1704 Trying Different Fuels On The DIY Heater 1

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Komentáře • 514

  • @792slayer
    @792slayer Před rokem +7

    The description of emptying the chili can had me rollin. Just classic.

    • @dustybizzle1
      @dustybizzle1 Před 11 měsíci +2

      burst out laughing in my office, what an awesome line that was haha

    • @rhondasmith7413
      @rhondasmith7413 Před 7 měsíci +2

      When Patty was away … eating cold chili over the sink just like a rat had me laughing, too.

  • @TheWingnut58
    @TheWingnut58 Před rokem +156

    Here in the US, carbon felt can be found at most "big box" home improvement stores like Lowe's etc in the plumbing area in the form of a welding or soldering"blanket".
    Plumbers use them for fire protection when soldering copper plumbing ....

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Před rokem +38

      nice one mate - thanks for helping out

    • @zahialsalman
      @zahialsalman Před rokem +18

      Great tip, thanks for this!

    • @leoc4901
      @leoc4901 Před rokem +11

      Thank you very much. Great info

    • @Flashahol
      @Flashahol Před rokem +8

      Thank you, I would have searched for eons!

    • @docink6175
      @docink6175 Před rokem +7

      still kind of $$ when you could use a wool sock or layers of tissue paper, cotton yarn etc.. they should last as long as the burner as long as you dont let them run dry and burn the wick

  • @letterofthelaw2567
    @letterofthelaw2567 Před rokem +18

    Jay Zee has 99 problems but a heating bill ain't one

  • @themeek351
    @themeek351 Před rokem +29

    I started making one here in the States with a large Ditty Moore can and a smaller chopped pineapple can! I can't wait to drill it out and give it a try! Thanks Rob for all the years of education and superior entertainment!

    • @Tater4200
      @Tater4200 Před rokem +1

      have you tried it?

    • @themeek351
      @themeek351 Před rokem +1

      @@Tater4200 Yes! It worked great! The fuel didn't last long though!

  • @onemansjunk01
    @onemansjunk01 Před rokem +17

    If I had any spare income you would be the one I'd join patron for , as alway great fact filled viewing 👍🏻 and thanks to you I got myself a welder and the first thing I built was a rocket stove and a gas bottle wood burner to keep me warm while watching you.🤘🏻👌🏼🖖🏻

  • @greenthumbprepper8653
    @greenthumbprepper8653 Před rokem +11

    Thanks for being the voice of reason. Lots of channels are pushing the fear narrative daily

  • @timredd
    @timredd Před rokem +8

    Nice one Robert. As always when using any appliance with hot naked flames, caution, safety and vigilance is necessary. I came from the 1950s where open fires, paraffin lamps and heaters and even gas mantle lighting were common.

  • @davidupton4730
    @davidupton4730 Před rokem +2

    I really enjoyed the videos, the no nonsense common sense is a breath of fresh air these days!

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E Před rokem +5

    That bit about the frothing madman over a sink gave me a hearty chuckle. I think we've all gone hooting baboon over a can of improvised chow. I do love my mandarin oranges fresh out of the can, dribbling down my face, spoon be damned!
    Add: It took me a few minutes to remember, but at last I did. Quite the while back, I recall doing a lot of reading about a particular nut that can grow in some exceptionally hostile conditions, which also happened to produce a huge quantity of oil that could be readily refined into a biodiesel. Something along the lines of the Jatropha curcas (not sure if I spelled that correct, it's been well over a decade mind you). Again going from recollection, it was stated to be sub-tropical but could also produce viable 'fruit' in a bucket of sand. Not an overnight solution, but the temptation still resides to try to obtain a few of the buggers...

  • @straight-narrow-path
    @straight-narrow-path Před rokem +2

    Absolutely fantastic

  • @joedee1863
    @joedee1863 Před rokem +12

    Thanks Robert your topics are becoming increasingly more practical and interesting than ever. I am dying to see your coverage on heavier oils. But my main favourite will be WASTE ENGINE OIL 👅

  • @ruthcormack1765
    @ruthcormack1765 Před rokem +12

    Just to say I have a commercial paraffin heater that purports to use a GLASS FIBRE wick, which only needs to have the eventual black oily deposits burned off by using all the fuel to empty tank. Apparently no trimming needed! Great show.

  • @fontybits
    @fontybits Před rokem +2

    Thank you for elaborating on the alternative fuels. If I hadn't subscribed, I'd probably have missed this helpful info.

  • @BH-hr9tp
    @BH-hr9tp Před rokem +25

    I grew sunflowers collected the seeds and processed them into oil, I only got 1 kilo which gave 0.5 litres of oil. Scaled up it would be worth it but you need a pretty big patch of land to get a decent amount and you could turn it into biodiesel, but the oil on its own would still burn.

