CHEAP vs EXPENSIVE katana, Which one is better?

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  • čas přidán 23. 06. 2023
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Komentáře • 783

  • @fettmaneiii4439
    @fettmaneiii4439 Před 11 měsíci +853

    As someone who has worked with 2x4's for over 10 years of my life I can tell you just by the color difference of that second 2x4 that you cut with the thousand dollar katana with, that 2x4 is much harder than the lighter fresh wood colored one. It was a difference in wood, not blade there.
    That grey-ish discoloration on the second 2x4 is sun hardened/seasoned wood. Trust me guys- if you really want to do a fair test, you have to use 2 of the same 2x4's from the same lot.

    • @Sunburst_No
      @Sunburst_No Před 11 měsíci +23

      The only difference in the results would be the board not splitting. The katanas will warp and bend and chip the same as the previous tests, guaranteed.

    • @holderheck
      @holderheck Před 11 měsíci +114

      ​@@Sunburst_Nona I feel a difference with a skill saw between lumbers he's got a very valid point.

    • @badadvice787
      @badadvice787 Před 11 měsíci +25

      Gray discoloration in usually caused by moisture from what I understand or at the very least moisture makes the process of the discoloration quicker. Your opinion is definitely relevant about would structurally changing. I know a little bit about storing wood in a humid all seasons climate. Having to plain wood again to refinish it is usually a lot worse than just storing it properly, but it depends on the weather conditions and if you can easily separate things to let them dry if needed. I used to help store large wood timbers.

    • @Ghostselkie
      @Ghostselkie Před 11 měsíci +42

      Yes.
      Everyone who worked with wood will learn that even two pieces of wood from the same tree can behave very differently.
      And then there is decay, moisture and many other factors that change the properties of wood. Fresh “green” wood is usually easier to cut and more flexible, older dried out “seasoned” wood is much harder and tend to break before bend.
      If you cook wood for some time, you can even squish it almost like a sponge.
      And also the alignment of the wood grain, how the fibers of the wood are arranged, is a big factor.
      And with used wood you don't know if there are cracks or weak spots from previously impacts and exposure to sun/moisture/bugs/mold/mushrooms...

    • @TeaBurn
      @TeaBurn Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@badadvice787 At my workplace we have a single fence panel indoors kept for showroom photographing, and a picnic park bench kept outdoors both made of 2x4s starting off with the usual beige wood color. The fence was kept by the large windows, blocking the sun, while the bench was untreated and got hit with all weather conditions, sun, rain, and snow. The only thing that changed of course, was the bench that changed to a steel-like grey color, and wood slightly warped after shrinking in certain areas. The fence kept indoors still looked the same as the day it was installed, despite the years of sun exposure by the large windows.
      Bottom line, I believe you are absolutely right.

  • @BigPanda096
    @BigPanda096 Před 11 měsíci +519

    Can we just appreciate how great the item respawn animations were in this video? So seamless. I for one, am in awe and appreciate their efforts. That was amazing to watch.

    • @Devlinator61116
      @Devlinator61116 Před 11 měsíci +14

      I had to watch Tyranth slashing the water bottles several times because the transition was so smooth.

    • @jameshamaker9321
      @jameshamaker9321 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Yes. The animation quality, is super smooth. I'm thinking Oz, has started using a mass effect teleport chamber or has a Psyduck on the property somewhere.

    • @yaro_sem
      @yaro_sem Před 11 měsíci +4

      That's just one of the default transitions in DaVinci Resolve. It takes as much effort as a regular crossfade. 10 years ago, it would have been impressive and would require a lot of work for every transition.

    • @VidelxSpopovich
      @VidelxSpopovich Před 11 měsíci +1

      I’m so glad Shad gave up drawing porn and started doing something productive.

    • @LKDesign
      @LKDesign Před 11 měsíci

      These edits looked nice. What keywords would I need to look up to find a tutorial about such tricks?

