My Ranking of Sienna's Weapons in Vermintide 2
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Coruscation staff
1:21 - Flamestorm staff
1:55 - Conflagration staff
2:40 - Beam staff
4:48 - Bolt staff
5:30 - 1h sword
6:10 - 2h mace
7:20 - Flaming flail
8:20 - Fireball staff
9:28 - Crowbill
10:32 - Flaming sword
11:35 - 1h dagger - Hry
I think conflagration deserves a little more credit. The ability to roast a horde or stun-lock a patrol with precision without having to worry about allies blocking LOS is very useful. Definitely more control than damage though.
Conflagration is literally her best staff on BW. You have huge horde destroying, staggering attack, yet ability to snipe specials from afar. It HAS damage, yes huge amount of utility. This guy is out of his mind lmao. Gotta love people repeating whatever is generally considered meta because other youtubers say so.
@@ipamat9127 Conflagration staff is definitely good in terms of CC, it's like the trauma staff for Darktide, except the trauma staff actually kills things while the conflag staff tickles things to death. It has unparalleled utility, this I agree on, but damage wise it is so outclassed that a fireball staff can stagger while doing more damage. Your 40s ult also exists and can easily melt a patrol and mixed hordes in a pinch dealing massive damage while staggering and giving you more time to reposition into a better spot, why control a patrol when you have a nuke on 40s cooldown?
In terms of C3DWONS, the conflag staff serves zero purpose as the entire point of onslaught is to kill things fast and efficiently, both which the conflag staff lack.
tl;dr It's a good staff, just outclassed.
Flaming sword with its super high temp health gen and stagger is just the perfect pair for Coru staff on BW. No need for Armor damage since you boil them all inside their armors with staff anyway.
11:45 The dagger applies far less fire dots than the flaming sword does, which is why the latter is generally a better pick for famished BWs in my opinion.
The dagger is still one of my favorite weapons as well though. The mobility and versatility it provides are outstanding.
"Nobody is gonna shit on you for running fireball staff". - JTC
An actual conversation I had today:
"Dude Sienna, chill with the teamdamage. You've done 60 damage to 2 of us" - me
"Get behind me" - Sienna
ngl i kinda wish he waited a bit to make this video so we could get a full version of this with the reaper and soulstealer :c
Bolt staff can one shot a chaos warrior if you have 2x 10% extra dmg vs chaos/armored on the staff
Which temp health talent would you run on flail for the classes that don't have access to the stagger one?
The one that gives you temp for passing through enemies
you forgot something about the flaming sword, the stagger from the sword is so massive. that you heal yourself up vs hordes so easilly. you basically keep the armored stunlocked and under burn damage. with the 150% burn damage perk on you're destroying those Armored guys too!
Im late but i just started playing her since necro came out. The flamesword looks so cool i havent even touched necro yet been stuck on BW. what combos should i be using. Ive been just spamming heavies since it looks coolest
@@SounddWavesslol you've got it figured out heavy 1 and then block cancel if you want to be optimal
Shame you need to buy the worst DLC to get the spear and shield for Kerillian, but TBH it doesn't matter all too much which weapon you pick so long as you have good traits and farts chosen.
"farts"?
@@miguelmialichi6367 yeah, you know. Farts, stuff, whatnot, etc.
@@miguelmialichi6367 It’s a dwarf thing
to the new coruscation staff have u a build with talents tahts good for it?
On Battle Wizard: 1-2-3-1-1-3
I believe BW makes the best use out of Coruscation with Famished Flames. She just does obscene amounts of damage to everything with it
On Pyromancer: 1-2-1-1-2-2
In my honest opinion, Coruscation is probably weakest on Pyromancer, but if you build run at high overcharge and then proc Deathly Dissipation by ulting a special, you can primary fire into anything for 10 seconds of free casting with high crit chance. That's how I'd use it.
On Unchained: 2-1-3-2-2-3
Coruscation is a monster on Unchained. It is inherently easy to manage overheat with it and keep her on high overcharge to then swap out and do beefy damage with her melee weapon. One of the best 3 staves to use on Unchained.
Famished Flames doesn't actually increase the dot damage of Coruscation for whatever reason. Lingering Flames just ruins the DPS of the staff which leaves you with Volcanic as the only viable option in that row. While it hardly provides any benefit, since you don't want to fully charge corus anyway, it at least doesn't do any harm like the other two options.
