Sur Ron Get Stopped By The Trail Police 🚨
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2023
- Trail Police STOPPED US on our Sur Ron | "These are illegal!"
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Hello Viewers! In this short we got stopped by the "trail police" and was told the Sur Ron is illegal. We had a small debate about the logic and we went on our way. Thankfully they were kinda cool about it and we kept on riding our Sur Rons.
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you and your boyfriend on your other shitmobile cannot be serious posting this acting like you deserve any sympathy 💀
wow you posted another video to show how moron you guys are.
L video. The karen was you not the police. The police were actually polite. How dumb it is to compare a surron to a mountain bike? I have a 7k carbon enduro mountain bike and that thing is light compred to the bulky battery powered dirt bike. Also if you mod ur surron you can reach very high speed that the enduro wont reach unless ur going down a large hill. The video is only making you look u bad. Most dirt bikers actually meet karens and not go around being dicks
I ride a 2 stroke dirt bike. LOVE IT. I ride a pedal assist E-Bike. LOVE IT. I ride a pedal only mountain bike LOVE IT. Electric dirt bikes like the Sur Ron look rad. I'll almost certainly have one someday and LOVE THAT TOO.
I volunteer for trail work on the trails I ride. One thing I don't do is play games with "trail police" pretending I don't know I'm on a machine that is not allowed on that trail, or argue with someone as to why it should be allowed. Why put them in that position? Show some respect and real kindness. Pay attention and abide by trail regulations. If you don't like it, organize with other riders on the same machines to change the use through the channels everyone else has to go through.
That takes to much time. Just ride and pay the ticket. Fuck em
I feel you man. I get so annoyed with people telling me I can't drive my truck on the bike path... Bunch of Karens.
my truck identifies as a bicycle what now
n California, electric bicycles are regulated in the same way as traditional bicycles. Both vehicles must follow the same rules of the road.
The state defines three classes of e-bikes.
Class 1: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph.
Class 2: Bicycle equipped with a throttle-actuated motor, that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 20 mph.
Class 3: Bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the e-bike reaches 28 mph.
@@caulkwater Do some more research, your normal emtb is different than a electric motorcycle that does 45 plus.
@@caulkwater There are also E-motorcycles with no pedal assist or speed limiters that look very similar to the bikes in this video... not sure how California classifies those.
@@stephenkohler3472 no cop is gonna care
They know these are not allowed on the trails. There is a sign posted at most entrances. They just don’t care.
Not true
@@keithbrown9512 Sign at the entrance says otherwise. None motorised only.
@@joshhuber501 They’re… not gas
@@noahnone4795 motorised doesnt mean it uses gas dumb dumb
a lot of trails around me don’t even allow normal ebikes
*The Karen's are now the cameramen*
Just so everyone understands the laws of riding in California state park trails, only e-bike class 1 are allowed to be on the trails. Class 1 is pedal assist (no throttle) with a max speed of 20 mph. This Suron is considered class 4, which is technically an e-motorcycle and not an e-bike.
When we were kids, we rode 200 pound dirt bikes pretty much any where. People cried and now we got a little tiny patch of sand. After a few generations of that, most youngsters have thrown their lives away.
@@wannabecarguyboo hoo
Whatever class it's in, it's still a useless piece of crap to me.
@@DaveyMulhollandliterally the only people crying are the Karen’s that can’t handle anyone having fun
Los Angeles used to be the land of the gangsta.
Now they wear masks and cry like the dude. 😅
He just told you the rules , he didn't stop you. He did nothing wrong here.
He did stop them
@@Boostiverse no because they could have kept going
@@klu_klux_on_the_set When you say they could've kept going, do you mean into the 3 ft brush outside of the trail they were blocking?
@@ThePokerStreets916 did you not watch the last part of the video where they pull off onto the the trail right in front of them?????? Or just blind???🙄
@@Boostiverse They left and went on their way where they intended. How is that stopping them ? Do you know what stop means ?
I know the guy on the MTB and he is a really good dude. Without putting his info out here let's just say he is a fixture in the SoCal biking community, and spends hundreds of hours of his time volunteering so the community can have a place to ride bikes. He is speaking from experience, and is just making you aware. And I say this as someone who has A Surron.
Well, he’s setting a very bad example to his community here.
he still seems like a karen asshole though, lycra boys need to get over e-bikes they are the future of this sport . this just seems like a couple of grandpa’s having a tantrum to sooth there bruised egos
@@DearProfessorRF How? He is literally telling them in the most calm manner that they could get a fine and have their bikes seized? He is also completely right about their bikes doing more damage to other people than a standard MTB.
@@InfiltrateDestroy93the guy just can't take being given warnings by authority
@@InfiltrateDestroy93 yes, that’s what I meant: the biker as being a bad example.
