is now missing.
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Thanks : ) Love your comment : D
I agree for the most part, but why not play Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon instead of the first games? They're much better and they added a lot of memorable stuff!
Good question. I went into detail in another comment but the short version is,
the plot of usum feels like an alternate telling of the alola story while su/mo feels like the intended plot
@@ItzJhon I guess that makes sense, I haven't played the original SM so I wouldn't know. I just feel that USUM are more complete and tie together the whole Alola arc.
Was I the only one who expected him to give an order for all 37 games or at least include the remakes, too? xD But still a good video!
I can if ya want ¬‿¬
also anyone who uses xD is a friend of mine
only 37 games? chump change
for mw person fire red/leafgreen,hg/ss ,emerald/oras are best
me
you are very correct
I'd say the ultra lean list would be to just stick with emerald, platinum, HGSS and if you're not liking pokemon, give it one last chance with Legends Arceus. Some games like sword and shield, and the lets go ones will make you feel ripped off, gen 1 and 2 are great and all, but too glitchy and mechanics do not represent the plus side of these games, gen 5+ are great too, but pokemon peaked in gens 3 and 4.
I'm sippin that ultra lean
If you asked me,
Emerald, Platinum and HGSS are without a doubt the best games in the franchise.
Buuuuuut, In order to appreciate the good ones and get a full grasp of the franchise, I had to throw in some of the more polarizing games.
Why would you choose SM instead of USUM???
I went into detail in another comment but long story short,
Usum are objectively better games but have an altered plot that doesn't make as much sense as base Sun and moon.
The only issue I have with fire red is that you can’t get mewtwo after beating the game.
yeah... it is a little annoying that you have to do some of the sevii island stuff before mewtwo. But at the end of the day, you can still catch em : D
So I love Black 2/White 2. And while I was initially against you leaving it out, I slept on it and understood where you were coming from. B2/W2 introduced a lot of amazing features and while I still love these games, one thing that I wasn’t a fan of was the purposeful ambiguity of what happened to the player character from Black/White. While the development process would have probably pushed the release date back: if they took the Kyurem story from B2/W2 and put that in the post game of Black/White (heck, do a time skip of 2 years), I think it would have been better. N saving Hilbert/Hilda would have hit more because of all the previous interactions N had with them up to that point. If they did this, I think Black/White would have been the best Pokémon games of all time.
Also, if they implemented more elements of Platinum into Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl (like how they put elements of Crystal into HeartGold/SoulSilver), that would have gotten my vote into the optimal play order lite list. I’m still bummed BDSP wasn’t as good as it could’ve and should’ve been.
Having bw2 being the post game for base bw would have been so cool. While I would take bw2 anyday over base bw, it dosent give anywhere near the same gen 5 experience as black and white. With that in mind, If there were more differences between the main game, I would have prob said to play it.
You're right in saying Hoenn has the best selection of pokemon. A ton of my favorite mons come from that region, and it also has my favorite legendaries.
Nothin but facts
Also 10/10 pfp 💯
@@ItzJhon hehe thanks!
I almost completely agree, is if I had written the script myself. I do think BW2 are more enjoyable games than BW tho, so I’d swap those
Me too tbh. Picked BW over it in the optimal playthrough cuz its a better representation of unova and gen 5
I'd argue that the best game to start at is X and Y, since its the easiest game and the most barebones in terms of locations, story, and postgame
unpopular opinion: I actually didnt enjoy playing HG&SS all that much, due to the level curve. I love the johto region, its beautiful and has so much potential. But the "open world" mechanic is poorly executed to the point that its just more confusing than anything, and the fact that you can only really keep one pokemon up to level without hours of grinding (grinding options are very limited in johto aswell) really limits my enjoyment of the games.
The Gamecube games are amazing.
🤝 aint nobody a bigger fan of colosseum and XD than me 😤😤
gen 7 is not skippable in any way. snorlaxium z alone is worth it plus you get pre nerf Disguise on mimikyu and the best 3ds era story. just play usum if you can’t do both
Gen 7 is my least fave but if someone wants to be completely versed in the pokemon franchise, you realistically cant skip any gen.
The “optimal” play order is trash, skipping bw2, playing emerald instead of ORAS, playing Sun and moon instead of the ultra games, no legends arceus, and no mention of dlc, is crazy
What are you missing by skipping bw2 if you already played bw?
Oras is in a weird place cuz its more of a side-grade than an upgrade which makes me lean toward emerald.