@@SmGTwist The shotgun blast primary fire with Pyro's high crit chance is absolutely devastating to elites. Pyro doesn't synergize well with the flame geysers, but that primary fire is all you need.
@@wundsaltz1114 famished does increase it actually. Coruscation has 3 dots and one applies when an enemy moves out of the fire. This one is affected by famished flames. I'd recommend that talent anyways just for the huge damage increase with firesword/firewalk.
@@sobbo123 so famished increases the fire dot applied by geysers, but not the damage of geysers themselves?
Flamestorm staff is fun to use even though I don't like it very much
I constantly run the Crowbill on Pyro and Unchained (i only play legend), because it just works well.
I tend to always play Support as Sienna, regardless of career, and I find that these two careers just shine immensely with the crowbill. At high levels of Overcharge, Unchained is dealing so much damage that every attack kills a mob, whereas Pyro is critting on nearly every attack and flailing her weapon like crazy, so it works.
Against Chaos Warriors and Stormvermin it melts them away.
I know that is a video of one year ago but is still valid? I want to try beam staff is still good?
Pretty much. Beam Staff with Famished Flames is a good boss killer, specially with the trait that increases power with consecutive attacks. You'll want to stick your beam for 4 ticks of damage, then right click and repeat. Or even ignore the right click and go for more beam DoT. However, there are better staves which cover multiple situations.
Something people underestimate about the Flamestorm staff is its stagger potential. You can stunlock Stormvermin or Maulers with the secondary fire stream and just slowly melt them, particularly useful in mixed hordes, as you can clear out the trash at the same time. Due to its effectively infinite cleave, it's stronger the more enemies you're facing. It has almost no super armor damage, and not great boss damage, but that's what teammates are for. (Although, a well-timed Strength potion will give you the armor penetration you need to solo a chaos patrol.) Flamestorm has one job, and it does it really well: lock down an area. Some good positioning will take a ton of heat off your team (and give it to the rats). It's my favorite Sienna staff, and the only major downside in my opinion is the fact that it reduces visibility so much. (Which is why you always, *always* spam tag while shooting out the firestream.)
That's kind of the beauty of a lot of the design of this game, is that all weapons are viable. However the downside of the design to this game is that there's lots of systems to account for. The Flamestorm excelling at something that all the party should be capable of as well as possibly denying your zealot, warrior priest, foot knight etc their temp HP gain could mean a lot. I've used drakefire ironbreaker, it's been good to absolutely hold a chokepoint when things are tight. But it could be argued that things wouldnt be as tight if they hadn't been able to get so close, you know? Ultimately it's the playstyle that works for you.
I’m fine with it in a pre made team but one of the issues with V2 game design is the necessity of temp health. Flame thrower actively takes easy health from your teammates.
@@Straddock Well...most weapons are viable. No one in their right mind would honestly want to pick Repeater Pistol nowadays.
I don’t know how Sienna performs on cata, but I am levelling battle wizard, 21 lvl for now, and I have no issues on legend with bots. No issues with hordes/patrols at all. Because if that I believe battle wizard is so op, probably will get nerfed in some way
I feel like battle wizard is basically meta. I haven't been able to do many cata runs recently but I've seen all of the sub classes do well. I don't play modded difficulties though.
Battle wizard is top tier. You picked a good character to level!
Due to all of these AoE options Sienna gets even stronger as the enemy density increases with higher difficulties.
BW is (one of the?) best careers for Cata and beyond. I think Bolt staff is also the only weapon which can reach all special body-shot breakpoints on Cata3 without external help (e.g. WHC tags). The tourney balance mod, which is often used in the modded realm, BW has been nerfed fairly signifanctly (e.g. the ult cooldown is far longer).
Beamstaff lowkey op, just for the record
Damn man now I am just self conscious about my Unchained 😭
I run crowbill and flamestorm staff to be aggressive, flamestorm lets me walk into hordes and Crowbill allows me to deal with elites pretty easily, it’s heavies are able to stagger really well even on things like chaos warriors
what perks do you use with that combo?
I would be proud, not self conscious. If you can do well with weapons that might not be the best, that just speaks for your abilities as a player.
Flamesword + bolt staff is my main go-to on BW, stagger everything then kill armored enemies with the bolts
+ you can still run famished, and kill specials/elites with bolt on classic cata and lower and deal damage w sword.
