JOE. Pure artristry in every level. When you go into a channel that previews speakers. And then you are envy and proud of the structure, cinematography,content. JOE'n'TELL is a total underated gem in the CZcams ocean...Guys let's be honest. Lets share this guy and make him bigger.!!!
I’m SO glad I found this channel. I’m listening to this through my Fives, and I couldn’t believe how cool this left/right, near/far, deep bass demonstration is - thank Klipsch for including HDMI-ARC (I’m watching CZcams on my Panasonic flat-screen with HDMI-ARC out connected to The Fives HDMI-ARC in*) and thank you, Joe N Tell - your demo blew me away. This vid is three years old, and my Fives are about two years old, so I know the Klipsch iOS/Android app has had updates in that time. The only very minor quibble I have with the iOS/Android app updates is that they require a USB thumb drive, but I really should have had some USB thumb drives a long time ago, especially as even 32Gb drives are ridiculously inexpensive these days (Klipsch says you only need a 1Gb drive, but at current prices, why limit yourself?), so updating the Klipsch is a big incentive to get some. Can’t wait to see how (or if) the app is better now. The reason I have The Fives is that I first bought a soundbar from Klipsch that turned out to be a dud; Klipsch sent me a replacement, which was also a dud. I called them, and they asked me if there was anything in their speaker line I’d like instead. I’d read a little about The Fives, and was especially interested because of the HDMI-ARC. I had no idea what the price was until last week when I happened across it online (found out they were about $200 cheaper back then, but still considerably more than what I paid for the dead soundbars). *Big Question: I just bought a Denon DRA-800H 5.2 Receiver - it has 5 HDMI inputs, and 1 HDMI-ARC Out. Unless I’m totally misunderstanding HDMI ARC (from The Fives manual: “The Fives must be connected to the TVs HDMI-ARC output… in order to receive TV Audio.”) That would seem to leave my Denon receiver’s HDMI-ARC Out with apparently no place to go. Am I misunderstanding this? I have a “5 in, 1 out” HDMI switch (because I have more than 5 HDMI devices), but that doesn’t seem to do me any more good than the Denon receiver. With my Panasonic flat-screen’s ONE HDMI-ARC out going to “The Fives’” ONE HDMI input, I don’t know how to - or if I even CAN - put my Denon receiver in the chain of devices, ending up with all sound going to “The Fives”. Am I just thick in the head (my wife thinks I often am!), or is there a way around this? Hope you - or someone - can answer this. Thanks for the great review! Bart Brown
I love the speaker leaderboard. You have always tried to refine and improve your videos in new and informative ways. It is really a testament to your work ethic and professionalism that you don't ever get complacent.
Unquestionably the best product review i have ever watched. In a class by yourself in quality, clarity, thoroughness, information, unbiasedness and total overall class of presentation. Unreal. Keep it up as you clearly know what you're doing. 👍
*Buy the Klipsch The Fives bit.ly/KlipschTheFivesAA * 0:00 Intro to The Fives by Klipsch 0:42 Overview 1:17 Things I Like 3:37 Features 12:16 REW Measurements 17:37 Speaker Leaderboard Ranking 23:08 Binaural Sound Demo 27:42 Thinks I Didn't Like 32:02 Outro 🔈 Speaker Leaderboard Rankings: bit.ly/SpeakerLeaderboard Disclaimer: The Affiliate links above earn me a commission if you purchase using those links. This is at no additional cost to you.
You seem to like to compare apples to oranges which nullifies all of your speaker placements save one. Powered speaker category you were dead on. The rest you hung yourself. So concidering your logic in placement is based on flawed thinking. I will concider Steve and Shaun to be light years more likely to be accurate. I do, however, like that you electronically graph the speaker and play them for us so I will continue to listen you you.
It would be much easier if I didn't force myself to compare each speaker in every category it would fit into. It's very easy if I'm comparing speakers that are similar in price and size. But what happens when a speaker like this comes along that is active? Should I NOT compare it to passive speakers. Just look through the comments and you'll see people are asking me to compare it to other passive speakers. Sometimes easy isn't what's right and so people enjoy hearing me struggle to figure out the placement of a speaker on my leaderboard. My leaderboard compares speakers based on category, price, and overall sound. I'm the only one doing that. One speaker can place higher than another for a particular category, and lower in another column. So it may seem like "apple's to oranges" to you, but many people are asking me to rank my favorite fruit so I do. If you don't agree with my placement, say what you disagree with specifically so we can discuss it. I strive to give viewers the MOST insight on my methodology, both subjective and objective, and therefore give viewers a chance to judge for themselves. I've seen other reviewers (no one specific) describe a speaker in certain ways that are the opposite of what the objective measurements say. When a tweeter shows a lower response compared to it's bass and midrange response, saying that it is "bright" isn't a matter of opinion, it's just incorrect. So it's hard for me to trust a reviewer who gets objective things wrong. Why would I guess at a frequency response when I can just measure it? I always found that odd when reviewers do that. Anyway, people will have reviewers that they like and dislike. I'm just thankful for those who appreciate what I do. If you read through the rest of my comments, you can see that people appreciate different aspects of my reviews and that's ok.
Thank you. I tried. Sometimes, I would rather not rush a review to be first. Instead, I try my best to value the viewer's time by providing as much valuable information possible in the shortest amount of time.
I had to since this thing went 30+ minutes. Give people the opportunity to go to the part they want or leave if they don't like what they see. I respect people's time. ☺️
Nice review! Easily the most thorough that I have seen. I own a pair of these and really like them. I am using them with a sub which allows a bit more positioning flexibility and a extra degree of control. You are absolutely right about HDMI ARC being a game changer. I feel like I enjoy these a little more each day. Of course audio is incredibly subjective but I couldn’t be happier with the purchase.
Wow. I'm new to this world of speakers and sounds and i have to say that this is the best and most professional review i've ever seen of any product i've looked for. Thank you sir 😁
Love the new format Joe! You may be taking the spot for the best speaker reviewer on YT! I can't believe those REW measurements for bass! I have the SVS Prime Wireless which also have a 4.5 woofer, and they struggle to get below 50hz for me even up against a wall. They must be doing some kind of DSP wizardry! I'm not sure how I feel about the DSP trend in these powered speakers lately. I guess they are going for mass market/soundbar killer like you said. If you're an audiophile, you probably already have an external DAC, are doing room EQ with REW upstream of the DAC, and don't need streaming, HDMI ARC, etc...
