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I remember when I was in the US I was a officer cadet and wen my follow see man and I went to an bar they asked us for our ID strange what did they thing about a group of man with identical clothes we are children
I am Danish, 42. Alcohol and tobacco restrictions came in when I was already an adult. All my life, I could go and buy a bottle of vodka and a carton of cigerettes since the earliest of my childhood.
The "Schultüte" is a present from the family. I handcrafted (with help) my Schultüte at the kindergarden and my parents filled it with sweets, pencils and such things. I still have mine. :D
It hasn't been always like this. Originally it was invented in 19th century in Saxony and was a gift from a friendly headmaster to his pupils. Pointed paper bags (standard grocery packaging at the time) containing sweets and pastries were hung from a tree in the school yard and the newcomers were allowed to take one. That's one story. The other story, also connected to Saxony, says that the custom of the Zuckertüte goes back to the school reforms by Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon. Both were irritated by the humiliations children endured at school. So they got rid of the penitentiary hat (also called donkey hat, the pointet hat the KKK or Spanish penitents in processions use) that children had to wear as a punishment. Teachers had to learn to be merciful as God is merciful. As a result, the custom arose that on the first day of school (usually after Michaelmas) the donkey hat in school got filled with sweet cakes and cookies for the new pupils. In other regions you get a sweet pretzel (e.g. me in Hesse, a Brioche kind pretzel), which was supposed to symbolize the path of life or the letter B as next step after A. In later interpretations some people said, its the infinity sign, for infinite knowledge (or infinite stupidity).
As a German I can say that you definitely get homework on weekends 😄😅Schools that don't give you homework are special schools It was soooo funny to watch this video and the reactions😂😂😂
Yup, lots of homework on the weekend. I know a bunch of people who spend up to 15 hours on homework for weekends. Sometimes I heard stories from others who had only those homework-loving teachers, that they got homework due to the next day that would require like 10 hours of work to get done (just done, not well done). But that combined with going to school until 5 pm on most days is just impossible. (That statement in the video that school is from 8am to 1pm applies maaaaaybe to primery school... that's it. The rest has from 7/8 am to 4/5 pm! ) They should fact check some parts in the vid, cuz some are just wrong information right here.
Ist aber eigentlich so nicht wirklich erlaubt. Es gibt klare Regeln, wie viel Zeit Hausaufgaben in Anspruch nehmen dürfen und es gibt auch klare Regeln, wann Kinder z.B. darauf verzichten dürfen. Problem ist, dass der Stoff, den Lehrer vermitteln sollen, so umfangreich ist, dass es vorne und hinten nicht mehr ausreicht. Da kollidieren Vorgabe und Schultstoff. Theoretisch müsstest Du am Wochenende keine Hausaufgaben machen, weil die Lehrer gar nicht so viel aufgeben dürfen. Machen sie aber, weil ihnen nix anderes übrig bleibt. ^^‘
the time span in which you are in school actually differs from the grade you are in. 1-4 or 6 grade usually is around 8am-1pm as mentioned in the video but the older you get the more lessons you will have and the longer your days will be. i was in a gymnasium where my longest day was in 11th and 12th grade which was from 7:20am-4pm (with one free period). so as i said, it varies depending on your grade.
You just had lessons til around 4?? Oha du guter…Im in the 8th grade and have lessons til 4 and a the big brother from my friend is in the tenth and has lessons til 4:30 pm🥲
In Netherlands gymnasium was from 8:30 to 3:20 or 4:10 at the latest. And we had like 15 different subjects, with gaps in the schedule that you could use to do homework. I remember in year 4, out of 6, I had like 25 hours a week of classes and barely needed to do any homework, the workload was very light, although some of my thicker classmates did complain.
If you're wondering why in German a "Gymnasium" is a school that is meant to prepare you for university and in english it's a place where you work out: "Gymnasium" comes from the Greek word γυμνάσιον (Gymnásion), which was a place where young men trained both their bodies _and_ minds. English and German ended up focussing on different aspects of that.
@@slouberiee Yeah, also usually of better quality than the specialised schools. The students are usually better prepared for the universities but if they do not intend to continue studying, then they are as good as without the high school.
The 3 tier system made sense when it was introduced in the late 19th century because you needed workers and craftsmen (Hauptschule). You also needed clerks, administrative employees, secretetaries, etc (Realschule) and finally you need lawyers, doctors, scientists and other academics (Gymnasium).
@@lame7560 of cause we do, however there have been studies showing that putting together children with higher and lower affinity for learning enhances the learning effekt. Thats at least one of the many reasons I know of.
@@lame7560 They are still needed, the problem is that this system causes people to be restricted into what they can become later in life. It's around age 11/12 that it's decided for kids if they go to the Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium and only a small number of people knows at that age what they want to do later in life. Yet when they become old enough to enter the job market, the kind of school they went to literally dictates what kind of apprenticeship positions are open to them. There are ways to still get into higher education on a secondary path, but it sucks and requires you to do extra years of school. They should just get rid of this system and not railroad people intro professions when they are 11 years old.
@@roberthartburg266 The problem is that Hauptschule and even Realschule are seen as "lesser Schools" and since any parent would want for their child to be successful one day, the Gymnasium is the way to go And while the Gymnasium is very good at giving you a taste of what higher education feels like, the Hauptschule doesnt focus enough on practical stuff that you would actually want to teach them, just like you learn a secondary language in Gymnasium, the Hauptschule should offer courses for mechanics, craftsmen, whatever, teach them the stuff you´d teach them in the first year of being an actual trainee in the field Instead the Hauptschule is just a worse Realschule, and thus basically just frowned upon
Fun story about Latin: My cousin, who'd only ever learned Latin at school but not a single word of Italian, chose to go with the group that went to Italy for their graduation trip. He got on totally fine with Latin (cos Latin and Italian are so closely related). Also, you might have an easier time learning other Romanic languages (like French or Spanish) when you already know Latin because you can guess the meaning of a lot of words simply from knowing the Latin word.
Another fun story: I never learned Latin in school but in my later job training in a medical job I could guess a lot of the words from having learned French. :D
Latin is useful for all romance languages. Greek is obviously useful in Greece. Went there on a work trip for a weekend a few years ago and I was the only person who could read the signs on shops. Its also fun being able to understand the etymology of a lot of Latin origin words in English, Dutch, German and many other languages that arent romance language group, on top of it being easier to learn French or Spanish for example.
I went to a gymnasium in Germany and literally next to our school there was a Hauptschule. Our toilets have been super clean with toilet paper and soap but the toilets in the other school were gross, so what happened is that almost all kids from the other school would come over into our school and used the clean toilets. 😂
"Why would you want to learn Latin" Thats a great question and the answer is pretty easy. Latin is, for the most part, exclusively offered in schools that are geared towards higher education. The thing is: biological and especially medical terminology contains a LOT of Latin. If you want to study medicine in Germany, apart from needing an exceptional GPA, you either have to have had Latin in school OR take a mandatory Latin course additionally to your already very demanding course schedule. At least this was still true a decade ago.
But in the end these are all bad reasons. Actually more words in medicine are greek. :D And it won't help a lot that you had to study all the grammar. You could just study the words. I personally would say Latin is good to learn something about grammar and even improving the german grammar, because you study all the concepts and have to translate it into long german sentences. I also think it just trains the brain, a littlebit like logic. (But they could simply teach logic. Or programing, which nowadays would be better. Or other languages, too.) I like(d) Latin, but it doesn't make much sense to study it, unless you have fun to do so.
I had Latin in school and I really struggled with it, even had to repeat a class because of Latin. However, later when I studied french and spanish it made things sooo much easier for me because both languages are rooted heavily in latin
You also need to know latin if you decide to study languages or history...history for obvious reasons, languages because Latin is the base for a lot of European languages. Granted, you can do the necessary courses once you are in university, but, as you pointed out, that means that you have an extra-workload.
That's not the real reason tbh. Latin courses aren't actually about the language. It offers A LOT of history to learn that you often just gloss over in history classes (greek/roman period), and Latin in school is basically nothing more than really hard puzzle solving which really strengthens your brain and your ability to learn how languages are constructed. If you understand Latin and memorize much of it, you are basically given a headstart onto learning basically every other European language, it makes it a LOT easier and you can realize how much all European languages boil down to stemming from Latin. I'm sad that Latin as a school subject is dying out. It's so much more helpful than Spanish or French where 99% of students don't learn anything at all either besides saying Hello or "My name is X".
@@DonDadda45 So, let’s say it is easier to learn French after having learned Latin. But wouldn’t your French be even better if you had invested all that time and effort spend on Latin directly on French? And once you know one ‘Latin language’, wouldn’t that give you a similar advantage in learning another ‘Latin language’? And you’d end up with knowing two living ‘Latin languages’ instead of just one.
Hey man! Here is a short comparison of the grades you didn't get. Basically the grades go from 1 to 6 (first place is always the best, so having 1 as the best isn't that awkward from this perspective...), all marks (except the 6) can have a + or a - for slight tendencies, making 1+ the best and 6 the worst mark. Now you write down all marks from 1+ to 6 and count down from 15. Every mark gets a definitive number in the last 3 classes of school for the "Abitur" (some things can be said about this but it basically allows you to attend University), this makes it easier to calculate grades, averages, and points for your qualification and so on. It's basically for making things more transparent but I get your confusion: the shift between two systems is irritating. classes 1-10: classes 11-13: 1+ 15 1 14 1- 13 2+ 12 2 11 2- 10 3+ 9 3 8 3- 7 4+ 6 4 5 4- 4 5+ 3 5 2 5- 1 6 0
As addition. The 15 point system is when you are on a "Gymnasium" (nothing to do with sports) which is a school that gives you the degree allowing you to study on a college or university. For your degree, a certain amount of points from your classes and exams will be added and this will bhe trasnfered into the grade. For example: 609 points from at least 280 and a maximum of 840 points. The grade is 2.0 which is actually better than in the US. 2.0 would be a B but 609 of 840 are 72% which would be a C in the US.
I have been to Gymnasium and never questioned or even thought about this system. But hell it is stupid, why do we do it like that? Do we not trust people before 11th grade to be able to count to 15? And also since as you showed one system perfectly matches the other, why even bother to switch at all.
One point I'd like to add, you can always decide to get your Abitur, no matter which form of school you previosuly visited. I know plenty of people who came from Real- and even sometimes Hauptschule to attend the grades 10-12 and get their Abitur at my Gymnasium. It's just a little harder because in Gymnasium you're specifically educated to pass the Abitur, while other school forms don't have to fulfill that need
Age doesn't matter here either. My mother took her second go when she was 28 and told me about a 39 years old woman in her year that had two daughters that bith had their Abitur already, thus creating some funny scenes. The daughter once handed her mother her lunch, for example. The mother was laughing and told the story to the whole Kollege.
Well everybody who changed with best marks like almost 1 in everything from Realschule totally failed with worst marks of 5-6 after first Semester because we had much more stuff to learn and even more "Unterichtsfaecher". Maybe they could try in public gym with less to learn.
This school cone is also called sugar cone, is made by parents. Either in kindergarten or you buy them with the school bag. They are filled by parents, grandparents and godparents. With sweets and other small things for school
When they say "toilet" they don't mean the actual bowl (although I'm sure they are old, too) but the "restroom" or "bathroom" in general. Usually they are pretty run down with broken tiles, old stained faucet - and are being cleaned just once per day, so you can imagine how they look after a couple of hours. Gross. Nothing the school janitor can fix. They are in desperate need of renovation!
So true! I live in an eastern European country (which is seen under-developed most of the time) and despite where I travel to I´ll have perfect mobile connection, perfect online services, we had no issues during covid lock-down homeschooling...It´s insane how Germany is behind this digitalization stuff! Sometimes I´m literally nowhere in the woods and have full LTE+ but when I arrive in Germany I can bet that if I had to take the train/ drive through more rural areas my cell will be useless until I hit a city again...
@@kathawenzel8033 Yeah funny but not true though. I have full LTE deep within the thuringian mountainranges deep in the woods. So do not make stuff up oh and the trains usally have Wi-Fi.
8:19 if they hated you, they’d rather send you to the Hauptschule, as it’s perceived as the “lowest” secondary school. Or, well, they’d send you to Gymnasium because it’s the most difficult one
I remember having school till 3-4 PM almost every day. The school bus never drove at that time anymore, so I had to drive with one bus for half an hour into the city, wait for the next for half an hour, drive with that one for yet another half an hour to the bus stop closest to my home and walk another 20 minutes. So basically I got home around 6 PM, depending on delays and such sometimes close to 7... And homework still had to be done. 😑 Only sometimes my parents had time to pick me up.
"How do the kids get all these rights?" We give the rights to them so they can develop into happy adults, used to and trained in thinking for themselves.
Aber wieso erzieht man Kinder dazu, selbstständig zu denken und zu handeln, wenn sie es dann sowieso nicht mehr dürfen, sofern sie "das Falsche" denken? Dazu passt gut das Sprichwort: "Ich habe nicht laufen gelernt, um dann zu kriechen."
@@se7enhaender Worauf läuft das hinaus? Dass es mehr Geschlechter und Beziehungen als männlich, weiblich und hetero gibt, ist doch inzwischen bewiesen bzw. wahrscheinlicher als die Gegenthese.
"How you get those restricions in? Are the kids voting?" Kids in Germany are not voting, but they certainly have rights to get their opinion heard and to get involved in their schools affairs. In most schools there is a "Klassensprecher" elected in every class" - A child voted for by the majority of children, who can voice ideas and complaints of students to the teachers. There also is a "Schülervertretung - SV" elected by all students of the school, whom the headmaster and the teachers will invite to talks about things concerning the students and who will be listened to, if they propose change in school (like a Mensa/Cafeteria for the school). Sometimes this system works very well, sometimes not... Germany signed something called the "UN Convention on the Rights of the Child" an international contract signed by almost every country in the world - except the USA... This contract has to be reflected in German law and government. That is why children in Germany have a right to playtime: Article 31 "All children have a right to relax and play, and to join in a wide range of activities." In order to achieve this: No homework on weekends. And yes, children are asked their opinions and are given opportunities to lobby for their interests: Article 12: "Children have the right to say what they think should happen, when adults are making decisions that affect them, and to have their opinions taken into account."
@@mrac.. No, but we know our basic rights (Grundrechte), in 7th grade every child gets a Grundgesetz book, with basic human rights in it, and we learn about it in politics. Later, during Abitur/ A-levels you have social/political/economical science and there you learn everything about Europe, the political system, world wide politics compared to ours, etc. But in all honesty, most Germans want to know their rights, in order to stand up for yourself and to make fun of our lobbyism and bureaucracy. 😂
@@annaluciaschmitz what the hell? We didn't get the Grundgesetz! Maybe because of covid, we don't have a formelsammlung because of that either, but still! I want one too! And yes, I know that every citizen has the right to get one for free but im too lazy to do that!
Also a very important thing she didn‘t mention is that EVERY teacher has to have a University degree. No matter what class or subject they are teaching (yes, even sports or music class in 1st grade, not even a professional soccer player like Ronaldo could come in and just become a sports teacher if he wanted to). This is mostly (but not only) because they have to learn the educational part aswell. German schools also always have a „trust teacher“ who often doesn‘t even give classes but is just there to support children when they argue with their friends, have issues at home or even with teachers or their mental health. Everyone can go to them at all times and ask for help and they will provide you with solutions or have a word with the teachers if they treat children badly (the child stays anonymous ofc!). Usually you are in a group of 15-30 people who will have all classes together (some schools are different, but most have these strict classes that don‘t usually mix with others). If you feel uncomfortable or just want to change class, you usually can without any issues. Oh and homework on weekends are still given to the children, but not on vacation!
