1783 How To Make A Reed Multi Use Veg Oil Stove
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You, sir, are the Bob Ross of inventing. You joyfully deliver ingenious inventions. It makes my day when you post a new video.
lol - cheers mate
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I come here for the therapeutic value as much as the educational/practical. Everything is all right in the world as long as The Professor is joyfully delivering lecture. I have a question, however, that relates more to the outside demonstrations & experiments: What do the neighbors that show up in the background from time to time think of all this?! 🤔😅
They probably think he is not quite as anyone else but he does fix all their problems 😂😂😂😂
lol - they think ham slightly mad!
@@ThinkingandTinkering Only Slightly mad?!Lol!
Not sure if Slightly is the appropriate word, however, you are the Best kind of crazy to be quite honest!!
And very much appreciated by the vast majority of people here!!🙂👍
@@ThinkingandTinkering Slightly Mad is the best way to be NO ONE questions what you are doing or why xx
Slightly mad is still mostly sane!
Brilliant, I would’ve never thought of using a flipping mop. Brilliant.
cheers mate
that what I use since its a lot cheaper than felt
Your stoves are my favorite projects...and timely indeed.
cheers mate
I've only recently discovered this channel, and I've found that I learn something very useful in just about every episode. The method demonstrated for crimping the ferules on the copper pipes was very ingenious. Thank you.
Thanks for the translation. ferules = olives?
@@RM-fu8yb Here in the US plumbers and other tradesmen refer to those brass compression pieces as ferrules (I misspelled in my first post). 👍
cheers mate
You represent the mind of the classic inventor.... Work and knowledge. And, after that more work. And, after that more WORK while keeping an eye on the knowledge....I truly appreciate what you do and seriously hope it resonates with many on the discipline and time it requires to GET IT DONE.
this is perfect for everyone. Inexpensive to run with easily available fuel. Even those on tight budgets can make one of these, maybe not exactly,but would not be hard to improvise with stuff around the house.
Another wonderful video. I don't know how you do it day in and day out, but I am sure grateful that you do.
cheers mate
Awesome yet again Robert may i wish you and your team a very happy Christmas and a successful 2023.
thank you mate and all the best to you and yours
Thank you Evan!! Great Idea!! This is what my Hubby will be getting for his Christmas this year!!
Awesome idea and, Thank you Robert for making this video!! ....XxX....
cheers Andrea
Love your site!❤️ Thank you for taking the time to share with us. I have learned a lot from the videos and the comments. Thank you to everyone for participating.
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Hi Robert .you could also use the copper inserts that are inserted to strengthen Qualpex Pipe at connection points with compression olives .
that is clever thinking - I would think so
Just a peanut from the gallery, for anyone, whoever would want to try. Glass mat, or glass wool might be worth a shot for a veg oil burner wick. Longer, even continuous fiber, might draw the thicker fuel through better? Autoparts store beside the Bondo, or maybe someone might have some access to some second hand fiber optic cable, tedious stripping lol. Might be months before I chase that squirrel, but might be worth a shot. I know old kerosene/paraffin heaters had fiberglass wicks, I don't have any clue what the resin was.
nice tips mate - cheers
@@ThinkingandTinkering Thanks. If someone had ahold of some fiber optic, there might even be enough heat conduction down into the veg oil fuel to keep it going? Thawing fish on a glass plate, kinda just hit me lol.
Awesome skills and knowledge, and so great presentation!!!
Your knowledge and inventiveness is legendary Robert.
wow - cheers mate
Rob, I have another potential addition, a "Samovar" type water boiler. A pair of those ring cake tins with a hole in the middle, a normal cake tin in between, appropriately sealed, and a connecting tube (bog brush holder). The marine heater would heat the water directly from the bottom, and from the centre as that would now serve as the exhaust. If a small outlet pipe a inch or so below the surface, and an inlet extending to the bottom were added, it will operate by displacement. Hold an empty mug below the out spout, pour cold water in the inlet, water level rises, boiling water lcomes out.
please make one and make a video on your channel. I would love to see it, especially if it's easy to make so we can all have one for off grid or emergencies.