Thank you. Many of us who have been into this a while already have all of the components separately like you said. This is amazing for a novice though. Really awesome.
Excellent review, thank you 🙏🏼 And how you described how kids poke tweeters, but this one will “poke them back”...pretty well adorable (and a great selling “point”).
Did you check the price at Costco? Any idea how The Fives compare to the Audioengine A5+? I'm thinking of replacing my Audioengine A5 from 2008. Do you know if the wireless circuitry is powered when you use a 3.5mm cable to the AUX input to provide the signal?
I agree with you. I've had mine for only a month, I've added a Klipsch Synergy Black Label 120 sub and wow it's like you are at a live concert with everything you play through them musically, (I have yet to use them to watch a movie or tv).
Wish the Klipsch RP 600m had the same color woofer. That copper color takes some getting used to on the RP 600m. Maybe they will change it on the RP 600mII. LOL !! Great review, thanks.
@@joentell - It's really good. Not many others do this and the actual demo is so vital for customer knowledge / experience. ( get the right copyright free songs going .. or .. edit for 2 videos .. one will be review content.. another for demonetized listening)
Who thought 15 years ago the outcast speaker brand, Klipsch, would be moving this close to the top? I remember going into best buy and the Klipsch were not allowed into magnolias and the magnolias guys would laugh at then. Now, I bet the Klipsch would stand up to anything in there.
Hey Joe, maybe on future reviews you could show off axis measurements and directivity plots, especially of speakers with waveguides. Thanks for the review.
I could, but man these videos are already getting long. I think a detailed measurement like you're recommending is better suited for a written review. The frequency response is already too much for some folks.
Bass boosted for sure, but I'm hoping the updates to their Klipsch Connect app will allow the user to change the EQ to taste. As is, I think people coming from a sound bar (most with bloated bass) will appreciate what they get from these. I think that was their thinking. They figured more bass was a safer bet than too little bass.
Joe N Tell I’m just happy to not see a 6dB boost in the treble. Small wins. LOL And, seriously, great review. I love the new format. I have been wanting to do something similar with the time markers. I just don’t know how to yet. Keep up the great work. 👍
@@kohnfutner9637 It's funny to say that about 4.5" woofers but it's true. Someone from Klipsch reached out to me and said the ability to change EQ setting in the app IS coming. That's a big deal. I really hope they go all out and do some room EQ using the phone's mic.
And Joe this is Pete also noticed a modified the crossover in that speaker system from the previous system that swine the Twitter is no longer is Harsh modifying klipsch speakers for a while now the Crossovers can be modified to change the quality of the sound and just changing a couple of the capacitors can get rid of the hoarseness of the horns and I've done that for many of my friends
The sound demos are hands down awesome😁... If you'll do this exact thing with every future speakers you'll review, it will create a nice database for comparing speakers...
Thanks! The problem is that I'm constantly improving the process so it will be hard to do a good A/B comparison between videos until I get everything set up to my expectations
Nice review, thanks. I don't have a lot of experience in hifi system because previously I don't really listen to music at home, but I am changing a bit. I just got a couple of echo shows and really love to be able to just say "Alexa play foreigner" or other classic rock. With Amazon music and over 75 million songs, its a win. I just got back from Costco and bought the Fives in black for 499 and the Klipsch R-12SWi sub for 229, both were on sale, 800 out the door with tax for both. All i can say is WOW, Now i am worried about neighbors getting annoyed,lol. The sound is truly amazing and you can really feel the sub. I don't know if i will ever hook them up to my technics receiver since all the classic rock i love is available buy saying Alexa play Boston.
Just got the Kanto yu6 and stands, love them, these are something I could consider on the future if I upgrade Great for music and acceptable for tv dialogue Still enjoy my Samsung Soundbar with sub and rear speakers for tv but I think the Kantos my be better than the Soundbar on it’s own
I think if I knew what I know now I’d have started with a 3.0 system and build up, but soundbars are great for people who don’t want speakers on show Kantos great for my bedroom
got these on amazon for a great deal. after coupons discounts and rewards money i only paid $388 for these. I am a bass head and so these will be perfect for me. im not after audiophile sound. i want ridiculous bass in the smallest footprint possible. the deep bass extension is crazy for a 4.5 inch woofer. these almost go as deep as the edifier s1000mkii. they have a 5.5 inch bass driver and while they go deeper its only slightly. i just had the swan D100 and they dont do shit under 55hz and they have a 4 inch woofer. the fact that these can get into the 30s is nuts. I will be using these at work at lower volumes and so that dynamic bass adjustment at lower volumes to still get a full deep sound is why i was so interested in them. they come tomorrow. i should take them home and compare them to my S3000 pros just for the hell of it. they might not be that far off. s3000pros still will probably be more powerful and extend deeper. they can easily dig under 30hz. but for the size of the fives they might hold up well
Thanks for the video! How brilliant is the Klipsch marketing campaign through CZcamsrs! Very well played with "The Fives". Bravo! Klipsch does not need to pay for advertising, they just have to send their products to CZcams channels (that we trust or we did trust) and that is all. It is a shame that almost nobody talks about the flaws or weak points of "The Fives". It's terrifying that almost no one talks about how overpriced and overrated these speakers are. That ARC connection seems to be the panacea for audiophile CZcamsrs. Everything we always wanted. The single thing we were all dying for. Seriously? It kills me that no one has the balls to seriously propose alternatives, that could be better and even cheaper choices than "The Fives". And you know there are, probably not many, but Is everyone that afraid to tell? Are CZcamsrs scared of not receiving Klipsch products anymore? It's sad. The fewer followers a channel got, the more honesty you can find. They speak freely because they do not have the pressure from the manufacturers. The moment the brands put an eye on the channel, at that moment you can stop trusting 100% of its reviews. A little reminder to CZcamsrs; do not forget who supports your channels, not the brands but us. Many CZcamsrs remind us that they have not been paid for the review. However, they receive the products from the brands. Therefore, they have to talk about those products carefully if they want to keep receiving more products to create content. Luckily, there are still HiFi stores (if you have a good relationship with them and if the margin from Klipsch is not much higher than the other brands for the store) that will be more unbiased. We want the truth, not what a brand tell CZcamsrs to say. The best from a CZcams Channel is in its beginnings when it is more genuine and less biased. At some point (when the channel gets bigger and bigger) it seems that all the reviewed products are amazing and incredible. There are no wrong or mediocre products anymore. This is something all viewers should think of. I can't remember the last time I saw a CZcams channel complaining about the product they are reviewing or at least demanding and improvement to the manufacturer. Best regards.