  • @ericbowers5968
    @ericbowers5968 Před 11 měsíci +273

    To be fair, Shad has consistently expressed his respect and fondness for katanas. The only weapon he's put an almost wholly negative light on is the nunchaku... Ive never seen any of his content where he's not strived to be completely objective in his reviews.

    • @cocodojo
      @cocodojo Před 11 měsíci +47

      The only thing Shad is more fond of than a katana... is a big, girthy stick!
      Except maybe for a machicolated big, girthy stick. But that's way too much power to wield by mortals!

    • @anubisean
      @anubisean Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@cocodojo A Bokken would be too powerful for Shad

    • @maxmaidiac2237
      @maxmaidiac2237 Před 11 měsíci

      🤡😵‍💫🤡 HA HA HA HA BAZINGA!

    • @leodouskyron5671
      @leodouskyron5671 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Reviews are almost never objective.

    • @User_2
      @User_2 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@leodouskyron5671 truly objective reviews are worthless

  • @BrianM1777
    @BrianM1777 Před 11 měsíci +194

    As a recommendation I would like to see the wood cutting "station" be fully braced so that cutting/chopping performance is not impacted by different placement of wood and stand

    • @ourkeving
      @ourkeving Před 11 měsíci +3

      Pretty much a safety fail. I winced every time.

    • @azurE2g
      @azurE2g Před 11 měsíci +3

      Their not testing cutting performance, it’s for feel and durability.

    • @BrianM1777
      @BrianM1777 Před 11 měsíci +14

      @@azurE2g It still impacts the test result.

    • @Zara-tt7rh
      @Zara-tt7rh Před 4 měsíci +1

      The two pieces of wood are different, one looks like kiln dried the other looks like green treated which is heavier and denser. Any one who’s built anything knows the difference. Maybe I’m wrong who knows.

  • @moriarty1620
    @moriarty1620 Před 11 měsíci +207

    Man these three guys on screen really make my day man... Really dont stop with this amazing content you all have been giving us

  • @Revon-Feuer
    @Revon-Feuer Před 11 měsíci +357

    According to people like*Let's ask shogo" from Japan, a well crafted katana will usually be at minimum 5000$. There's different sizes of katana as well.

    • @adnanhossain7200
      @adnanhossain7200 Před 11 měsíci +13

      i was thinking the same thing.

    • @Revon-Feuer
      @Revon-Feuer Před 11 měsíci +46

      @@adnanhossain7200 Though with shad living in Europe, I would imagine it's difficult to go to Japan and buy a proper katana.

    • @azahel542
      @azahel542 Před 11 měsíci +30

      @@Revon-Feuer True, shipping to Austria from japan must be very expensive.

    • @Revon-Feuer
      @Revon-Feuer Před 11 měsíci +21

      @@azahel542 That, but also it would be quite difficult to do so in the first place. For one the sword is rightfully considered a weapon, second the shops forging and selling them are unlikely to offer such a service.

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 Před 11 měsíci +30

      ​@@azahel542*Australia

  • @stevenqu3
    @stevenqu3 Před 11 měsíci +33

    I think when you're looking at price differences, you really need to consider why one of the swords is more expensive in the first place. The $1000 katana is more expensive because it's made with more labor intensive traditional methods, of which knowledge and experience is also pretty rare.
    Price is sometimes a measure of "prestige" rather than quality.

    • @jefferypointer7383
      @jefferypointer7383 Před 8 měsíci +1

      not really showing quality when they use cheap parts for the handle

    • @sprinkle61
      @sprinkle61 Před 6 měsíci

      The price is for a proper style tip and folding of the metal. Neither of which is of any use when breaking a 2x4 like an axe. There is no reason to ever use a sword in this way, so you are paying for a cooler looking sword, and its up to you not to break it for no reason. A wooden sword would be better for LARPing, and a handgun would be better for fighting, unless you are fighting zombies...