Honestly su/mo and the ultra games are interchangeable. su/mo has the more faithful alola plot so I would lean that way but again it dosent really matter
Legends arceus is a great game but its such a far-cry from everything else.
Dlc in every pokemon game is always optional. The goal of the list is to give the player a complete scope of the franchise with the least amount of games possible
b/w2 is much better then anything after it
while I love scarlet and violet, I can agree on that. (legends arceus is also reallly close for me tho)
@@ItzJhon besides arceus yeah
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Why SM over USUM?
I like the story of SM more, but even I acknowledge that USUM is better mechanically
Crazy timing
Honestly a really good question. I wanted to talk about that!
I bounced around putting US/UM over SU/MO but decided with the latter for one reason in particular.
While USUM is objectively better because of things like Ultra Necrozma and Ultra Warp Ride,
the way it disrupts the story makes me side with SU/MO as the more faithful Alola experience.
90% of the plot in USUM is the exact same but then removes the lusamine finale (which the plot is intended to build toward) and replaces it with an out of place (albeit better) Necrozma finale. (Basically the same reason I chose B/W over B2W2 but on a smaller scale).
Also I think the ultra necrozma stuff fits better if you played through SU/MO because you would have context to what is being replaced.
TL;DR USUM's story feels like a "true ending" while SU/MO's feels more like the normal intended route. It doesn't make sense to play the true ending before the normal one.
@@ItzJhon
Hmmm, I kind of get were you are coming from, but I don't necessarily agree because the same line of thinking can be applied to say Emerald or Platinum.
In Emerald for example, the way Groudon is handled and the replacement of Steven with Wallace disrupted the story at least for me.
When Groudon is awakened after you've obtained the sixth badge, there's this huge gap where it's just gone until after Kyogre has been awakened as well. I found it so odd that after Groudon was awakened, I managed to visit Lilicove City, infiltrate Team Aqua's base, travel across Route 124 to follow their submarine, get to Mossdeep City, get the seventh Gym Badge, stop Team Magma at Mossdeep Space Station, travel across Route 127 and 128, get to Seafloor Cavern, then and witness the awakening of Kyogre. And in the meantime Groudon was just... non existent I guess. No massive drought like in Ruby, no mention or acknowledgement by others that a giant red Pokémon is walking across the region, and no encounter with Groudon until Kyogre is awakened.
As for the replacement of Steven with Wallace, it disrupts the story because Steven is still set up as an important character, given that he appears throughout your journey, helps you getting past the invisible Kecleon, and is very active during the weather catastrophe. Heck you even get to tag battle with him at Mossdeep Space Station. This set up worked in Ruby/Sapphire (and by extension ORAS) because he was the champion of the region, much like how not only Lance before was set up but also how other champions like Cynthia later were set up. But even though Emerald keeps all of this set up for Steven, it doesn't pay it off because Wallace is the champion, and he is just shoehorned in at the very last minute (it was fine enough in Ruby/Sapphire because he was the gym leader of Sootopolis City which was being targeted by Groudon/Kyogre, but it doesn't work as our only encounter for the champion). And Steven is just some guy now I guess, even though he has gotten all of this buildup.
Groudon's absence in the story until Kyogre's awakening and the whole thing with Steven and Wallace doesn't make sense in Emerald unless you have the context of how it was in Ruby/Sapphire (and by extension ORAS). That's at least how I felt as someone who only last year played Emerald for the first time but who played Sapphire for the first time in 2013 and Alpha Sapphire in 2014.
For Platinum, you could argue that while its gym order doesn't disrupt the story per say, it does look kind of off that Fantina is still in the badge case placed as the fifth gym leader, and then you just have this gap with Maylene's and Crasher Wake's badges just not being there. Even the expanded Pokédex looks kind of off with how you just have these bunch of otherwise normal Pokémon being placed after legendary Pokémon like Dialga and Palkia. These things do not disrupt the story, but they look off and may require context for how it was in Diamond/Pearl (and by extension BDSP).