@@joentell Hi Joe, I watched your YU6 and Diamond 12.1 reviews back and force from your SpeakerLeaderboard and tried to decide which one is better for my 12x10 dining room. My budget is $500 and main usage is 70% Classical/ 30% Jazz vocal. Which one do you recommend? Can I also add Klipsch The Sixes into my consideration too?
I like to think I'm a spokesperson for awesome products in general regardless of the company. The Fives were so good, I felt the need to make a video to match the quality and the effort put into making those speakers. I'm happy you liked the sound demo.
I like the concept of the rating system you use. It would be better if it was dialed in a bit more to take out some of the subjectivity or random ranking/placing. If you set up your criteria, then gave each one a weight (this shows how important that criterion is), then gave them a ranking for each setting and each amp. You then multiply the two together and sum the total so you have an EXACT number for your overall score. This way you have a score that is set for time instead of saying "well I maybe this and maybe that so I maybe I will stick it here". This is fine but maybe next week you would stick it somewhere else. Also, you or someone else can look back at the detailed reviews and know where the numbers came from and why. Right now it is still ambiguous. I think you have a great idea/concept that would be amazing if you cleaned it up a bit which would enable people to use it more as a proper decision making tool. Just my two cents. I think you have a great idea working here.
I used to do a weighted rating system like you described. It just took too long. This is 100% subjective and my viewers understand that. I do a mix of subjective and objective and I try to make it clear what is what. Watch the first video I ever made around the 9:36 mark. czcams.com/video/PGOQRsnI9Ak/video.html
The speaker sounds better in a bigger room space than on the desk, when it was on the desk it had too much base for some songs. That is just from your demo. So not sure if it is a room thing. Thanks for the demo
They sound quite different between a desktop setup and living setup! Living sounded alot more lively and engaging. How do you think these would compare to Denton 85s in a desktop setup?
@@joentell thanks for your swift reply! To be honest a bit of noise is not a deal breaker to me, as long as it's killed by the music. But I can imagine it could be annoying when sitting at your work desk if the Fives are your close friends! But they aren't really the sort of company you would keep in that way, surely? I can imagine some small Kantos, not the Fives.
JOE!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahah, amped (amped, eh!?) up the presentation!! Back on your channel man, this is fantastic haha. Going full Jony Ive. Though this could make a great demo reel for Apple WWDC product presentation videos.
Best review of The Fives I've watched on youtube. Thanks for the great review and sound demo. What speaker stands are those in the Living Room sound demo?
Thanks for that review. I am not more informed. The hiss you mentioned when it is close by on desk is a big turn off for me. Now, I am not sure if I will buy those speakers anymore
Fantastic review. Absolutely loved the playback sound tests at various distances. Was in the market for upgrading from a basic sound bar. Was thinking of buying a Dolby Atmos Sound Bar but am now tilting in this direction. How are they for watching movies? Specifically from a dialogue perspective. Listening to dialogues especially when there is a lot of other sounds in movie scenes (especially action scenes)?
Hey Joe, I love your Channel. I was breaking down some boxes and wanted to ask what you do with all the packing material, and boxes from the speaker and components you recieve. Do you throw them away? Save some to send it back, or have a room where it's all piled up? I would love to hear from you, thank you
@@joentell Appreciate the insights! 🔥 Know it’s got enough bass but did adding the sub actually help clear/make the the mids/highs better? Curious if adding a sub does indeed help improve voice clarity during movies/shows and if it matter how “good” of a sub it is ($200 vs $500) if bass isn’t the reason for pairing it with a sub
@@joentell Good deal, thanks much for the prompt response! Ordered The Fives and just going to hold off on the sub for now and if the app isn't good enough to help with voice clarity during movies/shows then off to do more shopping 🎶
So I picked up a pair and wow, this is the definition of a plug and play fun pair of speakers. Easy for whole family to use also. But my question is, this is my first experience with what seems to be a active dsp speaker system. I have original la Scalas and pioneer HPM 900 but haven’t tried any dsp devices like minidsp or Dirac just yet. I’m curious if they can provide this kind of “active” type experience using dsp devices(with subs) to punch up their sound when not wanting purely flat or purist sound from those speakers? I can’t find many videos on comparing the engaging more immersive experience dsp seems to add, like my car must have active dsp because it has similar pop that the fives give me. Still learning in this audio journey but curious now since I can compare The fives against my various vintage gear and if similar can be achieved with whatever dsp? Keep up great work!
I have those for 3 days. the only way to make them sound precise is to use an equalizer( im really not a prof) cut off: 40 Hz -5.5 db, 63Hz -8db, 100Hz -4db. i do not even play around with higher frequency because i think its really perfect. ANOTHER good thing about the klipsch : with audi oinput digital the soundspeaker automatically turns "on". i really love that feature ! my specc before that was just an(logitech z906 amp with JBL control-THE BEST BUDGED DEAL!). but the klipsch make everything much bigger. even stereo sounds better than 5.1. *edit : 40 Hz -5.5 db, 63Hz -8db, 100Hz -4db, 1,6khz- 0db, every thing else after + 5 db.
@@joentell i forgot to say that all bass is turned down and off on the fives. first i must say : im really new to this audio " seriousness" i use just a software EQ APO1.21 with autostart windows 10.
Question: B and H has this speakers on sale today July 29th. I want to buy a subwoofer as well for those Heritage speakers. B and H gives me this option in the description underneath the speakers: “Klipsch Reference Series R-100SW 10" 300W “ Subwoofer as to be used with those speakers . However I found this other one as well on their website while looking around also from the same company which are way more powerful: Klipsch SPL-120 12" 600W Subwoofer (Ebony) So I’m not sure if I could buy the more powerful one for using it with the Five heritage speakers or if I should stick with the smaller one. I guess my question is , I don’t want to buy something that is not going to work with those speakers or that is too powerful for those speakers or something . I don’t know too much about those things
Hi Joe, Thank you for the awesome work ! Quick question, I'm trying to decide between Fives+Sub (like the Jamo to match the design/colour), or R-51PM+ 100W Kliptch Sub. I don't need the HDMI ARC port (as I'll be using Bluetooth or other streaming) + I like the design of R-51PM better. But what would you chose just based on sound features? Thank you in advance, Cheers !
Too much bass for me even swtiching down the bass and up the midrange/treble. Dynamic bass is off. Still struggling in the midst of boomboom... hearing classical number is even worse
Too many speakers go for that "show room" sound where more bass is always better. And I suppose for a large segment of the population it is, because people have been conditioned to think more bass = better quality. But that might be a deal breaker for me with these speakers.