To be fair, the guy was actually being super cool about it. Calling it like he sees it, in your best interest, wasn't telling you what to do
Nope he was trying to scare them away but he's a p*ssy
He was lying to him to try and ruin his time. It’s not illegal to ride an electric bike on a ‘bike’ trail. 😂
The guy was cool but he’s in the wrong every law on this world is fucked up
My guy was giving major dad vibes that sounds like something I would do but truly just trying to make sure you guys don’t have to deal with no BS not trying to be a Karen
He was being a smug prick
State Park law "no motor vehicles" allowed in park.
Motor vehicles will be impounded.
Unless they have peddles then it’s magically ok STUPID RULES ELECTRIC IS ELECTRIC
Without pedals it isn't a bicycle, it is classified as a motorcycle.
@@russelleckert8940GG, sthu.
@@russelleckert8940it has to be class 1. Pedal assist only, no throttle, you must pedal to make it move. Pedal assist e bikes are virtually the same as regular Amish style mountain bikes. They just allow older and or handicapped people to enjoy the trails and they support mountain biking community.
Not a motorized vehicle, where is the gas tank
I love when people out themselves as assholes on the internet😂
Like you 🤷♂️💀
@@I.CANT.SEE.REPLIES. hoes mad
@@mitchellgraff7131 called you out but thats all you half to say, how disappointing. I also put a laughing emoji so that indicates I'm not mad lmao. Like tell me you're retarded without telling me you're retarded. 🤷♂️💀
They aren’t destroying the trail or endangering people if they’re careful
@Sauce ///M3 until somebody someday are not so cautious. That's why we have legislation right, to avoid potential risk? Why do you think we have speed limits on different roads, because lessons have been learned. Unfortunately many have died in accidents overspeeding, because some don't take care. It's not rocketsience you know...
You might not like them,but they are most likely right. Sur Ron's are illegal on most MTB trails
it suck but you just gotta respect it
Most is the keyword and not even most if you take care of the trail you wouldn’t mind other people using it because you’d be fixing it and working on it later they are lazy and don’t wanna keep the trail good enough for others just themselves it’s ironic actually because his clothes are so tight he’s turning a tad bit purple
they don't own the trail it's public land f there laws they don't obey laws why should anyone f you Democrat pos
No they are not. Peddle assist e bikes are. And ebikes are governed down to under 20 mph
…and it is good to know there are trail police; are they also in bike path/trail?
They know that motorised bikes aren’t allowed, they just don’t care
True. They should have simply said "I know."
We also know sniffing and diddling kids is wrong, so maybe the president should also just say "I know".
Quit being a nerd. If you want to ride motocross get a real bike. Those are bicycle trails man.
Quit being a nerd, if you want to be the president of the USA in order to sniff and diddle kids, just skip the president part 🎉
I hate it when those Karens tell me i can't drive my combine harvester through a kindergarten school.
In my case a logging truck through the garden!
yeea man or when I can't shoot my Colton1911 againts things in movement alive or not...Karens everywere
Bro lmao
LOL 😝🤪😬
A slight exageration. Maybe share the trails.
Dude is just giving you fair warning. Good luck with your future tickets.
Luck, with tickets?
@@oklahomaditchpickles8705 ignorant
Don't even know what your talking about😂
@@aribaariba8609 not a mtb trail 🤡🤡🤡
it’s not a fair warning it’s entitlement hahaha costumes an everything
Nah man - in all these videos the cyclists are correct, legally morally and ethically.
Dude filming tried to compare a electronic motorcycle to a 30lb mtb lol
Nobody would do that, these mtb lame af. Surrons are awesome.
Btw i sometimes ride an ftr1200 on these trails, just rev a bit when crybabies like u yap yap and they always stfu in an instant 😊😂
And the president of the USA is sniffing and diddling kids in between pooping his diaper after his senile speeches...let's go ahead and prioritize...also go ahead and hand over that "moral high ground card", doesn't belong to you bruh lol
You mean to tell me I’m not supposed to ride my 2 stroke in hiking trails🤣
Bro got personally offended when dude said you better have ids if they stop you or they’ll confiscate your bike
Ong I would’ve just been like no I got that
Absolute asinine and petulant kids masquerading as know it all adults 😂
Because that dude is MAKING SHIT UP which is a dik move..
The Joke is that No license is required for those bikes. ITS not illegal on that trail.
The Ebikers are just letting the ignorant liars embarass themselves. He was offended so much as clowning that fool.
They get this every day so they just play wit the fools
@@bigjerm1631 he was offended and confused cause he said “what makes you think we don’t have our ids on us” which was not at all what that dude was saying
"We will get your bikes confiscated because we don't like what you're doing". Really???