Bolt is okay for sienna but as soon as more options for special killing are introduced it just sorta dies. Handgun and crossbow is much much better on higher difficultys because of the lack of long ass channel time. Basically sienna has the worst special sniping so it's better to stick to massive dps. Bolt isn't bad but isn't super flexible especially in tight spots
I agree, it bugs me that Bolt staff gets so highly recommended all the time even though its a relatively subpar special sniping weapon compared to other characters while simultaneously stripping away Sienna's identity as a ranged character specialized in anti-horde damage. Its not as though Bolt staff is bad mind you, it does plenty of damage to kill specials and hammer at elites, but compare the charge time on the average Bolt Staff shot compared to Handgun/Crossbow just pointing and clicking and then reloading when its convenient, or Elf pointing her Longbow/Moonbow and letting loose a couple of arrows and Sienna lags behind quite a bit as you have to account for remaining charge time on top of your reaction time to start charging the shot. Its a last ditch special sniper for if you have a team of Trollhammers, GF BHs, and Hagsbane/Swiftbow Kerellians not a go-to for Sienna. Meanwhile, her other staves do so much better at anti-horde while also being just barely usable at special sniping save for Coruscation and Flamestorm (Her two best at anti-horde no less). If someone starts trying out Sienna like the other characters and uses Bolt staff and focused mainly on melee with occasional special sniping instead of focusing on what makes her unique and setting fire to large hordes with her other ranged staves and using melee to aggressively vent, then she's going to feel like a lackluster, sluggish version of everyone else instead of the fire crazy queen she is.
It's fine if you start charging as soon as you hear a special, or use rechannel for faster charging. Bolt staff scales better on higher difficulties (cata to cata3). It's used all the time in modded realm because it hits so many breakpoints easily that xbow/handgun don't. So you don't need to shoot twice and wont run out of ammo.
Crowbill is SO damn good. Easily top tier if you know what you’re doing.
How do you use the crow bill? Are there certain combos you use or is it the type of weapon you just spam click with for kills against armor?
Every weapon can be viable "if you know what you're doing". But in respect to every other weapon in Sienna's arsenal, the Crowbill is garbage.
Hmm not as much info as I hoped
Love beam staff since V1 I don’t see people mention it but if you hold down beam (right trigger) then pull the left trigger and it does like a high damage pulse good for taking out and stunning ratling gunners ect
Love the flaming flail 🔥
I love that staff just bc it has lots of versatility. Close range shotgun sustained damage with the beam and the sniper fire for high burst damage. Pretty fun staff.
I thought the mace was trash. Tried to get it to work with Pyro and UC but i can't . Am I missing something?
Flail is awesome but does get boring so currently I like sword and bolt on Pyro and Dagger with coruscation on UC. (With the talent that burning enemies have a chance to explode)
Late reply but I've been having a lot of fun with Mace on UC. Get cleave THP and the level 10 talent that increases attack speed at high OC, then get as much OC as possible with your staff (Coruscation is my pick) then go wild.
For Elites, Light and Heavy 1 are both downward swings that are excellent for headshots and with your power increase it will likely only take about 2 of them to kill most of the big boys, and it's also pretty easy to block reset it so it won't take too long (CWs will need 3 or possibly 4, I'm sorry I don't know the exact breakpoints).
For hordes, you can use Push Attack -> Light 2 > L3 > L4 and repeat for constant sweeping attacks with massive cleave on unarmored or Push Attack > repeated Heavies (Heavy 1 is the bonk but past that it will always repeat Heavy 2 > Heavy 3 unless you reset, which are also big sweeps for crowds.)
The only thing it's not really good at is bosses, you should use corus staff for those but at least with enough stacks of your passive you will still deal okay damage to them.
@@jpkurihara Glad you like mace. I did play with it a lot more and finally got the hang of it on UC and it is fun to bonk people/rats on the head. I'd probably still rank it pretty low though. Flail and dagger are both great and sword or firesword are great depending on the career. Mace is just a nice change sometimes for me.
@@LazzaRuss It feels like her most "balanced" weapon. It's not the best, but its less its fault and more the fact that Sienna's weapons are absolutely insane. Dagger and Flame Sword give you endless THP that will make you unkillable, Flail is one of the best weapons in the game, and I'm pretty sure the regular sword is decent, although I never used it. The mace doesnt really have anything outstanding about it, it's just "fun".
@@jpkurihara Yeah I like the sword on UC and pyro with the the extra attack speed. I find the flaming sword is a bit boring but sometimes I use it on UC with the burning enemies explode talent. Best weapon is the one you have the most fun with and mace is certainly fun. Bonk!