Always love your work, Robert! Last year, I was in Aldi, & saw those 'straws',. I didn't see straws, I saw nice stainless steel tubes... 😂
Very cool way of getting rid of old cooking oil. Good job mate and merry Christmas
Up to three years ago I was using a Ripping-Giles parafin heater that used exactly this style of burner ring with 8 long tail wicks. It was my only source of heat. This was one of the few, very few parafin heaters that used multiple thin wicks instead of one large diameter wicks. Burning through the wicks was a constant problems because of the government legislation making parafin considerably more taxed meaning expensive than heating oil which is a heavy weight oil by parafine standards, yet lighter than cooking oil used here. The burning away wick issue was only solved by Ebay or by a company called Base Camp in Littlehampton, to buy more. I wished I knew of the mops. I had a B&Q ten minutes down the road.
The Ripping Giles had an inner wick holder that slid up into the fixed tubes on the upper ring, and this controlled how much wick actually came out to the top ring burner plate, a shaft via a small gear with knob on it being bought out to the user. A short 4 or 6 inch high 'chimney' with many tiny holes drilled into its inner ring terminated on to a stainless gauze that would glow red hot, while a parabolic polished aluminium reflector sent the infra red rays of heat into the direction to be heated.
I laughed aloud seeing Robert light his, and using some 'extra' ignition fluid to get it going, plus the soaking time [really important for longer life of the wick] because this is exactly what I learned to do.
Mr Ripping Giles was listed as a 'lamp maker' on the patent application for this heater design and his production kept his family financially well off and warm. This is all it takes to make a business out of something simple.
Just what Robert is doing here, without the patent and less of the finance bit.
Cheers mate :)
very nice post mate - lots of ideas there - love it
You are a crazy ANGEL my friend! I am so glad the algorithms exist sometimes... Thank you. I promise to try to put it to good use💖✨️🙏✨️
I hope it helps mate - I really do - thanks for the suggestion
I am a Hospital pharmacist by trade so this is bit out of my wheel house... I really do appreciate you sharing your knowledge and inventions. I imagine there are a lot of people safely warmer and maybe even off the grid with your help this Winter and it has really helped me pick a direction to start building prototypes✨️🙏✨️
This is the holy grail of everything. Thank the stars for this man and his content. Keep on keepin on ;)
Robert, I am enjoying all your heating videos. I have a project for you to consider. I would like to make a batch fuel heater to keep a greenhouse warm at night. My idea is a Finnish-candle/rocket-stove combo. I am thinking of filling a canister with enough wood chips to go all night and run a perforated tube up the middle (open at the bottom) with a stove pipe over the whole thing. My thinking is that the tube in the middle will make it into a finnish candle, and the holes that form above the wood chips as it burns down will form the gasifier. I do not know if this scheme will work, or if another configuration would be better.
Please consider this challenge to make either this design or another that will provide a clean burn from wood chips that will not need refueling overnight. I look forward to seeing what you can come up with.
Great stuff watching you make this multi-use stove thankyou Professor Rob.
I first came upon the alternative use of a cotton mop-head when I got sent to Pentonville prison in the late 1980's (3rd offence for drink driving--6 month sentence, out after 3 months) when I saw another inmate home-made cigarette lighter.
Because lighters weren't allowed a mop-head strand was enough to form a glowing end when sparked from an empty lighter which then glowed enough to light the fag up.
Smoking is now banned in prison so being sent down must be doubly tough when you cannot smoke, but it has to be better for your health and in any case, tough shite, you do the crime, you do the time.
nice story mate - thanks for sharing - funny how experience and knowledge can be gained all the time from anywhere even a place most would think not
Dear Robert, Happy New Year to you. I think that I speak for many others in saying that you remain an inspiration to all those that view your work. Your vast knowledge, continuous curiosity and your willingness to apply what you know, is incredibly stimulating to so many of us. I wish you renewed strength, enthusiasm and perseverance in our next trip around the sun. Bon Voyage!