Trail Karen's should not be bent, folded nor mutilated....*most of the time
Nice bike
2nd rider just wanted drama! No need to be an buster!
These guys are part of the Santa Monica mtb club that routinely does trail maintenance out there… looks like Agoura hills area. Probably why they felt the need to “police” the trails that they put their time into.
They dont own the land they can go f themselves
Well after confrontation the view of the trail looks terrible so they do a piss poor job of maintaining the trail
@@flintstoner210 from tje bikes ruining it lol
@@jimtom4878🤡
@@NobodyReport imagine defending soyboy ebike riders💀💀🤡🤡
hes not “trail police”, hes warning you when the real trail police take your bikes and make you Uber home.
Nobodies coming, that's the problem.
The guys on the motorized bikes, remind me of the people that vape and doors, and sit there, and argue with people and blow in their face afterwards. Total clowns.
People getting upset for being pricks and getting called out....pretty much a daily occurrence at this point 😅
Ur just mad you don’t have his bike broke boi
"Stop doing that thing cause it's illegal hurdur". You people REALLY hate asking question like "WHY is that illegal".
The ones who stopped them are like adult hall monitors
@@chris135x dude, get the signatures, organize to put it on the next ballot, convince enough people to vote for it and have it your way.
if it doesn't work, change tactics, convince more ppl and try it again.
that's how things work, this is where we are, this is how we solve stuffs.
@@chris135x why ask when we already know... surrons will soon be placed under the "atv" category.
As a former snowmobiler, I always respected cross country skiers' trails. Obviously some people can't comprehend why laws are made. People that make the laws possess way more common sense and education than these lawbreakers
People who ride these electric motorcycles are lacking ethics.
There's likely some Surron owners who follow the rules. The guys in the video fully understand they aren't supposed to be on that trail with their Surron electric motorcycles that have 90 km/hr top speeds.
Oh, man. There are a lot of jerks on regular bicycles, too. I am not an e bike rider. Don't like them. But the fact is, a lot of people do ride e bikes. I look down on them as soft wannabes. BUT, I keep my opinions to myself.
"Shut Up And Ride," is my creed.
Be courteous. Respect other riders, e bikes and traditional.
I’m not a cyclist nor a grown up toy rider but the mountain bikers had a legitimate gripe. They probably maintain those trails and don’t need some grown up on a razor tearing shit up.
No they dont they have govt agencies to do that paid by tax payers. Mountain Bikers dont own shet. It was probably a native american trail to begin with anyway not a mountain bike trail. They think they own everything.
Your Karen is showing. Grow up and mind your own business.
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂 they all brake up nature. So who cares ....
@@JoshL1976 yeah but the razor men don’t fix and maintain it, they just trash it and move on. They can’t go to a motocross track because they will be laughed out of town so they ruin bicycle paths.
@chess brah as I said. I’m not a cyclist but I do see the cyclists maintaining trails that bicyclists and hikers use when I go fishing. I got no skin in the game but it’s dickish to tear up trails people work hard to maintain
Dude was super cool. He was trying to make the point that your motorcycle is 4 times heavier than a mountain bike, so if you hit someone with it, it will do more damage. Come on, you know you’re wrong….
Oh really a bigger bike is heavier thanks for pointing out the obvious...
This reminds me of the video of the Ski Hill guide saying snowboards are going to hurt skiers
@@bobmarley2140obviously some people need it
It’s not a motorcycle you dumb Cunt
If you get struck by lightning you'll die? Does that mean we ban going outside in thunder storms?
Screw surrons. They are why people hate on Ebikes.
Why do people think they own this planet, leave them alone, they are just riding and enjoying the day just like you, but they are not pedalling, so does that makes them different? No
Imagine needing a license to ride a e-bike in the middle of nowhere through a field lol
I bet he needs the e-bike cuz he’s 300 lbs 😂
@@civicilian you ever rode one? let me guess you cant afford one?
Those are illegal here” illegal? “ ya tootally illegal!” 🤣 HA what a putts
Looks like a bike trail
The main reasons that motorized bikes cant go on bike trails is that they do significantly more damage than a normal bicycle..
It can take as long as 80 years for land to recover after a dirt bike rips off the top-layer.. ebikes can be just as powerful and spin the tires in the same manner.
Those police where super friendly hope they stay on the force
The cops are morons , it’s legal to drive the Suron and they are almost just a light as his pedal bike . It’s all electric
They were not police
They are MRCA folks, most likely volunteers working for the trail.
Mountain Bike Unit folks are not police.