    • @islandsedition
      @islandsedition Před rokem +6

      that seems like a good yield for the weight. presumably the much of the left over matter is protein?
      how much area did you need to get the kilo of seeds?

    • @BH-hr9tp
      @BH-hr9tp Před rokem +6

      I did 50 plants in an area 1m by 4 m, 8 plants died , some seeds were raided by birds , position wasn’t ideal as they didn’t get sun till midday and I didn’t feed them. The seeds were from a pet shop so I don’t know what variety they were , but it said oil seed for birds on the packet
      I did try to get some Petrovak seeds , that’s what the Russians and Ukrainians grow but couldn’t get hold of any. A good experiment though .if you can grow a bulk lot they store for years. Going to try rapeseed next year as well.

    • @islandsedition
      @islandsedition Před rokem +3

      @@BH-hr9tp that's fantastic stuff and good luck with the rapeseed. I did see an episode of Cody's lab where he distilled oil out of a common weed in his parts. Looked a bit like ragwort, but I can't recall it exactly.
      How did you extract the oil?

    • @jor9463
      @jor9463 Před rokem +4

      @@BH-hr9tp Check out Terra Preta tutorials, if you want good soil for the future. Haven't started planting properly yet but it is a good insider tip from a bio-farm worker I know

    • @lsmith992
      @lsmith992 Před rokem +4

      @@islandsedition
      As a child, friends would be travelling to see family in Romania and they would come back with sunflower seed "cake". I think this was the residue from the oil extracion process and just pressed into cake. They loved it.

  • @AhJodie
    @AhJodie Před rokem +1

    Thank you for adding how to put it out, and for repeating the wick material. This is great, and so dangerous for people who are going to try this in unsafe situations, but, it is cool too! Thank you!

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson Před rokem +40

    I just had a few thoughts:
    1. The flames travel up the outside of the mesh. What about using multiple layers of mesh with spaces in between them? That will multiply the surface area that can be heated up and radiate IR.
    2. Instead of a lid, what about using cheap stainless steel scrubbers, stacked inside the mantle? That would also increase the mass while still allowing air flow.
    3. Depending on the stainless steel scrubbers available to you, can you check to see if they can be unrolled to be used as an easily-available mantle? If not, could wire be used to hold them in place so they act as a mantle while in their original form?
    Cheers!

    • @regwatson2017
      @regwatson2017 Před rokem +3

      Number 1 suggestion sounds great for Rob to check out - Will it use more oil and be hotter, use the same, or will the heat output be comparatively reduced because of the greater heating surface area required ?

    • @ScottyHugefellow
      @ScottyHugefellow Před rokem +2

      @@regwatson2017 the majority of the heat will escape either way so a larger surface area would catch more that would otherwise be wasted. Pretty sure steel wool gets weird when its been heated up, im not sure what a steel scrubber is but it seems like steel wool

    • @denisripley8699
      @denisripley8699 Před rokem +2

      @@ScottyHugefellow Steel wool made with tiny filaments of steel (which readily oxidizes); Stainless Steel 'scrubber' filaments very much larger -----> greater thermal mass, so less likely to become red hot/vapourise. Copper scrubbers even better conduction.

    • @ScottyHugefellow
      @ScottyHugefellow Před rokem

      @@denisripley8699 still not entirely sure what a scrubber is, unless its what appears to be a higher quality steel wool. I can test it as a thermal mesh when identified
      Edit: re-read your comment and it makes sense now.
      Thanks we'll have results soon

    • @denisripley8699
      @denisripley8699 Před rokem +1

      @@ScottyHugefellow Sorry Scotty.. I'm in my angloshere bubble ! A scrubber or scourer is, like you suggest, a heavy duty, durable version of steel wool, almost always made of stainless steel and unlikely to irritate bare fingers like steel wool does. It's the stuff that's also used in homemade distillation columns, although copper 'scrubbers' or mesh is a better option in that application.

  • @andyhiggs6932
    @andyhiggs6932 Před rokem +2

    Just ordered from your store Robert! Amazon was a bit confusing. I couldn't find a product that matched your description 100%. Thank you for clarifying exactly what we need in this video.

  • @TheZombieSaints
    @TheZombieSaints Před rokem +6

    "like a rat"... that made me lol 😂 Great video. Quite interesting. Well done

  • @leesykes9988
    @leesykes9988 Před rokem +3

    From experience make sure that botb ends of the carbon felt insert meet inside the can quiet tightly, if there is any gap here the flame will ignite the fuel contents of the bottom tin

  • @Szi90
    @Szi90 Před rokem +7

    Love your videos Robert!