I have no idea why I hadn't seen your content until now, but you are a diamond and your videos are great! Merry Christmas bud!
Hi Rob I’m loving this series of heater/lamp builds and it actually inspired me to make one out of a jar and a bean can. I don’t know if this would help with your problem of getting the wicks to light more easily; I remember seeing an episode of Top Gear many years ago and they ran an old diesel car on a litre of cooking oil, but they added some white spirit. At least I think it was white spirit and I think it was just 1 teaspoon. I don’t know if this will work or not but it might be worth a try 🤷♂️
Pretreat the wicks in vinegar 👍
nice suggestion - cheers mate
Happy Hannukah Robert... seems especially appropriate for this video 😁
I really like your series on heaters.
This morning I built a proof of concept version of your radiant heater that uses a screen mantel and methanol. I was stunned by how much heat it produced.
I did deviate by using a 5 inch mantel made from an old window screen that appears to be some rather sturdy alloy of aluminum, a fiberglass wick and denatured ethanol as fuel. Interestingly the mantel took the heat without any apparent damage thus I am not exactly sure of the metals composition other than it glowed very nicely a hot cherry red from wick to tuna can cap.
My only issue is as another pointed out and that is the fuel is not exactly cheap at $18 a gallon here in the states for camp stove fuel that I assume is methanol and $9 for, I am thinking 16 ounces, of denatured alcohol; so I can see why your series on destructive distillation is a good companion for the series.
Actually I want to start from the beginning of the series at around the 1700 mark and sequentially go thru each video. I did catch, in the back ground, as I worked on a project the simple rocket stove that used twigs as a source for its interesting fuel and likely will give that a go since here in the Catskill mountains of New York trees are plentiful.
Thanks for the series, much appreciated by myself and my Australian Shepard companion that despite a fur coat likes a bit of heat too.
I must check out the Ali screen - I used stainless steel which is not the best for radiant heat but will stand temperatures which is why I didn't use Ali - interesting thank you for sharing
@@ThinkingandTinkering The window screen I used was rather old. I'd say 20 years. It was of the type you could buy separate from the window and it adjusted to fit many openings by having two overlapping parts that slid in or out. It was not rusty so not steel and cut with paper scissors and I have to assume some form of aluminum from having been exposed to stainless mesh which is a bit harder to cut and the screening had the typical slightly oxidized look I associate with aluminum. Must say. It worked beautifully and did not lose its ability to maintain its shape at all.
Also, one other deviation was due to using fiberglass where I pulled off a layer from a roll I have in the shop. Since I knew it might not be all that easy to take the inner can out to refuel the burner I drilled a pilot hole in its bottom that is on top when assembled and then using a step bit enlarged it to around 9/16 of an inch.. Made it easy to fill it back up for additional uses.
Very awesome Mr. Smith!
glad you liked it mate
Rob, if I may a suggestion, waste cooking oil, that obtained from most restaurants anyhow, can be quite dirty. One of the really attractive features of biodiesel is that in the process of converting the used cooking oil to the methyl esters, almost all of those undesirable components are removed with the glycerin & soap byproduct. Obviously there is some of the glycerin (which could make fuel) but the cleaner lighter fuel more than makes up for the loss, in my mind at least. Remember, vegetable oils have molecular wts of between 700-800 grams per mole, biodiesel components are 1/3 as heavy.
Keep in mind that to make stove fuel, you don't necessarily need to purify the biodiesel to the same degree as for motor fuel, you can tolerate some impurities. As such you can probably use an abbreviated one step process in a metal pail, & simply pour off the biodiesel, leaving the solid byproduct behind, & avoid the washing. etc.
I did do a video on making bio diesel from waste cooking oil mate
I prime my fiberglass wicks with a little bit of toilet tissue, unused of course. Pinch the tip of the wick in a square centimeter of tissue to soak it with oil, then light. The tissue burns hot enough to start the oil evaporation. Just have to wipe off the wick between burns.
I can't get any of my fiberglass wicks to stay lit. I'll try a bit of tissue soaked in methanol as per your suggestion cheers.