Total units. Live and let live. Walk peddle ride who gives af NONE OF YOU PU$$IES OWN NATURE. This is exactly what's wrong with the world today. Karens and Chads minding other folks business. 😂 Piss off and eat dust. Brap Brap
BS. I used to love driving my car through the mall until some Karens called the cops and I I can’t drive ever anywhere.
He called the cops shortly after you left 😂
Can’t get annoyed with their attitude though they were chill
No they weren't lol. Anyone who doesn't mind their own business isn't "chill"
@@RP-ue9wy They are letting them know what’s up and looking out for them. Are we not watching the same video?
@@skrily35p20 we watching the same video but getting diff views on it. He was extremely passive aggressive dude is goofy af risking his life starting passive agressive confrontation in the middle of some trails. dudes tripping hate mfs that don't mind they own business and think they got some kind of authority by volunteering. If they wanted to "just tell them whats up" they coulda done that and stfu like ay yo btw opps around scoping for that typa sh watch ya back homie. Nah dude fronting him on some cop sh like f outa here you get slapped the f up how bought I hit you w this bike see what happens for your curious George looking ahh
@@TheDemonsFromSassoun agreed these bikers are to lazy to keep the trail tended good enough for everyone just themselves they don’t wanna have to fix it lazy bones
@@RP-ue9wy that is their business though you stupid moron
If you're not supposed to be there you can't get angry when people complain, you move on or you fuck off. You don't film them and act superior.
"You're not supposed to be here and that's why I'm nagging you" and "I'm trying to educate you". LOLZ!!
You’re the Karen in the video I can tell!!! 😂😂😂
Agreed, however I completely disagree with the many bans on Class 1 E Bikes out there, ignorant.
@Arch Stanton most laws don't make sense, and most people wouldn't care what they're riding..... but, if its illegal,then just be polite. You don't know the situation. Maybe that lady was hit by a bike before. Filming someone when you're in the wrong and trying to blame them just proves you're an asshole.
Exactly. Simply move to the right and let the motos by. No grandstanding. No righteousness. No slick Karen attitude scream fests. Live and let live. Its a common (or used to be) mantra for west coasters. Today california is a land of pretentious and ego bloat and illegal immigrants.
We sould declare was on it and turn it into Guantanamo bay, the worst douchbags tortured daily for their politics and the uptalk and the not-so-worst diuchbags given shovels to construct new trails while being forced to read the Constitution out loud, in a kind if sing song chain gain manner.
If you have a problem eith commom manners
He cut out the parts where he was whining like a baby to him
100%
The only person whining is the pussy complaining about the dirt bike
Yes. Watch the who,e clip for context everyone. This has blown up as they intended, but in their stupid self entitled faces
Yeah pretty telling when you have like 5 cuts in a 20s interaction
I hope they do take them. If it says no motorized vehicles then take them!
It’s simple… outlaw all vehicles, done.
What difference does it make to you? I bet u leave ur house twice a year at most.
Yep, put a tax on walking across the street ...Make them all walk around and paying a tax for every breath you take, and pay double for commerce, every breath you take while selling something tax is double
Sur Ron is an electric motorcycle it's not an ebike. Please respect the trail. It's over powered for mtb and hiking trail. The guy on mtb is right here.
It's actually a mid drive electric bike that you can ride anywhere. It literally says it on their website.
Whether you like it or not, with a 200$ pedal kit and riding in EP mode a Surron/Talaria/whatever is legally and definitionally an e-bike.
No he's not..... Trail riding is a risk for everyone. If you are scared of being outside stay home
@@feedussoup8999🤓
A Sur Ron can be considered either or, Depending on the state, County, city, Ect. A Sur Ron is considered a Class 2 Ebike.
Yeah I’m with the ranger/law on this one. It might be okay if you were on one of those smaller electric trail riders, but you guys are on full sized motor bikes. Tears up the mountain bike trail and can be dangerous…
Tearing up hard pack?like in this case
they aren't hurting anything
@@ferrallderrall6588 go and watch the full video. They just blast through and make all the hikers stand off to the side.
Also shows sections that these bikes destroyed and they couldn’t get through.
So yes, they do a lot in degrading the environment. That said, USA puts no money into maintenance of anything anymore.
I have not seen a pothole in the western world for 10 years now …. Think they all immigrated to Murica
To be honest its probably one of the most ideal places they should be riding at. It's pretty open so they can see and slow down/stop for people easily. Unfortunately the problem here is the brand of bike. That's why the guy mentions a drivers license. They look slick and go fast so people like them but they don't comply with state law. In my state I think they cannot go faster than 28mph and they have a power restriction aswell. This bike is like 10x the power and doubles the allowed speed so it qualifies as a motorcycle.
Doesn't really have much to do with it's size or tearing up trails. Bikes in compliance with the law can be the same size or heavier and tear it up all the same.