@@Theoloop I'm on Amazon, just added used (Like new) Klipsch fives to cart for $370. How has your experience been using refurbished Klipsch Fives? Have you faced any problems?
Great review! I'm looking into buying these speakers to use long term, but I don't have a ton of space at the moment. Does the 12" height in the specs include the knobs at the top?
I definitely agree with the bass eq overpowering the tweeter. At lower volumes the eq has to be turned off depending on the song or tv show or you just sit there listening really hard for voices or turn it up even though the bass is already plenty loud for the situation.
At a desk, I would say you could save the $200 and go with the Vanatoo in that case. The Vanatoos have a shelf filter too in case you need to put them near a wall. The Fives don't have that option...yet. I think The Fives shine far-field even more so than near-field.
I really wish someone did the same type of in depth review for the sixes. Id also love a comparison of the two. But thanks for this amazingly good review!
I noticed that when you did the audible hiss test that you had the speakers on Phono. Why and is it because the hiss was only present in Phono mode and that was the only way for you to show us the hiss?. Just wondering. Thank you for the review. It was awesome.
The HDMI Arc slot is a feature that really attracts attention but leaving that aside, the Edifier S1000MKII speakers appear to be equally good speakers at less than half the retail cost.
Which one of those has HDMI ARC though? If I wanted to connect any of those to a new TV where the optical out doesn't change volume, and there's no analog audio out, and I don't want to use a separate remote, the only option would be an AVR. I'm sure you can rig up and HDMI audio extractor + Logitech Harmony remote, but it starts seeming like a hack rather than a solid solution for most people.
Mini DSP 2X4 HD has optical in and a preamp on the analog stage controllable via IR or an MCM electronics 50-8304 paired with a fiio D3 will substitute for an AVR. Options are there for remote volume control of studio monitors but there aren’t many.
I have the sixes and I want to know too, with the sixes doesn’t sound with Netflix via optical only if you pair Bluetooth, I think is because doesn’t have Dolby digital
Subscribed!!! Loving your channel, how much better do you feel the speakers are with a subwoofer? I was looking at the SVS1000Pro. It’s not about disturbing my neighbor or shaking the walls, it’s about “quality” of sound. Thanks for your input.
JOE. Pure artristry in every level. When you go into a channel that previews speakers. And then you are envy and proud of the structure, cinematography,content. JOE'n'TELL is a total underated gem in the CZcams ocean...Guys let's be honest. Lets share this guy and make him bigger.!!!
I appreciate the kind words! It motivates me to try to improve moving forward. 🙌
@@joentell YOU ARE HEAVEN SENT. MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE SETTING THE BAR LEVEL IN EVERYTHING.!!!
I’m SO glad I found this channel. I’m listening to this through my Fives, and I couldn’t believe how cool this left/right, near/far, deep bass demonstration is - thank Klipsch for including HDMI-ARC (I’m watching CZcams on my Panasonic flat-screen with HDMI-ARC out connected to The Fives HDMI-ARC in*) and thank you, Joe N Tell - your demo blew me away. This vid is three years old, and my Fives are about two years old, so I know the Klipsch iOS/Android app has had updates in that time. The only very minor quibble I have with the iOS/Android app updates is that they require a USB thumb drive, but I really should have had some USB thumb drives a long time ago, especially as even 32Gb drives are ridiculously inexpensive these days (Klipsch says you only need a 1Gb drive, but at current prices, why limit yourself?), so updating the Klipsch is a big incentive to get some. Can’t wait to see how (or if) the app is better now.
The reason I have The Fives is that I first bought a soundbar from Klipsch that turned out to be a dud; Klipsch sent me a replacement, which was also a dud. I called them, and they asked me if there was anything in their speaker line I’d like instead. I’d read a little about The Fives, and was especially interested because of the HDMI-ARC. I had no idea what the price was until last week when I happened across it online (found out they were about $200 cheaper back then, but still considerably more than what I paid for the dead soundbars).
*Big Question: I just bought a Denon DRA-800H 5.2 Receiver - it has 5 HDMI inputs, and 1 HDMI-ARC Out. Unless I’m totally misunderstanding HDMI ARC (from The Fives manual: “The Fives must be connected to the TVs HDMI-ARC output… in order to receive TV Audio.”) That would seem to leave my Denon receiver’s HDMI-ARC Out with apparently no place to go. Am I misunderstanding this? I have a “5 in, 1 out” HDMI switch (because I have more than 5 HDMI devices), but that doesn’t seem to do me any more good than the Denon receiver. With my Panasonic flat-screen’s ONE HDMI-ARC out going to “The Fives’” ONE HDMI input, I don’t know how to - or if I even CAN - put my Denon receiver in the chain of devices, ending up with all sound going to “The Fives”. Am I just thick in the head (my wife thinks I often am!), or is there a way around this? Hope you - or someone - can answer this.
Thanks for the great review!
Bart Brown
I love the speaker leaderboard. You have always tried to refine and improve your videos in new and informative ways. It is really a testament to your work ethic and professionalism that you don't ever get complacent.
I have to keep it fun/challenging for myself too. It can get repetitive if you don't.
Unquestionably the best product review i have ever watched. In a class by yourself in quality, clarity, thoroughness, information, unbiasedness and total overall class of presentation. Unreal. Keep it up as you clearly know what you're doing. 👍
🙏 This video took many hours so I appreciate you letting me know you liked it.
times a 100. the magazines are bullshit.
The sound demo is awesome, I cant imagine this any better. Serious level of review and great product.
Hey thank you for that! Glad you found it useful!
The bigger room adds so much quality sound - impressive!
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0:42 Overview
1:17 Things I Like
3:37 Features
12:16 REW Measurements
17:37 Speaker Leaderboard Ranking
23:08 Binaural Sound Demo
27:42 Thinks I Didn't Like
32:02 Outro
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I AM SO PROUD OF YOUR WORK.
It's great that none of the other reviewer's are mirrored during the profile of the products... Thanks
You seem to like to compare apples to oranges which nullifies all of your speaker placements save one. Powered speaker category you were dead on. The rest you hung yourself. So concidering your logic in placement is based on flawed thinking. I will concider Steve and Shaun to be light years more likely to be accurate. I do, however, like that you electronically graph the speaker and play them for us so I will continue to listen you you.
