Trial Tube - 2 Stroke VS 4 Stroke Fuel Injected Trials Bikes - Montesa VS Vertigo

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  • čas přidán 11. 11. 2021
  • This week on Trial Tube we are revisiting a video that we have made before in season 1 but with a difference this time the viewers will be able to decide on which bike they like the best out of the bikes that have come far enough to no longer require a carburettor.
    We pit against each other the latest in fuel injected trials motorcycle machines over the exact same sections once more.
    Who will win when it comes to this battle of the two most epic brands open the market right now. Will it be the experience and sturdiness of the Montesa Cota 4RT 301RR? Or will the new kid on the block from Vertigo with their famed R3 take the win?
    We also have another little extra in this video where we talk about the run through of a new clothing brand SORRA!
    You can check those guys out at www.sorrauk.com
    You can now also get in touch to collaborate with us on our videos at our shiny new website www.trialtube.co.uk
    THIS IS TRIALTUBE!!!

Komentáře • 108

  • @motot3adventure
    @motot3adventure Před 5 měsíci +2

    The best. It doesn't matter what you know, It matters what you can coach. You both were brilliant!!!

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Thank you means a heap!!!

  • @warrenlange6106
    @warrenlange6106 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for the fun videos. Much appreciated

  • @jrtwleshgirl
    @jrtwleshgirl Před 2 lety +5

    bought a 301 about 6 months ago. probably the best bike i have ever had. heavier than the rest but the suspension and brakes make up for it. maintenance is super easy. build quality is outstanding and second hand value is brill

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      They are an insanely experienced brand and build!

    • @TheNewRider.
      @TheNewRider. Před 2 lety +2

      What are you saying the difference is lb wise between these two ? If I not to late to the party 🎈👍

  • @derrickanderson2783
    @derrickanderson2783 Před 2 lety +4

    You guys are so dope! I love seeing watching you and the bro riding together. And it helps ya'll got the illest bikes lol

  • @sambrown1779
    @sambrown1779 Před 2 lety +5

    Cheers for that.
    301rr looked very heavy. But TBH I'd be happy with either 😂😎👍

  • @OKFrax-ys2op
    @OKFrax-ys2op Před 7 měsíci +2

    Bunny hopping the afternoon away

  • @daveast2551
    @daveast2551 Před 2 lety +1

    Happy Anniversary Misters Butler. Here's to another year (at the very least). Cheers!

  • @ccarrigan6178
    @ccarrigan6178 Před 2 lety +2

    Top class as usual 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @NorthWestEnduro
    @NorthWestEnduro Před 2 lety +2

    I ride past that trials track whilst out green laning in the peaks. Looks great fun!

  • @Syncrogreg
    @Syncrogreg Před 8 měsíci +2

    I want lightest and quitest trial bike for my camper van . You got any recommendations? Thx

  • @davidevorider2002
    @davidevorider2002 Před 2 lety +2

    Enjoyed that a lot different than other uploads but still light hearted and fun to watch keep them coming, is there a link to the kit website ??

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      There is in the description 👍👍

  • @yoshyoka
    @yoshyoka Před 2 lety +6

    SOmehow I think zou should make a second video in which you two switch bikes. By riding a unfamiliar bike you start to see where the differences really are :)

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +4

      That’s a good idea! We will do that 👍👍

    • @yoshyoka
      @yoshyoka Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrialTube Nice, thanks!

