Kemper vs. Mooer Preamp Live | Profile vs.Tone Capture?

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  • čas přidán 18. 11. 2018
  • I cloned myself and did a little shootout of the Mooer Preamp Live and the Kemper in regards to its tone capture.
    This is what happened.
    Signal chain: Suhr Reactive Load into RME Babyface Pro into Presonus Studio One.
    Background music by Lubo: / @lubo2260
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Komentáře • 140

  • @rangerdoc1029
    @rangerdoc1029 Před 5 lety +36

    finally some comparisons of the Mooer! I really want to hear this thing up against the HX Stomp, which is more the same target audience. Mooer & Joyo are simply crushing the gear market.

  • @guitarguru1758
    @guitarguru1758 Před 5 lety +2

    Great video - you sincerely deserve more subscribers..... and you just got one here. Good stuff.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Thanks mate. It's greatly appreciated

  • @britsy13
    @britsy13 Před 5 lety +2

    im just here for the sick playing bro, mad skills you got there!

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Thanks bro, it's greatly appreciated

  • @migueldeoliveira9057
    @migueldeoliveira9057 Před 4 lety +2

    Parabéns pelo video Niki - Realmente o Mooer surpreendeu!

  • @markclinebell7671
    @markclinebell7671 Před 4 lety

    Thankyou! Well thought out and very clear. 👍🏻👍🏻😎

  • @sandyturner1911
    @sandyturner1911 Před 5 lety +3

    The Mooer is pretty amazing. Thanks!

  • @ZeroMod
    @ZeroMod Před 5 lety +2

    Beautiful work on this video!
    As a gear head, I try and keep looking in at what's happening even tho' I am overstocked
    as is on gear for my needs. I certainly take the Mooer "more" seriously after your comparison.

  • @punkpop101
    @punkpop101 Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing video and audio quality.

  • @angelonofretti2977
    @angelonofretti2977 Před 2 lety +2

    Currently using the mooer for live shows and rehearsals and no joke 100% of the time when other musicians / engineers listen to my band they ask the same question
    Hey man that sounds absolutely great! Which Amp are you using?
    Then I show them the Preamp Live and they go totally crazy (specifically after knowing the price)

  •  Před 5 lety +1

    Great video!!!

  • @Raonybarreto
    @Raonybarreto Před 5 lety +2

    Great work brother!

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      thanks Raony

    • @Raonybarreto
      @Raonybarreto Před 5 lety +1

      I hope watching more news videos from your channel. Keep doing this great work brother.

  • @MightyDarknutPR
    @MightyDarknutPR Před 5 lety +2

    Could you share the tone capture of the Victory Kraken for the Mooer Preamp Live PLLEAAASSEEE? I've been looking but I can not find one! Thanks and Happy New Years

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +3

      Hi Chris, yes definitely will do it. probably capture the victory sheriff and the duchess as well. cheers mate

    • @kristofferleecampbell4103
      @kristofferleecampbell4103 Před 4 lety

      Did you end up doing these? Cheers!

  • @DizzyKrissi
    @DizzyKrissi Před 5 lety +1

    Good video - thanx for sharing.

  • @andacyesilyurt
    @andacyesilyurt Před 4 lety +3

    Can you capture a tone from kemper by using mooer? Is it possible?

    • @mghecea
      @mghecea Před 4 lety

      Why not ???

    • @1analist
      @1analist Před 4 lety

      I guess so. I´m sure the Mooer GE300 can: czcams.com/video/3qlu88doz1Q/video.html

  • @GaBeSBR
    @GaBeSBR Před 10 měsíci

    A question... Since you use the 4 cable system, it's not possible make a capture of older amps like a Fender Princeton, right?

  • @loomer3473
    @loomer3473 Před 5 lety +1

    Have you done anything to the volume or eq to the tracks? They both sounded good but the Kemper didn't quite pierce through the mix as the mooer did.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      I did just the usual low cut but besides that it's pretty much flat on the eq.

  • @BinFrost
    @BinFrost Před 5 lety +1

    Great comparison

  • @danc3746
    @danc3746 Před 4 lety +1

    The tone capture is very impressive and will get you 95% there, tweak away for the other 5%. The only issue I have with the tone capture is that you need to save the capture on the same preset you are working with. So if you liked the stock JCM900 preamp and used it for source in capture, you will lose that JCM900 stock preamp when you save the new tone capture. I wish this unit gave me some empty banks to save to so I didnt have to save over the original loaded preset.