  • @captainscarlett1
    @captainscarlett1 Před 11 měsíci +97

    As a practical student of Japanese martial arts I really like modern stainless steel blades, aluminium and plastic sayas. My wooden sayas I reinforce with shrink-tube because they are a bit delicate. Epoxy to bed the tang into the tsuka gives a nice tight fit. Cling wrap stops it all sticking together. Ancient arts, modern materials.

    • @kevinmorrice
      @kevinmorrice Před 11 měsíci

      hopefully you dont like stainless steel for cutting, because then i know your full of shit

    • @ericbowers5968
      @ericbowers5968 Před 11 měsíci +28

      True.The traditionally made katanas are not necessarily better. They're made in this way to honor and preserve the past as well as avoid weapon classification in Japan. They're more considered works of art.

    • @warwizard1309
      @warwizard1309 Před 11 měsíci

      It's also likely that the "ancient arts" are not that ancient. There's enough evidence to suggest that what's taught as martial arts today is the product of modern times, and at most a couple centuries old.
      Modern warfare made the original martial arts obsolete. Martial arts took a new role in society, more "art" less "martial". There's a reason why most of them are pretty much useless in actual combat, they evolved into performative arts, focused on the spectacle, the cultural value, and less on the efficacy as fighting techniques.

    • @drakecassell1840
      @drakecassell1840 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@warwizard1309of course it's more art and less martial nowadays when there are no wars fought with melee weapons anymore ever since guns became the main item used in battle. But when the Japanese would lose their weapons on the battlefield or have them break they would use judo but it was different than what we see nowadays because they were breaking bones back then fighting for their lives and if I'm not mistaken Jiu-Jitsu is from Japan originally and then it later became Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

    • @warwizard1309
      @warwizard1309 Před 11 měsíci

      @@drakecassell1840 From a Shogo video, which I think we can consider a somewhat reliable source on the matter, when the samurai would lose their main weapon and couldn't retreat, they had their last resort weapon: the katana. Or even something more effective if available nearby: a rock.
      If you really think martial arts as they are taught today are useful in actual combat, you have been watching too many action movies.
      Futhermore, melee is still used in warfare and taught to soldiers. There are close quarter situations where a knife, blunt force, or wrestling can be more effective.

  • @dusso4231
    @dusso4231 Před 11 měsíci +35

    I’ve dealt with 2x4s for a while. The one you used for the $1000 sword was definitely harder. Also if you look at where the 300 cut through the wood the plank was already about as structurally sound as a homemade submarine.

    • @dusso4231
      @dusso4231 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I don’t personally like katanas. Just pointing it out.

    • @soulspeed8498
      @soulspeed8498 Před 11 měsíci

      🤣

    • @jon4715
      @jon4715 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Well said, I thought the exact same thing.

    • @TurkishRepublicanX
      @TurkishRepublicanX Před 7 měsíci

      What's the point of that segment anyway? To prove which sword is a better axe?

    • @gigacream5830
      @gigacream5830 Před 6 měsíci

      @@TurkishRepublicanX basically to see which holds its edge better. Obviously hitting wood would dull the crap out of a sword, but some can stay sharp for a lot longer under these “stress tests”

  • @hernerweisenberg7052
    @hernerweisenberg7052 Před 11 měsíci +60

    I got this real cheap chinese made "katana" that costs 160€, is made from folded stainless (idk why xD). Being the wrong steel, its not really hardened properly, but they tried a differential hardening on it anyway, the very edge is hard enough to hold an edge a little bit. It has a full beefy tang tho, and thats the most important thing. I've absolutely abused the crap out of it, mainly by removing small trees that had to go from my mothers garden. So far i was able to bend it back into shape every time, and once i managed to cut through a ~12cm small tree in one swing ;D

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 Před 11 měsíci +9

      They fold the steal for purely looks. Its not needed but looks cool and more authentic.

    • @Oruta563
      @Oruta563 Před 11 měsíci +7

      You cut through a 12cm thick tree with a single swing ?!