It also has disadvantages to have such high education standards for teachers. In the Netherlands we have a very similar system of education. We also have massive shortage of teachers for nearly all subjects. I would like to be a teacher, the pay is decent enough, you can work in your own town with no commute and I like children, I think theyre great fun to be around. But to become a teacher, I would need to get a bachelors and a masters degree in, for example, physics, Dutch or English literature, etc, and then go to a teachers school for an additional year to get certified. While with my knowledge I could teach at least Dutch, English, physics, math, geography, history, and economics at gymnasium level without any problem. I wouldnt even need to read the books. But I cant do that because of regulations and I dont want to or can afford to go to school for 5 or 6 years to get the qualifications. Hence we have shortages of teachers and classes are getting canceled all over the country because they cant find people to do the job.
Where I went to school we had Gymnasium and Gesamtschule. There might have been another type of school, but I never came across it and don't know anyone that went to one. The teachers recommend if you should go to a Gymnasium or not after the 4th grade. Wether you listen to them or not is your own choice. But some kids struggle in elementary school and will have a better time at the Gesamtschule. With both types of schools you have exams for Realschulabschluss and Hauptschulabschluss in the according years. And after the first exam you could be done with school at any time if you want to even if you are going to the Gymnasium. It just depends on what you want to do or become. Changing between the school types is also possible if at one point you decide that the other school type is better suited to you. Although changing from Gesamtschule to Gymnasium isn't done often as at the Gymnasium as the students often are further along in the subjects and the lessons are seen as more difficult, so the student may struggle if he does the change
3:20 Until 10th grade, the 1 - 6 grading system is in place, where 1 is the best grade and 6 is the worst. Sometimes, the teacher will add a + or - to indicate, if it was a close call for a better or worse grade and indicate tendency of your performance. These tendencies don't show up on your report card, though and are purely for your personal information on your performance, though. From 11th grade on to your graduation, the tendencies actually do count and the system therefore changes. You now get 0 to 15 points instead of grades with 15 being the best result, equivalent to a 1+: 15 = 1+ 14 = 1 13 = 1- 12 = 2+ 11 = 2 10 = 2- 9 = 3+ 8 = 3 7 = 3- 6 = 4+ 5 = 4 4 = 4- 3 = 5+ 2 = 5 1 = 5- 0 = 6
thanks for the explenation, i live in germany but i never heard of this system, because i stopped after 10th grade, sounds interesting but nothing i would want to deal with XD
1:30 No, that's completely atypical actually. Only a few schools do that, the vast majority does not. There is no need for a lunch period because the kids will usually be at home for lunch. 3:30 This system is only used in the 11th to 13th grade at Gymnasiums. 15 equals 1+, 14 equals 1, 13 equals 1-, 12 equals 2+ etc all the way down to 0 which equals a 6. To pass a test you need at least 5 points (which equals a 4). 4:50 Latin is still an important language today because it is still used in many scientific fields, including but not limited to medicine and biology for example. And it is of course super important for everyone who studies anything related to European history, especially when speaking of antiquity or the middle ages. 7:10 Not exactly. Not every kid can keep up with the speed and amount of lessons that are required for Gymnasium - and instead of having to square the circle and try to bring kids up to speed that can't learn as quickly as some others while at the same time not slowing down the kids that have an easier time learning stuff we have different types of schools taking care of that problem. It's also not excluding people who went to a Realschule or Hauptschule to get an Abitur afterwards - there's awveral ways to do for people who want that, even as an adult. It's hard and a lot of work, however even someone who got a Hauptschulabschluss has the chance to make Abitur and go to university eventually. It should be mentioned though that unlike the USA we highly value jobs that do not require a university degree, and a lot of craftsman jobs on average are well payed. 8:50 The teachers are the ones who can evaluate how the individual students keep up and how easily they learn. A child that has problems learning things like math or struggles with languages will usually not be able to keep up with the pace of learning at a Gymnasium. A friend of mine from elementary school was recommended for Realschule however his parents decided to send him to the Gymnasium....and he wasn't able to keep up and failed miserably. His grades where so bad that he would have had to repeat the year. The parents then decided to take him out of Gymnasium and send him to a Realschule instead and within the next year his grades where way better - he was in fact one of the best of his class at the Realschule. However failing at the Gymnasium did send him to a bad mental state for a while until the good grades at the Realschule started rolling in. The decision to which school a kid should go should be done with the best interests of the kid in mind, not to flatter the ego of the parents. 13:25 Beer and wine at 16, hard liquor at 18.
It's only "atypical" in the old/western states. In eastern Germany, school canteens are the norm because far more women work full time (part of the GDR "heritage").
I remember that in East Germany there were always school canteens with about 3 different dishes. In the previous week, there was a meal plan for the coming week and parents could buy meal tickets for the respective dish (chosen by the pupil / student) of the respective weekday in the following week.
@@Nils.Minimalist It's still pretty similar, at least as far as I can tell from myown experience (went to school 2002-2014). The only difference was that the meal tickets started to be ordered online after a few years and that they were replaced by electronic cards in the early 2010s.
Here in Schleswig-Holstein we have "Gemeinschaftsschulen" in which you can get the ESA (Hauptschulabschluss), MSA (Realschulabschluss) and the Abitur. In grade 9 you can write the ESA, but only those students whose teachers are unsure if they are smart enough for the MSA. After this some stay on the same school (if the marks are good enough) and try to get the MSA and others do an apprenticeship. The same is with the MSA, just a year later. For the Abitur you leave school after 13 years. (I hope this all makes sense in the way i wrote it down. If not, i'm sorry.) I think this system is better than seperating the children after primaryschool, cause some might not seem to be the smartest when they are 10 years old, but when they get older. Also the better students often help the ones that aren't that good. But this is just my opinion based of my own experience. I hope it isn't to confusing and you can understand my english.
3:33 for me personally I never had that “15” but I guess there is a + and - for each grade (making it better or worse, I think it’s similar in the US) and apparently some schools use a system with grades from 1-15 where 15 is the best or the equivalent to the 1+ in the 1-6 system
Helps a lot with the German language and its grammar, too. I hated it in school - but apart from maths it is probably the subject that has helped me in many cases since then. Not just with quiz shows...
Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we *almost* got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables. It's terribly slow at peak hours and often breaks down. I live literally in the centre of a city of 300k people and I'm sending this out via copper cables. Modernisation is expensive and the German government is legally bound (by our constitution) not to go into a lot of debt, so try to invest in the future with that and with parties that refuse to increase taxes on the wealthy (despite what the ill-informed might claim, Germany has medium to low taxes compared to similar countries).
"Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we almost got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables" nope, only one....helmuth kohl.....was a good friend of kirch...they made a deal about crappy copper cables and private tv....
Also the limitation of debt led to the strange situation that 3G, 4G and 5G frequencies were auctioned to the telcos like Telekom, Vodafone or Telefonica. The government earned billions of Euros each time. This would have been acceptable if that money had been spent for digital infrastructure. But they put it to the general budget and the telcos had much less money to invest in order to establish an appropriate infrastructure including fiber connectivity. I live in a big city (500.000 residents) but still running on 16 Mbit copper. Situation has become even worse due to EU consumer protection laws two years ago: If the speed is lower than your contract promises you now have to get a refund from your provider. But the telcos did not speed up their lines, they downgraded the contracts and limited the bandwidth to a quality the could achieve. My contract was downgraded from 50 to 16 Mbit and the actual data speed went down from approx. 40 to 20 Mbit. Thank you, consumer protectors!
In my school we have a more or less stable internet connection and we're using iPads (which we had to buy ourselves if we don't want to use paper) At home we have like a 50k download connection (100k contract 🥲)
I'm from Czechia and we had latin in high school and the reasoning behind that is that a lot of high up professions like doctors or lawyers use latin based terminology. Actually, a lot of specilized terms come from latin. So the main reason we had latin was so we had easier time figuring out what these things mean. Plus there was a lot of overlap with history and literature too. We were learning about poetic forms and metric lines in the class too. For people who were Christian it was also helpful for church, but that wasn't really a big reason, because most people here are atheists.
Its also useful for learning other languages. Almost every language in Europe uses a lot of Latin words. German grammar is basically identical to Latin grammar as well. It helped me a lot learning French and I can pick up stuff in Spanish or Italian very easily. Slavic languages are much more difficult for me though.
For the digital stuff: germany has a massive lack on general digitalization for different reasons. In school, one of the reasons is data privacy. "Datenschutz" is very high valued in Germany, for good and not really good. Great debates since decades. The other reason is simpel: money. The schoolsystem had big shortages for a long time. Coming to the toilets, a lot of schools are old buildings, often there are toilets from the 1980s still at work, so it stinks not because it is not clean, but because something is broken. But yes, sometimes it is not clean enough, because the cleaning workers have not enough time and time is money. All the buildings issues are very expensive and also full of, well, a lot of laws and paperwork. The building belong to the town/community, somehow public. Which means, a school can not just call someone to fix it, because of the danger of potential corruption. Big story. In one school I know, parents volunteer to fix the toiletproblem, but were not allowed to. This also is Germany.
Wi-Fi wasnt needed at the most schools before covid because they hadn't subjects that needed smartphones, Computers etc. So when Covid came around they had a very big problem and couldn't upgrade a whole school that fast. The same goes for online sites where kids gould put or geht homework etc. They just werent needes before all that. Why are school toilets so gross or why is the playground so old? Mostly because the schools dont get the money from the state to upgrade/renovate. I remember that our School Toilets looked like they were from the 70s. and yeah the most time they didnt even work.
At my school mobile phones were even forbidden to use within the building. There was simply no need for W-Lan in the school. The only place that had internet available for the students was the library if you borrowed one of the laptops or the computers in the informatics classrooms.
I’m from bavaria and here (like in other states) the recommendation is kinda binding based on your performance in elementary school. So basically how you perform on exams from the ages of 6 to 9 will determine the school you go to and even if you are gonna be able to study at a university. The students with the worst grades will only be able to go to the Hauptschule. These students are usually not able to work in high paying jobs or in the academic field. If your grades are average you can go to the former or to the Realschule after wich you could go on and further you education at the gymnasium or fachoberschule and also achieve an abitur which allows you to go to university. If your grades in elementary school are above average or just very good, you are able to also go to gymnasium which goes by the normal grading system up to grade 10. In grades 11-12/13 you are rated in points rather then grades. At the end of your final year you take the big exams (Abitur Prüfungen) and if you pass those you get your Abitur. The grade you get in it will determine if you can go on and which courses you can study in university since some courses have high requirements. For example, if you want to study medicine in order to become a doctor you’ll need a score of a 1,0 in the Abitur which is basically the best score you could achieve
But if you graduate one of the 'lower' types of school you can go to the next level and graduate there in 1 or 2 years. So you can start at Hauptschule and eventually graduate Gymnasium and go to university. At least that is how it works in the Netherlands.
when it comes to digitalisation, germany is very much still stuck in the late 90s, early 2000s. We rank amongst the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to access to the internet in europe, even behind states like Romania, and also when it comes to internet speed nationwide. Areas with zero internet access or signal are still quite common here and occurr even within big cities. So yeah, internet access and digitalisation not a strong suite of us. real quote from our FORMER minister of education: "Man braucht Internet nicht an jeder Milchkanne", which translated means roughly "No one needs access to the internet at every farm/rural area". I think that sums this up perfectly^^
Even behind states like Romania? Why "even"? Honestly, I am coming from another (even poorer) Balkan country and now living in Germany, and in my country we have much better and more affordable internet, more digitalised services, possibility to make a doctor appointment via the cellphone app in 20 seconds, more functional and faster bureaucracy. I won't even go to the topic of other services not related to digitalisation, such as getting an electrician or plumber...
another reason is that Germany privatized the phone/internet networks and therefore the company will only expand the networks, if the population in the area would bring in enough money. So, in rural areas expansion costs a lot of money but the company will not make all the money back. These areas then get skipped, obviously.
@@withoutshadowww I'm working for an internet service provider in Germany. I once had a customer from Bulgaria on the phone. He told me, that his mother, living in a 50.000 inhabitants small town owns a Gigabit connection for 25 EUR/month. All I could offer him was a crappy 16 Mbit/s connection for 35 EUR/ month - and I even couldn't guarantee the 16 Mbit/s at all! This example shows perfectly how much Germany has lost touch with other EU countries when it comes to broadband expansion.
So, there's this thing called the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child wich came in force in 1990. It is one of the most supported conventions of the UN. Only one UN member has not ratified it. The USA. The UNCRC is a human rights treaty that is all about the civil, political, economic, social, health and cultural rights of children. Added on were optional protocols concerning children involved in military conflicts and one that prohibits the sale, prostitution or pornography of children.
"Abistreich", the prank after graduating from school can get really crazy. Here in Austria, it usually starts at 8pm. We got a classmate hiding in the locker for 3hrs, he unlocked the doors from the inside after all teachers were gone. We did the usual stuff like toilet paper, but we also brought a plastic pool which we filled up in one of the hallways, a big soundsystem to play music, lots of strong alcohol and we barricaded the entrance. Everyone who wanted to enter the next morning, students or teachers, had to drink a shot of vodka. We also released 5 chickens in the teachers room, as well as a pig in the schoolyard.
You can still have homework on the weekends but you are also meant to have some free time. When I reached high school I had classes until 4 pm - so there was a rule that all homework given on that day wasn’t allowed to be for the following school day. Which makes sense , if you have school until 4 , still have to take the bus. You won’t be home until 5. then there is supper - maybe some chores. If you had to do homework on top of that you would have absolutely no time for yourself
Be aware this video, really simplified the school system, so the basics are covered for all federal states. The complications start after that. I haven't seen a comment on the part of the "Förderschule" , so I'll try my best to give you a better insight to it. Yes, the start of this school wasn't very good and had/sometimes still has a bad reputation. On the other hand, special schools for blind or deaf people fall aswell under this kind of school, as they need special tools and lessons (e.g. braille for the blind). The curriculum there is more that of a "Gesamtschule" (= all school types - "Haupt/Mittel"-school, "Real/Wirtschafts"-schule and "Gymnasium" under one roof). My neighbor's son was deaf, graduated with his "Abitur" and went on to study for Bio-engineer ... The main part of all the pupils in the "Förderschule", however, are mentally and/or bodily disabled children, who couldn't fit into the "normal" schoolsystem, due to e.g. access to the classroom on the second floor because there is no elevator (mainly in very old school buildings, but those still exist 🤷♀️) or due to not having enough teachers, who can accommodate to the needs the pupil, e.g. a pupil with dyslexia (problems with reading) AND Dyskalkul (problems with numbers) on top of ADHS, has. The curriculum is very similar to the one of the "Hauptschule", but on a slower pace (at least where I'm living). Furthermore there is always a qualified nurse in house and a doctor - at least - on tap. This is not the case in the other schools. There are schools, that are called "integrated", but often times they can only pick up a certain amount of disabled students. The main reason is funding. Depending on the kind of school, it is the community, county and/or state ... The "Förderschule" is funded by the state AND country (as far as I know), what basically equals with more funding. I hope this helped a bit in understanding. Take care - Europe ⚘
concerning the grades here: Generally speaking, the system of 1 (best) to 6 (worst) is common from school years 1-10ish. These grades individually get split in three categories. So for example: you can get a 1-, a 1 or a 1+ on your test. 1- is still the best grade possible, but the "-" says that within the best possible grade you fall under the lowest category/got the lowest amount of points. If you get slightly more points your grade goes up from 1- to 1 and if you get even more points it rises rom a 1 to a 1+. After school year 10, the system is "replaced" with the 1-15 point-system with 1 being the lowest and 15 being the highest. This switch was confusing for me at the start aswell. This is done to better differenciate the perfomances of the pupils . For example: 15 points is the optimum amount of points you can get, which equals the 1+ of the system above mentioned. 14 points would be equal to a 1 and 13 points equal to a 1-. the main differences between these two systems are that for the first system you will only see the 1-6 without the "+" or "-" on your report card whereas with the other system you see the points that are the equivalent of the "+" and "-". Basically, you can only see how good your 1 really was on your report card, when the second system is used.