  • @andreawelsh6786
    @andreawelsh6786 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much for addressing the ventilation issues. I am still waiting on carbon felt being delivered and then good to go 😁😁

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 Před rokem +1

    My wife's friend was doing a hand fasting ceremony and they wanted a couple small torches, so I got a couple green twigs off a hardwood tree, wrapped it with gauze, then a bit of copper wire wrapped around it in a pleasing spiral, then doused it in 90% alcohol. When they lit it nothing but the alcohol burned so the gauze stayed bright white, the flame was visible, and they seemed to want to burn forever.
    When the fuel gets too low the flame gets smaller and the outer edges will start to char, so just smother it, refuel it, and relight it.

  • @kathryncooper4001
    @kathryncooper4001 Před rokem +1

    WOW!!! If I lived in the UK, where heating fuel is now terribly expensive, I'd be rigging up one of these heaters in a heartbeat. I make my own cleaning solutions, so rubbing alcohol is always on hand, but I'd like to know if kerosene would be a more affordable, equally effective fuel. In power outages in the US, I just use a large inverted, ventilated aluminum can over a couple of utility candles. It keeps us warm enough til the power is restored, but this device could really benefit all the Brits who are choosing between heating and eating. Brilliant!

  • @nattsurfaren
    @nattsurfaren Před rokem +2

    Thanks for explaining this Robert :)

  • @allenlong1445
    @allenlong1445 Před rokem +15

    Looking forward to finding out what this system dose with used veg oil I got lots of it Im hoping to use as a green house heater over winter as gas will be going up in price soon you love your job we love watching you do it keep it up 😜

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Před rokem +3

      cheers mate

    • @nw4x4adventures
      @nw4x4adventures Před rokem

      How did you get on with it mate

    • @allenlong1445
      @allenlong1445 Před rokem

      @@nw4x4adventures not started making one yet as my gas bottle still got some gas in it after i put foam flooring down helping it insulate it just doing that and the bubble wrap inside has dropped gas usage alot

  • @nowthenad3286
    @nowthenad3286 Před rokem +1

    Robert, you have to be one of the most interesting people on the planet. Why on earth do we have to have our TV schedule full of Brian Cox when you exist. They need to give you a series on the BBC!

    • @amounce1
      @amounce1 Před rokem

      Brainwashing Broadcasting Council wouldn't have him on air as he'd solve the coming winter blackouts, which is coming and will kill thousands. But, hey, I'm just a conspiracy theorist...

  • @elgorrion52
    @elgorrion52 Před rokem +1

    A great video as ever!
    Regarding ventilation, as a comparison Natural Gas fires fitted to a chimney only need a vent providing outside air for combustion for 7kw input or greater, the average gas fire being only 5kw, "adventitious ventilation" - draughts under doors etc - being enough. Decorative flame effect fires DO need a vent: (yellow flames = incomplete combustion). A chimney/flue is still needed for the above.
    I couldn't begin to calculate the input of one of these heaters, but I would favour using only the fuels that burn blue (yellow flames = incomplete combustion, soot) - then you could warm tortillas on the top bit!
    The fact that it's a radiant heater means you can "heat the person not the space" so you can feel the benefit quickly without depleting the oxygen in the room, but use caution with any open flame appliance, maybe get a carbon monoxide alarm, check for soot etc. Room size matters.
    If this sounds a bit r-c, a friend of mine died of CO poisonning by falling asleep in his campervan with the cooker on to keep warm.

  • @douglasjones5880
    @douglasjones5880 Před rokem

    Very interesting and educational..love listening to this gentleman 👌 👍

  • @jimsiggy
    @jimsiggy Před rokem +4

    "Or you just like to rub yourself a lot" lol🤣

  • @stevenjarratt2454
    @stevenjarratt2454 Před rokem

    Good common sense and practical engineering. Love it!

  • @rhiantaylor3446
    @rhiantaylor3446 Před rokem +1

    Something very pleasing about watching that red hot stainless gauze, quite apart from the heat.

  • @d.beaumont9157
    @d.beaumont9157 Před rokem +8

    Common sense is in short supply these days, love the way you make the videos idiot proof and fun at the same time.

    • @guyspencer4322
      @guyspencer4322 Před rokem +3

      I have heard it said that if common sense were so common you would see more of it around...

    • @d.beaumont9157
      @d.beaumont9157 Před rokem

      @@guyspencer4322 Very good, I'll have to remember that one. 😀

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem +1

      As soon as one idiot is out of action, plenty more to reply him/her, I put my brother in law in this category, heart of gold, no common sense 😂

  • @garywillis5790
    @garywillis5790 Před rokem +1

    Great that Robert... Thanks mate!