    • @hernerweisenberg7052
      @hernerweisenberg7052 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@Oruta563 I think so, didn't measure it. Maybe it was only 10 or so. This cheap sword is a Dotanuki style tho, little on the short side but ~1250g heavy iirc. Then max power diagonal overhead swing with 100% edge alignment by luck, since i suck at this and i bend the sword on any other try xD

    • @hernerweisenberg7052
      @hernerweisenberg7052 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Oruta563 czcams.com/video/IqNeOlas57k/video.html somthing like this but luck instead of skill^^

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Stainless is a terrible choice for a sword, it's too brittle

  • @whitehorsemilitia
    @whitehorsemilitia Před 11 měsíci +26

    I always chose quality over expensive.
    A Katana is a work of Art, if you're looking for something to display, then go for one that is more expensive but if you're looking for practical use? It's better to go middle of the road. My Katana is around $300, T10 Steel and after 3 years, it still in good condition.

    • @Capsuleer7
      @Capsuleer7 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I use T10 for a lot of my blades as well since I'm on a budget. I find it to just be good steel for the price and purpose.

    • @whitehorsemilitia
      @whitehorsemilitia Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@Capsuleer7 T10 is used is almost every tool you buy, it's also known as Tool Steel because of its industrial use, able to keep its edge and slower rusting, like any steel, requires maintaining but T10 being most common steel on the market in other areas, it's a good middle ground.

    • @skyereave9454
      @skyereave9454 Před 5 měsíci

      Where did you purchase and how often do you use it for cutting? Whats the maintenance like.

    • @whitehorsemilitia
      @whitehorsemilitia Před 5 měsíci

      @@skyereave9454 I purchased from a website called truekatana (not the most trusting site for legitimate swords but always some)
      I don't do much cutting since I have it as a family heirloom as opposed to any practical use, maintenance is basic oiling like 2 times a month.

  • @EgaoKage
    @EgaoKage Před 11 měsíci +54

    Excluding extremes, it really doesn't matter too much what shape a blade is. But the difference between homogeneous spring steel and deferentially tempered folded steel matters a great deal. Homogeneous spring steel blades are very forgiving, without giving up any performance.

    • @scorpionlord9175
      @scorpionlord9175 Před 11 měsíci +4

      and thats the point of many of shads videos. the katana has advantages over longswords and longswords have advantages over the katana, which is why they are EQUAL. one of the things the longsword gas over the katana is the spring steel. thats just fact. he isnt saying the longswords are thus better, he has always said they are equal.

    • @drakecassell1840
      @drakecassell1840 Před 11 měsíci

      Well I'd say katanas being rigid helps them cut better than spring steel swords but not always

    • @scorpionlord9175
      @scorpionlord9175 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @@drakecassell1840 not really. edge alignment and sharpness are key factors. they have shown that their spring steel swords cut just as well as katanas.

    • @drakecassell1840
      @drakecassell1840 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@scorpionlord9175 there has been a good amount of times where they don't want to say the katana cut better like against the trees in the last video, like I said I feel like rigid blades cut better but not always they have even said a blade being rigid helps it in the cut and with edge alignment on the katana but you are right spring steel is a beast of a steel and it can cut just as good

    • @EgaoKage
      @EgaoKage Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@scorpionlord9175 My point was, you can make any style of sword from any material, by any method. The style or title of a sword is irrelevant. The material and method however, are relevant.

  • @olivier.st-amand
    @olivier.st-amand Před 11 měsíci +19

    Keep up the good works guys! Thanks!

  • @Gubbinsmcbumbersnoot
    @Gubbinsmcbumbersnoot Před 11 měsíci +4

    Wow! I haven’t watched this channel in probably 4 or 5 years and I can’t believe how much it’s changed for the better! Shad you’ve really outdone yourself, excellent video and a superb channel.