No, that's wrong. 1- isn't the best grade, 1 is the best. There is no 1+ in this system. In Elementary and Secondary I (grades 5 to 9/10) School the best grade is 1 the worst 6. You count 1 (=A in US), 1-, 2+, 2 (=B), 2-, 3+, 3 (=C), 3-, 4+, 4 (=D), 4-, 5+, 5 (=F), 5-, 6+, 6. In Secondary II (grades 10/11-13) the best grade is 15 and the worst 0. You count 15 (=1+ / 100-96%), 14 (=1 / 95-91%), 13 (=1- / 90-86%), 12 (= 2+ / 85-81%) ... The percentage is not generally fixed, but varies from state to state, or even from school to school.
@@Frohds14 No, i meant that 1 is still the best grade possible, no matter if you have a "-" or a "+" behind it. I referred to the number not the specific grade of 1-. Also a 1+ absolutely exists. Had some friends who got this grade in school. In our state of NRW the grade 6+ did not exist. Here we were told that there is only a 6, because if you get that grade you failed completely and it would be irrelevant to differanciate between a 6+ and a 6. But this of course might vary between states in germany
@@G-o-R-i-ll-a-Z Was bitte ist daran kompliziert? Ist A-F, wie in den USA, einfacher? Die Schweiz zählt umgekehrt zu uns von 6-1, auch da ist die 4 die unterste Bestehensnote. Ist das weniger kompliziert? Oder etwa das dänische Notensystem, das von -3 bis 12 Punkte geht, allerdings nicht gezählt, sondern es gibt nur die Noten 12 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Ohne Gleichen"), 10, 7, 4, 02, 00 (ein Schelm wer Böses dabei denkt) und -3 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Troll"). Bis 2007 war das Notensystem in Dänemark noch merkwürdiger. Da gab es als beste Note die Note 13, die aber nicht vergeben werden durfte.
You typically pack your own food in a small box or container every morning to eat at lunch or during the break period between the classes (those breaks are usually between the 2nd and 3rd period and the 4th and 5th lasting about 10 to 20 minutes or you have on break between the 3rd and 4th period)
Most of the schools were rebuilt after WW2 or rebuilt in the child boom times of the 1960s. But especially in the last 30 years or so, schools have been neglected and funds have been cut as part of austerity measures. As a result, it was not possible to finance long-overdue modernizations or the long-overdue digitization. In other words, toilets that are 30 - 50 years old stink.
My Elementary School (village) was so old that we only had 3 classrooms for 4 classes, the toilets were outside the building, a gym didn't exist and we had an aditional building on the school ground were the director lived. It was cozy though.
In my town the "Schultüte" is handcrafted at the kindergarden by the parents (mostly Mums) and filled with sweets, pencils and such things. It is usually decorated according to the child´s interests, ie unicorns, soccer, space, animals... I would have loved to buy the Schultüte, since I´m not very good at handcrafting, but my children insisted on having a "selfmade" one. Now they are 17 and 21 and still have their Schultüte.
Well the grading system part was so short, in case anyone is still wondering. A(with as many pluses possible)=1 (on the 1-6 range)=15 points, F= 6 (on the 1-6 range) = 0 points. The lowest passing grades are 4 (on the 1-6 range) and 5 points. The 15 points range is something typically used in grade 11,12 and law related uni subjects, the norm is the other.
From 1st to 10th grade you get grades from one to six where one is the best and six the worst grade. You can leave school after 10 years to start working but if you don’t you get into the “Oberstufe” which makes you continue school from 11th to 13th grade here is like a different system when you get points instead of grades. 1-15. 15 points is a 1+, 14 points is a 1, 10 points is a 2- ( or in the USA an B- ). So if the points in the Oberstufe are higher you get a better grade, and behind the points are the kind of grades.
1-6 basically corresponds to A-F grades. I'm not entirely sure, but i believe "E" is not used in the US, it goes straight from "D-" to "F" as the failure grade. That's not so in Germany. The usual failure grade for someone who at least made an effort is "5", with "6" being reserved for absolutely catastrophic failure such as handing in an empty sheet of paper. The 1-15 system in the later years is interpreted as a points score. More points are better ;-)
Effort, hah, yes, that's it! In a test once, we had to write a short essay on a philosophical/ethical question... and for an unspecified reason, I could not think of anything to write. But I didn't want to return an empty paper, so I wrote down a memorized foreign language poem. I got a 5... and the comment from the teacher that he had to give me that, because he couldn't be sure if my text didn't answer the question... he didn't understand it. Don't let it ever be said that Germans don't have a sense of humour!
@@Groffili a classmate of mine turned in her French essay exam in Spanish. She read the assignment (French) once, tuned out to think about it and pumped out a couple of sheets of paper in record time. But in Spanish. Our teacher was very cool about it though and talked to the other French teacher (we had 2 French classes for a couple of years, because there were too many students for just one) and my classmate was allowed to repeat the exam with the other class some days later (they had a different assignment of course, so she couldn't prepare more than everyone else). And as a little bonus, the French teacher handed the essay to her Spanish teacher and he gave her a little plus in his grade book, like if she had handed in some extra work.
I searched for a Gymnasium that offered latin classes for my second language because I really had trouble in english and german. If I had to haven taken french, I would have never made it. There is a saying here that latin is for the more math and sience leaning people, since you barely speak or write in it
The grading system in secondary works like this: on each assignment we can get up to 15 notenpunkte (grade points), there are two ways to figure out what your points mean in the grade from 6- to 1+ depending on which school/class you go to, some classes/schools only 13 points to get a one 1+(100%) but the more difficult classes need 15 points to get a 1+. Then, all the sheets, tests, exams and other factors are calculated to give you final grade, on your zeugnis(report card) it will say the numbers, but in my class when you complete a test, the teachers just tell you how many grade points you got and you have to figure it out yourself.
About the grades: The students usually get grades using the 1-6 system. 6 is the worst grade and the system goes over 5-, 5, 5+, 4-, 4, 4+, ... up to 1+ being the best grade. To pass the school year, your grades in your annual report have to follow certain rules: 1. No 6 in any subject 2. Two or less 5s in any subject 3. If you got a 5 in any subject, you need another subject with grade of 3 or better to compensate the 5. Only one 5 is allowed in any main subject. Main subjects are: - Maths - German - English - Physics or Chemistry (depends on school) Students in higher school years (11th grade and higher) get grades using the 0-15 system. The 0 in this system equals the 6 in the common 1-6 system and the 15 equals the 1+ in the common system.
Well, yes, there are restrictions on homework at the weekend, but those are only for friday to monday homework, meaning that you can absolutely have homework over the weekend, but if it's given to you on friday, t can't be for monday. Friday to tuesday or thursday to monday is fine^^ 12:15 well, Germany is pretty advanced in many ways- non of which are digital... the principal of my school recently told us that we had some teens from Ukraine, but they would'nt participate in any of our classes. They only need Wi-Fi to access their classes online. We were stunned, because for us that was hard to imagine, since we simply aren't developed that well digitally...
School days in elementary/primary school are usually 7:45-12:30 or something so the kids get home before lunch and do all their work there. Almost all secondary schools offer full days from 7:45-16:00, some with specific times set aside to do homework or projects while others will just have 10 45 minute periods of lessons with one of those set aside for lunch and 5-15 minute breaks in between. I, specifically, went to a Christian elementary school with lessons from 7:45-12:00 with five minute breaks between classes and a half hour recess. Then I attended a sort of mixed school which offered all three types of school but had an additional two years (5-6 grade) of mixed classes. In sixty grade i was put into advanced studies where, aside from English which we already had, we got to choose latin or french as a third language. My school days were all 7:45-16:00 with 6 dedicated lessons for studying and homework, a 45 minute lunch time and a 15 minute recess before that. Every Wednesday was a half day with the afternoon (12:45) open for extracurriculars. In 7th grade we were separated and I was put into the Gymnasium where, in 8th grade I got to choose between an additional science class or Spanish as a fourth language. The dedicated homework time disappeared throughout the years and by grade 9 it was just full days of lessons. Abitur is different from state to state. In Baden-Württemberg, where I finished my education, Most schools switched to a 9 year Abitur (5th-13th grade) but I still had the 8 year one. The last two years of Gymnasium are the ones that count towards your Abitur. The grading system changes and all your grades are recorded, all grades from those years count towards pretty much everything you want to do with your life afterwards. You need an Abitur to get into University. If you did Realschule then you can most of the time transfer to the 9th/10th grade of a Gymnasium and then do your Abitur there (so 1 year+ 2 years Abitur) or you can do an Ausbildung which is 3 years of paid job experience and schooling, oftentimes with employment at that place afterwards, which will allow you to go to a University for a subject related to your Ausbildung. If you did Hauptschule you could do a similar thing (+1 year Real +1 year Gym +2 years Abitur) but most of the time getting an Ausbildung or just starting employment is easier. It's separated that way to allow students to get into an academic career if it suits them or a more practical career without torturing them for years
So if you havent find out yet. The school cone with all the goodys is gifted by your parents, friends or other related. Usually the partens organize who is gifting to their child if not themselves.
My "Schultüte"/schoolcone was handcrafted by my parents for my brother (the eldest kid) and used again (filled with goodies) for me and again for my little sister. It was full of candy and cool school supplies and also had a small toy in it. We also had a religious service on the first schoolday. Met our teacher in classroom and got a big "Brezel"! The event of "Einschulung" endet with a foto, that was shot of all new schoolkids with their Brezel and their Schultüte on the staircases in front of the schoolbuilding.
Depending on what kind of secondary school you go, you can get less job oportunities. Like alot of the "good" jobs require a gradituation from the "realschule" or "gymnasium". Of course you can redo these gradituation after your own but that takes some years.
I went to a realschule and went on to a gymnasium. It helped me a lot to not have the huge pressure from the Gymnasium. They are often faster more pressure and I just needed that extra time. I went on to a gymnasium for my last 3 years and it was the best decision ever made. But I had a lot of friends who got the recommendation for Realschule but their parents wanted them to go to a gymnasium. Most of them failed there and had to come to the realschule just to later go on back to the gymnasium after finishing the realschule. I am actually pro choice but... it was a lot of trauma and drama and pain for some of my friends... so... it is very difficult.... the teacher usually knows you pretty good.
I graduated school in 2016 and we didn’t have wi-fi! And my primary school used to be from 8-1pm too and we didn’t have a canteen, I went back there a while ago for an internship and this had definitely changed and kids have longs days with different activities now
I went to a Realschule (graduated 2010). It had, for the time, a good IT infrastructure but most of it was a pilot project. A projector in every class, the teachers had a PC at the front (obviously hooked up to the projector under the ceiling) and two classes (out of 4 to 5) of each year had lessons with a laptop. Problem was, most teachers didn't know anything about IT, so even though we had to bring the laptop to school (together with the books, since no lockers), it was only used about 40% of the time...
About Homework on Weekends and during Holidays/ Vacations. Weekends and Holidays are meant for "relaxation" and to prepare for the new week or school year. If teachers give you Homework over the weekend it's mostly easy tasks, like reading a few chapters of a book that's covered in class. At least that's what I had to do when I was still in School. About the Schultüte, like it's covered in the Video, it's a Cone filled with sweets, stationary you'll need (like watercolors, pencil's etc.) and other goods. My Mom made mine herself and I kept it until I was 20. It was invented in Saxony but spread over all of Germany and it's meant to give kids who start school to give them a memorable experience.
In Germany we have a so called “Gymnasium” instead of the Highschool if you want to graduate after 13 years of school instead of 10. Those schools recently started using a new marking system where you get “mark points” instead of the actual mark. These go from 1 to 15 where 15, as said in the video, is the best. To get your actual mark, the 15 points are separate into 6 areas. If you got 0 mark points you automatically get the mark 6 but each section from 1 point is separate in three points, because you got marks like +5, -5, +1 or -1.
6:57 in my opinion (as a german in 11th grade) Realschule is the most common school type because a larger number of pupils go to the Realschule than to the Gymnasium or Hauptschule.
i gotta add something to the typical german school day hours because they definitely vary on where you live and what school system you are in. i attened a gymnasium in bavaria which is the southern part of germany and i went to school for 12 years in total, not 13 like in many other parts. therefore i had a lot of afternoon classes that could end at either 3pm or 5pm. one year i had a lot of afternoon classes and school ended at 5pm on two days, 3pm on two days and 1pm on the other day
on our school we had a vote if we wanted too keep the lesson length the same or not. our lessons ended up really being an hour long but we had less lessons a day in exchange was practical in higher grades because teachers had time to explain instead of going: "yeah we should be doing this but we dont have time for it so next topic"
Schultüte: A gift for the kid from their family. Lunch: No, you dont "need" one to make it through the whole school day if it entds arround 1PM Grades: 1 equals A in the US system and 6 equals F in the US system. "Higher" numbers are only for almost-adult kids (11th-13th class). The wood panel is not on the outdoors court but usually just wall decorations inside of the school's gym. The different kinds of schools are not only based on what you want to do as an adult, but also on the abilities of a kid. In theory at least.. As germany has 16 states there are 16 school systems..its a mess. This video is highly simplyfied.
In my times the primary school teacher's recommendation was close to binding. Only 4 including me from my primary school class went to Gymnasium, because you needed to have high grades. This system got softer over time and ended up with parents sending kids to Gymnasium who actually weren't qualified and ultimately failed and had to move "down" to Realschule or even Hauptschule in order to pursue a different path of education. Only the Gymnasium qualified you for university after 13 years of school (or for Fachhochschule after 12 years). But those were the days I went to school and university.
The „ Schultüte“ which we get at the beginning of school is handmade by your parents and gets filled with sweets and sometimes cute little things like special rubbers and stuff. We can drink beer at 16 (or younger under supervision of our parents). And hard alcohol like Wodka and stuff at the age of 18.
for the teacher recommendations... in Berlin for example, our class teacher recommended which students should go to the Realschule or the Gymnasium based on how well they to on their reports. The parents had their final say in that, of course, but the teacher recommendation is extremely realistic. I went to a Gymnasium (which is the hardest of the three), and I had several people in my class who were recommended for Realschule. In the end, they left because the school was too hard for them and they ended up going to a Realschule anyway.
Regarding the "Schultuete - it is a cone shaped cylinder, which contains some sweets, maybe some coloured pencil, a little toy and similar things to make the start of school a bit easier on the kids. One can buy them or make them oneself
Our schools were very well ... oldschool xD u didnt rly need wifi or digitalization honestly but it seems now with covid parents/teachers and the students got in touch with more modernized schooling via tablets/PCs and want to keep it my sisters school rapidly upgrade in the past 2 years because of it now every class gets a iPad and classes get fully digitalized.
yes, some school already got rapidly upgraded, however some others are still totally left behind wiht almost no noticable change. My school for example has no tablets/laptops and a bad internet connection only avaible to teachers.
This system gives you a lot of freedom, for example: In elementary school, I was recommended to go to middle school. If you do middle school you are not allowed to study with this qualification. After middle school you can either do an apprenticeship or you can do your "Abitur" - which I did. Abitur is a qualification which allowes you to go to university. After 3 years I was allowed to study at a university (which I didn't do, but I could if I wanted to). In the end this is the best way for students who do not get good marks at the "Gymnasium", they switch to middle school, get better marks (cause its a bit easier), do their Abitur and still can study to become a medic. And if you dont go to private schools it doesnt cost you anything either.
@3:43 Some explanation about that: In primery schools got the grading system which goes from 1-6 (1 is the best and 6 the worst). But in secondary school they use a system where you have to collect points for your final grande. That means if your were very good at a test you get 15 points (which equals a 1+), and with every less point your grade goes down (14 = 1 ; 13 = 1- ... 0 = 6). You get this point for every test and befor the final test you have to have enough to get permited to the finals. And your final grade is kinda the average between your points from the finals and all the points you got before.
as a German my school does not make sense. they spent money on our 'self study center' to renovate it but most students haven't even been there once. but our toilets never have toilet paper and are just gross
12:19 Yep, but we are also very paranoid about data privacy. So, if a teacher wants to use whatsapp for communication... that is a problem. Whatsapp is not conform to EU digital privacy laws. Also our politicians are SLOW to adapt digitalisierung.