What is however kind of a disruption to the story is Giratina's inclusion, and this is really interesting because it somewhat parallels with Necrozma in USUM. The plot of Platinum builds towards the same climax of Diamond/Pearl (you traverse through Mt. Coronet to make it to Spear Pillar, stop Cyrus and battle Dialga and Palkia), but then suddenly Giratina shows up, kidnaps Cyrus, and then you have to go into Giratina's dimension and fight that rather than Dialga and Palkia (who just kind of disappear even though there've been an okay amount of setup for them). This is kind of like USUM, where its plot mostly builds towards the same as Sun/Moon (you traverse through Vast Poni Canyon to make it to the Alter of the Sunne/Moone, meet Solgaleo/Lunala and stop Lusamine), but then suddenly Necrozma appears, kidnaps Solgaleo/Lunala, and then you have to travel to Necrozma's dimension and fight it rather than Lusamine. A key difference however is how Giratina and Necrozma are put into the plot. Whereas Necrozma is (you could argue clunkily but still) actually set up thanks to the UItra Recon Squad and Lusamine's changed motivation, Giratina has no setup and just appears out of nowhere during the climax at Spear Pillar, and it's only there and in the Distortion World that you are told by Cynthia the who, what, and why of Giratina. Now I personally don't think that this lack of setup is a bad thing, as it gives the story a plot twist that is more surprising and subverts expectations compared to Diamond/Pearl. However unlike Emerald I did play Platinum for the first time in 2009, so perhaps I may not have found the lack of setup to be that distracting because I've had Platinum shape my understanding of the Sinnoh story for 15 years now even though I played Diamond first in 2008. And I think that this is important to recognize in how we view the story changes in USUM.
You and I may find that the story changes to USUM to be disrupting because we played Sun/Moon before USUM and therefore know what to look for when it comes to inconsistencies. And the reason we may not have the same issues with say Emerald or Platinum is because we were very young when we played them and therefore didn't really think about it. I was practically a young adult when USUM came out so I would definitely take notice of these things in that game, but I was ten when Platinum came out and didn't have and issue with it. Yet it is very weird that this is how I feel when Giratina in Platinum had no setup whereas Necrozma in USUM actually did. Maybe if I hadn't played Moon before I played Ultra Moon, I wonder if I would have had an issue with Necrozma's inclusion. From what I have seen online of people who skipped Sun/Moon and only played USUM, these people don't seem to find Necrozma's inclusion disruptive to the story. They seem to like it a lot actually. You can argue that maybe Necrozma's inclusion may make more sense if you've already played Sun/Moon to get the context, but I would then argue the same against Emerald for the reasons stated above.
So yeah, that's why I still believe that USUM is still the game to go for instead of Sun/Moon, because while we may feel that Necrozma disrupts the story, it's probably because we already played Sun/Moon before USUM and therefore notice it.
Also, I would 100% in any game go for the true ending rather than the normal ending, especially if I can't get the true ending almost immediately after I got the normal ending. You ain't catching me playing an RPG twice just to get the actual canonical ending
@HMMadsen
The difference is that Emerald and Platinum are infinitely better in every way than the first versions and are the ”complete” versions (the actual story of Team Aqua and Magma, Groudon and Kyogre and not some random one team evil, one just, is, etc.) so it isn’t even a competition even if those few things a disruptive for you.
That is not the case woth S/M vs USUM. While USUM is in many ways better, it is much more of an alternative choice to the first games because the first games are also complete despite not touching Necrozma. And I’d argue the story of SM might actually be better in many ways; that Lusamine ending, finding out she’s crazy and the Pokemon frozen in her lab basement etc, hit so much harder than anything in USUM story offered, which used the same elements even though Lusamine’s character wasn’t even the same in that game. Those pokemon in ice didn’t fit because she was not the same character with same motivations in the second game, and she was not the focus so no payoff for any of that. It was just off, felt like there wasn’t time to do any changes for assets to match the new story.
And because they aren’t that much better compared to the first ones, ”incomplete” like R/S or D/P were, S/M might be the more natural and better experience for Alola, while there is literally no argument for playing sapphire over Emerald or Diamond over Platinum. Not sure which one I would suggest if I was in that position but would definiteöy have to think about it instead of just easy USUM
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I do also agree that Emerald and Platinum are much better than Ruby/Sapphire and Diamond/Pearl respectively and that they are the more "complete" versions (although Wallace being the champion in Emerald does feel more like an alternative choice with Steven in Ruby/Sapphire being the more correct one, something which GameFreak seems to acknowledge with ORAS), and I also love the story in Sun/Moon may more than USUM (for many years I even hated USUM because of its changes to the story), but I do still think that USUM is the more complete experience as a whole.