  • @tomberrisford6006
    @tomberrisford6006 Před 2 lety +4

    Looking forward to your nitro review. 👍

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      It’s coming in less than a week

  • @stevesmith355
    @stevesmith355 Před 2 lety +2

    Awsome footage and content ,i have a 2021 301 RR has your brother changed the gearing on his bike, and what gear did he use on the sections and long rock climb?
    looking forward to the nitro review

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      Standard cheating for my brother buddy and just some good old fashioned practice and time on the bike

  • @hughrobertson-payne914
    @hughrobertson-payne914 Před 2 lety +7

    Hey Dan, loving your work! What would be the chances of doing a couple of videos using older smaller bikes? I’m just starting out in trials and have a Rev 3 250 (wanted a 200 really) and it would be cool to see some
    comparisons or reviews done on the older less powerful bikes for us newbies/lower level Clubman riders. Or maybe it’s just me. Happy for you to do a video just for me if necessary 😬

    • @hughrobertson-payne914
      @hughrobertson-payne914 Před 2 lety +4

      For clarity, it would just be interesting to see how you compare the older bread and butter stuff to the newer top kid the range stuff for the benefit of us who have older bikes rather than new 300’s for a bit of variety 😀

  • @k.snyder_812
    @k.snyder_812 Před 2 lety +2

    I really like that gear might even get me some

  • @richiehall4832
    @richiehall4832 Před rokem +2

    Another great video Danny, informative, engaging and very well edited as a newbie good to get both 2 stroke and 4 stroke perspectives, certainly have a look for the Sörra kit looks decent, maybe put a link to their website, did they offer your subs any discount codes?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem +2

      I will ask them! Thanks again and this is one of the older ones for sure but happy you like it!

    • @richiehall4832
      @richiehall4832 Před rokem +1

      @@TrialTube Ive just ordered a race top and pants but ordered fat size hahah, got to meet up with your dad again today when buying a trailer so nothing stopping me and the lad getting out and practicing now. Slowly getting through your videos when time permits and learning almost as much as when riding, keep them coming great content.

  • @Chris_C_
    @Chris_C_ Před rokem +3

    Dan, if sound was a consideration for riding close to homes etc do you think the 4 stroke was noticeably more obtrusive or similar?

  • @jr6874
    @jr6874 Před 2 lety +3

    Both bikes look very capable the 2-stroke has a nice quiet sound to it

  • @ianmargetts4940
    @ianmargetts4940 Před 2 lety +3

    Blimey, I had sorra gear from Alan wright in the nineties, it was nice stuff then, still looks same now! What comes around goes around! 😂

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      It’s great and nice people too

  • @johndimeo1821
    @johndimeo1821 Před rokem +4

    It would be cool to switch and see who could adapt more easily

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem +2

      That’s a good idea will do that for sure!!

  • @montesamapping
    @montesamapping Před rokem +1

    Really honest review!
    Good job.
    On my channel you can see some tricky obstacles for common drivers like me (not professionals) made with my Montesa 301 and Montesa 300 by Future (2011 constantly renewed through the years).
    I like Montesa for the push of the 4T and for reliability (one time I completed a trip with injection tube disconnected!).
    Yes it's more heavy, but also much more stable... and when you launch the bike in the right direction this is a real help!
    Moreover as your drive capabilities grows the bike seems really light and friendly!
    Maybe Montesa is more suitable for massive people like me...😉

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem

      Hi Giove!
      Thanks for the great comment and the support for what we do. It is a great bike and we will be making more content as we go along!
      Keep an eye out for more Montesa Content as we have one on the channel very soon!

    • @montesamapping
      @montesamapping Před rokem

      @@TrialTube For sure, this is a good news!

  • @liamwalker8244
    @liamwalker8244 Před rokem +1

    Hey Danny, cracking video. Do you mind me asking what size kit your wearing from Sorra. Similar build to you and not sure what size to go for. Cheers 👍

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem

      No worries my man! I am a XL top and Large pants 🤘

  • @Mustangschweinderl
    @Mustangschweinderl Před 2 lety +2

    Hi, greetings from Austria! Great videos!
    Regarding Sörra. I was a few times in their Webshop because the price of the kits seam to be very good. Do you know if there are different types of pants? I have a Hebo pant and after wearing the three times there were holes in it, without extensive use…. Not good.
    You said the sizes are a little bit small?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      Hello over in Austria, I know they have new style coming bud just keep an eye out on the website!