It would be much easier if I didn't force myself to compare each speaker in every category it would fit into. It's very easy if I'm comparing speakers that are similar in price and size. But what happens when a speaker like this comes along that is active? Should I NOT compare it to passive speakers. Just look through the comments and you'll see people are asking me to compare it to other passive speakers.
Sometimes easy isn't what's right and so people enjoy hearing me struggle to figure out the placement of a speaker on my leaderboard. My leaderboard compares speakers based on category, price, and overall sound. I'm the only one doing that. One speaker can place higher than another for a particular category, and lower in another column. So it may seem like "apple's to oranges" to you, but many people are asking me to rank my favorite fruit so I do. If you don't agree with my placement, say what you disagree with specifically so we can discuss it.
I strive to give viewers the MOST insight on my methodology, both subjective and objective, and therefore give viewers a chance to judge for themselves. I've seen other reviewers (no one specific) describe a speaker in certain ways that are the opposite of what the objective measurements say. When a tweeter shows a lower response compared to it's bass and midrange response, saying that it is "bright" isn't a matter of opinion, it's just incorrect. So it's hard for me to trust a reviewer who gets objective things wrong. Why would I guess at a frequency response when I can just measure it? I always found that odd when reviewers do that.
Anyway, people will have reviewers that they like and dislike. I'm just thankful for those who appreciate what I do. If you read through the rest of my comments, you can see that people appreciate different aspects of my reviews and that's ok.
I try not to watch or read any reviews of the same product until I am finished with my assessment.
Unlike other reviews of these spkrs you put in a lot of work, more importantly, You supplied test data like freq. resp. curves etc., Good review.
Thank you. I tried. Sometimes, I would rather not rush a review to be first. Instead, I try my best to value the viewer's time by providing as much valuable information possible in the shortest amount of time.
I love how you outlined the overview before you dived into the details! Sets a good tone!
I had to since this thing went 30+ minutes. Give people the opportunity to go to the part they want or leave if they don't like what they see. I respect people's time. ☺️
Klipsch definitely needs to be listening to the things you don't like. Those are important issues.
Nice review! Easily the most thorough that I have seen. I own a pair of these and really like them. I am using them with a sub which allows a bit more positioning flexibility and a extra degree of control. You are absolutely right about HDMI ARC being a game changer. I feel like I enjoy these a little more each day. Of course audio is incredibly subjective but I couldn’t be happier with the purchase.
I agree with everything you said. The only complaint is the app. I hope they put in an eq.
Hi, does the high pass filter mean you can just connect a sub and then you only need to adjust the sub volume?
Wow. I'm new to this world of speakers and sounds and i have to say that this is the best and most professional review i've ever seen of any product i've looked for. Thank you sir 😁
Thank you!
Love the new format Joe! You may be taking the spot for the best speaker reviewer on YT! I can't believe those REW measurements for bass! I have the SVS Prime Wireless which also have a 4.5 woofer, and they struggle to get below 50hz for me even up against a wall. They must be doing some kind of DSP wizardry!
I'm not sure how I feel about the DSP trend in these powered speakers lately. I guess they are going for mass market/soundbar killer like you said. If you're an audiophile, you probably already have an external DAC, are doing room EQ with REW upstream of the DAC, and don't need streaming, HDMI ARC, etc...
Thank you. Many of us who have been into this a while already have all of the components separately like you said. This is amazing for a novice though. Really awesome.
@@joentell Very true, it is a nice all in one package for sure.
Excellent review, thank you 🙏🏼 And how you described how kids poke tweeters, but this one will “poke them back”...pretty well adorable (and a great selling “point”).
HAHA! My wife laughed when she saw that part.
These speakers are great - i managed to get some, and it has changed how much fun i have listening to music and watching movies
As an owner of these beauties, I'd strongly recommend them. Detailed highs, massive base, and fantastic look. Absolutely dope!
Did you check the price at Costco? Any idea how The Fives compare to the Audioengine A5+? I'm thinking of replacing my Audioengine A5 from 2008. Do you know if the wireless circuitry is powered when you use a 3.5mm cable to the AUX input to provide the signal?
I agree with you. I've had mine for only a month, I've added a Klipsch Synergy Black Label 120 sub and wow it's like you are at a live concert with everything you play through them musically, (I have yet to use them to watch a movie or tv).
Can you tell me how big is your room?
Wish the Klipsch RP 600m had the same color woofer. That copper color takes some getting used to on the RP 600m. Maybe they will change it on the RP 600mII. LOL !! Great review, thanks.
That binaural demo was cool as hell.
Really Loved your Audio demo section with A/B - graphic overlay. That's some of the best I've ever seen. Kudos.
Hey... Thanks Kanga! I try. 🙏
@@joentell - It's really good. Not many others do this and the actual demo is so vital for customer knowledge / experience. ( get the right copyright free songs going .. or .. edit for 2 videos .. one will be review content.. another for demonetized listening)
Who thought 15 years ago the outcast speaker brand, Klipsch, would be moving this close to the top? I remember going into best buy and the Klipsch were not allowed into magnolias and the magnolias guys would laugh at then. Now, I bet the Klipsch would stand up to anything in there.
Hey, which brand was the top at that time
love the sound demo at the end. if one has good/great speakers the differences can be heard.
of course, added room eq is coming into play.
Great review my friend! Very helpful. If you ever want to sell your Fives, you have a buyer here.
Hey Joe, maybe on future reviews you could show off axis measurements and directivity plots, especially of speakers with waveguides. Thanks for the review.
I could, but man these videos are already getting long. I think a detailed measurement like you're recommending is better suited for a written review. The frequency response is already too much for some folks.
If you haven't seen Erin's Audio Corner, he does very thorough measurements.
Best speaker reviewer period!
I have the same issues with the remote.
They are a bit bright in a room and and bit dull on a desk. Might benefit from some toe-in adjustments in both setups.
Amazing review, very professional. thanks a lot
could you PLEASE give us a binaural sound demo of The Dinas. I'd love to get an idea of what they sound like.
Great review! And look at that top end... a neutral Klipsch speaker?! Finally!
Bass boosted for sure, but I'm hoping the updates to their Klipsch Connect app will allow the user to change the EQ to taste. As is, I think people coming from a sound bar (most with bloated bass) will appreciate what they get from these. I think that was their thinking. They figured more bass was a safer bet than too little bass.
Joe N Tell I’m just happy to not see a 6dB boost in the treble. Small wins. LOL
And, seriously, great review. I love the new format. I have been wanting to do something similar with the time markers. I just don’t know how to yet.