@@lagunafishing It also helps to use a carburetor/chimney to get it burning and keep it going. As Robert mentioned in another video, oil takes a lot of oxygen to burn, more than most fuels that we use. Good luck.
nice mate - thank you
@@ThinkingandTinkering I hope you don't mind that I called you by your first name even though we've never met. No, thank you.
I tinkered with a pepper shaker oil candle with a mop head wick. I found that it needed to be at least 3/4 full and I could use oil as the primer on the wick to get the capillary action to start.
cheers - nice add thank you for sharing
you should be able to lower the glass a bit and put the cooking grill right over the hole in the top of the glass giving you light and cooking at the same time.
nice
Looks like a great heater.
cheers mate
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One tip for a lot of mops, they are coated with chemicals to not let them absorb water easy. Soak in hot water & it comes off.
Dry thoroughly for wick material, da!
It’s not noticed if using for regular mopping cuz hot water is normally used.
If new mop floats in cool water it has chemicals on it…let it soak then dry…
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I really enjoyed this project with you Robert. I learned a few tricks from your tinkering with this multifunctional unit you made. What I am wondering is if you would test using carbon felt for the wick material on improving the performance ?? Would making a second tube over the wick holders with holes increase the efficiency of this unit ??
Good day fella.
My current design for unhoused folks is a wick made of carbon felt also rolled with steel mesh to give it a wide burn area and some extra support and then I wrap it in a piece of copper wire to give it a foot and hold the rolled wick upright. Make sure your rolled wick touches the bottom of your container and sticks up at least 1.5 cm above the fue line. I put that in a metal cup of cooking oil and plant the metal cup in a plant pot full of sand as big as you want to move around. I cut some wire fence panel into 2 pieces 1 for my chimney/mantle/burn chute and one for my wind break reflector... I leave some extra fence wire sticking out so that they can be rolled up into 2 rings and staked down in the pot. The first ring should fit fairly tightly around the rim of your metal fuel container. Once it's staked in your plant pot cut a piece of steel mesh that will the space between the top of your ring and the rim of your fuel cup when it is rolled up and slide it in the ring. Roll and stake your outer ring to the same level or a little higher than the first ring. Cut a piece of foil that can be folded 3 or 4 times to add strength and wrap around the outer ring about 3/4ths of the way around to make a wind break and reflector. Cut sone extra fence material to make a grill top. Add some rubbing alcohol to your cup and wick and light it up. Ip put a cast iron skillet on top as a radiator and cooking surface big enough to keep rain from getting in the mesh burn chamber and set it outside in the California bomb cyclone and it worked for about 3 hours on a cup of oil with no maintenance. Heat light cooking and wind and water resistant... it actually helps to keep the sand or soil around your metal container wet to help spread the heat away from the fuel container. Without a heat sink of some type that doesn't get steam in your burn chute tge oil will get too hot and boil so violently that it blows itself out while getting hot oil all over the place... the burner or multiple could be planted in a garden with a more permant stove/oven set up using bricks and rocks and colored glass pieces and different pots and tops add nice fun variation and personalizing... I call it the Hurricane Hibachi or the Seed of Life... less than $1 to make with some hunting for materials (buy the carbon felt!!!!) And only requires scissors and wire cutters to build. THANK YOU ROBERT!!!! You made this possible too!!!! I am teaching some groups at a local cidery how to make them and hand out my first 100 Seeds next weekend. Cheers, Sir Smith please build one and show it off if you feel inclined 🥂
Impressive burner with cooking oil, nice clean design.
Thank you very much!
...and what if you put a steel mesh cylinder on it?
This is so nice, lots of steps but low-tech. Love it!
cheers mate
Thank you for the video. I love this channel
oh wow - cheers
Brilliant!! This is Perfect!! Yaaay!!
Thank you Robert,Im going to make one of these for my Hubbys Christmas Prezzie!!
He shares that Glee for Fire, and, especially where there is a chance that he will save money by using it,,,
~rather than giving cash to Corperations that are making vast profits!!