Air up or down and the surron leaves less of a footprint so to speak, and how is this trail originated?I dont know but if its hickers and mtb I'd eat a rode in boot
I hope you lose your job
As a guy who has built mtb trails and owns two sur ron....I agree STAY OFF MTB TRIALS.. they fuck them off. we can ride Ron's everywhere but mtbs need their trails
Interestingly I hear nothing but crickets in response to your comment, lol! Go figure, peace.
@welern2liv ...they have no defense.
Is there a reason for having 2 of them opposed to 1?
@@ThePokerStreets916 always a bike for someone else to ride with me
@@NuvoVision well that's awesome
If you hit someone with your bike, it's because you are blind, so probably don't ride.
Spoken like someone who’s never ridden a bike
@@edbrookmedia2566 I don't own a car, I ride a bike.
25 pound carbon fiber bike vs 200 pound electric motorcycle
Yeah the mtb'ers are correct. Suron's in almost all area's are not allowed on the bike trails.
Sorry your to poor and lazy...
Just plain illegal to drive around without paying government taxes...
Had the same last week, just minding my own business while I taxied my plane on a trail. It's just metal. 😂
Oh dear did the trail police come along and just try to educate you 🤣
You're the guy who thinks I need a pilot license to fly my electric vtol. 🙄
Surron owners are the absolute worst
Personally I’d mind my own business, let the park ranger confiscate it.
Getting no where talking to a guy like that being overly nice to you.
That guy was being overly demanding and thinking he had some sort of authority over him 😂😂😂😂 literally fuck those two😊
He was just afraid inside, so instantly went to defense mode 😮
More like what loser stops you mid trail to let you know your electric mt bike can’t be on the trail😂 that guy can get lost
@@freevideoservice no, men should not be quick to anger, that's the trait of a BOY
@@RSClassicAngel boys are afraid, inside, and they don't want to show their fear outside, so they camouflage it with anger
I think he was just being cool warning you the day you can get your shit taken and especially if you don't have your ID with you so make sure you carry ID. And then you get all offended LOL
Yeah that's what I understood as well.
He just wanted them out of there,he needs to mind his business
@@GTFOofHEREpeople complain all the time when they finally get caught 🙄
You DO NOT need a drivers license to use a BICYCLE, guy. Like wtf is with you people?
@@imanoldurango8213 People also complain about "that ebike is illegal hurdur stop using it to go places hurdur". I swear......
These guys 100% know they're not legal on these trails but think rules don't apply to them.
@@btowngolfr812 doubtful they're only £4000
Who cares? Whats the problem?
Bike riders are on the roads constantly breaking road laws where its way more dangerous then a pathway through a field and up a couple hills.
Did they hit these guys? Nah.
These tards are stopped there for what??
@@btowngolfr812why are you all sucking his dick? People confirms the laws (that they're wrong) and all y'all have to say is "wHaT, yOu'Re JeAlOuS?". Literally nobody is jealous and flaunting another man's "wealth" is cringy as fuck. Are you 12 years old?
@@btowngolfr812 My mtb costs more then a suron lol
@@btowngolfr812you're 100% to dumb
All I heard was, “I’m calling the cops as soon as you leave.” 😂🤣
All heard was race past the don’t stop
The audacity of him wearing American flag gloves while acting like a tyrant 😂😂😂
that is the new America, fascism, the world of laws.... they figure if they make enough rediculus laws people will have to pay pay pay just to live.
"You will not be cited unless you were seen!"
I probably wouldn’t have been that nice. Get those dirt bikes off the trail if it’s not a motorized use area.
Why? They aren't hurting anything. It's just a bicycle with an electric motor. Karens get mad at the smallest things.
I guess when you’re that stupid, you can’t tell the difference between electric dirtbike, and a bicycle
@@zelda7ase look at the size difference between the rear tires. they are not just bicycles, they're electric dirt bikes. They can and do tear up the trail far more than any bicycle could and ride at higher speeds than physically possible on a mtb.
@@freestyle648 so i could go on that track with mud tires on, which are basically as thick as though and you would have a problem with that it sounds like.
Both bikes are tearing up the track. you see that massive path thats been torn up.
@@qwerty49424 Electric bike puts a lot more torque to the wheel than a human can. That's what does the damage.
You can't tell me what to do, you're not even my real dad!!😂😂😂😂😂
If your dad doesnt discipline you, the world will 😂
Ya well my dad can beat up your dad
We'll be dealing with him down the road since his parents didn't.
LMAO 😂
Yet you still like to call him daddy and likes when he spanks you. 😅
And I’m not gonna call him dad, EVER! Not even if there’s a FIRE!