Keep up the great work. 👍
CZcams allows markers by using the format 0:00. You have to start with the 0:00 time stamp though for it to work though.
You better listen to the end. There's too much bass.
@@kohnfutner9637 It's funny to say that about 4.5" woofers but it's true. Someone from Klipsch reached out to me and said the ability to change EQ setting in the app IS coming. That's a big deal. I really hope they go all out and do some room EQ using the phone's mic.
Awesome and very detailed review! Keep up the good work.
Joe, I came in this channel and was a nice surprice. Thanks for your review
Great review JNT! Especially enjoyed the sound demo and your video/production of it!
One of the best reviews that I’ve seen. Especially your effort on passing the 3D experience when listening in a living room vs a desk. Thanks
🙏 Glad you liked it.
And Joe this is Pete also noticed a modified the crossover in that speaker system from the previous system that swine the Twitter is no longer is Harsh modifying klipsch speakers for a while now the Crossovers can be modified to change the quality of the sound and just changing a couple of the capacitors can get rid of the hoarseness of the horns and I've done that for many of my friends
The sound demos are hands down awesome😁... If you'll do this exact thing with every future speakers you'll review, it will create a nice database for comparing speakers...
Thanks! The problem is that I'm constantly improving the process so it will be hard to do a good A/B comparison between videos until I get everything set up to my expectations
Great review. Might consider buying these after seeing your review.
Best sound demo on the Klipsch 5 👍thank you and 4 me not the ones the sound is not mine about I sit to close on a long distance they sound great 😃
Talking about the feel of the speakers is good to talk about. Loved the video.
Thanks B! You're everywhere lately. I think @technodad mentioned you.
@@joentell I just saw that. Good dude. I got the Vanatoo T1E to try out. I think they will look good on my desk. What u think?
They look premium for sure.
@@joentell but do they sound premium? Lol. I saw they were just under the fives.. I didn't like the wood finish for my desk.
I like bass and The Fives have more of it. The T1E are no slouch, but there's a difference
Btw I LOVE these textures on the front; that bed liner look is just YES. Dude.
Nice review, thanks. I don't have a lot of experience in hifi system because previously I don't really listen to music at home, but I am changing a bit. I just got a couple of echo shows and really love to be able to just say "Alexa play foreigner" or other classic rock. With Amazon music and over 75 million songs, its a win. I just got back from Costco and bought the Fives in black for 499 and the Klipsch R-12SWi sub for 229, both were on sale, 800 out the door with tax for both. All i can say is WOW, Now i am worried about neighbors getting annoyed,lol. The sound is truly amazing and you can really feel the sub. I don't know if i will ever hook them up to my technics receiver since all the classic rock i love is available buy saying Alexa play Boston.
Late to the party...THE FIVES vs Homepod...which one would you choose?
Other reviewers also mentioned this issue. Too much bass seems to be the common issue for these dynamic EQ design similar to Boss.
Joe, I can tell that you really know technical stuff. You lost me but I get it. Watching you is a learning experience.
Yeah, sorry about that. 😊
Just got the Kanto yu6 and stands, love them, these are something I could consider on the future if I upgrade
Great for music and acceptable for tv dialogue
Still enjoy my Samsung Soundbar with sub and rear speakers for tv but I think the Kantos my be better than the Soundbar on it’s own
The Kantos would beat most sound bars I've ever heard/reviewed.
I think if I knew what I know now I’d have started with a 3.0 system and build up, but soundbars are great for people who don’t want speakers on show
Kantos great for my bedroom
awesomeness now the waiting game begins - just purchased
Loved that sound demo! Thank you for the great review!!!
My pleasure!
Thank you for referencing your voice and clapping before the demo ♥
got these on amazon for a great deal. after coupons discounts and rewards money i only paid $388 for these. I am a bass head and so these will be perfect for me. im not after audiophile sound. i want ridiculous bass in the smallest footprint possible. the deep bass extension is crazy for a 4.5 inch woofer. these almost go as deep as the edifier s1000mkii. they have a 5.5 inch bass driver and while they go deeper its only slightly. i just had the swan D100 and they dont do shit under 55hz and they have a 4 inch woofer. the fact that these can get into the 30s is nuts. I will be using these at work at lower volumes and so that dynamic bass adjustment at lower volumes to still get a full deep sound is why i was so interested in them. they come tomorrow. i should take them home and compare them to my S3000 pros just for the hell of it. they might not be that far off. s3000pros still will probably be more powerful and extend deeper. they can easily dig under 30hz. but for the size of the fives they might hold up well
Let me know how it goes
Thanks for the video! How brilliant is the Klipsch marketing campaign through CZcamsrs! Very well played with "The Fives". Bravo! Klipsch does not need to pay for advertising, they just have to send their products to CZcams channels (that we trust or we did trust) and that is all. It is a shame that almost nobody talks about the flaws or weak points of "The Fives". It's terrifying that almost no one talks about how overpriced and overrated these speakers are. That ARC connection seems to be the panacea for audiophile CZcamsrs. Everything we always wanted. The single thing we were all dying for. Seriously? It kills me that no one has the balls to seriously propose alternatives, that could be better and even cheaper choices than "The Fives". And you know there are, probably not many, but Is everyone that afraid to tell? Are CZcamsrs scared of not receiving Klipsch products anymore? It's sad. The fewer followers a channel got, the more honesty you can find. They speak freely because they do not have the pressure from the manufacturers. The moment the brands put an eye on the channel, at that moment you can stop trusting 100% of its reviews. A little reminder to CZcamsrs; do not forget who supports your channels, not the brands but us. Many CZcamsrs remind us that they have not been paid for the review. However, they receive the products from the brands. Therefore, they have to talk about those products carefully if they want to keep receiving more products to create content. Luckily, there are still HiFi stores (if you have a good relationship with them and if the margin from Klipsch is not much higher than the other brands for the store) that will be more unbiased. We want the truth, not what a brand tell CZcamsrs to say. The best from a CZcams Channel is in its beginnings when it is more genuine and less biased. At some point (when the channel gets bigger and bigger) it seems that all the reviewed products are amazing and incredible. There are no wrong or mediocre products anymore. This is something all viewers should think of. I can't remember the last time I saw a CZcams channel complaining about the product they are reviewing or at least demanding and improvement to the manufacturer. Best regards.
Please review The Klipsch Sixes
What are the major differences between the 5 and the 6?
DSP + HDMI ARC
@@joentell so both speakers are pretty much identical but because of DSP they sound different right?