  • @settlece
    @settlece Před rokem +1

    thanks so much for all the info on this

  • @NoName-ds5uq
    @NoName-ds5uq Před rokem +8

    This is great! In 1976 when I was little we moved into a house which only had an open fireplace for heating in one room and no insulation. We also had a portable kerosene heater. Considering we(Tasmania) have a not too dissimilar climate to England this was, shall we say, slightly insufficient. I learnt common sense around fires early. 😂 Mum used to put a bowl of water on top of the kero heater to remove the smell, but I have no idea if that really works or not.

    • @tuppybrill4915
      @tuppybrill4915 Před rokem +5

      Similar, grew up in a house with two open fires and several paraffin (kerosene??) heaters one of which my older brother knocked over on one occasion, it went out and didn't burn the house down.

    • @NoName-ds5uq
      @NoName-ds5uq Před rokem +2

      @@tuppybrill4915 lol, I just looked it up and it seems paraffin and kerosene are the same thing. I know it can be used as jet fuel too, but it’s not as refined.

    • @elusiveeskimo3013
      @elusiveeskimo3013 Před rokem +4

      Flame heaters and wood stoves tend to dry out the air in rooms/homes where they are used. For this reason I have always used a bowl or pan of water placed on them, gently releasing moisture back into the air. Helps prevent the wood of my many musical instruments from drying out and cracking. Never noticed it having any effect on smells.

    • @mikebond6328
      @mikebond6328 Před rokem +6

      My mama would put orange peel and the like in a pan of water on the woodstove. Helped with dry air and smelled good too.

    • @azazel_5319
      @azazel_5319 Před rokem +3

      At the age of 6 both my parents were at work when I got home from school so my first job was to make the fire, I would light the kindling in the fireplace then wedge the coal shovel in the opening and cover it with newspaper to block out the air and draw the fire, I guess they had different rules about kids and fire in those days 😂 alternatively we had a gas poker which you could light and shove under the kindling until caught alight.

  • @johnstott140
    @johnstott140 Před rokem +5

    Hi, thanks for your video's, I am enjoying both the subject matter and also your presentation. I have only just found your Chanel as it came up with this heater which I am interested in. May I be so bold as to suggest that you take a look at the video's of Heath Putnam. He has spent quite some time perfecting the alcohol stove and I am positive that it will give you some food for thought.
    May I ask what gauge stainless mesh are you using? As I want to have a mess around myself with my various types of wood gas stoves. You can't beat "free" fuel. I use these for camping and if you have a look on CZcams you will see a great amount of interest in this.
    I also wonder if you would try adding some disc's of mesh horizontally across the mantel to act as flame diverters. Which I think on some of the more aggressive flames would both control them and also increase the inferred output.
    Keep up the good work and your jovial attitude and I will be a follower of your Chanel.
    Many thanks John

  • @mondo2417
    @mondo2417 Před rokem

    Thanks Robert.

  • @SchwaAlien
    @SchwaAlien Před rokem +5

    I experimented using bacon grease in a small tin can with a half-size paper towel rolled up as the wick and let it burn in a basic wood stove fireplace - it was enough heat to warm the place up quite a bit for several hours, not as much as a wood fire but it was pretty good and if I put 2-3 cans in at once that would probably get to a decent temperature... which is pretty good for using up waste, and if you had access to something like [expired/cheap] ‘vegetable shortening’ it would work too. 😉

    • @DFPercush
      @DFPercush Před rokem +3

      That must have smelled amazing. 😋

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před rokem

      There are many CZcams videos that show how to make long-lasting candles and heaters out of store-bought shortening. Having waste lard or tallow would be even better!

  • @Jimbo878
    @Jimbo878 Před rokem +6

    Another useful video, it's great also you've attracted a small community of inquisitive minds, i.e one of the commentors mentioned wax as a thermal storage solution 🤔, I never heard this before, and it's given me an idea to make small copper boxes/flasks and fill them with wax pellets used in moulding applications 👍🏻

  • @VacuumTube88
    @VacuumTube88 Před rokem +2

    I can't wait to see the heavy fuels video, I have some filtered oil mix from frying accumulated throughout the year that is painfull to dispose and it could be nice to use it this winter for a bit of room heating, I tried it on a simpler wick and cup but it puts out a lot of smoke and i would like to see the video and read comments to get ideas for a solution to that smoke

