Running the Microwave Pyrolysis Reactor (Turning Plastic into Fuel!)
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I always wanted to make a pyrolysis system, but I never thought about using microwaves. That is genius.
Thank you! I encourage you to make one, it's a lot of work but it's worth it :)
That's brilliant !!! True genius Indeed!!!
You can turn literally trash, and even fish scales now (using this tech) to make high end LED diodes (better than samsung or cree, they say). Big research in japan just found.
Study out of japan
(Fabrication of ultra-bright carbon nano-onions via a one-step microwave pyrolysis of fish scale waste)
This is next level in terms of making grow lights for plants (trillion dollar industry that samsung is dominating big in right now)
@@naturejab can you give us some guides to how to make it?
To help with the unreacted plastic you could use a "stirrer" like they put in some high end kitchen microwaves. It's a small fan looking blade placed in the wave guide that moves with the aid of a small motor. As the blade moves it deflects the waves around the inside of the microwave helping to prevent hotspots
Thanks!
Man... why dont they use this in regular microwaves 😆 i take its too unaffordable for consumers?
@@dertythegrower They actually do in Japan, and their microwaves are not particularly expensive either, and they work way more evenly. I was so confused when i first went to use the microwave in my hotel and there was no rotating plate in the center, jarring really. Apparently the rotating plate was a gimmick feature added early on, and just stuck as the main way to even out the heating
How will it move within the plastic ?
There is no reactions going on here. Microwaves are just a really shitty heat source when it comes to warming up plastics.
I am really looking forward to seeing more videos on your progress!
You’re obviously very intelligent, and you’re an articulate speaker, so your video is easy to watch and very informative!!
Please continue experimenting and posting videos, I want to see what more ideas you come up with
"Trace amounts of cardboard" = 1/2 cardboard
Also, knowing it's "some multiple of 4" while not clearly seeing it's 8 is pretty cool man. Glad you are eyeballing everything and trying to sound really smart
Great job getting out there and doing this stuff. So far I'm only in the theory stage. I had the same idea about the bubbler! If you get it working that would be awesome to see.
Thanks!
How is it now
What if you made a "shaker" system that allowed the carbon to fall to the bottom as the reaction was occurring so that new plastics are better exposed to the microwaves?
Also how about an auto-feed system to feed in plastic "blocks" and pull out old carbon so that you can have the system continually running?
Anybody else worried about this mans safety? I truly hope he gets this running on a large scale but we know what happens to folks with tech like this…
No bruh you watch too much TV
@@salvyballacc ever heard of Stanley Meyer?
@@thisisstooopid nope
@@thisisstooopid how Stanley was poisoned I pray this will not happen again
@@salvyballacc i think you watch to much propaganda :) people died- disappeared many times… these things are very smart. but it's best for him to not try to go big with this in public atleast
Wow! Really impressive. Thank you so much for this video! I have been researching plastic pyrolysis methods and hadnt seen this yet! Im inspired
I'm very glad to hear you've been inspired!
This is pretty awesome. With some more donor ovens you could make a radial arrangement of magnetrons around the outside to reach really high energy levels.
Excellent work, keep at it!
Dude, I'm blown away by you! You're amazing.
Very cool! Keep up the great work!!
Hey, I've ever come across two Julians in my life, the first person was intelligent and now this man is also incredibly intelligent. Glad to have come across Nature Jab! Big fan
Wow this is incredible! I can't wait to see this progress
Is the remaining ash toxic? I've heard that it is unable to be used because it still has remaining toxicity in it. What is your knowledge and experience on it? If it's not toxic, it would be great to make natural fertilizer out of it!
The remaining ash is actually just carbon, and the carbon is very porous. With its high surface area, it traps most heavy metals and things that would otherwise be free, therefor it is not toxic. The only potentially toxic thing about it would be if the plastic is not completely degraded, so there are microplastics left on it.
It can be activated and used as biochar / fertilizer while sequestering carbon at the same time!
Thanks!
Damn! We need to keep this man safe
Missing already
The microwave might have got him 😭 please be safe, backyard scientist 🙏
@@ihechiturukanu1496 are you fucking kidding?????