Id been wracking my Brains over what to give him this year,,,, but,
~ Thanks to this Video, I have his main prezzie solved!!
Awesome, Thank You!!
Andrea and Critters. ....XxX....
it took. me 4 hours to make from start to finish
@@ThinkingandTinkering Thank You Robert!!
By my calculations then,,, I ought to set aside about 24hours in total and an extra eight hours to fix all my mistakes!!
Worth it for a Happy Mr Dingbatt!!🙂👍
Love it Rob 👍
cheers mate
Nice! 👏
I did the 1k like for this video :) Fun fact is that you can buy these kind of stove from a large Chinese website :P They deliver them with some kind of catalyst so you can use it as a heater too. As far as I can see it is not something that you can't build :) There a lot of pictures of the catalyst, and perhaps a couple of tin cans can do the same job :)
I just look into it mate - cheers
Lovely jubbly ! 👍
lol - cheers mate
Awesome mate, need to make a less powerful fuel mini boiler to power central heating radiators. Even 1 rad with a small fuel burner unit heating and recirculating the hot water in the radiator
interesting idea - cheers mate
Up front.....I enjoy your videos. Your creepy laugh is concerning when you see flames! Lol. I work as a physicist and my main background is electrical engineering. Mechanical is not my thing. You have taught me a lot. Thank-you.....Carter .,.. Canada
💜💜👍👍💜💜👍👍,,,,,,just great ....I always looking to use up old cooking oil👍👍👍
cheers mate
When you have the tall glass chimney on for the light I wonder if adding a taller pot stand that would go over the top would also allow cooking at the same time. Maybe just enough heat to boil a small pot of water. Having a stove that does multiple duties is good but when it does multiple duties at the same time is even better.
yes it probably would
That's an awesome project...plus it could heat the strange engine.
yes it could!
Mops, towels, tea towels are often made from pure cotton. And it may be cheaper to use them as a wick compared to a store bought one.
nice - cheers
Keep on adding on and before you know it you will have people placing orders LOL! Adding a way to place with stability 4 or more of your strange engines and charge your phone as a next step. Just an idea and would be pretty easy to do. Thanks Rob!
nice idea mate and yes it would
Great video Robert thanks for the upload!
cheers mate
It's like you're a mad scientist who, instead of being laughed at for your crazy idea, you were encouraged. "Right, Bob. Go ahead with your experiments." So, instead of world domination you turned to world education. I, for, one am glad for this.
yeah that's pretty much what happened mate lol
It's a year old episode but, using a kerosene lamp mantle would make it light even brighter.
Overall all your episodes I've seen are great
thanks mate
Hello Robert , the last time I didn’t over think something , it broke !
lololol
Vent the tent anyway even with a smokeless flame. Anywhere there is combustion there will be o2 needed for the combustion. The combustion will deplete o2 of the space and fill it with carbon monoxide. Just a little vent is all you need to be sure the combustion has the o2 it needs to keep burning and you have o2 to breathe thru the night.
I wonder if the veg oil paraffin fuel made in the other 1783 would start more easily in this stove.
I wonder if sanding the glass would make it more effective as a light.
A mixture of borax and salt in water is used in the candle industry to pretreat the cotton wick making it flame resistant and last longer
nice add mate - cheers
Hi Robert, nice metal working. Is there any heat conducting into the copper tubes and if there is would it help to have them long enough to extend down into the oil? It would help preheat the oil.
yes mate there is and I agree it would - I kept them short with safety in mind but of course you pay for that in terms of ease of use
Great,as to the wick holders. tere is some time and effort that is required. Could you not use a rivnut and solder the wick holder on over that? Easier and quicker.
I would avoid solder where it gets hot mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering oops. Right. Enjoy your channel.
Hello Rob, great videos. I couldn’t find the carbon felt in your shop. Could you point out where it is please. Amazon has loads of different varieties so I’d rather get the tried and tested variant from you.