I took my ww2 tank on that trail last week and met the same Karen’s 😂
As a cyclist who rides trails almost daily all I ask is that you please do not do burn outs and rutt up the trail. One love, one tribe people.
Bro this is outdoor… do you also ask the rain not to dig trenches ??
@@weedismyreligion bruh if you make a rut yourself and say it does rain then the water will pool into it and make it even worse over time, itll just get bigger. a lil baby one is whatever
@@weedismyreligionthis dude for sure lives with parents still and doesn’t take responsibility for any of the action you do
These appear to be electric moto bikes 😅 not sure about the legality of them on trails
Part of riding tracks is because of the roughness,stay on the pavement otherwise
Can not speak for the US, but in my country the MTB community puts in a lot of effort to realise mtb- trails, getting the permits, building and maintaining them.
Every other community(horse or surron) is free to do the same. Just do not be rude and go on trails that are not meant for your vehicle class.
Besides that there are of course general trails where everyone is allowed. On those trails just take care of eachother and be nice.
Citizens are allowed anywhere on public land, if you do not own the land, you have no right to complain.
its the same here in the us
@@MrDearCandy A lot of the time someone does own that land but allows other people to be on it. There are still rules and a sense of being a social human being.
Is it that goddam hard just to follow simple rules instead of feeling like you're the special one
Everyone needs a nanny, so we can all be tucked in bed in our furry pajamas. We used to be a free country. Now we have someone looking over your shoulder every 5 seconds. Do you remember when they closed the woods for Covid?
Smart recording yourself being a smart ass and making the other guy the reasonable person 😅 people will post anything for attention so here you go sir👏
Finally some who understands, he could’ve took it as a learning experience rather than being numbskull
Free country, cry about it. Get off the trail if you’re slow, e bikes rule. BOZO
@@_VXLS don't hurt yourself now, why you got to take it so personal
Stop being arrogant in another country 😂
@@_VXLSyou okay?
Facts. The speeds and weight of the suron have much higher consequences. He was trying to argue like NOooOo same.
I guess if you weigh more than 150lbs you cant ride a bike because if you hit someone you breaking some bones - they don't go any faster downhill than a regular bike so tell me what is the difference?
@@davehowell6703 If anything they go slower downhill, the crying is always but you can go faster uphill which destroys the trail, sounds more like people are just upset they have to put in work getting to the fun.
@@davehowell6703 the bike itself weighs 160lbs plus dude it's a full steal diet hike frame if ya hit someone they will probably die after 35-40 mph where as a push bike isn't ever pushing 20
Did you really say going faster uphill destroys the trail? How is different than going fast downhill. I generally go a lot faster than 20 downhill
Low iq
This ain’t police😂 these are karens
Dude was way too nice about it
Yo broskii former park worker that worked at that park. The reason you ain’t supposed to ride e-bikes is because it fucks up the trail way more than non assisted bikes.
Youre full of absolute shit i am a current builder use mine to haul the tools out to where im working and they dont do jack. When i rip my mtb i leave an actual trac
No it don’t…. That’s like the cops telling me my skateboard is cracking the street… fuck out of here with your Karen self
And I can say that mtn bikes fuck up the trail more than walking so it should be walking only. I can also say walking down a trail disturbs nature so none of it should be allowed. See how stupid of a reason that is? "This is allowed because it fucks up nature a little less than that does. It's still fucking it up, just not as much as that one so it makes it alright." That's a dumbass reason lol
Broskii! This is the 1970s calling for their catchphrase back!
That's exactly what I was thinking. These things are torque monsters and also too fast
if I saw these on my trails I wouldn't be super stoked either. they rip up the single track, and should only be ridden on trails authorized for dirtbikes and other OHVs
Yeah the lady in lycra is actually right.
How modern electric bikes are held to a different standard than gas is amazing.
That’s an electric motorbike, so yea he’s right in saying you shouldn’t be there.
@@Arcadi4.44 it’s not an e bike kid, doesn’t fall under any of the 3 classes
@@Arcadi4.44 Even bikes u can't have on trails In many states because it causes erosion and the lithium batteries cause a fire hazard which is the last thing ppl want in the middle of the woods or an open field of tall grass like here
e-bikes*
@@skylarporter1449 lol Samsungs was blowing up a few years back they goin to ban phones too?
@@njt03 depends what state you're in bud, and at the end of the day it doesn't. Cause the guy catching you doesn't know the law anyway. It's if they care or not. And turns out they don't usually care so
Dude is on a 100+ pound machine and thinks it’s the same as a pedal bike
I mean it might be 100lbs tops..but some pedal bikes get heavy too, not really a difference in the middle of nowhere frankly
@@scaredofghosts6813that heavy overweight police officer doesn't have the skill to ride a full metal MTB safely.