  • @Daedricfrog1
    @Daedricfrog1 Před 11 měsíci +4

    love it thanks for being so honest

  • @TheOGWiggle
    @TheOGWiggle Před 11 měsíci +5

    Ok the water bottle transition was coooooool. And the review was really well done. Dialogue was solid, great back and forth with useful info, nice flow. Yall did great with this video!

  • @Koushakur
    @Koushakur Před 11 měsíci +17

    13:56 Looks like you're cutting quite different pieces of wood, that along could explain the difference in feel I think. Like a more comically extreme example would be it feels different to chop into balsawood vs oak, that type of difference. Even if they're the same wood the planks were in very different condition by the look of them

  • @jim7217
    @jim7217 Před 11 měsíci

    Great job guys, as always! Thanks for a nice review and understandings of sword construction.

  • @SirStouk
    @SirStouk Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks again for the excellent work, and the entertainment too 😁

  • @barnowl2655
    @barnowl2655 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Always love a good katana review.

  • @misterman710
    @misterman710 Před 11 měsíci

    You guys are great and I appreciate you

  • @drakecassell1840
    @drakecassell1840 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video once again guys keep up the good work

  • @Maehedrose
    @Maehedrose Před 11 měsíci +2

    Good video, guys, and good discussion about the realities of modern metal vs 'traditional' metals.

  • @RauMins
    @RauMins Před 11 měsíci +27

    Seeing Shad first debunk bow myths and now kanana myths and being so thorough with it is very nice to see, I love that you guys are going all the way to debunk these things!
    Keep at it ♥

  • @patrickmoore4209
    @patrickmoore4209 Před 11 měsíci +2

    You guys make cutting with a sword look so easy! And with one arm!! I'm proud of you.

  • @elionzo
    @elionzo Před 11 měsíci +2

    Another AWESOME video ❤ ⚔️

  • @Jack-lo5me
    @Jack-lo5me Před 11 měsíci +19

    Perhaps the reason the cheap Katana cut the wood is because the cheap-cheap one is heavier and ads more momentum.
    And since the cheap one is made of the same metal all the way through, it doesn’t have any “walls” that stop/hold the blade still, forcing the force back into the handle.
    And if you buy something cheap, it’s easy to fix because you don’t feel like you’ve wasted your money when you put electrical tape on the handle to make a new grip.
    That’s why I love cheap stuff; functional and easily fixable.

    • @Sunburst_No
      @Sunburst_No Před 11 měsíci +7

      Fair, but the blade isn't likely much heavier than the expensive blade. Mostly the weight distribution is slightly off.

    • @Nw-zh1uq
      @Nw-zh1uq Před 11 měsíci +3

      They said it in the video. The cheap one was a bit more top heavy which is the weight distribution. It also had a little bit thicker handle both of which help in hard target cutting and spliting. The weight is about the same.

    • @warwizard1309
      @warwizard1309 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Check the video again, the plank was hit right at a weak spot, they could have used anything to hit that spot and the plank would have been broken.

  • @jinxsesame9660
    @jinxsesame9660 Před 11 měsíci +1

    loved this review😍😍

  • @MrPlainsflyer
    @MrPlainsflyer Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great vid boys!

  • @deadschooled
    @deadschooled Před 8 měsíci

    You freaking rock, Shad!

  • @elephantspaintingelephants
    @elephantspaintingelephants Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love the channel

  • @James35142
    @James35142 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Good morning, good to see you upload.

  • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
    @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great video as always guys ,maybe try bundles of twigs bound together rather than a solid chunk of timber to give a different effect than a tatami mat. Maybe take the two blades apart from the handles and inspect the tangs on camera it may elaborate on the vibration issue?

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop Před 11 měsíci +7

    Tod's Workshop just released an affordable Falchion in his Tod Cutler line. A 14th Century Clip Point Falchion, amongst others.