Thanks
Maybe you can make a pre heater, using a bit of 12mm copper tubing the middle, setting in the oil, with a wick, using methanol or something easy to light, the tubing would carry the heat to the oil, similar to a test tube with methanol and a wick, maybe make a tiny chimney that dips into the oil also, with holes too let air in and about 1"+/- above the fuel tube, similar to a zippo lighter, in a metal test tube, haha, maybe allowing it to burn the fuel out of the tubing , will heat the oil enough to make it easier to start?
yes you Ould and I have done that in previous vids this was meant to be easier to build
This kind of look like a multi wick kerosene (paraffin) heater. They have the advantage of adjustable wicks and come with a "catalytic convertor" to give you a blue flame, and get the wicks higher than a yellow flame would allow. I wonder if they would burn with vegetable oil? Also I wonder if you could simply pour your vegetable oil around the top, perhaps refilling it a few times so the oil could flow down the wick.
I don't know - but I am about to find out
It would make an excellent emergency cooker. heater, and lamp if one power went out for extended period of time. That is if everything in the house was electric.
for sure
Another question can be this : i make a burning liquid from plastic . I want to use at stove or another burners ( welding,etc ) . How much smoke make this,or,it can be refine to make less,or if you add more air , the smoke it's less ?. Why I think at this?. Because it can be accessed by everyone free .
Nice , would love to see an argon version type with the forever wick !!
and argon type? what's that?
@@ThinkingandTinkering oops Typo, an Argand center draft type
I knew it.
lol
Could you make a secondary burn level on there to further reduce the emissions?
yep - there is a reason spirits or alcohol is used to ppreheat a parafin pressure lamp -- getting the fuel up to temp is handy.
Cheers tor the laughs - making ppl see useful materials in everyday trash.
cheers mate
You and I are old enough to remrmber 3in1 oil 😀
oh yes lol
Is there any trick or device designed for extending the wick or is manual only, meaning get your hands dirty?
You should never have a burner inside a tent, if the burner sets light to something you are unlikely going to be able to unzip the tent flap while panicking and escape before you have burning molten nylon dripping on you.
Also there is the carbon monoxide buildup and condensation.
Can I ask please with Ethanol and methanol is there a way you reduce or stop the smell when using than as heaters
I love the idea of using vegetable oil. I have made a candle and a lantern using veg oil but the wick seems to burn away really fast
Use robs wounder carbon felt
There are several options, carbon felt, or multiple wicks, of the same size, or a larger wick adjusted down lower, or even a bit of lye processing to thin the veg oil. The veg oil doesn't wick as fast and is more subject to gelling with colder temps. You probably have the flame out burning the fuel and it starts consuming the wick once it's no longer saturated. The other thing I've noticed, (just second party) is the wick holders being too tight for the wick and making a choke point for the wicking (capillary action)
Cheers
Antic candells with extra virgin olive oil if it was bigger and the burner smaller at diameter ,it keep flames more days . Here it's need to do in such way to use gravitation force ( form of this clay candells ) that the burner to have all time liquid .
you could try dipping the wick in borax mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering will try it!
good old mop wicks, can also be used to make a fisherman's lighter :)
What is a fisherman's lighter?
nice
@@lagunafishing its a windproof lighter, 2 tubes, an old clipper flint mech and a bit of mop :)
@@alistairmcleod3924 Never heard of it and I've been fishing since I was a kid in 1968
That's a fancy one on Amazon, I would dig mine out of the shed but I cant be arsed in this weather :) that mentions kerosene, I have never used any kind of accelerant on mine, the flints enough to get an ember going as long as you pre char the end of the wick.
Hey Robert with episode 1779, could it be possible to make a makeshift Cryocooler with that engine design.
yes
Is there an email address to share a couple of diagrams. I have made note of a couple issues I've noticed and from an applied physics angle have solved them. I am old! And still work a 55hr week. So I work on your ideas about 7 hrs per week. I think your efforts have an immediate place in a very unstable world now! I always encourage preparedness to friends and family. Living through the Cuban Missile Crisis shaped my views on survival. Carter.... Canada
Hay Robert, can you come up with a simple gimbal system and mount for the marine stove to go in a boat?
yes mate - though it is pretty simple - just a metal tray with a pivot
Couldn't you also use a oil burner a pretty little stove like the alcohol burner . The one with the brass legs.