  • @juniusvindex769
    @juniusvindex769 Před rokem +35

    Hi Robert, been randomly watching you for a few years, subbed last week, and binge watching you every spare moment 😀
    Your ventilation statement is what I needed to hear, I hear conflicting theories online. 👍🏻
    I am currently looking into heating my metal shed whilst working on junk etc, you sir are a gold mine of information (I just wish my science teachers at school were as funny and informative as you) so I took biology........ 🙄
    Thanks matey, I'm off to the shed 🍺

    • @colinsmith7233
      @colinsmith7233 Před rokem +1

      Thats just what I was going to say. x

    • @jimmcdonald3004
      @jimmcdonald3004 Před rokem +1

      I made an ammo can wood stove last year to heat my 8x10 metal shed. It worked great (90° at times w/o insulated walls) but had to be fed and kept an eye on. I'm going to experiment with incorporating this in the ammo can stove. I'm really curious if waste oil could be used, or maybe I'll convert the oil to biodiesel.

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem

      @@jimmcdonald3004 hope you post a video of your improved heater

  • @philbebbington1755
    @philbebbington1755 Před rokem

    Greetings from Ireland, great videos, great ideas and you speak perfect Hiberno-English too " scares the bejayziz outa you " !

  • @joohop
    @joohop Před rokem +1

    Beautiful

  • @offgridwanabe
    @offgridwanabe Před rokem +4

    Good stuff and lots people can do it. Because I too am stuck on DIY and would need a fuel I could make myself would it run on Brown's Gas because I think I can make that. Keep up the good work and great videos.

  • @daviddotson2432
    @daviddotson2432 Před rokem

    Love these videos 100% now a part of my morning routine love the simplicity of these projects and using mostly what you have kicking around in shop keep them coming sir

  • @angelusmendez5084
    @angelusmendez5084 Před rokem +2

    Really interesting, thanks!

  • @artytomparis
    @artytomparis Před rokem +2

    Thanks Robert. You go to a lot of trouble and expense to put these together.

  • @danieljordan4320
    @danieljordan4320 Před rokem +5

    In US - rubbing alcohol is often sold cheaply but at 50% concentration or less. Maybe a video on concentrating or ‘drying’ alcohol up to 70% with salt

    • @professorfukyu744
      @professorfukyu744 Před rokem +2

      Nilered has a good video on it to explain the principles.

    • @yourekittenme.
      @yourekittenme. Před rokem

      We have 50% AND 90% where I live (in US).

    • @daphneraven6745
      @daphneraven6745 Před rokem

      We have it in Canada, but it runs easily $10 for less than a litre.

  • @Liowen
    @Liowen Před rokem +9

    I have been curious if you could add carbon felt to a round kerosene heater? Now I know the greenhouse heater didn't work with the carbon felt, however I wonder if it would have worked if a piece of copper tubing was used to hold the wick under the heating element. If so then the same idea could be used on a round kerosene heater and be a long term heating solution if the need arises, and as a bonus you could use other fuels if need be instead of just kerosene. Also the round kerosene heaters are kind of a mantle based heater just scaled up to 11 so it does kind of fit in with this idea.

  • @georgeswampy6224
    @georgeswampy6224 Před rokem +4

    You could use a magnet to hold the tin to the base on the stand.

  • @Just..Me..
    @Just..Me.. Před rokem

    This will be great in the cabin

  • @freeholdtacticalmed
    @freeholdtacticalmed Před rokem

    Awesome stove system. Been burning Fancy Feast alcohol stove as a kayak camper. Yours is the same system just a step larger! I love the mantle. make a pot support and you have a reliable spirit stove for emergencies. I love it being multi-fuel as well.

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring Před rokem

    Fabulous Robert

  • @taurielnightblade7200

    I did it in smaller version ( just recycling corn tins, saucepan lids and other stuff in kitcken ware) and it works, really works, great invention for penniless homes. for the mantle I got a piece from an old mosquito blind for windows. for the back shield aluminiun I picked from a broken quartz heater. Methane I got it in plumb or DIY stores. ( even there are outlets from work places or giving away)

  • @anniehope8651
    @anniehope8651 Před rokem

    Thanks for answering my question on moisture.

  • @AndreaDingbatt
    @AndreaDingbatt Před rokem

    Thank you so much for sharing this information with us!!
    Awesome Upload 🙂👍

  • @marthaherrera5690
    @marthaherrera5690 Před rokem

    Thank you 😊for the info

  • @dinosaur0073
    @dinosaur0073 Před 8 měsíci

    That Jay zee 40:40:20 interesting one. Goes well with environmental issues 🤔. Thank you, Robert

  • @soxxy8588
    @soxxy8588 Před rokem

    Answered my earlier question! Legend!

  • @Flashahol
    @Flashahol Před rokem +1

    A stainless steel kitchen sink is a great place for testing these and there is a super great chance you'll be able to put them out from there... Plus the fan is usually pretty close.