  • @thedmdidit9842
    @thedmdidit9842 Před 11 měsíci +61

    I know you guys know this, the wood you were chopping was not equal. When doing a durability test its important to use the same material. If you slam one sword against Balsa and another against Walnut, the sword hitting the Walnut would go through much more punishment. The wetness/dryness of the wood is important as well in this regard. The 2x4 you hit with the 1k sword looked much wetter, was clearly not the same type of wood, and was in much better shape(less cracks, warps and knots). I do agree in general that the cheaper sword is the better go if you want to functionally use it(for cutting practice like you said). But that is more because if you are going to spend a lot on a sword, you would want it for the beauty of it more so than to abuse it.
    PS. ice block chop is a great way to test, at least where I live, ice is cheaper than wood. If you are able you could even freeze it yourself in coolers in the freezer.

    • @maybehuman4
      @maybehuman4 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Exactly. I just made a comment of my own about this. These tests are too sloppy and uncontrolled. That split piece of wood clearly split along a fault/fracture in the wood, not because of the cut. I recommended a channel called Project Farm here on YT for ideas how they can make these tests more controlled.

    • @khalidgagnon8753
      @khalidgagnon8753 Před 11 měsíci +2

      It gave a general idea.
      Also, the damage would still have occurred with wood. Pine isn't SO different from wood to not cause damage to a sword.
      It will keep it from potentially shattering.
      Finally.... It did agitate the area in the wood with structural damage, but all the same, the different steel structure already made the former sword feel lighter and while more nimble in the cut, weaker in a "chop"
      They even said it might have chopped deeper but it didn't feel like it transfered energy. The warp is also consistent with the forging technique on that katana. Bamboo pins are often used in a katana hilt to hold the blade in place because if the contact force is intense enough they will shatter, and enable the blade to move... hopefully preserving the blade.
      You don't need that for a European sword.
      Likewise the traditional steel blade, even with a warp, cut better than the 300 due to blade retention, a benefit of that forging technique.

    • @maybehuman4
      @maybehuman4 Před 11 měsíci

      @@khalidgagnon8753 You're full of sh!t. It's critical to keep as many things consistent as possible when making a comparison. To make an analogy, they were comparing the speeds of two cars while one car was on a race track, and the other on a dirt road. The comparison is pointless.

    • @BIackstrength
      @BIackstrength Před 11 měsíci +2

      Also, they said in the beginning that the cheaper one is heavier and more top heavy specifically... both of which will improve the cutting power.

    • @andychrist2922
      @andychrist2922 Před 11 měsíci

      Not only is highly illegal in The Shadlands but also prohibitively expensive to buy "blocks of ice" for this METHod 😂

  • @eamonnholland5343
    @eamonnholland5343 Před 11 měsíci +70

    There was a lot of variance in the wood used for the tests. It's quite apparent from the appearance of the wood and how it interacted to the impacts. Anyone that's worked with wood before will see the difference immediately. The board used for the $1000 katana test was much harder and stiffer, which might explain the damage. As there's so much variance in wood, it can be a difficult medium to use for scientific testing. Each sword should have been used on the same boards/woods, to eliminate the variables.

    • @kam1k0t0
      @kam1k0t0 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Also the plank used in 1000$ katana test was wet. That definitely made it harder

    • @kingofspades76
      @kingofspades76 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@kam1k0t0 Nate also clearly struck wet planks with the 300 dollar Katana right at the beginning of that test, I believe it comes out to about the same, those were all just regular old 2x4s

    • @kam1k0t0
      @kam1k0t0 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kingofspades76 oh yeah, you are right. A didn't notice that

    • @eamonnholland5343
      @eamonnholland5343 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kingofspades76 "Regular old 2x4s" have a lot of variance. The board at 11:28 was clearly left outside and rotted some, and/or softer, enabling the sword to cut deeper into it and absorbing more of the impact, resulting in less damage to the sword. The board at 12:04 clearly had a fracture/weakened part already in it, which is why it broke so easily in one swing. The board at 12:50 was clearly much sturdier and harder, and gave less when struck, which explains differences in sword damage.