In 1695 you make that super simple stand up wick and it just sits in some oil... would it be possible to do that with one or few of those in a small basin and use engineering to maximize cooking area and light and heat using your steel mantles and some radiant tubing or a pot? Terracotta is pretty replaceable if it breaks and does hold a lot of heat after the fire extinguishes which the better sink means the less time the fire itslef needs to burn over all to maintain a safe environment. Even warm water heating should be possible... thanks again!!!
There was one video you made a very similar setup and then made a big deal about only trying this with vegetable oil unless you want to die... that stuck with me a great option for inexpensive fuels to look at. I like the idea of being able to pull out a wick or add a wick for heating cooking light purposes without too much danger all around... I see this maybe even having a chimney that could rout out a tent door without getting dangerously hot or letting all the heat out... thank you for reading the comments do your thing, Sir!✨️🙏✨️
Add a strange engine even✨️🙏✨️
yes it would
@@ThinkingandTinkering I figured one out using a metal cup/can as the resovoir. A circular roll of carbon felt wick wrapped in copper wire with a circular foot to hold it upright. I stuff a roll of wire mesh down around the the edge of the cup. I made an enclosure and grill top out of some pieces of steel fence panel that was sturdy but hand bendable... a piece of folded up foil works as a reflector/ extra windbreak... only tin snips and scissors needed assembly to lighting in about 1 minute! I am very close to an almost free no tool set up that I can put into production... light/heat and cooking! Thank You!!!
Why not aluminum foil reflector on the glass
Question . It try someone to use biodiesel ,to replace oil with biodiesel and what are results compared with olive and sun flower oil,if it's more fluid ?, if has more power and if it make smoke . Also, the price bettwen : biodiesel ,sun flower oil and olive oil ?.
no idea sorry mate
It doesn't matter if a flame produces smoke or not. Any flame will produce carbon monoxide and should NEVER be used for heat inside of a tent unless the combustion gasses have a direct path tro the outside (such as with a chimney).
i wander if you could come up with a room heater that is running on used vegetable oil or maybe even car waste oil and that does not need a chimney connection, so you need a pure clean burning process of the used fuel to avoid carbon oxide gasses and it should be controllable and preferable free of electric fans, i am thinking here on a steam additive to the burning process and stainless steel sponges in the exhaust or a car exhaust katalysator or both to get rid of the very last bit of co gasses, talking about a challenge, this is one, are you up for it?????.
there are a couple of additions I would make mate - it has to be able to be built with household tools and built by the average person
wahats oil consumption per hour in leters please ?
Great job and video. Question, is baby oil able to be burned safely inside?
I don't know
I'm curious with all these stove designs, if you could come up with a way to make the burn more efficient like the rocket stove. Perhaps adding a fan or 'chimney' of some sort.
It's possible . It's need more layers of this metal boxes with holes at : up and down to flow the air and to have contacts between this . On the up part of the biggest metalic box ,in the center,you put a chimney to evacuate and to have a better burn . It will be fast a hot temperature on the boxes . Ideea it's to use extra virgin olive oil because not make smoke and bad smells,or try biodiesel ,or methanol and ethanol . In this way ,you can make a big stove that use 8 or 9 flames or even more and if you want to put a fan for ventilation to be more fast ,combine a rocket stove model with what Daniel Tartaglia created . Also, i make inside this stove a form with holes that make possible to burn pellets .and to flow the air to chimney . But ,what I creat now it is a rocket with 3 modules that can be put one on other and use in function by what material you have . At base , it's a combination bettwen a forge that make a vortex flow air and a central burner for oil ( ideea it's to not make smoke and use : wood and oil ) . Another module it's only for a gas from fermentation and another it's for pellets . The first modules can be also a base for the module with form that I use for pellets ( I can make a combination bettwen this modules to eliminate how much smoke it's possible ) . Also ,i make a module from two boxes with different diameter that are put one inside other and put cement and water bettwen this to resist even in time the metal from inside box it's destroyed by heat .