  • @gen81465
    @gen81465 Před rokem +2

    Where I live in the US, many people use waste vegetable oil in their furnaces, lamps, and even diesel vehicles (once processed a bit). Fast food restaurants near me actually have to pay to get rid of their fryer oil, as it's considered industrial waste. One of my friends goes to a series of local McDonalds and Burger King places, and ends up with about 100 gallons of waste fryer oil. He takes it home, filters out the sediment, and uses it in his tractor on his dairy farm. I guess it's a lot better to have the farm smell like a fish and chips shop than a cow barn.

  • @shanealexander9952
    @shanealexander9952 Před rokem

    I'm trying to remember off the top of my head what was used with lamps through the ages.

  • @6.5x55
    @6.5x55 Před rokem

    WW2 my dad and his buddies heated fox holes with ration tin heaters on same principle...but petrol mixed with motor on oil. Warm but sooty.

  • @stevea8547
    @stevea8547 Před rokem +5

    I think it would possibly work better if the mantle was made in a conical shape looking at the shape of the flame

    • @paulmaydaynight9925
      @paulmaydaynight9925 Před rokem

      if your going to be picky then just use a 'Valor 0535549 Radiant' stuffed in a tin

    • @stevea8547
      @stevea8547 Před rokem

      @@paulmaydaynight9925 erm yeah ok thanks for that 🤷‍♂️

    • @sixoffive
      @sixoffive Před rokem

      How about something Halloween-ish?

  • @tradermunky1998
    @tradermunky1998 Před rokem +2

    Thanks!

  • @jons2447
    @jons2447 Před rokem +3

    Hello, Mr. Murray-Smith;
    I was hoping to see if different fuels produce different temperatures in your stove.
    Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!

  • @majackslelo827
    @majackslelo827 Před rokem

    Thank you😁

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Před rokem +3

    I can tell you Robert that adding a little bit of epsom salt or table salt, say a pinch will let you see the flame better. Not perfect but it does help with the flame vision.

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem +2

      Great idea, wonder what other table condiments might work too

    • @prevengeix8551
      @prevengeix8551 Před rokem +2

      Borax is supposed to make a green flame

    • @victoryfirst2878
      @victoryfirst2878 Před rokem +2

      @@prevengeix8551 The test for borax burning in methanol alcohol is a vivid green flame. That is right on Prevenge nine.

    • @victoryfirst2878
      @victoryfirst2878 Před rokem +2

      @@Milkybar3320011 Maybe try Gulden's mustard. Just a wild guess, very wild for sure. Can you tell I like yellow mustard ?? Peace

    • @victoryfirst2878
      @victoryfirst2878 Před rokem +1

      @@prevengeix8551 TRUE !!!

  • @andrewbowden1076
    @andrewbowden1076 Před rokem +3

    E85 is next to try for me, Much cheaper than K2. Perhaps mixed with vegetable glycerin to tame it a bit.

    • @dixiechampagne2892
      @dixiechampagne2892 Před rokem +1

      I prepaid for more e85 than my truck's fuel tank would hold. Rather than getting a refund, I put the rest in a gas can in the back. Have 3+ gallons that I'd love to burn in my kero heaters. Been running diesel with a splash of iso in the Perfection, didn't realize diesel=methanol+glycerin 🙄

  • @bbracing3925
    @bbracing3925 Před rokem

    Very well done "how to" DIY video! 👍

  • @docink6175
    @docink6175 Před rokem +1

    I add a bit of epsom salt, copper sulfate , borax or table salt to make the flame a little more visible.. regular table salt will change the flames to a yellow, copper sulfate=green, borax=light green, epsom salt= orange, you can also add a copper wire at the wick top and get a blue/green flame, salt substitute/potassium chloride gives a purpleish color

    • @docink6175
      @docink6175 Před rokem

      carbon felt makes a great wick but you can just use tissue paper or a piece of cotton towel, a wrapping of cotton line etc.. I just use beach sand in my alcohol stoves... it also works with oil.. dried coffee grounds also work AND chases mosquitoes

    • @docink6175
      @docink6175 Před rokem

      another "wick" is also a safety factor, fit a roll of tissue in the can, saturate it, you can lay it on its side and no alcohol comes out... use a metal disk to control flame size, either leave a small gap around the edge or drill burn holes in the plate... the bottom of the can stays cool, you can actually pick it up (carefully)

  • @RichardCranium321
    @RichardCranium321 Před rokem

    I'm glad I'm not the only sink eater...

  • @l0I0I0I0
    @l0I0I0I0 Před rokem +1

    Nice! TY!