When I was in primary school, the toilets for the building were only enterable from the outside of the building, so in winter it was freezing in there. They also were disgusting. That was 25 years ago... Guess what, it's still the same, nothing has changed. Thanks Germany 🙂
Actually my primary school teacher said I wouldn't have a chance at a "Gymnasium". Turns out, i finished my A level with a grade of 1.3 That proofs, this part of the system is a failure in my mind.
only my experience: -you only get the 'Schultüte' (the cone) once (1st day, 1st grade), normally from your parents -Primary School: classes from 8am-12/1pm (most schools offer a 'Frühbetreuung' so that kids get watched and the parents can go to work), you normally have a second breakfast break at about 10am and lunch at 12/1pm -homework restrictions: the older you get, the more homework you have (and when you're about 16yrs old > no more restrictions) -most schools didn't have wifi early 2020, but do now
In the eastern part of Germany we call the Schultüte "Zuckertüte" which means Sugarbag. It was meant to be to put only tons of candy inside. But nowadays kids get different stuff as you might image. :p About that schoolsystem thing: Please dont see it as complicated as that lady in the video does: Simple way for most pupils: Primary school -> 1-4____secondary school -> 5-10, with an option from the 5th grade to go to the gymnasium wich is from 5-12, or from 10th-12th grade. depends on how good you are. Thats it for the most! Almost like it is in the US, but with different grades. But, when you finished Gymnasium (which is like College) you can go to a University and study!
About the whole homework on the weekends thing: The weekend should not be treated as having 2 extra days of studying time but instead more like a regular day, basically don't give extra homework just because the children have more time to do them, since the weekends should be their days to relax and do stuff outside of school. It does happen that you will sometimes get extra homework over the weekend since its not a law, but most of the time the homework won't be longer then homework given from one normal weekday to another. About the marks: You get points from 0-15, with 0 beeing equal to the mark 6 and 15 beeing equal to the mark 1+, for example a 10 would be a 2- . In my school only the 11th and 12th grade would be scored with the points system, since a X- or X+ grade would be rounded to just X as a grade, while the points system allows for a more accurate evaluation, which is really important for your abitur where every single single extra point can count.
Hello, I come from the southwest of Germany, so Baden Württemberg. We have school here from 5th grade until 3:30 pm. However, it varies, because some schools start at 7:55, others already at 7:40. There are schools where there is a five-minute break between the first and second hour and between the third and fourth hour or the fifth and sixth hour. But there are also schools that don't have those breaks. Aside from that, most Gemeinschaftsschulen do not offer a Abitur. According to the paper, Gemeinschaftsschulen should offer all three degrees, but we don't have the teachers we need. And one more little historical fact->. Our school system is a remnant from the past that was supposed to separate society. Actually, it was not supposed to promote the individual, but to make sure that everyone goes to a school that corresponds to their standing in society. In other words, fathers should send their children to the same school they themselves have already been to, so that no one climbs the social ladder. The German school system is correspondingly ailing and should be urgently overhauled. The concept of Gemeinschaftsschulen or Gesamtschulen was of course a brilliant idea, but unfortunately it is poorly implemented. I can say from my own experience that most teachers do not voluntarily teach at a Gemeinschaftsschule because they actually want to go to a higher school to get a higher salary. because teachers are also prepared differently depending on what level they are supposed to teach at. Apart from that, the system around teachers in general is absolutely stupid. If you are not a civil servant but only an employee, you will most likely be dismissed during the summer vacations and will not get a salary for six weeks. You are not hired again until school starts and that is not even guaranteed. That means if they don't want you anymore, you don't have a job. In this case, fortunately, we have a shortage of teachers, so it is very likely that you will get your job back at the end of the summer vacations. Teachers are not role models anymore and getting a grip on the students nowadays is an absolute disaster. Teachers are no longer authority figures. Just what I know. PS. I am a Student.
I went from Hauptschule, to Wirtschaftsschule(business from of realschule) and then to the Fachoberschule (Different type of Gymnasium) so that i could go to university to study. In all that time i never had Wifi at school in the mid 2000 to earky 2010 years. The seperation by teachers after elementary school is just bad, if your parents have to saying or dont try to do anything. My parents originaly from turkey, so i have migration background, didnt talk with the teachers at all and i gor placed in Hauptschuleeven tho i think i could have easily went to Realschule or Gymansium and saved like 3-4 years of education to get to that point. Digitalisation is a huge problem in germany because all the "old" people just dont want to change their teachings. I cant remember any of my teachers using a PC in class, expect 1 teacher i had in the last year of my school life who just got a teacher.
The grading system is actually quite simple - once you get used to it. In the "junior years", it ranges from 6 (worst) to 1 (best), with 6 and 5 basically being "failed". It's really just the A-F system, but with numbers. However, in the senior years, smaller fractions matter more. So, in the senior years, it's a 0-15 points system. 0,1,2,3,4 means that you failed, 5 is a "barely passed". It allows for a more gradual evaluation of your skills, which is important for your documents.
0:53 These bags, or cones, are for sale at the start of school. You either buy one that is already filled or fill it yourself as a mother/father/grandma/grandpa. The contents usually consist of sweets, small gifts and starter packs for school. The school cone is a very popular gift for the start of school in the entire German-speaking area (Austria, Switzerland, Germany...) and every child must have a school cone on the first day of school!
Kids cant choose which school they want to go to! If youre a „bad“ student you have to go to the Hauptschule. If youre a „ok“ student you can go to the Realschule. And the Gymnasium is for the „best“ students I dont like this system but im not the Gouvernment🫡🤣
Nope, there's a lunch period, usually. Only in cases of very conflicting lessons would they drop a lunch period. What Rachel probably wanted to say was that school cafeteria's aren't the norm in German schools. Kids usually have a lunch pack with them that they eat in a break room, or outside on the school grounds. The lunch boxes aren't the stereotypical plastic or tin boxes you might see in Fallout 4 or something like that. But they vary a LOT. Many have separate lockable compartments that separate more liquid foods from drier foods, such as yoghurts from a sandwich. Grades go instead from A to F (skipping the E) from 1 to 6. Where an A is a 1, anf F is a 6. So instead of five gradiations there are six in German schools. Only in the Gymnasium, the German high school, in the last three grades, does this switch. Why? Heck, I don't know, some stupid tradition, I'd wager. For me there never was rhyme or reason for that switch. In the Gymnasium you get grade points, with 1 being the lowest, and 15 being the highest. Again, no idea why. (Shrug, meh) Latin is an absolutely great foundation for a huge number of languages, all commonly known as the Romance languages. Any word ending on -tion, -ous, -ious, as well as any prefixes like re-, pre-, in- are all based on Latin (or even earlier, Greek, which introduced many words to Latin). So if you know Latin all other similar languages like Spanish, Portugese, French, Romanian, and even a lot of English words become much more obvious and clearer. But the Greek empire was never as wide spread as the Roman empire, and didn't lasted as long. So the influence of Greek on modern languages, while still marked in the sciences, is less than Latin. Latin, as well as Greek, are incredible bases to charge against bull-headed born-again Christians claiming their usualy BS about the Bible when you can go back to one of the earliest versions written, and can cite them the more or less original texts as written in the New Testament. Of course, Hebrew and Old Aramaeic would be even better if you want to go back to the Old Testament or the Tora. But Latin still helps a lot, as it cancels out a huge number of translation errors throughout the ages. Sadly, I never got taught Latin, which I only now see as a major lack in my education. Obviously, during my school days I was exstatic not to have to learn the horrible declinations of Latin, a dead language nobody actual spoke anymore. Abschluss in German is a degree or diploma. Welcome to the compound word horror (for any non-German speakers) that is the German language. Hauptschule = main school. So a Hauptschulabschluss is a main school diploma. This is basically for trades or vocations at a somewhat lower scientific level. Or for not so skilled students. Realschule = real school (naaah, that just doesn't translate well, though it literally means that; but again, shrug and meh). That is somewhat more science based, but still for higher trades, crafts, and vocations. Gymnasium ~ High School. This is the school you have to pass to achieve a diploma allowing you to go to university for anything revolving around higher education. Note: trades, crafts and vocations are not frowned upon as 'low skilled' or 'unskilled' work in Germany. Well trained vocational employees can get a wage similar to a middle management employee, depending on their vocation. Drinking age: 14 at home under direct parental or guardian supervision for wine or beer (but normally not to excess), 16 without supervision for wine or beer, including buying them. Only hard liquors are limited to 18+, but then again free buying and drinking.
@4:50 learning latin helps you a lot in learning other languages, because as you said it is the basis of a lot of modern languages. I've had a couple of years of Latin in school and even though I really don't understand any of it anymore, it does give me a fine basis of speaking French or Italian for example...
Greetings from Germany ^^ when I was a kid the school system was more complicated than now. We had (and still have) the Grundschule (Elementary school) from class 1 to class 4. But than you went to the Orientierungsschule. Translated word for word it means Orientation school. This school was only for class 5 and 6, and after the Orientierungsschule you have to go to the Hauptschule or Realschule or Gymnasium. But we don´t have the Orientierungsschule anymore. There is one more thing witch wasn´t in the video. The Hauptschule is for pupils who are... um... not so smart 😬 with an graduation from the Hauptschule it´s very hard to finde a good job. Most of the pupils don´t have a apprenticeship when they finish school. The Realschule is better but the Gymnasium is the best. By the way the part about languages ( 4:30 ) is not really correct. At the Hauptschule you learn only german and basic english. At the Realschule you learn german, english and french. The Gymnasium is the only school where you can learn latin. At the Gymnasium you learn german, english, latin, french and greek, and if you want it you can also learn italian, spanish and russian. Languages are a big thing in german schools 😉
Every German child loves their Schultüte :) sometimes it’s bought but usually it’s made at home together with the family. For me, we bought the basic cone and then decorated it and so on. Then the parents fill it with little things like sweets or class utensils, without the child knowing what’s inside. They only get it back from their parents on their Einschulung (enrollment) and once they’re sorted into their new class they can open it and discover what’s been put inside. It was really fun to compare with the other children and maybe exchange a few things :)
@09:37 "How do the kids get all these Rights???"🤔 Well, there might actually be people in government with some common sense.😁 I get that is a shock to you.🤣
In Croatia, throughout our entire education up until you graduate from college, we have a 1-5 grades system, with 5 being the best and 1 means you failed. We have grades 1-8 (so from age 6-14) which is called elementary school, then we have different types of middle school/high school which last 1-3 or 4 years (you can choose "gymnasium" which mostly prepares you for university or you can take up a technical school which prepares you for a specific technical profession or trades school which prepares you for a variety of different professions. There is also a medical middle school where you train to be a nurse or economics middle school where you train to take on some profession related to sales/supply in business. After each of these you have graduation and then you can enroll into university if you want, which can last different amount of time depending on the type of study chosen. In high school / "gymnasium" type, we did have Latin for 2 years.
The grading system is as following: A+ 15 \ A 14 | -> 1 (primary and middle school) A- 13 / B+ 12 \ B 11 | -> 2 (primary and middle school) B- 10 / C+ 9 \ C 8 | -> 3 (primary and middle school) C- 7 / D+ 6 \ D 5 | -> 4 (primary and middle school) D- 4 / E+ 3 \ E 2 | -> 5 (primary and middle school) E- 1 / F 0 -> 6 (primary and middle school) The “point“ system (15-0) is only used in the last 3-4 classes of school (kind of like highschool I guess) and are there to get a more detailed view of your notes (with the plus and minus) since you don’t have those kind of “notes between notes” (A > A- | B+ < B) in the lower classes. Idk why it is so complicated though, instead of just using one grading system like the US does lol
07:40 - I agree and I oppose this "inclusion for inclusion's sake". I think this more than often overburdens teachers in regular schools that have plenty of problems already with their "normal" students. I don't see it as wrong sending children who are either physically too handicapped (or lack the basic mental capacities to be able to follow classes) to special schools that can cater to their respective needs *much* better. It doesn't mean that they aren't loved or that people want to "exclude" them or "shut them away", quite the opposite.
Yes after year 4 schools they told you what they think your options are. And not whether some teachers hate someone did play a role it was based on your grades and how you were perceived. It was binding before. It no longer is which basically means that parents send their kids to Gymnasien going for the highest level qualification no matter if the child was suited for that. Not everyone is good with reading and thinking. Others are more practically oriented so why make those learn latin etc. that is what hauptschulen were designed for originally. Sadly they became the melting pot for the lowest parts of society.
about the grading: instead of A..F we have 1..6 *grades* , but in some gymnasiums (depending on state) you'd be essentially only told 15..0 *points* in higher classes (until then everything gets tallied up to a grade on your final exam), with each 3 numbers corresponding to a "normal grade" and its +/- variant. so 15..13 points is a 1+ to 1- (A+ to A-), 12..10 is a 2 (B), .... , and 0 points is a 6 (F). and the threshold for passing a class is 5 points or grade 4 (anything under is just "how badly did you screw up", with 0 points essentially meaning you didn't even show up).
I remember at every school actually that we had to pay by ourselves for food in highschool or middle school whenever students made something or highschool had a cafeteria, but my middle school and primary school had no such canteen. They had an area where kids came together to sit and in primary school there was just the school recess yard and you brought your own food from home. it's very true that German is a bit old-fashioned still. I was surprised that as a Dutch person applying in Germany has become a bit digitalised but people are still sending maps with their application form and everything to firms and companies. We don't really do that in the Netherlands anymore. If I show up at a store to apply because they have an ad in their store for it they redirect me to their website or send an e-mail.
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"Cause they can drink beer at 18 or what?"
NO, that would be ridiculous! Of course they can drink beer when they are 16
16 ? WHy so late ?
14 with a parent ;)
I remember when I was in the US I was a officer cadet and wen my follow see man and I went to an bar they asked us for our ID strange what did they thing about a group of man with identical clothes we are children
I am Danish, 42. Alcohol and tobacco restrictions came in when I was already an adult. All my life, I could go and buy a bottle of vodka and a carton of cigerettes since the earliest of my childhood.
I had my first beer with 12 , no big deal.
The "Schultüte" is a present from the family. I handcrafted (with help) my Schultüte at the kindergarden and my parents filled it with sweets, pencils and such things. I still have mine. :D
I still have mine too and I'm already 19 years old xD
It hasn't been always like this. Originally it was invented in 19th century in Saxony and was a gift from a friendly headmaster to his pupils. Pointed paper bags (standard grocery packaging at the time) containing sweets and pastries were hung from a tree in the school yard and the newcomers were allowed to take one. That's one story.
The other story, also connected to Saxony, says that the custom of the Zuckertüte goes back to the school reforms by Martin Luther and Philipp Melanchthon.
Both were irritated by the humiliations children endured at school. So they got rid of the penitentiary hat (also called donkey hat, the pointet hat the KKK or Spanish penitents in processions use) that children had to wear as a punishment. Teachers had to learn to be merciful as God is merciful.
As a result, the custom arose that on the first day of school (usually after Michaelmas) the donkey hat in school got filled with sweet cakes and cookies for the new pupils.
In other regions you get a sweet pretzel (e.g. me in Hesse, a Brioche kind pretzel), which was supposed to symbolize the path of life or the letter B as next step after A. In later interpretations some people said, its the infinity sign, for infinite knowledge (or infinite stupidity).
I threw it away when we moved in 2nd grade
So the sweets aren`t that fresh anymore. LOL
I got 2 and lost both. And I‘m just 16.
As a German I can say that you definitely get homework on weekends 😄😅Schools that don't give you homework are special schools
It was soooo funny to watch this video and the reactions😂😂😂
I totally agree with you. Our teacher gives us especially over weekends homework.
for me it was forbidden till grade 6, after that we’ll get as much homework as they can find
Ich weiß nicht warum ich dieses video geschaut habe..., ich weiß nicht warum ich die kommentare lese..., aber ich weiß du hast Recht
Yup, lots of homework on the weekend. I know a bunch of people who spend up to 15 hours on homework for weekends. Sometimes I heard stories from others who had only those homework-loving teachers, that they got homework due to the next day that would require like 10 hours of work to get done (just done, not well done). But that combined with going to school until 5 pm on most days is just impossible.