  • @arbitermatt
    @arbitermatt Před 5 lety +23

    Both sound awesome to me!

  • @cleftturnip7774
    @cleftturnip7774 Před 5 lety +30

    Jamming with all your friends.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      thanks

    • @joshmuz9018
      @joshmuz9018 Před 5 lety +1

      Just realised...thought one on right whole time was a female

    • @stringbutcher201
      @stringbutcher201 Před 4 lety

      @@joshmuz9018 This comment reminds me of high school. It took forever to get out of that damn locker. 🤔

  • @chasecobb1185
    @chasecobb1185 Před 5 lety +1

    Would you be able to share the tone capture file for the Preamp live?

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      definitely will do and capture more awesome tones in the future

    • @chasecobb1185
      @chasecobb1185 Před 5 lety

      @@NikiIndjov You are a gentleman and a scholar

  • @Foxywaterable
    @Foxywaterable Před 5 lety +1

    Man excellent tones and playing! Really really top notch stuff!

  • @moiseslima1971
    @moiseslima1971 Před 5 lety +1

    muito bom irmao !!!

  • @a.monkey1275
    @a.monkey1275 Před 5 lety +2

    I listened with (studio) headphones and can't tell which you'd prefer for tones. Which *felt* better in dynamic feel?

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      As far as responding to natural dynamics they are both fairly good and transparent. For live gigs I would prefer the Mooer and for studio the Kemper.

  • @bettermetalsnake95
    @bettermetalsnake95 Před 3 lety

    Damn, I'm torn between the Mooer Preamp Live and the Strymon Iridium. Leaning towards the Preamp Live since it seems to handle high gain well.

    • @finnancahill2644
      @finnancahill2644 Před 3 lety

      Iridium sucks for high gain

    • @bettermetalsnake95
      @bettermetalsnake95 Před 3 lety +1

      @@finnancahill2644 I actually bought a Preamp Live since this comment. Definitely not regretting it, it sounds great already and I haven't even tried a tone capture of my Orange yet.

  • @FunkMauzz
    @FunkMauzz Před 5 lety

    the difference is in the Low mids , the Kemper sounds a lot fuller . Good video

  • @ArdiNugrohocilacap
    @ArdiNugrohocilacap Před 5 lety +2

    Awesome mooer
    Nice dynamic and clarity
    Like tube amp
    Great job,,

  • @bullZz24
    @bullZz24 Před 5 lety +2

    That "Prayer Position" drums tho hahahaha

  • @williandeoliveira5486

    muito bem feito o video mano muito bom👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @iganpparamarta8813
    @iganpparamarta8813 Před 5 lety +9

    The 'problem' is you're a damn good guitarist, and knows your way in adjusting all those knobs. You can just play with that guitar, DS1, SD1, into Peavey Bandit and still sounds good. Good review btw. Rock on

    • @leonhribljan8840
      @leonhribljan8840 Před 5 lety

      Peavey Bandit is m... fu....r with good pedals it is a beast...

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Hi Paramarta, thank you. It's greatly appreciated bro.

    • @joedean3263
      @joedean3263 Před 5 lety

      Peavey Bandits and a DS1 are bad ass for real!

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      @@joedean3263 Hi Joe, thanks for the feedback

    • @connectedonline1060
      @connectedonline1060 Před 5 lety

      Peavey bandids are badass

  • @andremellao4882
    @andremellao4882 Před 5 lety +3

    Kemper has more clarity, dynamics and less compression

  • @justinorprecio3094
    @justinorprecio3094 Před 5 lety +1

    ** subscribed

  • @arrakkis666
    @arrakkis666 Před 5 lety

    The Kemper has onboard effects I believe, which is a big plus IMO. The Mooer would be far more interesting if they had incorporated onboard effects.

    • @PippPriss
      @PippPriss Před 5 lety +2

      The Mooer GE200 basically is then your tool of choice. :-) has exactly what you describe.

    • @arrakkis666
      @arrakkis666 Před 5 lety

      But the GE200 doesn't do the tone capture does it?

    • @mghecea
      @mghecea Před 4 lety +1

      @@arrakkis666 The GE-300 does the whole shebang...