  • @medievilassassin
    @medievilassassin Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great video guys , even with the $300. Sword you could modify it and wrap the tsuka and such for not much more money.
    One of the best budget swords I have ever used is the Hanwei Raptor and the practical XL

  • @sonnypally6
    @sonnypally6 Před 11 měsíci +4

    I got the "Dragon King - Spring Sakura Katana" for $348 USD from Kult of Athena. I freaking love it! I was debating between it and a nice $1000 differentially hardened Hanwei but ultimately decided to go for the Spring Sakura for one reason that you demonstrate in this video. It is homogenous steel and not differentially hardened. As a katana fanboy, who has studied Iaido/Kendo, I have no problem admitting that differential hardening is inferior to spring steel. Ultimately, I did not want a sword that would take a set, I wanted a sword that would return to true, and for a sub $400 Katana with nice fittings and real ray skin, I could not be happier! There are maybe one or two things that I could nitpick, but it just goes to show you that there really are rather nice quality katanas on the market for under $1000 that are superior products and well worth it!

  • @aidenhawes5367
    @aidenhawes5367 Před 11 měsíci

    Bro your intro title card has been the exact same since I first found your content😂 I love it, keep it forever

  • @Trad.
    @Trad. Před 11 měsíci +1

    Loving the water bottles appearing back effect.

  • @myvoiceyourstory9338
    @myvoiceyourstory9338 Před 11 měsíci

    Top quality show lads

  • @mythiccass3837
    @mythiccass3837 Před 11 měsíci +15

    I suspect that for practical use, the cheaper one would have been preferred during the Sengoku Jidai if it weren't for material & technological constraints of the time.

    • @SetuwoKecik
      @SetuwoKecik Před 11 měsíci +4

      During Edo Period however, they'll picked the most expensive ones obviously, since more expensive katana = better status symbol.

    • @googleandsusansucks
      @googleandsusansucks Před 11 měsíci

      They mostly used spears during the Sengoku Jidai but ok. Didn't they also use the tachi? Did the whole katana craze start with the Edo period when the upper classes could just kill any peasant for any reason? Yea, real hard cutting down unarmored peasants. Japanese culture might look cool, but their medieval times were incredibly brutal and unfair. The west at least had the concept of freedom for the individual.

    • @SetuwoKecik
      @SetuwoKecik Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@googleandsusansucks
      Did you just assume samurais didnt use those swords as sidearms alongside their spears and bows?

  • @bmonteleone48
    @bmonteleone48 Před 11 měsíci

    That flawless transition is 🤌

  • @felx233
    @felx233 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Good video, I wonder which one resists more against the collision with another sword

  • @sharkchaos5160
    @sharkchaos5160 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video.

  • @benena4619
    @benena4619 Před 11 měsíci

    shad really liking katanas in recent vids

  • @procrastinationincarnate6416
    @procrastinationincarnate6416 Před 11 měsíci

    Dang Tyranth, that fur is looking pretty good on you!

  • @Frank_West
    @Frank_West Před 11 měsíci

    Gawd, I love this.

  • @Lou45833
    @Lou45833 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great video,,,What about a video on modern weapons like hand guns

  • @Starless85
    @Starless85 Před 11 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @Amber_the_Floof
    @Amber_the_Floof Před 11 měsíci

    I’ve found a new channel to binge

  • @SwordsMaster7.
    @SwordsMaster7. Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hmm, I wonder exactly where the quality for price cut out limit is for most swords and armor... I'll have to look further into this sometime. Thanks for providing my brain with another random statistics task to do! And thanks for the video, can't wait to finish it!

  • @thenight527
    @thenight527 Před 11 měsíci +8

    Shadiversity, it would be awesome to see a video on chainswords, chainaxes and other 40k weopons and your opinions on them 😊🙏

    • @alex-uw4mm
      @alex-uw4mm Před 11 měsíci

      czcams.com/video/_aGGUH5CP1Y/video.html
      there you go

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin Před 11 měsíci +2

      He's done one on the Chainsword, AGES ago. Though, it would be nice to see the others' opinions on it.