(That statement in the video that school is from 8am to 1pm applies maaaaaybe to primery school... that's it. The rest has from 7/8 am to 4/5 pm! )
They should fact check some parts in the vid, cuz some are just wrong information right here.
Ist aber eigentlich so nicht wirklich erlaubt. Es gibt klare Regeln, wie viel Zeit Hausaufgaben in Anspruch nehmen dürfen und es gibt auch klare Regeln, wann Kinder z.B. darauf verzichten dürfen. Problem ist, dass der Stoff, den Lehrer vermitteln sollen, so umfangreich ist, dass es vorne und hinten nicht mehr ausreicht. Da kollidieren Vorgabe und Schultstoff. Theoretisch müsstest Du am Wochenende keine Hausaufgaben machen, weil die Lehrer gar nicht so viel aufgeben dürfen. Machen sie aber, weil ihnen nix anderes übrig bleibt. ^^‘
the time span in which you are in school actually differs from the grade you are in. 1-4 or 6 grade usually is around 8am-1pm as mentioned in the video but the older you get the more lessons you will have and the longer your days will be. i was in a gymnasium where my longest day was in 11th and 12th grade which was from 7:20am-4pm (with one free period). so as i said, it varies depending on your grade.
My longest (11th and 12th grade) is 7.50am - 5.50pm with 45 min break🥲
You just had lessons til around 4?? Oha du guter…Im in the 8th grade and have lessons til 4 and a the big brother from my friend is in the tenth and has lessons til 4:30 pm🥲
In Netherlands gymnasium was from 8:30 to 3:20 or 4:10 at the latest. And we had like 15 different subjects, with gaps in the schedule that you could use to do homework.
I remember in year 4, out of 6, I had like 25 hours a week of classes and barely needed to do any homework, the workload was very light, although some of my thicker classmates did complain.
If you're wondering why in German a "Gymnasium" is a school that is meant to prepare you for university and in english it's a place where you work out:
"Gymnasium" comes from the Greek word γυμνάσιον (Gymnásion), which was a place where young men trained both their bodies _and_ minds. English and German ended up focussing on different aspects of that.
they also trained there naked lol
Its good to know about Ancient Greek, isnt it?
nerd. but respect the effort lol
In Czechia, gymnasiums are also schools that prep students for university.
@@slouberiee Yeah, also usually of better quality than the specialised schools. The students are usually better prepared for the universities but if they do not intend to continue studying, then they are as good as without the high school.
The 3 tier system made sense when it was introduced in the late 19th century because you needed workers and craftsmen (Hauptschule). You also needed clerks, administrative employees, secretetaries, etc (Realschule) and finally you need lawyers, doctors, scientists and other academics (Gymnasium).
Now you don't need them anymore ?
@@lame7560 of cause we do, however there have been studies showing that putting together children with higher and lower affinity for learning enhances the learning effekt. Thats at least one of the many reasons I know of.
@@lame7560 They are still needed, the problem is that this system causes people to be restricted into what they can become later in life. It's around age 11/12 that it's decided for kids if they go to the Hauptschule, Realschule or Gymnasium and only a small number of people knows at that age what they want to do later in life. Yet when they become old enough to enter the job market, the kind of school they went to literally dictates what kind of apprenticeship positions are open to them. There are ways to still get into higher education on a secondary path, but it sucks and requires you to do extra years of school. They should just get rid of this system and not railroad people intro professions when they are 11 years old.
@@roberthartburg266 The problem is that Hauptschule and even Realschule are seen as "lesser Schools" and since any parent would want for their child to be successful one day, the Gymnasium is the way to go
And while the Gymnasium is very good at giving you a taste of what higher education feels like, the Hauptschule doesnt focus enough on practical stuff that you would actually want to teach them, just like you learn a secondary language in Gymnasium, the Hauptschule should offer courses for mechanics, craftsmen, whatever, teach them the stuff you´d teach them in the first year of being an actual trainee in the field
Instead the Hauptschule is just a worse Realschule, and thus basically just frowned upon
@@Savaris96 That would be stupid, because you learn this in your vocational training and also woodworkers need to do basic math
Fun story about Latin: My cousin, who'd only ever learned Latin at school but not a single word of Italian, chose to go with the group that went to Italy for their graduation trip. He got on totally fine with Latin (cos Latin and Italian are so closely related). Also, you might have an easier time learning other Romanic languages (like French or Spanish) when you already know Latin because you can guess the meaning of a lot of words simply from knowing the Latin word.
Another fun story: I never learned Latin in school but in my later job training in a medical job I could guess a lot of the words from having learned French. :D
Latin is useful for all romance languages. Greek is obviously useful in Greece. Went there on a work trip for a weekend a few years ago and I was the only person who could read the signs on shops.
Its also fun being able to understand the etymology of a lot of Latin origin words in English, Dutch, German and many other languages that arent romance language group, on top of it being easier to learn French or Spanish for example.
I went to a gymnasium in Germany and literally next to our school there was a Hauptschule. Our toilets have been super clean with toilet paper and soap but the toilets in the other school were gross, so what happened is that almost all kids from the other school would come over into our school and used the clean toilets. 😂
"Why would you want to learn Latin"
Thats a great question and the answer is pretty easy. Latin is, for the most part, exclusively offered in schools that are geared towards higher education. The thing is: biological and especially medical terminology contains a LOT of Latin. If you want to study medicine in Germany, apart from needing an exceptional GPA, you either have to have had Latin in school OR take a mandatory Latin course additionally to your already very demanding course schedule.
At least this was still true a decade ago.
But in the end these are all bad reasons.
Actually more words in medicine are greek. :D And it won't help a lot that you had to study all the grammar. You could just study the words.
I personally would say Latin is good to learn something about grammar and even improving the german grammar, because you study all the concepts and have to translate it into long german sentences. I also think it just trains the brain, a littlebit like logic. (But they could simply teach logic. Or programing, which nowadays would be better. Or other languages, too.)
I like(d) Latin, but it doesn't make much sense to study it, unless you have fun to do so.
I had Latin in school and I really struggled with it, even had to repeat a class because of Latin. However, later when I studied french and spanish it made things sooo much easier for me because both languages are rooted heavily in latin
You also need to know latin if you decide to study languages or history...history for obvious reasons, languages because Latin is the base for a lot of European languages. Granted, you can do the necessary courses once you are in university, but, as you pointed out, that means that you have an extra-workload.
That's not the real reason tbh. Latin courses aren't actually about the language. It offers A LOT of history to learn that you often just gloss over in history classes (greek/roman period), and Latin in school is basically nothing more than really hard puzzle solving which really strengthens your brain and your ability to learn how languages are constructed. If you understand Latin and memorize much of it, you are basically given a headstart onto learning basically every other European language, it makes it a LOT easier and you can realize how much all European languages boil down to stemming from Latin.
I'm sad that Latin as a school subject is dying out. It's so much more helpful than Spanish or French where 99% of students don't learn anything at all either besides saying Hello or "My name is X".
@@DonDadda45 So, let’s say it is easier to learn French after having learned Latin. But wouldn’t your French be even better if you had invested all that time and effort spend on Latin directly on French? And once you know one ‘Latin language’, wouldn’t that give you a similar advantage in learning another ‘Latin language’? And you’d end up with knowing two living ‘Latin languages’ instead of just one.
Hey man!
Here is a short comparison of the grades you didn't get.
Basically the grades go from 1 to 6 (first place is always the best, so having 1 as the best isn't that awkward from this perspective...), all marks (except the 6) can have a + or a - for slight tendencies, making 1+ the best and 6 the worst mark.
Now you write down all marks from 1+ to 6 and count down from 15. Every mark gets a definitive number in the last 3 classes of school for the "Abitur" (some things can be said about this but it basically allows you to attend University), this makes it easier to calculate grades, averages, and points for your qualification and so on.
It's basically for making things more transparent but I get your confusion: the shift between two systems is irritating.
classes 1-10: classes 11-13:
1+ 15
1 14
1- 13
2+ 12
2 11
2- 10
3+ 9
3 8
3- 7
4+ 6
4 5
4- 4
5+ 3
5 2
5- 1
6 0
As addition.
The 15 point system is when you are on a "Gymnasium" (nothing to do with sports) which is a school that gives you the degree allowing you to study on a college or university.
For your degree, a certain amount of points from your classes and exams will be added and this will bhe trasnfered into the grade.
For example: 609 points from at least 280 and a maximum of 840 points.
The grade is 2.0 which is actually better than in the US. 2.0 would be a B but 609 of 840 are 72% which would be a C in the US.
@@helloweener2007 The Gymnasium grade system is also used in the Fachoberschule.
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Yes, you are right. But you get also a degree that allows you to study.
yeah and there also is a average calculated from those grades
I have been to Gymnasium and never questioned or even thought about this system. But hell it is stupid, why do we do it like that? Do we not trust people before 11th grade to be able to count to 15? And also since as you showed one system perfectly matches the other, why even bother to switch at all.
One point I'd like to add, you can always decide to get your Abitur, no matter which form of school you previosuly visited. I know plenty of people who came from Real- and even sometimes Hauptschule to attend the grades 10-12 and get their Abitur at my Gymnasium. It's just a little harder because in Gymnasium you're specifically educated to pass the Abitur, while other school forms don't have to fulfill that need
Age doesn't matter here either. My mother took her second go when she was 28 and told me about a 39 years old woman in her year that had two daughters that bith had their Abitur already, thus creating some funny scenes. The daughter once handed her mother her lunch, for example. The mother was laughing and told the story to the whole Kollege.
Well everybody who changed with best marks like almost 1 in everything from Realschule totally failed with worst marks of 5-6 after first Semester because we had much more stuff to learn and even more "Unterichtsfaecher". Maybe they could try in public gym with less to learn.
This school cone is also called sugar cone, is made by parents. Either in kindergarten or you buy them with the school bag. They are filled by parents, grandparents and godparents. With sweets and other small things for school
When they say "toilet" they don't mean the actual bowl (although I'm sure they are old, too) but the "restroom" or "bathroom" in general.
Usually they are pretty run down with broken tiles, old stained faucet - and are being cleaned just once per day, so you can imagine how they look after a couple of hours. Gross.
Nothing the school janitor can fix. They are in desperate need of renovation!
the internet problem is not just schools its everywhere, germany has by quite a margin the worste internet infrastructure in europe
Thanks to Kohl. ;)
And others..
So true! I live in an eastern European country (which is seen under-developed most of the time) and despite where I travel to I´ll have perfect mobile connection, perfect online services, we had no issues during covid lock-down homeschooling...It´s insane how Germany is behind this digitalization stuff! Sometimes I´m literally nowhere in the woods and have full LTE+ but when I arrive in Germany I can bet that if I had to take the train/ drive through more rural areas my cell will be useless until I hit a city again...
@@kathawenzel8033 Yeah funny but not true though. I have full LTE deep within the thuringian mountainranges deep in the woods. So do not make stuff up oh and the trains usally have Wi-Fi.
@@kathawenzel8033 in south germany where I’m from there is LTE everywhere and most 50k+ city’s have 5G and more and more small city’s also have 5G…
8:19 if they hated you, they’d rather send you to the Hauptschule, as it’s perceived as the “lowest” secondary school.
Or, well, they’d send you to Gymnasium because it’s the most difficult one
Yes, when kids are dumb Hauptschule is the aim, like minimum till 16 years old.
I remember having school till 3-4 PM almost every day. The school bus never drove at that time anymore, so I had to drive with one bus for half an hour into the city, wait for the next for half an hour, drive with that one for yet another half an hour to the bus stop closest to my home and walk another 20 minutes. So basically I got home around 6 PM, depending on delays and such sometimes close to 7... And homework still had to be done. 😑 Only sometimes my parents had time to pick me up.
"How do the kids get all these rights?" We give the rights to them so they can develop into happy adults, used to and trained in thinking for themselves.
And yet people in Germany are not any happier than people from third world countries
Aber wieso erzieht man Kinder dazu, selbstständig zu denken und zu handeln, wenn sie es dann sowieso nicht mehr dürfen, sofern sie "das Falsche" denken?
Dazu passt gut das Sprichwort: "Ich habe nicht laufen gelernt, um dann zu kriechen."
@@josefineseyfarth6236 Beispiel?
@@dansattah M/W/D?
@@se7enhaender Worauf läuft das hinaus?
Dass es mehr Geschlechter und Beziehungen als männlich, weiblich und hetero gibt, ist doch inzwischen bewiesen bzw. wahrscheinlicher als die Gegenthese.
"How you get those restricions in? Are the kids voting?" Kids in Germany are not voting, but they certainly have rights to get their opinion heard and to get involved in their schools affairs. In most schools there is a "Klassensprecher" elected in every class" - A child voted for by the majority of children, who can voice ideas and complaints of students to the teachers. There also is a "Schülervertretung - SV" elected by all students of the school, whom the headmaster and the teachers will invite to talks about things concerning the students and who will be listened to, if they propose change in school (like a Mensa/Cafeteria for the school). Sometimes this system works very well, sometimes not...
Germany signed something called the "UN Convention on the Rights of the Child" an international contract signed by almost every country in the world - except the USA... This contract has to be reflected in German law and government. That is why children in Germany have a right to playtime: Article 31 "All children have a right to relax and play, and to join in a wide range of activities." In order to achieve this: No homework on weekends. And yes, children are asked their opinions and are given opportunities to lobby for their interests: Article 12: "Children have the right to say what they think should happen, when adults are making decisions that affect them, and to have their opinions taken into account."
I think that is the difference between European Boomers and American Boomers.
Homework fre weekends not in saxony bro always homework
Jesus Christ, are all Germans lawyers? 😂
@@mrac.. No, but we know our basic rights (Grundrechte), in 7th grade every child gets a Grundgesetz book, with basic human rights in it, and we learn about it in politics.
Later, during Abitur/ A-levels you have social/political/economical science and there you learn everything about Europe, the political system, world wide politics compared to ours, etc.
But in all honesty, most Germans want to know their rights, in order to stand up for yourself and to make fun of our lobbyism and bureaucracy. 😂
@@annaluciaschmitz what the hell? We didn't get the Grundgesetz! Maybe because of covid, we don't have a formelsammlung because of that either, but still! I want one too! And yes, I know that every citizen has the right to get one for free but im too lazy to do that!
Also a very important thing she didn‘t mention is that EVERY teacher has to have a University degree. No matter what class or subject they are teaching (yes, even sports or music class in 1st grade, not even a professional soccer player like Ronaldo could come in and just become a sports teacher if he wanted to). This is mostly (but not only) because they have to learn the educational part aswell. German schools also always have a „trust teacher“ who often doesn‘t even give classes but is just there to support children when they argue with their friends, have issues at home or even with teachers or their mental health. Everyone can go to them at all times and ask for help and they will provide you with solutions or have a word with the teachers if they treat children badly (the child stays anonymous ofc!). Usually you are in a group of 15-30 people who will have all classes together (some schools are different, but most have these strict classes that don‘t usually mix with others). If you feel uncomfortable or just want to change class, you usually can without any issues. Oh and homework on weekends are still given to the children, but not on vacation!
It also has disadvantages to have such high education standards for teachers.
In the Netherlands we have a very similar system of education. We also have massive shortage of teachers for nearly all subjects.
I would like to be a teacher, the pay is decent enough, you can work in your own town with no commute and I like children, I think theyre great fun to be around.
But to become a teacher, I would need to get a bachelors and a masters degree in, for example, physics, Dutch or English literature, etc, and then go to a teachers school for an additional year to get certified.
While with my knowledge I could teach at least Dutch, English, physics, math, geography, history, and economics at gymnasium level without any problem. I wouldnt even need to read the books. But I cant do that because of regulations and I dont want to or can afford to go to school for 5 or 6 years to get the qualifications.
Hence we have shortages of teachers and classes are getting canceled all over the country because they cant find people to do the job.
Where I went to school we had Gymnasium and Gesamtschule. There might have been another type of school, but I never came across it and don't know anyone that went to one. The teachers recommend if you should go to a Gymnasium or not after the 4th grade. Wether you listen to them or not is your own choice. But some kids struggle in elementary school and will have a better time at the Gesamtschule.