If you add a little bit of silicon carbide sand you can get it up to a higher temperature, it makes a better susceptor or as you say catalyst.
On the note of scrubbing, water is also great because the Sulfur/SOx would be turned into Sulfuric Acid which is probably easier to handle and more useful.
Granted it may be less efficient. If you don't need it as a Flashback Arrestor (instead using the ones one would use on an Oxy-Fuel Torch) you could maybe use a spray tower or packed column? More Surface Area = More Win
Stay safe bro and share your blueprints with the world
Awesome dude, watch out though. Last dude that had and alternative to the oil company’ fuel got pinched.Stay safe man
Dude !your invention reminds of the scene in Back to the Future when doc loads his time machine with trash and banana pills.
@@firebug1337 Thank you!
Yup, everything is untapped potential energy! 369
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Saw you on tiktok. I didn't believe it at first. I am hoping for your success dude!
Thank you so much!
Great video and incredibly impressive,!
I decided to go back and see how many videos I missed since CZcams stop sending me notifications, apparently two years and I got a lot to catch up on.
I did say I was one of your first subscribers.
GREAT DON'T STOP YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA YOU CAN USE THE ASH FOR BRICK BLOCKS I HOPE TO SEE MORE IN THE FUTURE
Thank you so much!
How much energy do you use to get the end product and how efficient is it? Also what other nasty pollutants are being realised?
You've done great job.
Very cool. Any idea of the energy efficiency in general? i.e on a 4 hr run how many BTU or what ever of gas etc did you collect / use? I've spent time looking into wood gas generation and gassification / pyrolysis and the addition of micro to the process would be interesting. Again, very cool set-up!
Thank you! Right now this reactor is flawed in many design decisions so I am not taking measurements on this one. Im in the works of creating a better reactor that I will take accurate measurements on.
@@naturejab Understood.... there always seems to be a next tweak or a next what ever lol. Thank-you!
Do you run the Aragon the whole time or just certain period of time then stop it?
wow this is so sik! keep up the work!
Kid is a genius! Mad scientist. Very cool design my friend!
Thank you!
Well done.
So is the catalyst necessary or is it just to speed up the procces
When you find your passion, it becomes addicting!
Exactly 💯
Have you considered using vegetable oil and or tallow as a feedstock?
Great idea!!
Are you using any kind of temperature control inside the "reactor" or are you just blasting it full power with a microwave magnetron at 1kw?
that is the craziest bong I have ever seen
Neat chemistry here, very ingenuous
Thank you!
How much power does the magnetron need?
Because of this, i remember the movie “BACK TO THE FUTURE 2 and 3, doctor brown used garbage to fuel
Up his flying car, this reactor is not far away those movie
What us spec of your microwave how much power what frequency
This is awesome
How did you get the microwave generator/system itself? Did you create it from scratch or did you take it from an already pre existing microwave?
Got it from domestic microwave ovens
I really like your safe set up. Good that u are using argon, with carbon dioxide and other inert gasses.
Thank you!
amazing video
I have little knowledge on this subject but to fix the issue of the carbon produced during the reaction absorbing the microwaves and preventing the plastics at the bottom from being heated up, maybe just have microwaves on both the top and the bottom. But I’m sure you thought of that and may have found issues with that idea.
Very neat. Would love to see that on an industrial level
Thanks!
at the end of the day how much fuel did u made?
Hey brother, this is intriguing.. how are you able to do this?
I'm planning on making one. Can I use empty propane tank with a top that I can screw on and off for the main melting area
Awesome! The more built the better! Yes, and old propane tank will work. just make sure you have a gasket to keep it airtight. Thanks for watching!
Congratulations dude, great job.I have one question, what do you do with pvc? because is toxic if you pyrolisates
Thank you! The PVC creates Hydrochloride Gas which can be dissolved in water to form Hydrochloric Acid.