  • @MerwinARTist
    @MerwinARTist Před rokem +1

    This is quite interesting to watch .. and as I have continued to think about your progress .. I've thought after watching this .. why not develop a small stove of metal to keep the open flame inside .. could easily be a larger tin .. maybe a gallon size .. and a vent for air to move through. Maybe thicker metal .. as a small wood heater might have.

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem +2

      Check out “the outsider - candle convection heater” he has captured your great idea but missing this everlasting wick heater

    • @MerwinARTist
      @MerwinARTist Před rokem +2

      @@Milkybar3320011 .. yes! I have been following the outsider for a good while. I remember his portable cabin build. Really nice guy!

    • @yourekittenme.
      @yourekittenme. Před rokem +1

      This is the guy I’ve been referencing!
      Yes, I think the combination would work beautifully.

  • @justinw1765
    @justinw1765 Před rokem +1

    The easiest way to vent these stoves is to create an insert for a window and put a chimney through it. For little stoves like this, a 2 to 3" or so chimney should work ok. To save money/cost, use steel for like the first foot or so, but then use Al for the rest of the pipe. Make sure you paint the chimney pipe with some kind of high temp paint to increase the emissivity (so that the IR radiates out of the pipe better).

  • @Just..Me..
    @Just..Me.. Před rokem

    Appreciate your videos

  • @bobsanders1690
    @bobsanders1690 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for these heater videos! I have a wood shop (with no heat) and I'm looking for a fuel to burn that won't produce moisture as a by product. I was using propane heater - but the moisture produced began rusting my tools. When you talk about fuels can you address this?

  • @QUADBOYification
    @QUADBOYification Před rokem

    Its a basic Kerosine heater design with the same principal of a fluid sucking wick with a mesh around the flame. The thinner the mesh the better. Very cheap to build design you made. Ofcourse a Kerosine heater uses pressure to push Fluid through a little generator to pre-heat the Kerosine making it a evaporate into gas and burn more violently. Hence your burning time is reduced but the heat generated is more intense. Makes sense. Your system if carefully re-designed could be used in a tent and even heat a pot of water. Simply foldable (nested) into each other packed in a sturdy cylinder. The mesh is the expensive part and should be easily replaceable on the go. To glow the whole mesh (ideal) the wick should be used with a special heater head. Something that burns the full length of the mesh. Probably a tube with very tiny holes over its entire area. Genious, thanks.

  • @petersellers9219
    @petersellers9219 Před rokem +1

    Shucks! Bang goes my idea for a ethanol heated hat.

  • @colinsmith7233
    @colinsmith7233 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @adenihil
    @adenihil Před rokem +1

    « …if you’re someone who likes to rub himself a lot » - Comment of the day 😂
    Thank you Robert.

  • @monkeyscience3973
    @monkeyscience3973 Před rokem +1

    Freezing thanks 😊

  • @sshessheuchssheuchb6732

    "... on the cold when Patty was away just like a rat."
    This bearly understandable comments are gold!

  • @1JasonBradly
    @1JasonBradly Před rokem +1

    Lol, not safe for children. Love the common sense advice at the end. It's an open flame device, care and respect must be applied. Like the tile you use to set the whole thing upon. Enjoyed and attained info from these videos and experiments, thank you.
    From, Vancouver Island Canada.

  • @ronrammelle4735
    @ronrammelle4735 Před rokem

    Small stove top fan on top to move the warm air around would be good

  • @PelletJamie
    @PelletJamie Před rokem +1

    They sell IPA at my local... by the pint. Might suggest to the landlord she puts it in a can of peas and sets fire to it.

  • @michaelpelletier4515
    @michaelpelletier4515 Před rokem +1

    So many great ideas here. I'll be trying this if I can find everything needed !

  • @brucereichert6509
    @brucereichert6509 Před rokem +2

    My larger heater is homemade, close to that and I use 1 % rubbing alcohol, 12% kerosene, 85% used motor oil and 2% antifreeze. It burns like a champ. Mine also has a triple cone wire mesh and a damper.

    • @pattiannepascual
      @pattiannepascual Před rokem

      is antifreeze safe to burn indoors?

    • @TheBaconWizard
      @TheBaconWizard Před rokem +1

      Blimey, that's a very specific recipe. What's the thinking?

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem +2

      Hopefully it has a chimney to outside

    • @brucereichert6509
      @brucereichert6509 Před rokem +1

      @@pattiannepascual it hasn't caused any problems in 3 years and there is a chimney for the exhaust gases.

    • @pattiannepascual
      @pattiannepascual Před rokem

      @@brucereichert6509 I will have to try it for my shed house. the fuel can't get any cheaper. wish stupid jerk tube would still allow us to post pictures.i would have loved to see your setup.i live stealth in a city so can't burn anything that produces smoke, like wood.