  • @gabrieloalgo
    @gabrieloalgo Před 5 lety +1

    Dude that Mooer is killer!!! Sounds awesome, has AAA features and I can fit it in my board?... Sadly no 9V operation tho....

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Thanks Gabriel. yes it's 12V DC but power supply is included.

  • @yourguitarist
    @yourguitarist Před 5 lety +9

    part of the problem with regards to the price of the Kemper, Ax Effects and Helix etc... is CZcamsrs with large followings (names withheld) doing daily videos on these devices with no real critical comments. They are essentially promoting these devices to the perfect target market. These companies could not ask for any better advertising. Personally I call shenanigans.

  • @drewderieux
    @drewderieux Před 5 lety +2

    Great video production, great playing and just great idea for showing off these two products. You are one of a few people reviewing the Preamp Live on CZcams who succinctly describes the tone capture feature, but as far as I know it doesn't sample anything from the gain stage. I think it only captures the EQ of an amp. Check Mooer's official video at 8:10 here:
    czcams.com/video/nylwk2IXw1Y/video.html
    Either way great job and keep up the good work.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Drew, thank you for your kind words. It's greatly appreciated mate. How I understand it is it analyses and blends the specific voicing /EQ of the gain stage with the internal preamp by advanced algorithms.

    • @drewderieux
      @drewderieux Před 5 lety +1

      @@NikiIndjov Interesting. What's confusing about the tone capture feature to me is when you are using the 4 cable method I thought that you are bypassing the preamp's gain stage. When I got my Preamp Live I went to town trying to understand it's tone capture feature and I'm still a bit fuzzy. Honestly, I think that the fact that it rocks so much is the main point and you have easily shown that here. I'm looking forward to your next video!

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      @@drewderieux Drew, with the 4 cable method you are bypassing the digital preamp section of the Preamp Live and you replace it with the analog preamp section of your amp. For example, you can use a digital preamp on channels 1, 2 and 4 and use the preamp from your amp's head on channel 3 by activating the FX loop.

  • @pauldavis3904
    @pauldavis3904 Před 5 lety +37

    That mooer is great. Its about time too kempers are yearssss old now. Still demanding big money. Then a company like mooer come along and destroy it and only ask for what, a fifth of the price...

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      thanks for the feedback Paul

    • @EulogyfortheAngels
      @EulogyfortheAngels Před 5 lety +4

      The age of the Kemper doesn't matter at all. Producers love it because you can't tell it's a profiler, especially in a mix.

    • @pauldavis3904
      @pauldavis3904 Před 5 lety +3

      @@EulogyfortheAngels hmm true, but i still find it hard to justify its lofty price/age ratio lol. I believe that with the rapid advancement this tech has seen since the kemper it should be reflected in its value.

    • @shysingh
      @shysingh Před 5 lety

      Big Difference between KPA and this tho .. no Spdif for reamping etc .. and effects .. but it’s a cool tool for a cheaper school

    • @pauldavis3904
      @pauldavis3904 Před 5 lety

      @@shysingh its an interesting discussion tbf. There is a big difference but the main issue is after 6 years. Does the kemper still justify the same price tag

  • @endoffate5475
    @endoffate5475 Před 5 lety +2

    You can put 12 preamps on it but you can choose from like 50..Not to mention the shared captures from other users..

  • @666tonsofsquirrels
    @666tonsofsquirrels Před 5 lety +8

    Actually think the Mooer sounds better here haha Much more defined. It's just a phenomenal product.
    Good video, brother. :D

  • @IPushHard
    @IPushHard Před 5 lety +1

    I'm sorry. What did you compare?
    You did a tone capture on the Mooer Live and then talked about the Kemper.
    ....and that's it.
    What the hell did I miss?

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety +1

      I compared the tone capture of the Victory Kraken to the profiled Victory Kraken of the Kemper.

  • @JungiOlympia
    @JungiOlympia Před 5 lety +1

    You profiled yourself.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Hi Sämi, yes I profiled myself but without a cabinet.

  • @kenmasters007
    @kenmasters007 Před 5 lety

    The way I understand is the Mooer has 8-9 predefined amps and does an EQ match to get it close as possible. While the kemper also secretly has base profiles and does a higher fidelity match using an impulse response & EQ match. You have to like Mooer's set amps if you are to like its tone capture since its a derivative of those tones. Both fail in emulating the dynamics and controls of a real amp post profile... Do a blind test next time with something with less gain :)

    • @depechex
      @depechex Před 5 lety +2

      False. Kemper doesn't fall into emulating the dynamics. I play live pretty much every Sunday with a Kemper and it's outstanding. Period.