  • @madeintheusa
    @madeintheusa Před 2 lety +2

    Great video. How do the knee pads compare to S3 pads ?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      They are slightly thicker and feel more supple..👍

  • @hamiam2243
    @hamiam2243 Před 2 lety +3

    I would’ve like to see you switch bikes. I recently switched from a four stroke to a two stroke.👍💯🤠

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe we do that on our next ones (great idea btw)

  • @hoping67
    @hoping67 Před 2 lety +2

    I really want to see an older scorpa review,I think my 09 sy250 is amazing however... I'm shite so I'd like to see a competition rider on one? Same for the all older 2 strokes really. Just to see the advances over the years...😬😬 Love the vids by the way 👍

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      That’s an awesome idea and we do occasionally do the older bikes and I love the SY250. Will have to get our hands on one!

    • @hoping67
      @hoping67 Před 2 lety

      @@TrialTube awesome dude 🤙🤙 the logistics of getting some older bikes would be a total dick but really cool,the twin shock stuff was brilliant 👍

    • @francescxavierbulto9848
      @francescxavierbulto9848 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hoping67 I had a 97 Scorpa Easy and then the 99 and they were like riding a paving stone with a drag engine, just look at some Images of the big ball on the exhaust near the Rotax engine. They said it was to tame the engine power? After that I went Bultaco Sherco with 3 bikes 2000/01/02 and they got progressively worse. So I went Beta and wasn’t impressed. I was talking to Martin Crosswaite and he talked me into buying a new Scorpa SY (sales pitch back then) I rode them from 2004 up until 2009 and I was ultra impressed with them. Unfortunately there was a lack of development I thought and it appeared that Scorpa were always content with old style engines. Although the Yam was super smooth compared to the Rotax it just never really moved forward. In all honesty most bikes progression is painfully slow now as we are for now as far as we can progress.

    • @obscured021
      @obscured021 Před 2 lety +1

      I had a 06 sy250 as my first trials bike got it last September, great bike to learn on did over 100 days out and it never went wrong, changed it for a 18 beta factory start of the summer.

  • @user-pi9jx3yp6p
    @user-pi9jx3yp6p Před 2 lety +2

    Now we just need a comparison between a vertigo nitro and the new montesa cota 4rt 260r. The montesa does seem more temping at that price and now that its showa back and front. Both great bikes just a pity montesa dont make a 2 stroke fuel injected bike. Then that would be real competition.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      Well the nitro video is coming very soon 👍 I think we all wish there was still a Honda 2 stroke option

  • @Mustangschweinderl
    @Mustangschweinderl Před 2 lety +3

    I love my Vertigo! 😉

  • @timlewis5527
    @timlewis5527 Před 2 lety +2

    Looks like a section set by a 2 stroke rider!
    Would love to hear your thoughts on the 225cc nitro 200. I've ridden one and absolutely loved the engine.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +2

      I am yet to try it out and would be very interested as I have heard great things!!

    • @timlewis5527
      @timlewis5527 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TrialTube if i was to use it as the basis of a clubman build it would definitely need a flywheel weight, very lively bike

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +2

      @@timlewis5527 well imagine what my new 300 feels like, certain people said the 300 would be ok for a clubman…???
      Sure it would…

  • @donniebaker5984
    @donniebaker5984 Před rokem +2

    How close did brother come making his four stroke light enough to the two stroke

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem +2

      He has changed so many parts now to lighten the bike and it still way heavier

  • @BazzyPredPop
    @BazzyPredPop Před rokem +1

    Can I ask why are your brothers switched from a 4T to a Montesa and how does he think they are different/ better?
    Or is this a separate video?😊

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem

      He wanted a lighter feeling bike and the Montesa does just that it feels lighter to actually Ride . I’m not sure if it’s lighter overall cost of actually both quite heavy but he said he felt a difference.