Its ebike - electric bike. Ever heard of one?
Yeah, if you weigh 100 lbs more than me you shouldn't be allowed on the trail either I guess.
@@rotavation you can weigh 65kg and be on 50kg surron thats 115kg in total. You can also weigh 100kg and be on 25kg mountain bike. Thats 125kg in total...
You can see the cop totally doesnt agree with the rule but has to enforce it. Cops arent all bad they just do their job. Blame the lawmakers not people who enforce it.
This isnt the land of the free, this is the land of the Karen's.
If the trail says no motorized vehicles then no motors 🤷♂️
Those trails were made by guys on dirtbikes before mountain biking was even a thing. The entire mountain bike movement is predicated on stealing other people's public trail systems.
Oddly enough, you can have a motor on your bike and not be classed as a motorized vehicle. In the US, you can do this if your bike is class 2 or below. But these bikes are not e-bikes because they aren't fitted with pedals, and are likely not class 2 or below because the governor is undoubtedly disabled.
Where is the gas tank, I do not see a gas tank... electric bike is not a motorize vehicle , cannot drive them on the freeway
When your “dirt bike” isn’t capable of proper trails so you have to ride mtb trails
These are NOT mtb trails.... they are public trails
Lol you seen legit mtb trails?
@@VoltedAdventures just because it’s public doesn’t mean you can bring motorized vehicles lol I’m sure the trailhead lists it as multi use which is hikers, runners and bikers…
@@VvvnimaL I ride mtb, so yea. It looks like a nice XC trail.
@@Fvckyourfxce patrol guy said MRCA - so Santa Monica Mountains (could even be a National Recreation Area), and definitely not OHV trails. Fines and possible jail time if they get caught as its a federal crime.
I have a pedal kit on my Surron. Anywhere a bicycle can go, I can go. Legally by law in my state.
What state is that , I am moving there
then take a 4 wheel drive or dirt bike trail, they have more of those dont they? Why annoy cyclists on your Moped/ minibike adjacent wanker machines.
I'm in Colorado. Technically we just lack laws governing these types of ebikes. So they fall under class 3 ebike here. Being pedal assisted you could fight for class 2. Then with a aftermarket controller you can tune down to the 750 watts. So while normally my bike is 7kw I could simply switch to a very specific mode in eco that's turned way the fuck down. Now at that point, who and how are they going to prove you violated the law? They aren't, simply put the resources required outweigh the potential outcome of a successful case. Also important to note Denver won't pull you over for low level traffic infractions so riding your surron in the street here is now essentially legal without registration as they will not pull you over for it. There is also a no chase policy here so if a cop does try and pull you over all you have to do is dump it and that's the end of that. @@PerpetualMan22
I hate karens like this
Thats one sure way we are going to get all trails closed by riding motorized vehicles on non motorized trails.
No trails are getting closed, relax....
@@VoltedAdventures you guys didn’t seem to be ripping er at all idk ppl get so upset
@@VoltedAdventures Check around and look further than your local area you’ll see trails are being closed .
@@VoltedAdventureshey bub. Get your electric shit elsewhere. End of story. Nobody gives a fuck about you or e bike on a mountain bike trail
Sign 🪧 says “closed”
Me: cool 😎, imma head in anyways because people are doing M3tH in front of elementary schools nowadays and their not arrested.
Surron weighs almost 50kg, and average enduro MTB is 15kg big difference
Smh thats 100 lbs or so. So fat people cant trails on mtb? Ill let my brother in law know that hes too fat for the trails.
@SupremeSok is your brother rigid like a bike too? Plus I guess you're not wrong he is more dangerous 😅
@@KhmerSupaSoka your fat brother is not gonna be moving fast enough to do real damage, meanwhile if you buy his terrible genetics on a sur ron he can go 40mph down the trail no problem. It just sucks that you got the low IQ genetics and he got the bad physique genetics. Feel bad for your parents tbh lol
@@HarryL2020
The problem isn’t weight so much it’s wheel spin. Surrons provide enough power to break the rear wheel loose which chews up trails.
@@chucknoob7041 I agree, that and the speed they can do especially in areas of a trail where you'd expect an MTB to be fairly slow
When a electric motocycle with fake pedals identify as a ebike...
Yeah - they are illegal on the trails.
Biggest problem with these bikes is you dropped $2K on a bike that’s only legal in a few places and after a few months you’re already bored with the places in your area that tolerate them
Then maybe not buy these bikes…
Most consumers are aware of these issues before their purchase.
Arent they closer to 4k?
Tolerate? 😂
5k for a Surron …I’ve had mine for 3 years and ride it daily, usually on trails people comment how quiet it is✌🏽
People don't realize how close this came to breaking out in a full on slap fight..... its lucky both gangs went their separate ways.