@@naturejab Pyrolysis is a messy chemical process, the chlorine can also recombine with the hydrocarbons to make various chlorocarbons as in bad for ozone and carcinogenic, even a tiny bit collagenic like nerve gas. .( I don't know if I spelled that right but I meant a acetylcholine inhibitor, whatever the medical word is for that)
Some powdered zinc and aluminumin in the filters should help with that, as long as the aluminum surface is active without oxygen(add a drop of gallium) it'll pull away the chlorine from the hydrocarbons and make alcl3! Which of course can be resold to chemists as a reagent at high prices for more profit! Thank you you're welcome.
I came here to advise against any Teflon or PVC in a pyrolysis run for many reasons for the amateur who might attempt to do this at home, instead in my last comment I just gave you the solution for free!. Not like I can get any investors for mine .... The world needs it, what can I say?
I also suspect that the activated aluminum and zinc would help with the dioxin formation, but I don't know anybody with a gas chromatograph to test it. If you want to build a corporation and get partnerships for your idea make sure you include an analytics lab!
@@petevenuti7355 amazing solutions here, thanks Pete!
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That's awesome dude. Any possible way you can tune the magnetron to a better frequency specifically for plastics?
No, only a new magnetron specifically tuned (915 mhz) could work, you can't tune magnetrons built for a specific frequency easily.
@@naturejab do you have any idea in what’s involved in making a magnetron frequency change?
Hello, great stuff again man!
could a man use a vacuum cleaner to suck the air out of the reactor instead of the (more expensive) gas? ;-)
and how many ml was the yield? What is the single largest batch in terms of yield You've done?
have a joyous day :-)
Superb bro how was your generator running i mean which fuel u used to run generator ?
The gas or the liquid can be used to run a generator, but the syngas is easier to use since its already clean
If it were cleaned up with less sketchy wiring, I’d buy one!
WAY more efficient than fire pit version, very low heat loss.
Only downside is that it requires inert gas input, which isnt free.
What is the wattage used? Is there any way to detect that there is nothing left to volatize?
It's 1000W, 1 kWh. Currently the only way to detect when everything is done is to wait for the gas to stop being produced.
@@naturejab arduino with a voc detector might be a way to go. I am also curious the total btu produced per input electricity. Asia has a major plastic problem. And they need fuel. This might solve both. More people would recycle if they get free (or very low cost) fuel in exchange. Set it up as a self serve kiosk, they run cycle, walk away with a tank of gas.
@@davecole6560 Precisely, a closed and circular economy.
Modern technology can be used to farm methane with your kitchen waste and lawn waste in two one cubic meter plastic containers. You can compress those methane fully automated into a light-weight, installable propane tanks for charging your Aptera in the backyard 7/24. If you don't use them to charge your Aptera, you can use them to cook your food or warm your house as well. All kitchen waste will become fertilizers eventually, which you can sell/donate to vertical/roof-top organic farms around metropolitans.
Have you thought about premelting the plastics so you have a more compressed source materials?
Later on with a continuous process, yes
Aren't dioxins a byproduct of the breakdown of chlorinated plastics like PVC?
Only in the presence of oxygen. Since pyrolysis is anaerobic, dioxins cannot form.
Why not use a vacuum pump and gauges to get no oxygen, also are you using magnetron to microwave plastic in a sealed vacuum?
I'm not sure about the liquid but could you basically do the same thing as those wood powered engines?
Wood gasifiers?
PH means power of hydrogen.
Low PH means it has lower than average hydrogen ions. Making it acidic. When you run it through a water bath, it picks up extra hydrogen ions out of the water, and this helps neutralize the gas.
May I know what gasket you use on your reactor?
A high temperature Silicon Gasket. I previously Used a fiberglass rope gasket, but that leaked oil, so now I use a 1/8th thick 12/12" silicone sheet cut to size.
@@naturejab Greatly appreciate your reply, I am working on a pyrolysis plant myself for a school project. Thank you
@@maurice7186 Excellent! Im glad to hear that :) Good luck!!