  • @terraman2010
    @terraman2010 Před 2 měsíci +1

    2 stroke is nice

  • @dannyscrimshaw78
    @dannyscrimshaw78 Před 2 lety +2

    cracking place that

  • @whitecavman
    @whitecavman Před 2 lety +1

    Would be good with some GoPro footage for that section 👍👌

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      We don’t do go pro, they are terrible quality

  • @Syncrogreg
    @Syncrogreg Před 8 měsíci +1

    Is 4 stroke more quiet?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Believe it or not, in the trial bikes their isn't much of a difference...

    • @terraman2010
      @terraman2010 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes

  • @nicolaswinterstein499
    @nicolaswinterstein499 Před 2 lety +2

    Team Montesa 🤘

  • @rafcfernandes
    @rafcfernandes Před rokem +1

    It had to be the same person with the 2 bikes too

  • @GasGasChrisTabb17
    @GasGasChrisTabb17 Před 2 lety +1

    montesa all the way!

  • @Simon-df2ku
    @Simon-df2ku Před 2 lety +1

    both harder to ride than the Epure?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      Haha matter of opinions there 😜

    • @Simon-df2ku
      @Simon-df2ku Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrialTube thats kinda what i was looking for. we have a 2 stroke Beta but my Mrs thinks she would do better on the electric bike, i think she might be right. always enjoy the vids by the way.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      @@Simon-df2ku well check out my review and they do ride well and very simple to get along with. But take a ride upto Inch Perfect and try one out 👍👍

    • @Simon-df2ku
      @Simon-df2ku Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrialTube already booked in!

  • @darrynellis2709
    @darrynellis2709 Před 2 lety +2

    So what is the bike you absolutely like the best & why?

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +3

      For me at the moment it’s my Vertigo however I love some of the more classical bikes. They all have character and that’s why they all have their own special place! Hard to pick really

    • @darrynellis2709
      @darrynellis2709 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrialTube I thought that's what you thought but wasn't sure you'd say. Cheers love your channel 👊

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +1

      @@darrynellis2709 Well I have just picked up my next bike and it will be coming to the channel soon.

  • @georgemook1966
    @georgemook1966 Před 2 lety +2

    How’s the zip? Hahhahhahhahaha

  • @xopureiron9690
    @xopureiron9690 Před 2 lety +1

    How do you know if it’s a 2 stroke or 4 stroke

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      Off the sound 👍👍

    • @xopureiron9690
      @xopureiron9690 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TrialTube ok thank you ahah could you give me a bit of help I got a trials bike last night I switched from motocross to trials but I don’t know how to mix the fuel for trials because i had a 4 stroke before

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      @@xopureiron9690 what bike have ya had?

    • @xopureiron9690
      @xopureiron9690 Před 2 lety

      @@TrialTube Honda Crf250r

  • @jacco_por
    @jacco_por Před rokem +1

    Ha ha ha. You are so funny.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před rokem

      Thanks my mum says I am funny…looking!

  • @AShaw-bd4fy
    @AShaw-bd4fy Před 2 lety +2

    Hello

  • @richiehall4832
    @richiehall4832 Před rokem +2

    What’s the weight difference in Kgs between them both

  • @user-tu3pj9uw6s
    @user-tu3pj9uw6s Před 2 lety +1

    💪🏼🔥🔝✌🏼🇷🇺

  • @annasalimi5972
    @annasalimi5972 Před 2 lety +1

    Dan was in my school he peform

  • @gronno
    @gronno Před 2 lety +1

    Same bikes and riders but different sections, like a long rocky stream and a slippery rooty woodland. Suspect 4rt would do better.

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety

      We will change it up and re-do!

  • @marcmoloney9310
    @marcmoloney9310 Před 2 lety +1

    Dude is painful to watch

    • @TrialTube
      @TrialTube  Před 2 lety +3

      Must check out your videos sometime for tips….