@@joentell Hi Joe, I watched your YU6 and Diamond 12.1 reviews back and force from your SpeakerLeaderboard and tried to decide which one is better for my 12x10 dining room. My budget is $500 and main usage is 70% Classical/ 30% Jazz vocal. Which one do you recommend? Can I also add Klipsch The Sixes into my consideration too?
I haven't reviewed the Sixes, but I would imagine they sound very different
What a fantastic overview. Informative, incredibly well presented and thorough. You have a new subscriber!
Sound demo was brilliant. Very professional review-Joe could be the spokesperson for Klipsch!
I like to think I'm a spokesperson for awesome products in general regardless of the company. The Fives were so good, I felt the need to make a video to match the quality and the effort put into making those speakers.
I'm happy you liked the sound demo.
Thank you for the demo!
I like the concept of the rating system you use. It would be better if it was dialed in a bit more to take out some of the subjectivity or random ranking/placing. If you set up your criteria, then gave each one a weight (this shows how important that criterion is), then gave them a ranking for each setting and each amp. You then multiply the two together and sum the total so you have an EXACT number for your overall score. This way you have a score that is set for time instead of saying "well I maybe this and maybe that so I maybe I will stick it here". This is fine but maybe next week you would stick it somewhere else. Also, you or someone else can look back at the detailed reviews and know where the numbers came from and why. Right now it is still ambiguous. I think you have a great idea/concept that would be amazing if you cleaned it up a bit which would enable people to use it more as a proper decision making tool. Just my two cents. I think you have a great idea working here.
I used to do a weighted rating system like you described. It just took too long. This is 100% subjective and my viewers understand that. I do a mix of subjective and objective and I try to make it clear what is what.
Watch the first video I ever made around the 9:36 mark. czcams.com/video/PGOQRsnI9Ak/video.html
This was very informative. I was especially looking for the subwoofer crossover out point (80hz) which is not mentioned in Klipsch literature. Thanks
Nice new format, Mr. Tell.
The speaker sounds better in a bigger room space than on the desk, when it was on the desk it had too much base for some songs. That is just from your demo. So not sure if it is a room thing. Thanks for the demo
They sound quite different between a desktop setup and living setup! Living sounded alot more lively and engaging.
How do you think these would compare to Denton 85s in a desktop setup?
The headphones demo 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾 i would have loved a video game sound demo
Incredibly thorough review. Such a lot of work, thank you. Did you notice the hiss when music was playing in a living room setting?
I did not notice any hiss from a distance. Up close, yes. Thank you for the compliment. I'm glad it was helpful.
@@joentell thanks for your swift reply! To be honest a bit of noise is not a deal breaker to me, as long as it's killed by the music. But I can imagine it could be annoying when sitting at your work desk if the Fives are your close friends! But they aren't really the sort of company you would keep in that way, surely? I can imagine some small Kantos, not the Fives.
@@adamswift1747 hiss is one of my pet peeves for powered speakers and I don't remember these having obvious issues
JOE!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahah, amped (amped, eh!?) up the presentation!! Back on your channel man, this is fantastic haha. Going full Jony Ive. Though this could make a great demo reel for Apple WWDC product presentation videos.
Thank you!!! I worked hard on this one because I felt like the product deserved it.
@@joentell Simply awesome
Best review of The Fives I've watched on youtube. Thanks for the great review and sound demo. What speaker stands are those in the Living Room sound demo?
I think those are from Kanto
You have speaker reviews for the common fellow, on lock. Thanks for the input ;)
great stuff. really liked the room comparison
Thanks for that review. I am not more informed. The hiss you mentioned when it is close by on desk is a big turn off for me. Now, I am not sure if I will buy those speakers anymore
Fantastic review. Absolutely loved the playback sound tests at various distances.
Was in the market for upgrading from a basic sound bar. Was thinking of buying a Dolby Atmos Sound Bar but am now tilting in this direction. How are they for watching movies? Specifically from a dialogue perspective. Listening to dialogues especially when there is a lot of other sounds in movie scenes (especially action scenes)?
I would imagine you would have considerably more on a sound bar to equal the sound quality of these. Vocals are awesome!
@@joentell which means their description of being “Soundbar killers” is true.
Thanks for your quick response!
its possible use with the app one preset for voices, also another option cinema 400, 600 , 800 and 1200 depends of your budget
Great review 👏 . Love these speakers ❤️
Love your videos!
Hey Joe, I love your Channel. I was breaking down some boxes and wanted to ask what you do with all the packing material, and boxes from the speaker and components you recieve. Do you throw them away? Save some to send it back, or have a room where it's all piled up? I would love to hear from you, thank you
Could you do another review about connecting the Klipsch the Fives to 2-3 different Subwoofers? Thanks
I want to try it with the SVS 3000 Micro I have in, but they already have more than enough bass in the room they're in.
@@joentell Appreciate the insights! 🔥 Know it’s got enough bass but did adding the sub actually help clear/make the the mids/highs better? Curious if adding a sub does indeed help improve voice clarity during movies/shows and if it matter how “good” of a sub it is ($200 vs $500) if bass isn’t the reason for pairing it with a sub
@@cyberc0l0mbiana I haven't tried that on a permanent setup, but if the Klipsch Connect EQ app can help significantly.
@@joentell Good deal, thanks much for the prompt response! Ordered The Fives and just going to hold off on the sub for now and if the app isn't good enough to help with voice clarity during movies/shows then off to do more shopping 🎶
Hey Guys, Anyone got an update on the Equalizer app for the speakers ??
So I picked up a pair and wow, this is the definition of a plug and play fun pair of speakers. Easy for whole family to use also. But my question is, this is my first experience with what seems to be a active dsp speaker system. I have original la Scalas and pioneer HPM 900 but haven’t tried any dsp devices like minidsp or Dirac just yet. I’m curious if they can provide this kind of “active” type experience using dsp devices(with subs) to punch up their sound when not wanting purely flat or purist sound from those speakers? I can’t find many videos on comparing the engaging more immersive experience dsp seems to add, like my car must have active dsp because it has similar pop that the fives give me. Still learning in this audio journey but curious now since I can compare The fives against my various vintage gear and if similar can be achieved with whatever dsp? Keep up great work!
I enjoyed your review!!!. Now I'm thinking of buying these.... you earn my sub!!!!
🙌 I'm still impressed with these to this day!
I have those for 3 days. the only way to make them sound precise is to use an equalizer( im really not a prof) cut off: 40 Hz -5.5 db, 63Hz -8db, 100Hz -4db.
i do not even play around with higher frequency because i think its really perfect.