My concerns are regulating temps. You can absolutely make diesel for sure but the plastic needs to be vaporized at 360/380 degrees F i believe to create Diesel fuel vapors that can be condensed through a worm cooler . If the temp is too high you basically make paraffin fuels (wax based ) too thick. I work in the oil industry and we have to keep reactors at certain temps depending on the type of fuel / oil we are producing out of crude oil obviously. I really like your design man. You definitely have the right idea going on for sure !
Thank you for your comment! I definently agree, temperature maintenance is my biggest issue and the flaw with using microwaves, there are some sophisticated means of managing the temperature that I have yet to try. The too high of temperature is what I've been experiencing, as I get tons of has production but not much oil production.
@@naturejab maybe add a thermostat to cycle the magnetron on an off.
Isnt it anywhere easier to process the paraffin later on with other equipment? Process control gets normalized for specific input.
@Concept ofEverything I agree and this was always my plan. To create and run a seperate refinery that runs off the syngas in order to turn the oil into fuel
@@naturejab
What do you do with the ash?
That microwave is gonna be your biggest energy dump production wise.
Brilliant
Bro if its only carbone ashes at the end...do you thing it can be use for lab Diamond growing?😳
I don't suppose it makes a difference but grocery bags are HDPE while things like bread bags are LDPE and packing tape is usually PP.
I realized I should qualify my statement. "Only a Sith deals in absolutes..." In the United States, you will get LDPE plastic bags from retailers, but LDPE bags are "nicer" (I would have to believe they are more expensive, too). You are more likely to get LDPE at say a book store or a clothing store or nice department store, while you will almost certainly get an HDPE bag at the grocery store, a market, or a Walmart. Anyway the video is about using microwaves to pyrolyze some plastics. Back to where any of this matters, PP is transparent to microwaves while PE's readily absorb them. If you have a lot of packing tape in the batch would it not be more efficient to exclude the tape?
Haven’t seen you in a while what happened on TikTok. Also I would suggest getting a vacuum pump to pull air out
Could you use this on synthetic fabrics like polyester and faux fur?
Hell yea, everything!
@@naturejab You're doing great work out here my friend, God bless you
@@juliushayes9028 Thank you!
carbon char left over can be steam reformed to flammable H2 hydrogen gas, flammable CO carbon monoxide, and inflammable CO2 carbon dioxide by injecting tiny amounts of water at a time. The carbon rips oxygen away from water leaving hydrogen behind. A minimum of 600c is needed while 800c might be more preferable. The reaction first makes carbon monoxide and is strongly endothermic storing lots of energy. If it hangs around long enough or too much water is added the carbon monoxide reacts with another water molecule making carbon dioxide. This second reaction is mildly exothermix. The overall reaction is that the remaining hydrogen has more stored energy than the charcoal did.
Working on a table outst and under a rooftop.
Could be useful 😉
How many watts are you running in the microwave with the fan?
About 70 W
Very cool. I'm looking forward to watching it evolve.
@@wesKEVQJ thank you!
If the plastic gets shredded will it burn evenly and completely?
In theory, yes. Shredding will only help the process!
Its been 2 yrs, how are you??
Can this system make liquid fuels?
Add some autocleaning vessel in the reaction chamber with critical acetone
You might put the microwave on the bottom and the exit port on top. It seems like that would be a better way get the oil out.
microwave on bottom would be much more efficient. gas output could then be mounted on top. magnetron would not heat up as much because heat of reaction would not be constantly rising up into it, so less fan power required. Also, when the catalyst carbon is heated up by the microwaves, they are currently sitting on top of the unreacted materials. The heat from the catalyst currently has to travel DOWN to react the unreacted material. If magnetron was mounted beneath reactor, then the heat of the catalyst would naturally flow upwards into the unreacted materials.
Great points here, unfortunantly a weird effect happens when magnetrons are placed at the bottom, they destroy themsevles.
@@naturejab how are they destroyed? Can this be avoided?
@NatureJab I thought plastic can not melt on microwave oven?
We must use a susceptor
Excellent work man, Could I ask how would you feel if I were to propose this to the Irish government or to the EU, honestly it seems like the perfect way for us to get rid of plastic and transition towards wood and papered wax and glass. Recycling only perpetuates the use of plastic but this would help getting rid of it while providing us with fuel!