Even though I love Sun/Moon, it definitely wasn't a complete experience. The incomplete buildings in different towns/cities, the story of Lillie's/Gladion's father and Lusamine's husband serving no role in the main plot (only as optional dialogue by Gladion in the post game), the pacing of Poni Island during the main story, the lack of a proper Victory Road, the Ultra Beasts being shoehorned into random patches of grass throughout Alola in the post game, and Ultra Space as a concept not reaching its full potential were all issues which USUM addressed. I remember a lot of people thinking that a follow up game to Sun/Moon was a given because of how incomplete the base game was (although most people from what I could tell expected a sequel akin to B2W2). Aside from feeling unfinished and underdeveloped in these areas, Sun/Moon also leaves certain story threads open and incomplete that aren't followed up upon (like what happens to Lillie in Kanto and if Lusamine will be saved from the Nihilego poison), whereas USUM actually tries to wrap up its story in just one game (what happened to Lillie in Kanto isn't important because she never travelled to Kanto, and Lusamine doesn't need to be saved from the poison because she was never poisoned to begin with).
And while I wasn't a fan of how USUM handled Lusamine, it may not be an issue for people who didn't play Sun/Moon. I for example wasn't a fan of the frozen Pokémon in USUM for the reason you stated, but others may just interpret that as a hint towards Lusamine's darker side. Because while she's not as insane in USUM as she is in Sun/Moon, she is still not well in the head, and the frozen Pokémon are there to show it (I do think that she should've faced some consequences for that now that she's walking around scot-free in USUM, but I've mostly come to terms with that scene). And I have seen people who prefer Lusamine in USUM because they find her to be a more morally gray character with Lusamine in Sun/Moon just being crazy.
So I would still argue that USUM is the more correct game to go with compared to Sun/Moon because it is overall a more complete experience, and what we may view as disruptions aren't that big of a deal for people who didn't play Sun/Moon to begin with
"Play order". Im mostly just confused as to what goal there is or benefit in this being discussed, as a lot of this is self evident and largely agreed on.
Most of the games are self contained in a narrative sense outside of the connections to gen 1-2 and bw/bw2. Just abouteverything else connective is simply iterative in a mechanical sense or (for l gen 5 or 6 on mostly) a different angle to the particular game.
Now if you mean to examine the series interms of that history and iteration, it only really makes sense to follow its own timelin3 of function. Meaning, follow by release order and compare to source material for the remakes.
For artistic progression's sake, this shit is spelled out!
If you meant for personal enjoyment, i suppose that is subjective , but could be informed by the game direction. Different environments and different gameplay offerings or structures will call to different people's different interests.
Regardless, good discussions of this are being had, i just am unsure the end goal
I do agree with the original sentiment of ur argument here. The beauty of pokemon is that u realistically can start anywhere. However, that dosent mean that there arent better places to start
The purpose of this video is to provide the most concise list of games that encapsulates every generation in the most methodical and enjoyable order possible.
Playing these games in this order provides
-the ability to transfer your pokemon as you progress
-play the games chroniglogically by release order
-experience every generation of pokemon in the least amount of games possible.
Im a firm believer that back tracking in a franchise can heavily distort ur experience of a game.
Anyone who starts with scarlet and violet will 100% get whiplash if they wanted to play something like emerald after. The absence of partywide xp, xp candies, a 3d open world environment and the inclusion of HMs would definitely be a hindrance that simply wouldnt exist if you played emerald first
@@ItzJhon older mechanics could easily get misconstrued as issues going back and only seeing them as more work for the player, so there's definitely credit to that as well as quality of life and fun of actually getting to use the between game transfer features, so I can follow that
Replace Red, Blue, Yellow, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Let's Go Pikachu, and Let's Go Eevee with Dark Violet (GBA Romhack) for a better story connection with Heart Gold/Soul Silver. Thank me later
You should play gen won only
I think gen 5 should be skipped and replaced with platinum (in your shorter optimal playthrough), but overall I don't disagree with anything. Best way to experience the games (besides BW), great job!