With both types of schools you have exams for Realschulabschluss and Hauptschulabschluss in the according years. And after the first exam you could be done with school at any time if you want to even if you are going to the Gymnasium. It just depends on what you want to do or become.
Changing between the school types is also possible if at one point you decide that the other school type is better suited to you. Although changing from Gesamtschule to Gymnasium isn't done often as at the Gymnasium as the students often are further along in the subjects and the lessons are seen as more difficult, so the student may struggle if he does the change
3:20 Until 10th grade, the 1 - 6 grading system is in place, where 1 is the best grade and 6 is the worst. Sometimes, the teacher will add a + or - to indicate, if it was a close call for a better or worse grade and indicate tendency of your performance. These tendencies don't show up on your report card, though and are purely for your personal information on your performance, though. From 11th grade on to your graduation, the tendencies actually do count and the system therefore changes. You now get 0 to 15 points instead of grades with 15 being the best result, equivalent to a 1+:
15 = 1+
14 = 1
13 = 1-
12 = 2+
11 = 2
10 = 2-
9 = 3+
8 = 3
7 = 3-
6 = 4+
5 = 4
4 = 4-
3 = 5+
2 = 5
1 = 5-
0 = 6
10th class? in saarland I had the 00-15 grading system since I was in the 5th class
@@jultui2079 Saarland halt
thanks for the explenation, i live in germany but i never heard of this system, because i stopped after 10th grade, sounds interesting but nothing i would want to deal with XD
1:30 No, that's completely atypical actually. Only a few schools do that, the vast majority does not. There is no need for a lunch period because the kids will usually be at home for lunch.
3:30 This system is only used in the 11th to 13th grade at Gymnasiums. 15 equals 1+, 14 equals 1, 13 equals 1-, 12 equals 2+ etc all the way down to 0 which equals a 6. To pass a test you need at least 5 points (which equals a 4).
4:50 Latin is still an important language today because it is still used in many scientific fields, including but not limited to medicine and biology for example. And it is of course super important for everyone who studies anything related to European history, especially when speaking of antiquity or the middle ages.
7:10 Not exactly. Not every kid can keep up with the speed and amount of lessons that are required for Gymnasium - and instead of having to square the circle and try to bring kids up to speed that can't learn as quickly as some others while at the same time not slowing down the kids that have an easier time learning stuff we have different types of schools taking care of that problem. It's also not excluding people who went to a Realschule or Hauptschule to get an Abitur afterwards - there's awveral ways to do for people who want that, even as an adult. It's hard and a lot of work, however even someone who got a Hauptschulabschluss has the chance to make Abitur and go to university eventually. It should be mentioned though that unlike the USA we highly value jobs that do not require a university degree, and a lot of craftsman jobs on average are well payed.
8:50 The teachers are the ones who can evaluate how the individual students keep up and how easily they learn. A child that has problems learning things like math or struggles with languages will usually not be able to keep up with the pace of learning at a Gymnasium. A friend of mine from elementary school was recommended for Realschule however his parents decided to send him to the Gymnasium....and he wasn't able to keep up and failed miserably. His grades where so bad that he would have had to repeat the year. The parents then decided to take him out of Gymnasium and send him to a Realschule instead and within the next year his grades where way better - he was in fact one of the best of his class at the Realschule. However failing at the Gymnasium did send him to a bad mental state for a while until the good grades at the Realschule started rolling in.
The decision to which school a kid should go should be done with the best interests of the kid in mind, not to flatter the ego of the parents.
13:25 Beer and wine at 16, hard liquor at 18.
It's only "atypical" in the old/western states. In eastern Germany, school canteens are the norm because far more women work full time (part of the GDR "heritage").
I remember that in East Germany there were always school canteens with about 3 different dishes. In the previous week, there was a meal plan for the coming week and parents could buy meal tickets for the respective dish (chosen by the pupil / student) of the respective weekday in the following week.
@@Nils.Minimalist It's still pretty similar, at least as far as I can tell from myown experience (went to school 2002-2014). The only difference was that the meal tickets started to be ordered online after a few years and that they were replaced by electronic cards in the early 2010s.
Beer and wine with 16 not 15, 14 if you are with your parents
Here in Schleswig-Holstein we have "Gemeinschaftsschulen" in which you can get the ESA (Hauptschulabschluss), MSA (Realschulabschluss) and the Abitur.
In grade 9 you can write the ESA, but only those students whose teachers are unsure if they are smart enough for the MSA. After this some stay on the same school (if the marks are good enough) and try to get the MSA and others do an apprenticeship. The same is with the MSA, just a year later. For the Abitur you leave school after 13 years.
(I hope this all makes sense in the way i wrote it down. If not, i'm sorry.)
I think this system is better than seperating the children after primaryschool, cause some might not seem to be the smartest when they are 10 years old, but when they get older. Also the better students often help the ones that aren't that good.
But this is just my opinion based of my own experience.
I hope it isn't to confusing and you can understand my english.
1:05 Yes, same for the Italian ones: 8 AM - 1 PM.
3:33 for me personally I never had that “15” but I guess there is a + and - for each grade (making it better or worse, I think it’s similar in the US) and apparently some schools use a system with grades from 1-15 where 15 is the best or the equivalent to the 1+ in the 1-6 system
I did 5 years of Latin in school as well. Helps a lot when learning other languages and grammar.
Helps a lot with the German language and its grammar, too. I hated it in school - but apart from maths it is probably the subject that has helped me in many cases since then. Not just with quiz shows...
Latin needs a lot discipline and organization to learn - abilities that really help you elsewhen, too.
@@geneviere199 Yeah I remember realising that we use Akkusativ for directions and Dativ for locations as well aand being comoletely blown away haha
@@francis7336 what?! Could you give an example?
Ich biege rechts ab (Adverbiale Bestimmung des Ortes ig)
But how would that fit with wen?
@@francis7336 what?! Could you give an example?
Ich biege rechts ab (Adverbiale Bestimmung des Ortes ig)
But how would that fit with wen?
Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we *almost* got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables. It's terribly slow at peak hours and often breaks down. I live literally in the centre of a city of 300k people and I'm sending this out via copper cables.
Modernisation is expensive and the German government is legally bound (by our constitution) not to go into a lot of debt, so try to invest in the future with that and with parties that refuse to increase taxes on the wealthy (despite what the ill-informed might claim, Germany has medium to low taxes compared to similar countries).
"Ooooh, digitalisation is a huuuuge issue in Germany. Some 30 or so years ago we almost got a complete overhaul with fiber optic cables, as a country, but last minute, politicians decided to just overclock the shit out of our copper cables"
nope, only one....helmuth kohl.....was a good friend of kirch...they made a deal about crappy copper cables and private tv....
@@Xoiskin1969X Yes. 👍
Also the limitation of debt led to the strange situation that 3G, 4G and 5G frequencies were auctioned to the telcos like Telekom, Vodafone or Telefonica. The government earned billions of Euros each time. This would have been acceptable if that money had been spent for digital infrastructure. But they put it to the general budget and the telcos had much less money to invest in order to establish an appropriate infrastructure including fiber connectivity. I live in a big city (500.000 residents) but still running on 16 Mbit copper. Situation has become even worse due to EU consumer protection laws two years ago: If the speed is lower than your contract promises you now have to get a refund from your provider. But the telcos did not speed up their lines, they downgraded the contracts and limited the bandwidth to a quality the could achieve. My contract was downgraded from 50 to 16 Mbit and the actual data speed went down from approx. 40 to 20 Mbit. Thank you, consumer protectors!
@@Xoiskin1969X As Kohl wasnt kicked for that corruption it means the whole party is guilty as well.
In my school we have a more or less stable internet connection and we're using iPads (which we had to buy ourselves if we don't want to use paper)
At home we have like a 50k download connection (100k contract 🥲)
The cone (Schultütte) was filled with sweets, toys and fret pens and other equipment to school when I started school. (1988)
I'm from Czechia and we had latin in high school and the reasoning behind that is that a lot of high up professions like doctors or lawyers use latin based terminology. Actually, a lot of specilized terms come from latin. So the main reason we had latin was so we had easier time figuring out what these things mean. Plus there was a lot of overlap with history and literature too. We were learning about poetic forms and metric lines in the class too. For people who were Christian it was also helpful for church, but that wasn't really a big reason, because most people here are atheists.
Its also useful for learning other languages. Almost every language in Europe uses a lot of Latin words. German grammar is basically identical to Latin grammar as well. It helped me a lot learning French and I can pick up stuff in Spanish or Italian very easily. Slavic languages are much more difficult for me though.
For the digital stuff: germany has a massive lack on general digitalization for different reasons. In school, one of the reasons is data privacy. "Datenschutz" is very high valued in Germany, for good and not really good. Great debates since decades. The other reason is simpel: money. The schoolsystem had big shortages for a long time. Coming to the toilets, a lot of schools are old buildings, often there are toilets from the 1980s still at work, so it stinks not because it is not clean, but because something is broken. But yes, sometimes it is not clean enough, because the cleaning workers have not enough time and time is money. All the buildings issues are very expensive and also full of, well, a lot of laws and paperwork. The building belong to the town/community, somehow public. Which means, a school can not just call someone to fix it, because of the danger of potential corruption. Big story. In one school I know, parents volunteer to fix the toiletproblem, but were not allowed to. This also is Germany.
Wi-Fi wasnt needed at the most schools before covid because they hadn't subjects that needed smartphones, Computers etc. So when Covid came around they had a very big problem and couldn't upgrade a whole school that fast.
The same goes for online sites where kids gould put or geht homework etc. They just werent needes before all that.
Why are school toilets so gross or why is the playground so old? Mostly because the schools dont get the money from the state to upgrade/renovate. I remember that our School Toilets looked like they were from the 70s. and yeah the most time they didnt even work.
At my school mobile phones were even forbidden to use within the building. There was simply no need for W-Lan in the school. The only place that had internet available for the students was the library if you borrowed one of the laptops or the computers in the informatics classrooms.
@@simsch97 yes phones being forbidden is really common. Our teachers allowed it later but of course not in class
There are no restrictions for homework on the weekend. Probably in the „Grundschule“ thats like the first four years of school in Germany
I’m from bavaria and here (like in other states) the recommendation is kinda binding based on your performance in elementary school. So basically how you perform on exams from the ages of 6 to 9 will determine the school you go to and even if you are gonna be able to study at a university. The students with the worst grades will only be able to go to the Hauptschule. These students are usually not able to work in high paying jobs or in the academic field. If your grades are average you can go to the former or to the Realschule after wich you could go on and further you education at the gymnasium or fachoberschule and also achieve an abitur which allows you to go to university. If your grades in elementary school are above average or just very good, you are able to also go to gymnasium which goes by the normal grading system up to grade 10. In grades 11-12/13 you are rated in points rather then grades. At the end of your final year you take the big exams (Abitur Prüfungen) and if you pass those you get your Abitur. The grade you get in it will determine if you can go on and which courses you can study in university since some courses have high requirements. For example, if you want to study medicine in order to become a doctor you’ll need a score of a 1,0 in the Abitur which is basically the best score you could achieve
But if you graduate one of the 'lower' types of school you can go to the next level and graduate there in 1 or 2 years. So you can start at Hauptschule and eventually graduate Gymnasium and go to university. At least that is how it works in the Netherlands.
when it comes to digitalisation, germany is very much still stuck in the late 90s, early 2000s. We rank amongst the lower end of the spectrum when it comes to access to the internet in europe, even behind states like Romania, and also when it comes to internet speed nationwide. Areas with zero internet access or signal are still quite common here and occurr even within big cities.
So yeah, internet access and digitalisation not a strong suite of us.
real quote from our FORMER minister of education: "Man braucht Internet nicht an jeder Milchkanne", which translated means roughly "No one needs access to the internet at every farm/rural area". I think that sums this up perfectly^^
Even behind states like Romania? Why "even"?
Honestly, I am coming from another (even poorer) Balkan country and now living in Germany, and in my country we have much better and more affordable internet, more digitalised services, possibility to make a doctor appointment via the cellphone app in 20 seconds, more functional and faster bureaucracy. I won't even go to the topic of other services not related to digitalisation, such as getting an electrician or plumber...
another reason is that Germany privatized the phone/internet networks and therefore the company will only expand the networks, if the population in the area would bring in enough money. So, in rural areas expansion costs a lot of money but the company will not make all the money back. These areas then get skipped, obviously.
No, Germany is pretty much in the middle but it's getting better pretty fast
@@withoutshadowww I'm working for an internet service provider in Germany. I once had a customer from Bulgaria on the phone. He told me, that his mother, living in a 50.000 inhabitants small town owns a Gigabit connection for 25 EUR/month. All I could offer him was a crappy 16 Mbit/s connection for 35 EUR/ month - and I even couldn't guarantee the 16 Mbit/s at all! This example shows perfectly how much Germany has lost touch with other EU countries when it comes to broadband expansion.
good thing ❤
So, there's this thing called the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child wich came in force in 1990. It is one of the most supported conventions of the UN. Only one UN member has not ratified it. The USA.
The UNCRC is a human rights treaty that is all about the civil, political, economic, social, health and cultural rights of children. Added on were optional protocols concerning children involved in military conflicts and one that prohibits the sale, prostitution or pornography of children.
Thanks I did not know that (already finished university and having no kids). That explains why the following students knew so much less than we did.
"Abistreich", the prank after graduating from school can get really crazy. Here in Austria, it usually starts at 8pm.
We got a classmate hiding in the locker for 3hrs, he unlocked the doors from the inside after all teachers were gone.
We did the usual stuff like toilet paper, but we also brought a plastic pool which we filled up in one of the hallways, a big soundsystem to play music, lots of strong alcohol and we barricaded the entrance. Everyone who wanted to enter the next morning, students or teachers, had to drink a shot of vodka.
We also released 5 chickens in the teachers room, as well as a pig in the schoolyard.
You can still have homework on the weekends but you are also meant to have some free time. When I reached high school I had classes until 4 pm - so there was a rule that all homework given on that day wasn’t allowed to be for the following school day.
Which makes sense , if you have school until 4 , still have to take the bus. You won’t be home until 5. then there is supper - maybe some chores. If you had to do homework on top of that you would have absolutely no time for yourself
Be aware this video, really simplified the school system, so the basics are covered for all federal states. The complications start after that.
I haven't seen a comment on the part of the "Förderschule" , so I'll try my best to give you a better insight to it.
Yes, the start of this school wasn't very good and had/sometimes still has a bad reputation. On the other hand, special schools for blind or deaf people fall aswell under this kind of school, as they need special tools and lessons (e.g. braille for the blind). The curriculum there is more that of a "Gesamtschule" (= all school types - "Haupt/Mittel"-school, "Real/Wirtschafts"-schule and "Gymnasium" under one roof). My neighbor's son was deaf, graduated with his "Abitur" and went on to study for Bio-engineer ...
The main part of all the pupils in the "Förderschule", however, are mentally and/or bodily disabled children, who couldn't fit into the "normal" schoolsystem, due to e.g. access to the classroom on the second floor because there is no elevator (mainly in very old school buildings, but those still exist 🤷♀️) or due to not having enough teachers, who can accommodate to the needs the pupil, e.g. a pupil with dyslexia (problems with reading) AND Dyskalkul (problems with numbers) on top of ADHS, has.
The curriculum is very similar to the one of the "Hauptschule", but on a slower pace (at least where I'm living). Furthermore there is always a qualified nurse in house and a doctor - at least - on tap. This is not the case in the other schools.
There are schools, that are called "integrated", but often times they can only pick up a certain amount of disabled students. The main reason is funding. Depending on the kind of school, it is the community, county and/or state ... The "Förderschule" is funded by the state AND country (as far as I know), what basically equals with more funding.
I hope this helped a bit in understanding.
Take care - Europe ⚘
concerning the grades here: Generally speaking, the system of 1 (best) to 6 (worst) is common from school years 1-10ish. These grades individually get split in three categories. So for example: you can get a 1-, a 1 or a 1+ on your test. 1- is still the best grade possible, but the "-" says that within the best possible grade you fall under the lowest category/got the lowest amount of points. If you get slightly more points your grade goes up from 1- to 1 and if you get even more points it rises rom a 1 to a 1+.