God Bless!
-Szymon M
So could the gas be piped into a propane bottle for storage?
Yes
Great job!! I want such plot, but completely solar-powered.
You and me both!
@@naturejab I am hundreds steps away. But you're only 1 step away from this Goal.
@@saibabagarden Stay motivated, a forest takes decades to grow!
@@naturejab In next life at least..
@@saibabagarden You may always start now. It's not always about the finish as much as it is about the journey.
Dude!!!!! This is killer!!!! Is there any reason that you couldn’t use this microwave system on a wood gasification unit?
Thanks! This could be used in gasification, it would just require a different design.
Hi Julian .. just came across your channel .. the plasma stuff is informative and educational too. Thanks.
I am trying to design a plasma incinerator and any advise from you would help. How may I contact you ? John
Naturejab@gmail.com
Also I have my contacts in the description
@@naturejab thanks.. will write you soon. Cheers
How many amps and boots l volts does this take?
1000 kwh
@@naturejab kwh or wh? I dunno where you could plug into 1000kwh
@bryaniskoo 1000 kilowattt hours
It plugs into a standard 110 port
@@naturejab I think that's 1kwh
u could melt the plastic whit a bit of solvent ,like acetone i belive? or gasoline.... nor maby just put the unther a heavy cilinter and press it , like wood pellets
Great idea! If the plastic can be liquified beforehand that would make the process infinitnly more efficient.
Is the gas produced compressable?
Yes! I compress it in a later episode.
Love the idea never thought to use microwaves scrap microwaves ovens are easy to come! However all fuels ⛽ are carcinogenic, gasoline included... Except maybe unadulterated ethanol but it's federally illegal to distill that at home.😂
Cool are u going to make more oil from the plastics?
That's the goal, I'm experimenting with catalyst which should increase the oil yield.
Are you aware of industrial scale implementations of this process?
Because I remember reading about a similar machine for recycling worn out tires using microwaves. The big difference being that thing was a lot bigger than your setup.
Yea, currently I am not aware of a big microwave plant that does plastic however, so that's my big focus
@@naturejab The machine is called the "Hawk 10". It was mention in a few science and technology magazines back in 2007.
@@Bratbaticus Thanks! Will look this uo
MAKE THAT CHANGE!!!!!
You should try used cooking oil in the reactor
My only criticism is all that power being used to power the magnetron, is the power used more or less than the power of the fuel and gas created?
We'll have to see with the next reactor, which I will take measurements with.
With the problem power u can build a fueled generator to generate electricity and us it for the reactor
Reason you shouldnt try pvc pvc with that setup is my understanding that gasified pvc builds clorine acid at regular steel pipes and you need stainless pipes and vessel for contain it. Otherwise you burn that thing trought quite fast.
My guess is that, commercially, the potential for a stray piece of metal to make its disastrous way into the waste-based feedstock is enough to scare away professional owner/operators.
Also intentionally causing variations in the frequency of microwaves, like modulation, will cause the microwave peak nodes and hot spots in the pyrolysis container to move around doing the same job as a rotating plate does in a food cooking microwave without the need of putting a unnecessary shaft through the otherwise sealed container that also needs to be sealed! Therefore reducing complications and cost while improving efficiency.
Tip these are all technical details investors are not going to want to hear or read in a business plan, but are likely problems that may be brought up during due diligence later in the investment process to be prepared with..
If you incorporate, for a few shares I would be happy to continue to help just contact me. If I just had three people locally with similar interests to work with, I would be building a $500,000 pilot plant for 2 million right now!
The world needs this and I want to be a part!
nice
If none of you know this guy died
Really?
These videos of yours are inspiring. I would like very much if you can share you design. I'm from Mexico and I'm currently studying an undergrad in environmental engineering.
I will be making a detailed video of the designs of all my reactors including the first few prototypes at some point. For now, I'm still currently building this reactor, so I can't put out a final design schematic yet. Thanks for watching!