I would personally take gen 4 over gen 5 10/10 times. But to give the complete scope of the franchise, sometimes you need to play the "not as good" ones xD
@@ItzJhon yea i get that, i'd just prefer to skip, but it is a necessary evil
You don’t need to Play anything After xy
Lowkey kinda cooked. If I had to pick something post gen 6, it would prob be either legends arceus or scarlet/violet
this one assumes gen 9 is good. i believe, having not played them yet, that gens 7-9 are all bad and good pokemon ended at gen 6. here is my order
1. firered/leafgreen
2. omegaruby/alphasapphire
3. platinum(+diamond/pearl)
4. heartgold/soulsilver
5. black/white
6. red/blue
7. gold/silver/crystal
8. ruby/sapphire/emerald
9. black2/white2
10. x/y
11. sun/moon
12. legends arceus
13. sword/shield
14. scarlet/violet
15. ultrasun/ultramoon
16. letsgopikachu/letsgoeevee
17. brilliantdiamond/shiningpearl
18. yellow
in reality, 1-3 are pretty solid, but 4-10 can be in any order, and 11-15 can be in any order as well. i agree that kanto should be played first, while also familiarizing oneself with gen3's old but solid mechanics. once they know how those games work, i have no problem backtracking. i just put the gens 1 and 2 where i would expect someone to start becoming interested in the wierdness of the old generations. after all the good games are finished at 10, i put the later games so that if one is still interested in playing more pokemon games, that's when i would start playing them. finally 16-18 are games not worth playing, but if one is really interested, then there they are, after knowning the good pokemon. personally i would probably stop at 11
Idk about the logic in assuming everything after gen 6 is bad, even if you might be joking. I mean red and blue are a buggy mess surely the later games are better than that
Actually, there's so much wrong with this list I'm gonna assume you aren't at all serious
@@AGTxASSASSIN i am interested in hearing what you think is wrong with the list. look also at my more generalized list with 4-10 and 11-15 in arbitrary order. what criticisms do you have besides the one you previously posted?
@@7lllll I know you've said that 4-10 and 11-16 can be in any order, but i feel that there is such a broad range in quality within those groups that if someone who has never played the series before picks a random selection from those groups, they may have a completely different experience depending on what they pick.
@@7lllll For instance, I might advise anyone new to not bother with the pre-2000's games entirely because there are just objectively better ways to play those regions today.
My optimal way
Yellow
Crystal
Emerald
Platinum
Fire Red/LG
Heart gold/ SS
Skip the rest coz they all trash
Lowkey cooked
I prefer ORAS to emerald ngl
I can see it tbh. As a huge gen 3 fan tho, there were some steps forward, but a lot of steps back in Oras. Shoehorning megas in, made oras have a lot of the same problems XY did. The game is waaaaaaay too easy. I had the biggest bruh moment when they just give you latios/latias after only the 5th gym.
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I speak for everyone when i say it shows you haven’t played BW2 in a long time haha. Definitely give it a full replay and it’ll surely change your pov
I was literally just shiny hunting in it ;)
BW2 are exponentially better games than BW. However, BW and BW2 are too similar to justify playing both in a list meant to show off the franchise in the least amount of games possible. With that in mind, playing BW2 without BW wont make much sense.
@@ItzJhonlol why not just have them play through both bw1 and 2? The story's are completely different and the first 3 towns are entirely different as well! Also every other location has new additions as well as all of the gyms being completely revamped with some having new gym leaders! It's definitely worth a play after base Bw! I didn't even mention all of the side activities! I just focused on the main story but yeah it's definitely more deserving of a play through if you've played bw1 than usum is If you've played sm. Usum are for the most part the exact same games while bw2 doesn't have a single portion of its story taken from the first games since it's not a 3rd version but the canonical next mainline game in the series!
@@Shyguy2434 playing both bw and bw2 increases the amount of games in the exercise for little additional experience imo. It should be either one or the other, in my opinion that would be bw2 but anyway.
Join avenue is the greatest contribution bw2 makes
I was shocked when I heard you say HGSS was your favourite. Each to their own, and it was a great game, but the level curve is insane 😭 Respect though
I always found the whole “level curve” issue with hgss such a null point. Especially when you can literally beat the game by only using ur starter and mashing A (which is what most of us did as kids). It feels like a minor flaw people exaggerate to keep “the best game” debate going. Its no where near as big of a flaw as how linear and dungeon-heavy unova is or how unbearable the cutscenes and handholding is in alola.
Ditching gen 7 and 8 is the best choice you could make ¬‿¬
7 was my best experience with mainline Pokémon :( (I've played 1-7 + SP & PLA)
@@Garde_Mystik and thats a good thing! :) i think for me it was just a little too different from normal pokemon, with some changes i wasnt fond of, for it to be high on my list. Not to mention USUM coming out way too soon after the regular games imho. But the great thing about pokemon is theres always someone to love it. So even if its not my fave, im glad its yours :)
@@Garde_Mystik Good!! :D the most important part of pokemon is if it makes you happy, I'm glad you enjoyed it! It was very experimental and has a ton of charm because of that, there's a lot going for it!