    • @kenmasters007
      @kenmasters007 Před 5 lety

      @@depechex I said dynamics and controls... The master volume of some amps also add gain etc. So you will need more fiddling with the Kemper. I have one too and it's the best modeller/profiler out there but it is not perfect.

  • @monsterdual2973
    @monsterdual2973 Před 3 lety

    Head vs pedal ?! LOL

  • @lenruygrok
    @lenruygrok Před rokem

    mooer nails t, in price and quality !

  • @funkerrrr
    @funkerrrr Před 5 lety

    Kemper offered better transparency. Period. Both offered great sounds.

  • @britishpoprockplaylist8501

    Cort mbc Matthew Bellamy!

  • @MichaelDespairs
    @MichaelDespairs Před 4 lety

    Too random jam to be a good comparison.

  • @nevermindidontknow
    @nevermindidontknow Před 5 lety +1

    I don’t like both of the tones actually, my personal tastes. But the video is good, great work

  • @StormtrooperCylon
    @StormtrooperCylon Před 5 lety +1

    I hate digital amp modellers, BUT the Mooer shits on the Kemper. The Kemper sounds like a wet blanket

    • @JettyDeke
      @JettyDeke Před 5 lety

      See I think the Kemper sounds more clear with more definition for each note.... But for 1400 less USD the Mooer kills it for the price.

  • @sunnydeyaliofficial
    @sunnydeyaliofficial Před 5 lety +1

    Mooer needs a power amp,or cab simulator.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the feedback

    • @guildofgamefails
      @guildofgamefails Před 5 lety

      They do! The radar is an ir loading cab sim, which is built into the preamp live, and they have 20w tube power amps that pair with this 😁😁

  • @ray66antonio
    @ray66antonio Před 4 lety

    mooer is the best

  • @xSilencex_
    @xSilencex_ Před rokem

    Ese software de mooer
    Es el mas feo
    Lo mismo con el mooer radar, cuando sera el dia que mooer de algo visual que sea agradable de ver..
    Nux en eso le dio mil patadas a mooer en el nux mg 300 y demas
    Hermoso software
    Que te hace sentir
    Que tienes tu propia bodega virtual.
    En cambio mooer
    Nos tiene como en windows xp e incluso mas antiguo a este.

  • @donkeevney
    @donkeevney Před 3 lety

    Lol

  • @Leemuzhko
    @Leemuzhko Před 5 lety +4

    Kemper is still better imho.

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      Hi Alex, thanks for the feedback mate

  • @zawaxe123
    @zawaxe123 Před 4 lety +1

    Kemper for me
    Much more realistic pre amp

  • @jazzylei143
    @jazzylei143 Před 5 lety

    I prefer kemper. Preamplive is expensive. i would rather go for ZOOM MS50G.

  •  Před 3 lety

    The Preamp Live is a terrible product. It does sound good, but it is absolutely unreliable. After a week of buying it, it stopped working, luckily under warranty so I got it replaced. The new unit, after a year stopped working again. Unfortunately not under warranty anymore. I lost my money. I was able to record a couple of demos with it and that's all. Also, they stop developing the software. Don't buy it!

  • @yigitcitak
    @yigitcitak Před 5 lety +2

    Kemper !! Mooer sounds terrible

    • @NikiIndjov
      @NikiIndjov  Před 5 lety

      thanks for the feedback YİĞİT

    • @yigitcitak
      @yigitcitak Před 5 lety +1

      @@NikiIndjov you are welcome. I am really surprised everyone picks Mooer. We have to clarify 10x price does not mean 10x better sound folks

    • @PippPriss
      @PippPriss Před 5 lety

      @@yigitcitak but in the same sense, 10 x cheaper doesn't mean 10 times worse ;-) and that is a very interesting development.
      I have no comparison since I am watching this on my phone, so I cannot either agree or disagree with you.

    • @yigitcitak
      @yigitcitak Před 5 lety

      @@PippPriss exactly. When I said terrible I didn't mean 10x bad🤣 still useable but not pleasing sound. But this is my hearing.