ANOTHER good thing about the klipsch : with audi oinput digital the soundspeaker automatically turns "on". i really love that feature !
my specc before that was just an(logitech z906 amp with JBL control-THE BEST BUDGED DEAL!).
but the klipsch make everything much bigger. even stereo sounds better than 5.1.
*edit : 40 Hz -5.5 db, 63Hz -8db, 100Hz -4db, 1,6khz- 0db, every thing else after + 5 db.
What do you use for an equalizer?
@@joentell i forgot to say that all bass is turned down and off on the fives.
first i must say : im really new to this audio " seriousness"
i use just a software EQ APO1.21 with autostart windows 10.
I see. I wish they would update the app to allow the EQ to be adjusted internally
Brilliant video editing and sound recording
Question: B and H has this speakers on sale today July 29th. I want to buy a subwoofer as well for those Heritage speakers.
B and H gives me this option in the description underneath the speakers: “Klipsch Reference Series R-100SW 10" 300W “ Subwoofer as to be used with those speakers .
However I found this other one as well on their website while looking around also from the same company which are way more powerful: Klipsch SPL-120 12" 600W Subwoofer (Ebony)
So I’m not sure if I could buy the more powerful one for using it with the Five heritage speakers or if I should stick with the smaller one. I guess my question is , I don’t want to buy something that is not going to work with those speakers or that is too powerful for those speakers or something . I don’t know too much about those things
Hi Joe,
Thank you for the awesome work !
Quick question, I'm trying to decide between Fives+Sub (like the Jamo to match the design/colour), or R-51PM+ 100W Kliptch Sub.
I don't need the HDMI ARC port (as I'll be using Bluetooth or other streaming) + I like the design of R-51PM better.
But what would you chose just based on sound features?
Thank you in advance,
Cheers !
Too much bass for me even swtiching down the bass and up the midrange/treble. Dynamic bass is off. Still struggling in the midst of boomboom... hearing classical number is even worse
Joe, thank you for the review. One thing that drives me crazy is that the Fives constantly turns themselves off.
Yeah, they go into a standby mode right?
Too many speakers go for that "show room" sound where more bass is always better. And I suppose for a large segment of the population it is, because people have been conditioned to think more bass = better quality. But that might be a deal breaker for me with these speakers.
What klipsch sub model would you recommend that compensate the Fives? This will be for regular size room set up. Thanks!
got the klipsch spl 100 and they work great with them.
What speakers would you buy instead of the fives?
Just picked these up used in great condition for 475. Can wait to hook them up. Feature set is awesome.
From where did you buy it?
@@rehansheikh46 eBay!
@@Theoloop I'm on Amazon, just added used (Like new) Klipsch fives to cart for $370. How has your experience been using refurbished Klipsch Fives? Have you faced any problems?
@@rehansheikh46 mine were just used. Not refurbished, so I can't vouch for Amazon. They work great though. No complaints.
@@Theoloop Mine are used as well. Thanks for the info though.
Any word on the EQ app? Great video by the way!
Where are the edifier S3000pro on your leader board and compared to these?
Great review! I'm looking into buying these speakers to use long term, but I don't have a ton of space at the moment. Does the 12" height in the specs include the knobs at the top?
I definitely agree with the bass eq overpowering the tweeter. At lower volumes the eq has to be turned off depending on the song or tv show or you just sit there listening really hard for voices or turn it up even though the bass is already plenty loud for the situation.
Let's see what the can do with that app.
Hd600 headphones ready to go.
Nice! But too expensive for me.. so sad.. any alternatives?
The Fives or RP-600M with a Yamaha stereo receiver R-S202BL?
also wondering about that...
@@troywalt4834 What did you end up with?
May I Ask Which Brand And Which Style Of Bass Is Better?(Without Subwoofer)
Mainly Use Desktop +42 C2
Is the sound quality worth $200 more than Vanatoo T1E for home office desktop setup where HDMI arc is not needed?
At a desk, I would say you could save the $200 and go with the Vanatoo in that case. The Vanatoos have a shelf filter too in case you need to put them near a wall. The Fives don't have that option...yet. I think The Fives shine far-field even more so than near-field.
Joe N Tell awesome! U r the best budget-friendly audiophile reviewer out there.
I really wish someone did the same type of in depth review for the sixes. Id also love a comparison of the two. But thanks for this amazingly good review!
I haven't heard The Sixes, but I think a big difference is HDMI ARC and The Fives' use of DSP to get the most out of the system.
Darko did
I noticed that when you did the audible hiss test that you had the speakers on Phono. Why and is it because the hiss was only present in Phono mode and that was the only way for you to show us the hiss?. Just wondering. Thank you for the review. It was awesome.
The HDMI Arc slot is a feature that really attracts attention but leaving that aside, the Edifier S1000MKII speakers appear to be equally good speakers at less than half the retail cost.
Can you think of a way to mount these to the sides of a TV on a swing out mount? That ability is attracting me to a soundbar.
Sometimes, a soundbar is appropriate
Loved the Fives in the store, brought them home and was disappointed, am I doing something wrong? Tried Bluetooth, phono and cd
Suggestions for Active/Powered bookshelf speakers to also review:
Swan M3 / M5
Edifier S3000Pro
Yamaha HS8
Salk PowerPlay
Adam Audio A8x / A7x
Dynaudio Xeo 20
Neumann KH 120
Kef LS50 Wireless
Focal Shape 65
Buchardt a500
Which one of those has HDMI ARC though? If I wanted to connect any of those to a new TV where the optical out doesn't change volume, and there's no analog audio out, and I don't want to use a separate remote, the only option would be an AVR. I'm sure you can rig up and HDMI audio extractor + Logitech Harmony remote, but it starts seeming like a hack rather than a solid solution for most people.
Mini DSP 2X4 HD has optical in and a preamp on the analog stage controllable via IR or an MCM electronics 50-8304 paired with a fiio D3 will substitute for an AVR. Options are there for remote volume control of studio monitors but there aren’t many.
Hi! I must ask, between those speakers and the Klipsch The Sixes. Who sounds better?
I have the sixes and I want to know too, with the sixes doesn’t sound with Netflix via optical only if you pair Bluetooth, I think is because doesn’t have Dolby digital
Subscribed!!! Loving your channel, how much better do you feel the speakers are with a subwoofer? I was looking at the SVS1000Pro. It’s not about disturbing my neighbor or shaking the walls, it’s about “quality” of sound. Thanks for your input.
Wow, very in depth review!