Bro said to skip the best games in the series 😭
Whatcha mean?
Heartgold and Soulsilver are on here :)
Just Play PokeMMO then X/Y. Ive enjoyed the Pokemon games after (exclusing Sun & Moon, where the only good aspect imo is the new Pokemon) but theyre so subpar compared to gen 1-6 aside from battle mechanics, and a lot of those mechanics involve all the gimmicks exclusive to each later gen
B2W2 is better than B1W1
I 100% had more fun with B2W2 than BW
Was absolutly vibing until he said scarlet and violet should be the last to be played. SwSh's graphics weren't great but they were better than SV 😭 Still a cool video tho!
SwSh's graphics were better than SV? Not at all.
Unless you mean that SwSh were better games than SV, in which case that is more debatable. I personally think SV is better in most ways than SwSh except for the gimmick (though honestly I wish they would just stop with the gimmicks completely and do megas properly).
He did say he wanted to keep things chronological as well, which is a good idea i think.
In terms of the player characters, Gen 8 is infinitely better especially with its customization.
But when it comes to overall character design and graphics, I'm taking SV 10/10 times. While SV is definitely more buggier, the new detail in the Pokémon models alone makes that game look nicer.
+ I really didn't like how many battles in Sw/Sh took place in a void or how pokemon would "pop in" the wild area
I liked the video, but was deeply hurt by the omission of gens 1 and 2 and their respective post-games (Pokémon stadium). And I would not be ashamed of recommending emulation for new players on a budget, straight up. Shame is on Nintendo for terrible management of their legacy content.
there isnt quite like the vibe of gen 2 so it hurt me omitting them too :/
Had to stop watching after he said skip B2W2
While bw2 are phenomenal games (much better than BW)
They arent the best
@@ItzJhon Except they are. By a longshot.
Pokemon went downhill after Gen 4
Facts
Gen 5 over Gen 4? You're never beating the allegations now
I love natural harmonia gropius. He is my favourite pokemon character because he's umm deep i think
Bro was cooking until he said SV were "complete" games 💀💀🙏
The rest of the list is good, i would just swap uot SV with legends arceus
Maybe I glazed scarlet and violet a lil too hard😅
but I do still think they are "complete". They just needed a lot more polishing.
scarlet and violet? not even Arceus? well u completely missed a gem and replaced it with a pokemon game that it’s main theme is bullying instead of fist fighting an Ursaluna. wack.
I think it would be strange to include Legends Arceus in this exercise. It plays completely differently than your typical pokemon game. The video is about how a newcomer can experience the core franchise for the first time efficiently, and Legends feels more like extra reading than a core game.
It is completely reasonable to exclude an entire gen if it doesn't represent a particular milestone in the series. That's the whole point of the video. Where can you trim the fat to give a new player the most efficient and best overview of the series?
Scarlett and Violet are simply better games and a more significant milestone than gen 8.
@@AGTxASSASSINwho hasnt played pokemon? it’s uncommon but not impossible but eh ig. it’s not rocket surgery to figure out Arceus 😂
@@zackypoo9261 Not many people who would be interested haven't played pokemon I suppose but that is the hypothetical that the video is about.
I didn't say Arceus was hard to figure out, it's perfectly fine. But it isn't like the rest of the series so it doesn't really do the job of representing the series with it's gameplay. It's best left out for this video.
These are for OG son sit back grown men are speaking
@@fatboy9401 ur name is fatboy you been sitting down 😂
Let's Go Pikachu/Let's Go Eevee is mainline Pokemon games. It is time people acknowledge what is reality without saying delusional things because they hate the game.
What?
I’d rather play Pokémon ranger or mystery dungeon over a decent amount of mainline games. Let’s Go has the best graphics though, in my opinion
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 You could go play Digimon games or Palword for all I care but that is not the point. Let's Go games are mainline games and that is the only thing which matters in my original statement.
Okay, but what has this video to do with Let's Go?
@@HMMadsen The guy at start of the video made a joke thinking he was being clever. Look at 0:00~0:04.
How many dislikes does this video have
40 I think
gen 5 is no bueno