After school year 10, the system is "replaced" with the 1-15 point-system with 1 being the lowest and 15 being the highest. This switch was confusing for me at the start aswell. This is done to better differenciate the perfomances of the pupils . For example: 15 points is the optimum amount of points you can get, which equals the 1+ of the system above mentioned. 14 points would be equal to a 1 and 13 points equal to a 1-.
the main differences between these two systems are that for the first system you will only see the 1-6 without the "+" or "-" on your report card whereas with the other system you see the points that are the equivalent of the "+" and "-". Basically, you can only see how good your 1 really was on your report card, when the second system is used.
Typisch deutsch 😂 hauptsache kompliziert
report card is what the dictionary said "Zeugnis" means in american english^^
No, that's wrong. 1- isn't the best grade, 1 is the best. There is no 1+ in this system.
In Elementary and Secondary I (grades 5 to 9/10) School the best grade is 1 the worst 6. You count 1 (=A in US), 1-, 2+, 2 (=B), 2-, 3+, 3 (=C), 3-, 4+, 4 (=D), 4-, 5+, 5 (=F), 5-, 6+, 6.
In Secondary II (grades 10/11-13) the best grade is 15 and the worst 0. You count 15 (=1+ / 100-96%), 14 (=1 / 95-91%), 13 (=1- / 90-86%), 12 (= 2+ / 85-81%) ...
The percentage is not generally fixed, but varies from state to state, or even from school to school.
@@Frohds14 No, i meant that 1 is still the best grade possible, no matter if you have a "-" or a "+" behind it. I referred to the number not the specific grade of 1-. Also a 1+ absolutely exists. Had some friends who got this grade in school. In our state of NRW the grade 6+ did not exist. Here we were told that there is only a 6, because if you get that grade you failed completely and it would be irrelevant to differanciate between a 6+ and a 6. But this of course might vary between states in germany
@@G-o-R-i-ll-a-Z Was bitte ist daran kompliziert? Ist A-F, wie in den USA, einfacher? Die Schweiz zählt umgekehrt zu uns von 6-1, auch da ist die 4 die unterste Bestehensnote. Ist das weniger kompliziert? Oder etwa das dänische Notensystem, das von -3 bis 12 Punkte geht, allerdings nicht gezählt, sondern es gibt nur die Noten 12 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Ohne Gleichen"), 10, 7, 4, 02, 00 (ein Schelm wer Böses dabei denkt) und -3 (bei Harry Potter wäre das "Troll"). Bis 2007 war das Notensystem in Dänemark noch merkwürdiger. Da gab es als beste Note die Note 13, die aber nicht vergeben werden durfte.
In secondary school, in the later classes, you dont really get grades anymore, but points. And there are max 15 of them
You typically pack your own food in a small box or container every morning to eat at lunch or during the break period between the classes (those breaks are usually between the 2nd and 3rd period and the 4th and 5th lasting about 10 to 20 minutes or you have on break between the 3rd and 4th period)
Most of the schools were rebuilt after WW2 or rebuilt in the child boom times of the 1960s. But especially in the last 30 years or so, schools have been neglected and funds have been cut as part of austerity measures. As a result, it was not possible to finance long-overdue modernizations or the long-overdue digitization. In other words, toilets that are 30 - 50 years old stink.
Ironically, the bathrooms weren't the oldest thing in our schoo lol
My Elementary School (village) was so old that we only had 3 classrooms for 4 classes, the toilets were outside the building, a gym didn't exist and we had an aditional building on the school ground were the director lived. It was cozy though.
In my town the "Schultüte" is handcrafted at the kindergarden by the parents (mostly Mums) and filled with sweets, pencils and such things. It is usually decorated according to the child´s interests, ie unicorns, soccer, space, animals... I would have loved to buy the Schultüte, since I´m not very good at handcrafting, but my children insisted on having a "selfmade" one. Now they are 17 and 21 and still have their Schultüte.
Well the grading system part was so short, in case anyone is still wondering. A(with as many pluses possible)=1 (on the 1-6 range)=15 points, F= 6 (on the 1-6 range) = 0 points. The lowest passing grades are 4 (on the 1-6 range) and 5 points.
The 15 points range is something typically used in grade 11,12 and law related uni subjects, the norm is the other.
From 1st to 10th grade you get grades from one to six where one is the best and six the worst grade. You can leave school after 10 years to start working but if you don’t you get into the “Oberstufe” which makes you continue school from 11th to 13th grade here is like a different system when you get points instead of grades. 1-15. 15 points is a 1+, 14 points is a 1, 10 points is a 2- ( or in the USA an B- ). So if the points in the Oberstufe are higher you get a better grade, and behind the points are the kind of grades.
1-6 basically corresponds to A-F grades.
I'm not entirely sure, but i believe "E" is not used in the US, it goes straight from "D-" to "F" as the failure grade. That's not so in Germany. The usual failure grade for someone who at least made an effort is "5", with "6" being reserved for absolutely catastrophic failure such as handing in an empty sheet of paper.
The 1-15 system in the later years is interpreted as a points score. More points are better ;-)
interestingly I heard E is not used because parents thought it stood for "Excellent" a "Failing" F seems more in line with American thinking
Also a “6” is given when a cheater is caught in the act of cheating…
Effort, hah, yes, that's it!
In a test once, we had to write a short essay on a philosophical/ethical question... and for an unspecified reason, I could not think of anything to write.
But I didn't want to return an empty paper, so I wrote down a memorized foreign language poem.
I got a 5... and the comment from the teacher that he had to give me that, because he couldn't be sure if my text didn't answer the question... he didn't understand it.
Don't let it ever be said that Germans don't have a sense of humour!
@@Groffili a classmate of mine turned in her French essay exam in Spanish. She read the assignment (French) once, tuned out to think about it and pumped out a couple of sheets of paper in record time. But in Spanish. Our teacher was very cool about it though and talked to the other French teacher (we had 2 French classes for a couple of years, because there were too many students for just one) and my classmate was allowed to repeat the exam with the other class some days later (they had a different assignment of course, so she couldn't prepare more than everyone else).
And as a little bonus, the French teacher handed the essay to her Spanish teacher and he gave her a little plus in his grade book, like if she had handed in some extra work.
You can also get zero points in the second system, which corresponds to a 6 in the first one
I searched for a Gymnasium that offered latin classes for my second language because I really had trouble in english and german. If I had to haven taken french, I would have never made it. There is a saying here that latin is for the more math and sience leaning people, since you barely speak or write in it
The grading system in secondary works like this: on each assignment we can get up to 15 notenpunkte (grade points), there are two ways to figure out what your points mean in the grade from 6- to 1+ depending on which school/class you go to, some classes/schools only 13 points to get a one 1+(100%) but the more difficult classes need 15 points to get a 1+. Then, all the sheets, tests, exams and other factors are calculated to give you final grade, on your zeugnis(report card) it will say the numbers, but in my class when you complete a test, the teachers just tell you how many grade points you got and you have to figure it out yourself.
In the primary school. In like first and Second class, you go home at 11:15 to 12:15
About the grades:
The students usually get grades using the 1-6 system. 6 is the worst grade and the system goes over 5-, 5, 5+, 4-, 4, 4+, ... up to 1+ being the best grade.
To pass the school year, your grades in your annual report have to follow certain rules:
1. No 6 in any subject
2. Two or less 5s in any subject
3. If you got a 5 in any subject, you need another subject with grade of 3 or better to compensate the 5. Only one 5 is allowed in any main subject. Main subjects are:
- Maths
- German
- English
- Physics or Chemistry (depends on school)
Students in higher school years (11th grade and higher) get grades using the 0-15 system. The 0 in this system equals the 6 in the common 1-6 system and the 15 equals the 1+ in the common system.
Well, yes, there are restrictions on homework at the weekend, but those are only for friday to monday homework, meaning that you can absolutely have homework over the weekend, but if it's given to you on friday, t can't be for monday. Friday to tuesday or thursday to monday is fine^^
12:15 well, Germany is pretty advanced in many ways- non of which are digital... the principal of my school recently told us that we had some teens from Ukraine, but they would'nt participate in any of our classes. They only need Wi-Fi to access their classes online. We were stunned, because for us that was hard to imagine, since we simply aren't developed that well digitally...
School days in elementary/primary school are usually 7:45-12:30 or something so the kids get home before lunch and do all their work there. Almost all secondary schools offer full days from 7:45-16:00, some with specific times set aside to do homework or projects while others will just have 10 45 minute periods of lessons with one of those set aside for lunch and 5-15 minute breaks in between.
I, specifically, went to a Christian elementary school with lessons from 7:45-12:00 with five minute breaks between classes and a half hour recess. Then I attended a sort of mixed school which offered all three types of school but had an additional two years (5-6 grade) of mixed classes. In sixty grade i was put into advanced studies where, aside from English which we already had, we got to choose latin or french as a third language. My school days were all 7:45-16:00 with 6 dedicated lessons for studying and homework, a 45 minute lunch time and a 15 minute recess before that. Every Wednesday was a half day with the afternoon (12:45) open for extracurriculars. In 7th grade we were separated and I was put into the Gymnasium where, in 8th grade I got to choose between an additional science class or Spanish as a fourth language. The dedicated homework time disappeared throughout the years and by grade 9 it was just full days of lessons.
Abitur is different from state to state. In Baden-Württemberg, where I finished my education, Most schools switched to a 9 year Abitur (5th-13th grade) but I still had the 8 year one. The last two years of Gymnasium are the ones that count towards your Abitur. The grading system changes and all your grades are recorded, all grades from those years count towards pretty much everything you want to do with your life afterwards. You need an Abitur to get into University. If you did Realschule then you can most of the time transfer to the 9th/10th grade of a Gymnasium and then do your Abitur there (so 1 year+ 2 years Abitur) or you can do an Ausbildung which is 3 years of paid job experience and schooling, oftentimes with employment at that place afterwards, which will allow you to go to a University for a subject related to your Ausbildung. If you did Hauptschule you could do a similar thing (+1 year Real +1 year Gym +2 years Abitur) but most of the time getting an Ausbildung or just starting employment is easier. It's separated that way to allow students to get into an academic career if it suits them or a more practical career without torturing them for years
So if you havent find out yet. The school cone with all the goodys is gifted by your parents, friends or other related. Usually the partens organize who is gifting to their child if not themselves.
My "Schultüte"/schoolcone was handcrafted by my parents for my brother (the eldest kid) and used again (filled with goodies) for me and again for my little sister. It was full of candy and cool school supplies and also had a small toy in it. We also had a religious service on the first schoolday. Met our teacher in classroom and got a big "Brezel"! The event of "Einschulung" endet with a foto, that was shot of all new schoolkids with their Brezel and their Schultüte on the staircases in front of the schoolbuilding.
Beer and wine at 16, everything else at 18. Prost 😄👍
Depending on what kind of secondary school you go, you can get less job oportunities. Like alot of the "good" jobs require a gradituation from the "realschule" or "gymnasium". Of course you can redo these gradituation after your own but that takes some years.
I went to a realschule and went on to a gymnasium. It helped me a lot to not have the huge pressure from the Gymnasium. They are often faster more pressure and I just needed that extra time. I went on to a gymnasium for my last 3 years and it was the best decision ever made. But I had a lot of friends who got the recommendation for Realschule but their parents wanted them to go to a gymnasium. Most of them failed there and had to come to the realschule just to later go on back to the gymnasium after finishing the realschule.
I am actually pro choice but... it was a lot of trauma and drama and pain for some of my friends... so... it is very difficult.... the teacher usually knows you pretty good.
I graduated school in 2016 and we didn’t have wi-fi! And my primary school used to be from 8-1pm too and we didn’t have a canteen, I went back there a while ago for an internship and this had definitely changed and kids have longs days with different activities now
I went to a Realschule (graduated 2010). It had, for the time, a good IT infrastructure but most of it was a pilot project. A projector in every class, the teachers had a PC at the front (obviously hooked up to the projector under the ceiling) and two classes (out of 4 to 5) of each year had lessons with a laptop. Problem was, most teachers didn't know anything about IT, so even though we had to bring the laptop to school (together with the books, since no lockers), it was only used about 40% of the time...
About the markings: in Switzerland we also have 1-6 but 6 is the best and 1 is the worst
About Homework on Weekends and during Holidays/ Vacations.
Weekends and Holidays are meant for "relaxation" and to prepare for the new week or school year.
If teachers give you Homework over the weekend it's mostly easy tasks, like reading a few chapters of a book that's covered in class.
At least that's what I had to do when I was still in School.
About the Schultüte, like it's covered in the Video, it's a Cone filled with sweets, stationary you'll need (like watercolors, pencil's etc.) and other goods.
My Mom made mine herself and I kept it until I was 20.
It was invented in Saxony but spread over all of Germany and it's meant to give kids who start school to give them a memorable experience.
In Germany we have a so called “Gymnasium” instead of the Highschool if you want to graduate after 13 years of school instead of 10. Those schools recently started using a new marking system where you get “mark points” instead of the actual mark. These go from 1 to 15 where 15, as said in the video, is the best. To get your actual mark, the 15 points are separate into 6 areas. If you got 0 mark points you automatically get the mark 6 but each section from 1 point is separate in three points, because you got marks like +5, -5, +1 or -1.
Das ist aber nichts Neues!
Recently? In my gym it was 1980.
6:57 in my opinion (as a german in 11th grade) Realschule is the most common school type because a larger number of pupils go to the Realschule than to the Gymnasium or Hauptschule.
i gotta add something to the typical german school day hours because they definitely vary on where you live and what school system you are in. i attened a gymnasium in bavaria which is the southern part of germany and i went to school for 12 years in total, not 13 like in many other parts. therefore i had a lot of afternoon classes that could end at either 3pm or 5pm. one year i had a lot of afternoon classes and school ended at 5pm on two days, 3pm on two days and 1pm on the other day
on our school we had a vote if we wanted too keep the lesson length the same or not. our lessons ended up really being an hour long but we had less lessons a day in exchange was practical in higher grades because teachers had time to explain instead of going: "yeah we should be doing this but we dont have time for it so next topic"
Schultüte: A gift for the kid from their family.
Lunch: No, you dont "need" one to make it through the whole school day if it entds arround 1PM
Grades: 1 equals A in the US system and 6 equals F in the US system. "Higher" numbers are only for almost-adult kids (11th-13th class).
The wood panel is not on the outdoors court but usually just wall decorations inside of the school's gym.
The different kinds of schools are not only based on what you want to do as an adult, but also on the abilities of a kid. In theory at least..
As germany has 16 states there are 16 school systems..its a mess. This video is highly simplyfied.
In my times the primary school teacher's recommendation was close to binding. Only 4 including me from my primary school class went to Gymnasium, because you needed to have high grades. This system got softer over time and ended up with parents sending kids to Gymnasium who actually weren't qualified and ultimately failed and had to move "down" to Realschule or even Hauptschule in order to pursue a different path of education. Only the Gymnasium qualified you for university after 13 years of school (or for Fachhochschule after 12 years). But those were the days I went to school and university.
meanwhile the gymnasium I go to:
-75 (or 60) minute lessons
-8am till 2 or 3pm
-I learn Chinese, Italian and English
-we have good toilets 💅🏻
3:35 all schools have from 1-6 (1 being the best) but FOS or other higher schools have 1-15, with 15 being the best (= a 1+ in primary school)
The „ Schultüte“ which we get at the beginning of school is handmade by your parents and gets filled with sweets and sometimes cute little things like special rubbers and stuff.
We can drink beer at 16 (or younger under supervision of our parents). And hard alcohol like Wodka and stuff at the age of 18.
There are different grading systems in Germany. Primary Schools usually go from 1+ to 6- while in secondary school, there is system from 15 to 1.
for the teacher recommendations...
in Berlin for example, our class teacher recommended which students should go to the Realschule or the Gymnasium based on how well they to on their reports. The parents had their final say in that, of course, but the teacher recommendation is extremely realistic. I went to a Gymnasium (which is the hardest of the three), and I had several people in my class who were recommended for Realschule. In the end, they left because the school was too hard for them and they ended up going to a Realschule anyway.