Go touch some grass. Neither party got off their bikes.
Super dangerous situation
Lmao oh shut up you child
The guy is right. Why be such a jerk? Just heed his warning and ride on.
Americans, please stop saying "I appreciate you" lol You can only appreciate something someone does.
The difference between momentum and weight of the electric vs mtb. It's as he said the consequences are much higher.
Exactly the reason why Electric cars should be banned from the road… lol. U do know accidents with e-vehicle’s are deadlier because of the extra weight of battery
@@MrDanielSolano007 not true 🤣🤡
@@MrDanielSolano007 definitely not because of battery weight, maybe from the lithium catching fire and not going out
@@MrDanielSolano007 that has got to be one of the stupidest takes on electric cars I've ever heard, cry harder that you can't afford one.
So what if the mountain bike rider weighs 300 lbs? And is going down a hill at 30-40 mph. Isn’t that the same danger you’re talking about? The bike only weighs a little over 100 lbs. average rider weighs in around 170-200 lbs. what’s the difference? Should we ban fat people from trail riding?
Well done the OP just videoed himself riding illegally and not absorbing any helpful criticism
Bros riding a bike on a trail…. Let me guess ur a trail Karen as well
Illegal or unlawfull?
You just karened yourself with that comment.
@Davemike27 they obviously do.
@@lightseek88 indeed
Yes i hate it when karens pull me over for driveing my truck on tge sidewalk
Just another cyclist not wanting to share the road
The difference between a 25-pound mountain bike and a 110-pound Sur Ron is night and day. One will give you maybe a hairline fracture. The other will brake a bone in half. I cant do 40 mph down a hill on a mountain bike. you can on a Sur Ron. Hell, you did it and broke your shoulder. And you were on the bike just imagen being a hiker that didn't see you coming around a blind corner.
definitely can hit 40 on a downhill but the weight difference is a huge thing when it comes to injury
The surron is to heavy to keep up with downhill bikes, uphill is another story
@Sur ron Zak It's called a throttle. Twistl and you hit 50 to 55 mph. No mountain bike can do that.
This is America. Worry about your own safety there buddy
@michaelcerda5514 I don't care about your safety that's your responsibility. I'm talking about others. When you threaten the safety of others with reckless behavior, you make it everybody's business. Respect those around you, and you get it in return.
break the rules, complain when someone gets upset. yep, surron owners 🙄
yea these guys are losers 😂
shut up smh
Oh, no. Another hater. Another person who's jealous because they can't afford their own a****** 💩 paper.
Ride be FREE stop the bs . Clean up your mess . Enjoy outside . Be cool
@@DaleGribbs214oh jee golly gosh, what’s the e bike gonna do in the middle of a field, people act like this’ll murder 840 people purely based on it’s an e bike on a dirt trail.
Bro, you know your damn Sur Ron isnt allowed on the trail. Stop!
That old man wasn’t cool . The tactic was he was using the safety as an excuse to tell you I don’t like those ebikes
He’s right though. It’s basically an mx bike just because it’s electric doesn’t make it any different, you hit someone they be goosed
This should be posted as "am I the asshole" ? And yes, you are.
Yes you are
Tiny IQ
For riding an e bike through a field on a public trail???
@@StabbyJoe135 that's not an ebike my friend, it's closer to an e-motorcycle and the trail, as far as I understand, doesn't allow those.
@@StabbyJoe135they destroy the trails
Police aren't wrong... Kids got lucky
scary when you have police officers saying this when you need a minimum of a bachelors degree to apply become a police officer
this is scary
Those Suron guys KNOW they’re not supposed to be on that trail and yet act ignorant. The MTBiker was just stating facts. I hope their dirtbikes got confiscated because no matter how deny it, those are electric DIRT BIKES not bicycles.
And theyre wrecking trails for the rest of us
I get it. You must really want one bad.
I don't own one but I'd never try to tell a stranger what to do
That's just sticking your nose in where its not wanted
Karen
@nk-dw2hm I'll go out today and shovel a trail just for you bud. ;) maybe run some fishing wire across.
I am all for the Sur-Ron on trails but he’s right, it’s going to hurt significantly more if a 140 pounds e-bike hits you at 30mph it’s going to hurt significantly more than a 20 pounds mtb at 15 miles…
Whether you are on a sur ron or a 15 lb carbon fiber cross country bike. You probably should just not hit anyone.
watch the fuck out then u cry baby
@@austindobbins8957 thats literally not the point, but thanks for stopping in with that important information.
The argument this guy in uniform is giving is ridiculous. You put the uniform on all common sense goes out the window... His argument doesn’t meet common sense standards…