  • @stewartpalmer2456
    @stewartpalmer2456 Před rokem

    Dr. Smith, I see you have given precautions, here is one more, as you almost demonstrated it removing the mantle, with a highly combustible fuel source such as alcohol, if you tip it over, you will be very unhappy. might I suggest as well as your ceramic plate, a metal ballast plate and a magnet in the can bottom. Keep up the awesome teaching.

  • @djdrwatson
    @djdrwatson Před rokem +4

    I'm suggesting lard as a fuel. Looking for the cheapest fuel to power these heaters.

    • @marcwilson1052
      @marcwilson1052 Před rokem

      Thats interesting

    • @stuffoflardohfortheloveof
      @stuffoflardohfortheloveof Před rokem +1

      I take exception to that 😂

    • @marcwilson1052
      @marcwilson1052 Před rokem +1

      I know lard is energy dense. I've seen a guy cut through 2 inch plate using a bacon filled pipe, to make a fire Lance. Such a waste of bacon though. Always thought it would have been better to cook the bacon and use the grease instead!

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem

      Lard won’t wick unless you heat it first, possibly a light weight fuel to get it started/melt

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem

      @juanmercado2010 thinking outside the box eh, if you could warm the lard first then the original design would still work. Build two cans one to heat the lard with a simple wick and then the other one similar to Roberts design and you’ll get great heat output

  • @mercermouth7571
    @mercermouth7571 Před rokem

    Thank you for engaging the Closed Caption feature...

  • @mangledvideo
    @mangledvideo Před rokem

    i wish there was an equally easy to follow tutorial on how make isopropyl alcohol using stills. that would be a good companion piece to this.

  • @johnburrows7938
    @johnburrows7938 Před rokem

    Always enjoy your videos, some peoples comment are so ridiculous it’s hard to imagine them watching your vids with any kind of serious and safety thoughts. It’s so obvious you have to be extra careful with this kind of heater. 😊

  • @glevideo
    @glevideo Před rokem

    I'll suggest that fiberglass insulation can be used as a wicking material in place of the carbon felt. Let me ask about denatured alcohol. Is it methanol or ethanol or something in between? I can buy it in one gallon cans at the hardware store. I've used denatured alcohol for many years in my little homemade soda can cooking stoves for light weight backpacking.

  • @TheNiteinjail
    @TheNiteinjail Před rokem

    The "prop" in isopropyl alcohol is the same molecule as the prop in Propane... it's a bit like rearranging the propane to fit in a plastic bottle lol

  • @Johny40Se7en
    @Johny40Se7en Před 11 měsíci

    4:46 a lot of people like to do that, regardless of having rubbing alcohol laying around. I'll show myself out 😅🤭😆😝👉
    Brilliant experiment, cheers. Also, you know when there's a yellow flame, don't you get soot too, so you can't use it indoors? 🤔

  • @johnkillen588
    @johnkillen588 Před rokem

    funny and informative ( thank you!)

  • @BroversXproductions
    @BroversXproductions Před rokem +1

    Could you theoretically use something like this to melt aluminium in a graphite crucible?
    Might be worth a try, especially for the rocket stove! Would really test the capability of it.

  • @techtinkerin
    @techtinkerin Před rokem +2

    Literally the only downside to this idea is the cost of the fuel.😎👍

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 Před rokem +1

      That’s the challenge, finding cheap or free fuel to make the most of these DIY heaters

  • @sarahlange1002
    @sarahlange1002 Před rokem +4

    *PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TEST WITH VEGETABLE OIL ! ! !*
    It's soooo much cheaper than the other fuels, but is it effective?

    • @Gabrong
      @Gabrong Před rokem +3

      Well, these days it's not necessarily cheaper unless it's used

    • @annebeignatborde1832
      @annebeignatborde1832 Před rokem +3

      What kind of vegetable oil? Even the "cheap" sunflower and rapeseed oils are 3€60 a litre where I live.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Před rokem +7

      lol - easy - wait until tomorrow lol

    • @sarahlange1002
      @sarahlange1002 Před rokem +4

      @@ThinkingandTinkering *Ha ha!* That's awesome because here in Australia, methanol and ethanol are ridiculously expensive and difficult to find... whereas 4 liters of vegetable oil is about £8 / $9 USD.
      I've got parts on order for your oil "forever" wick candle and I'm looking forward to tomorrow's video. This is interesting and fun and good to test for prepping because who knows where this Great Reset will play out?
      I perfected my favorite rocket stove deign years ago and now the exploration of hating options / experiments is enjoyable.