You want more efficient to be ,make bigger ,use an internal cilinder with many holes , use something to block flow of the hot air outside when it's burned combustion material like wood ( something on chimney ) and use a heat recover . Soo ,you can make a rocket stove with cheap materials , with more modules for different materials : wood, cotton clothes, pellets, cartoons, ethanol,methanol, candells with oil ,etc., fermentation gas . Ideea it's that in final to obtain : heat for room, heat for cooking, light and to heat water ( 6 liter's for a shower using a tool that's use in agriculture to eliminate the insects,some bad plants ) .
yes you could and I have already built an example of that mate
Also,to be more efficient you need to make a better insulation of your room,house, apartment . Better insulation,more economy you make .
@@ThinkingandTinkering Cheers! I've missed a few vids I think.
My main concern with oil vs alcohols as fuel would be getting it to burn fully. So there aren't so many unburnt byproducts, soot, monoxide, etc.
Reminds me of the Chinese Firewheel "8 wick kerosene stove" that you can buy off AliExpress or Amazon for around £16. 🤔
me too
@@ThinkingandTinkering Check out video "Vedic Cooking Stove uses any vegetable oil as fuel, eco-friendly, safe for nutrients and tasty" for operation of about the simplest multi wick stove design.
I'm sorry, sometimes I don't hear straight, but what is the name of the ring that goes over the 8 mm copper tube to hold it? Thx
Its an olive
we call them olives though they can also be called ferrules I believe
Why it's missing a mantle? Smoke would be gone + you'd get more heat and light.
a mantle is a good idea
I have a couple of questions : what is the safest fuel to burn, indoors and why do my homemade wicks (thick, rope like twine) cause so much smoke/soot; regardless of how much work I have or don’t have?
I am afraid it is not just a question of the safest - there are legal requirements too - you will need to check out the eco guard 2022 legislation if you are in the UK or Europe
Maybe can be a liquid for desinfection that it's mix by methanol and a substance that make less fluid ( desinfection for hands in situation with Covid ) . This it's something bettwen solid and liquid and burn very well,but, it's more expensive that metilic alcohol .
The substance mixed with methanol it's glicerinn.
I don't understand why heating say a plate or a flower pot can make more heat for a room than simply letting the heat from the flame heat the room. The heat that the flame makes can only escape into the room.
Be the flame and think more deep . Next,make a contact with a metal and you will start to radiate one a bigger surface . Next ,go like a particle that have a bigger energy compared with the space that it sorround and let with this move to manifest another particles that will also escape in space . Radiation, vibration it make the difference . At a simple flame, radiation it's small on a space near the flame . If you use a metal,you make heat to migrate on a bigger surface of space and next it will escape more particles . Why you can amplifier the light using laser effect ?. Because you add more particles at high energy . It's the same when you add particles from metal and give the high energy of flame . You amplifier the energy of more particles .
If the flame is just heating the air.. you have to warm a lot of air up. Instead, If you heat up a solid that becomes an infrared heat emitter, the wavelength of infrared is more likely to transmit to solids, passing through the air (to a degree). This is why infrared heaters can be more cost effective than a fan heater.. you’re heating the thing (surface/object) you want to heat rather than using air (heating air first) as the transmitting medium. But you are right in that heat energy is just heat energy.. and heating a damp plant pot first may not be that great.
I would think that it would die out after not too long due to the fact that cooking oil is too thick to wick more than an inch or so.
Make sure it's an un-lined can!!!
What's next, a ceramic tube infrared gas heater?
Cheers,
hmmm - interesting lol
Fantastic. I can't keep up!
Is there any way to make a Bunsen burner style flame with cooking oil ?
Use a vortex effect at base with a fan and a central burner like at oil stoves that use ventilation power,next use a special form to exit the flame that you obtained by using air flow power .
yes - but it is a dangerous as hell lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering like that would stop me
@@juver890 lolol - I like the spirit mate lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering Any ideas how i get this house fire ..... i mean bleu rocker flame candle going