Regarding the "Schultuete - it is a cone shaped cylinder, which contains some sweets, maybe some coloured pencil, a little toy and similar things to make the start of school a bit easier on the kids. One can buy them or make them oneself
Our schools were very well ... oldschool xD u didnt rly need wifi or digitalization honestly but it seems now with covid parents/teachers and the students got in touch with more modernized schooling via tablets/PCs and want to keep it my sisters school rapidly upgrade in the past 2 years because of it now every class gets a iPad and classes get fully digitalized.
yes, some school already got rapidly upgraded, however some others are still totally left behind wiht almost no noticable change. My school for example has no tablets/laptops and a bad internet connection only avaible to teachers.
This system gives you a lot of freedom, for example: In elementary school, I was recommended to go to middle school. If you do middle school you are not allowed to study with this qualification. After middle school you can either do an apprenticeship or you can do your "Abitur" - which I did. Abitur is a qualification which allowes you to go to university. After 3 years I was allowed to study at a university (which I didn't do, but I could if I wanted to). In the end this is the best way for students who do not get good marks at the "Gymnasium", they switch to middle school, get better marks (cause its a bit easier), do their Abitur and still can study to become a medic. And if you dont go to private schools it doesnt cost you anything either.
@3:43 Some explanation about that: In primery schools got the grading system which goes from 1-6 (1 is the best and 6 the worst). But in secondary school they use a system where you have to collect points for your final grande. That means if your were very good at a test you get 15 points (which equals a 1+), and with every less point your grade goes down (14 = 1 ; 13 = 1- ... 0 = 6). You get this point for every test and befor the final test you have to have enough to get permited to the finals. And your final grade is kinda the average between your points from the finals and all the points you got before.
as a German my school does not make sense. they spent money on our 'self study center' to renovate it but most students haven't even been there once. but our toilets never have toilet paper and are just gross
12:19 Yep, but we are also very paranoid about data privacy. So, if a teacher wants to use whatsapp for communication... that is a problem. Whatsapp is not conform to EU digital privacy laws.
Also our politicians are SLOW to adapt digitalisierung.
When I was in primary school, the toilets for the building were only enterable from the outside of the building, so in winter it was freezing in there. They also were disgusting. That was 25 years ago... Guess what, it's still the same, nothing has changed. Thanks Germany 🙂
Actually my primary school teacher said I wouldn't have a chance at a "Gymnasium". Turns out, i finished my A level with a grade of 1.3
That proofs, this part of the system is a failure in my mind.
only my experience:
-you only get the 'Schultüte' (the cone) once (1st day, 1st grade), normally from your parents
-Primary School: classes from 8am-12/1pm (most schools offer a 'Frühbetreuung' so that kids get watched and the parents can go to work), you normally have a second breakfast break at about 10am and lunch at 12/1pm
-homework restrictions: the older you get, the more homework you have (and when you're about 16yrs old > no more restrictions)
-most schools didn't have wifi early 2020, but do now
In the eastern part of Germany we call the Schultüte "Zuckertüte" which means Sugarbag. It was meant to be to put only tons of candy inside. But nowadays kids get different stuff as you might image. :p
About that schoolsystem thing: Please dont see it as complicated as that lady in the video does: Simple way for most pupils: Primary school -> 1-4____secondary school -> 5-10, with an option from the 5th grade to go to the gymnasium wich is from 5-12, or from 10th-12th grade. depends on how good you are. Thats it for the most! Almost like it is in the US, but with different grades.
But, when you finished Gymnasium (which is like College) you can go to a University and study!
12:10 we are advanced but the government just doesn't give a shit what schools look like
About the whole homework on the weekends thing: The weekend should not be treated as having 2 extra days of studying time but instead more like a regular day, basically don't give extra homework just because the children have more time to do them, since the weekends should be their days to relax and do stuff outside of school. It does happen that you will sometimes get extra homework over the weekend since its not a law, but most of the time the homework won't be longer then homework given from one normal weekday to another.
About the marks: You get points from 0-15, with 0 beeing equal to the mark 6 and 15 beeing equal to the mark 1+, for example a 10 would be a 2- . In my school only the 11th and 12th grade would be scored with the points system, since a X- or X+ grade would be rounded to just X as a grade, while the points system allows for a more accurate evaluation, which is really important for your abitur where every single single extra point can count.
8:10 Gymnasium has nothing to do with gym or Sports.
It’s just like harder than the other schools. After the Gymnasium you can go make your Abitur.
Hello, I come from the southwest of Germany, so Baden Württemberg.
We have school here from 5th grade until 3:30 pm. However, it varies, because some schools start at 7:55, others already at 7:40.
There are schools where there is a five-minute break between the first and second hour and between the third and fourth hour or the fifth and sixth hour. But there are also schools that don't have those breaks.
Aside from that, most Gemeinschaftsschulen do not offer a Abitur. According to the paper, Gemeinschaftsschulen should offer all three degrees, but we don't have the teachers we need.
And one more little historical fact->.
Our school system is a remnant from the past that was supposed to separate society. Actually, it was not supposed to promote the individual, but to make sure that everyone goes to a school that corresponds to their standing in society. In other words, fathers should send their children to the same school they themselves have already been to, so that no one climbs the social ladder. The German school system is correspondingly ailing and should be urgently overhauled. The concept of Gemeinschaftsschulen or Gesamtschulen was of course a brilliant idea, but unfortunately it is poorly implemented. I can say from my own experience that most teachers do not voluntarily teach at a Gemeinschaftsschule because they actually want to go to a higher school to get a higher salary. because teachers are also prepared differently depending on what level they are supposed to teach at. Apart from that, the system around teachers in general is absolutely stupid. If you are not a civil servant but only an employee, you will most likely be dismissed during the summer vacations and will not get a salary for six weeks. You are not hired again until school starts and that is not even guaranteed. That means if they don't want you anymore, you don't have a job. In this case, fortunately, we have a shortage of teachers, so it is very likely that you will get your job back at the end of the summer vacations. Teachers are not role models anymore and getting a grip on the students nowadays is an absolute disaster. Teachers are no longer authority figures.
Just what I know.
PS. I am a Student.
I went from Hauptschule, to Wirtschaftsschule(business from of realschule) and then to the Fachoberschule (Different type of Gymnasium) so that i could go to university to study. In all that time i never had Wifi at school in the mid 2000 to earky 2010 years. The seperation by teachers after elementary school is just bad, if your parents have to saying or dont try to do anything. My parents originaly from turkey, so i have migration background, didnt talk with the teachers at all and i gor placed in Hauptschuleeven tho i think i could have easily went to Realschule or Gymansium and saved like 3-4 years of education to get to that point. Digitalisation is a huge problem in germany because all the "old" people just dont want to change their teachings. I cant remember any of my teachers using a PC in class, expect 1 teacher i had in the last year of my school life who just got a teacher.
The grading system is actually quite simple - once you get used to it.
In the "junior years", it ranges from 6 (worst) to 1 (best), with 6 and 5 basically being "failed". It's really just the A-F system, but with numbers.
However, in the senior years, smaller fractions matter more. So, in the senior years, it's a 0-15 points system. 0,1,2,3,4 means that you failed, 5 is a "barely passed". It allows for a more gradual evaluation of your skills, which is important for your documents.
0:53 These bags, or cones, are for sale at the start of school. You either buy one that is already filled or fill it yourself as a mother/father/grandma/grandpa. The contents usually consist of sweets, small gifts and starter packs for school. The school cone is a very popular gift for the start of school in the entire German-speaking area (Austria, Switzerland, Germany...) and every child must have a school cone on the first day of school!
Kids cant choose which school they want to go to! If youre a „bad“ student you have to go to the Hauptschule.
If youre a „ok“ student you can go to the Realschule.
And the Gymnasium is for the „best“ students
I dont like this system but im not the Gouvernment🫡🤣
Nope, there's a lunch period, usually. Only in cases of very conflicting lessons would they drop a lunch period. What Rachel probably wanted to say was that school cafeteria's aren't the norm in German schools. Kids usually have a lunch pack with them that they eat in a break room, or outside on the school grounds. The lunch boxes aren't the stereotypical plastic or tin boxes you might see in Fallout 4 or something like that. But they vary a LOT. Many have separate lockable compartments that separate more liquid foods from drier foods, such as yoghurts from a sandwich.
Grades go instead from A to F (skipping the E) from 1 to 6. Where an A is a 1, anf F is a 6. So instead of five gradiations there are six in German schools.
Only in the Gymnasium, the German high school, in the last three grades, does this switch. Why? Heck, I don't know, some stupid tradition, I'd wager. For me there never was rhyme or reason for that switch. In the Gymnasium you get grade points, with 1 being the lowest, and 15 being the highest. Again, no idea why. (Shrug, meh)
Latin is an absolutely great foundation for a huge number of languages, all commonly known as the Romance languages. Any word ending on -tion, -ous, -ious, as well as any prefixes like re-, pre-, in- are all based on Latin (or even earlier, Greek, which introduced many words to Latin). So if you know Latin all other similar languages like Spanish, Portugese, French, Romanian, and even a lot of English words become much more obvious and clearer. But the Greek empire was never as wide spread as the Roman empire, and didn't lasted as long. So the influence of Greek on modern languages, while still marked in the sciences, is less than Latin.
Latin, as well as Greek, are incredible bases to charge against bull-headed born-again Christians claiming their usualy BS about the Bible when you can go back to one of the earliest versions written, and can cite them the more or less original texts as written in the New Testament. Of course, Hebrew and Old Aramaeic would be even better if you want to go back to the Old Testament or the Tora. But Latin still helps a lot, as it cancels out a huge number of translation errors throughout the ages.
Sadly, I never got taught Latin, which I only now see as a major lack in my education. Obviously, during my school days I was exstatic not to have to learn the horrible declinations of Latin, a dead language nobody actual spoke anymore.
Abschluss in German is a degree or diploma. Welcome to the compound word horror (for any non-German speakers) that is the German language.
Hauptschule = main school. So a Hauptschulabschluss is a main school diploma. This is basically for trades or vocations at a somewhat lower scientific level. Or for not so skilled students.
Realschule = real school (naaah, that just doesn't translate well, though it literally means that; but again, shrug and meh). That is somewhat more science based, but still for higher trades, crafts, and vocations.
Gymnasium ~ High School. This is the school you have to pass to achieve a diploma allowing you to go to university for anything revolving around higher education.
Note: trades, crafts and vocations are not frowned upon as 'low skilled' or 'unskilled' work in Germany. Well trained vocational employees can get a wage similar to a middle management employee, depending on their vocation.
Drinking age: 14 at home under direct parental or guardian supervision for wine or beer (but normally not to excess), 16 without supervision for wine or beer, including buying them. Only hard liquors are limited to 18+, but then again free buying and drinking.
@4:50 learning latin helps you a lot in learning other languages, because as you said it is the basis of a lot of modern languages.
I've had a couple of years of Latin in school and even though I really don't understand any of it anymore, it does give me a fine basis of speaking French or Italian for example...
Greetings from Germany ^^ when I was a kid the school system was more complicated than now. We had (and still have) the Grundschule (Elementary school) from class 1 to class 4. But than you went to the Orientierungsschule. Translated word for word it means Orientation school. This school was only for class 5 and 6, and after the Orientierungsschule you have to go to the Hauptschule or Realschule or Gymnasium. But we don´t have the Orientierungsschule anymore. There is one more thing witch wasn´t in the video. The Hauptschule is for pupils who are... um... not so smart 😬 with an graduation from the Hauptschule it´s very hard to finde a good job. Most of the pupils don´t have a apprenticeship when they finish school. The Realschule is better but the Gymnasium is the best. By the way the part about languages ( 4:30 ) is not really correct. At the Hauptschule you learn only german and basic english. At the Realschule you learn german, english and french. The Gymnasium is the only school where you can learn latin. At the Gymnasium you learn german, english, latin, french and greek, and if you want it you can also learn italian, spanish and russian. Languages are a big thing in german schools 😉
Every German child loves their Schultüte :) sometimes it’s bought but usually it’s made at home together with the family. For me, we bought the basic cone and then decorated it and so on. Then the parents fill it with little things like sweets or class utensils, without the child knowing what’s inside. They only get it back from their parents on their Einschulung (enrollment) and once they’re sorted into their new class they can open it and discover what’s been put inside. It was really fun to compare with the other children and maybe exchange a few things :)
@09:37 "How do the kids get all these Rights???"🤔
Well, there might actually be people in government with some common sense.😁
I get that is a shock to you.🤣
In Croatia, throughout our entire education up until you graduate from college, we have a 1-5 grades system, with 5 being the best and 1 means you failed. We have grades 1-8 (so from age 6-14) which is called elementary school, then we have different types of middle school/high school which last 1-3 or 4 years (you can choose "gymnasium" which mostly prepares you for university or you can take up a technical school which prepares you for a specific technical profession or trades school which prepares you for a variety of different professions. There is also a medical middle school where you train to be a nurse or economics middle school where you train to take on some profession related to sales/supply in business. After each of these you have graduation and then you can enroll into university if you want, which can last different amount of time depending on the type of study chosen.
In high school / "gymnasium" type, we did have Latin for 2 years.
The grading system is as following:
A+ 15 \
A 14 | -> 1 (primary and middle school)
A- 13 /
B+ 12 \
B 11 | -> 2 (primary and middle school)
B- 10 /
C+ 9 \
C 8 | -> 3 (primary and middle school)
C- 7 /
D+ 6 \
D 5 | -> 4 (primary and middle school)
D- 4 /
E+ 3 \
E 2 | -> 5 (primary and middle school)
E- 1 /
F 0 -> 6 (primary and middle school)
The “point“ system (15-0) is only used in the last 3-4 classes of school (kind of like highschool I guess) and are there to get a more detailed view of your notes (with the plus and minus) since you don’t have those kind of “notes between notes” (A > A- | B+ < B) in the lower classes. Idk why it is so complicated though, instead of just using one grading system like the US does lol
07:40 - I agree and I oppose this "inclusion for inclusion's sake". I think this more than often overburdens teachers in regular schools that have plenty of problems already with their "normal" students. I don't see it as wrong sending children who are either physically too handicapped (or lack the basic mental capacities to be able to follow classes) to special schools that can cater to their respective needs *much* better. It doesn't mean that they aren't loved or that people want to "exclude" them or "shut them away", quite the opposite.
I just wrote quite a lengthy comment to this 🤗
Yes after year 4 schools they told you what they think your options are. And not whether some teachers hate someone did play a role it was based on your grades and how you were perceived. It was binding before. It no longer is which basically means that parents send their kids to Gymnasien going for the highest level qualification no matter if the child was suited for that. Not everyone is good with reading and thinking. Others are more practically oriented so why make those learn latin etc. that is what hauptschulen were designed for originally. Sadly they became the melting pot for the lowest parts of society.
about the grading: instead of A..F we have 1..6 *grades* , but in some gymnasiums (depending on state) you'd be essentially only told 15..0 *points* in higher classes (until then everything gets tallied up to a grade on your final exam), with each 3 numbers corresponding to a "normal grade" and its +/- variant. so 15..13 points is a 1+ to 1- (A+ to A-), 12..10 is a 2 (B), .... , and 0 points is a 6 (F). and the threshold for passing a class is 5 points or grade 4 (anything under is just "how badly did you screw up", with 0 points essentially meaning you didn't even show up).
I remember at every school actually that we had to pay by ourselves for food in highschool or middle school whenever students made something or highschool had a cafeteria, but my middle school and primary school had no such canteen. They had an area where kids came together to sit and in primary school there was just the school recess yard and you brought your own food from home.
it's very true that German is a bit old-fashioned still. I was surprised that as a Dutch person applying in Germany has become a bit digitalised but people are still sending maps with their application form and everything to firms and companies. We don't really do that in the Netherlands anymore. If I show up at a store to apply because they have an ad in their store for it they redirect me to their website or send an e-mail.