    • @Leo.23232
      @Leo.23232 Před 11 měsíci

      they are really dumb

  • @dschnaible
    @dschnaible Před 11 měsíci

    Nice edit on the reappearing bottle.

  • @TrueStrike
    @TrueStrike Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great to see the new sets in use although I can imagine a new leg coming in to stop the thing propping up the wood from falling over constantly 😂

  • @11OBlitzO11
    @11OBlitzO11 Před 11 měsíci

    Lol the All-Stars shoes with the period costume!

  • @bungeetoons
    @bungeetoons Před 11 měsíci +6

    The blade shock difference could be that when the wood split it couldnt apply the same normal force than when it held up to $1000 one.

  • @jonathanfalls1937
    @jonathanfalls1937 Před 11 měsíci +11

    Love the katana videos but I would love to see a theoretical "best possible katana" with the best possible steel, modern construction methods, etc. Maybe even changing the design of certain elements like making the suba wider so that it could have more utility. Some of these ideas have already been touched on by your previous videos nevertheless I still think this would be an interesting concept.

  • @uhohmemebiggestboy212
    @uhohmemebiggestboy212 Před 11 měsíci

    Really love your shorts, you give me interest then give me a full video to watch about it as well

  • @MythicJedi
    @MythicJedi Před 11 měsíci +1

    Another day, another Shadiversity katana video

  • @anthonylamonica8301
    @anthonylamonica8301 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I am curious, have you guys considered maybe test-cutting on a full beef shank? It'd be a more accurate test because it's _actually_ flesh and bone, which is what blades are ultimately meant to cut, and as a bonus you get a hearty dinner later.

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp Před 11 měsíci +1

      They have done a cut test using pork. I think it was during their fire sword video.

    • @anthonylamonica8301
      @anthonylamonica8301 Před 11 měsíci

      @@DH-xw6jp But it isn't a _beef_ shank, now is it? I prefer steak to bacon, and I'd bet they do too.

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp Před 11 měsíci

      @@anthonylamonica8301 pork is a closer analog to human than beef is, so if you are testing weapons (or surgical tools) pork is what you should use.
      And a sunday pork roast with all the trimmings is divine.

  • @originalamerican9396
    @originalamerican9396 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I have a few from Swords of Northshire. They are semi custom Katanas ranging from budget to expensive. From what I have seen the lower cost katanas are the better sword. The expensive ones will have a better fit and finish but the real difference is the blade. Example you can get the sand iron swords that cost thousands of dollars or you can get a much more durable spring steel blade for a few hundred.

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Its because the cheaper swords are made with Mass produced steel, which is really high quality to start with. Modern steel is just plain outright better than traditional steel, so methods used traditionally to get better blades can actually have the opposite effect on the modern steel.

  • @kristopherstribling5951
    @kristopherstribling5951 Před 11 měsíci

    This is great, thank you. Could you do the same with longswords?

  • @maxbarnes8449
    @maxbarnes8449 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I’d love to see a video where you determine the best quality budget longsword/arming sword. I would really like to to purchase a decent quality European sword but I don’t have the budget to get something crazy expensive. Your video on best sword for modern day self defense would be a great template!

  • @SentinalSlice
    @SentinalSlice Před 11 měsíci

    The items reappearing is trippy. Because I looked away/was looking at the sword when it happened and got confused as to how there was more to cut.

  • @xavierfroidevaux955
    @xavierfroidevaux955 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Nice!

  • @minasmorgoul
    @minasmorgoul Před 11 měsíci +8

    Guys regarding to your wood test. Any chance the wood quality can affect the test? Like the first one seemed kinda weathered and the second one looked brand new and presumably more dried out? and on the next one your sprayed water on it. Any chance the tests would be more trastworthy while on a homogenous piece of wood(as much as humanly possible) like a tree stomp?
    Great video btw!

  • @finnkedinn1573
    @finnkedinn1573 Před 11 měsíci +7

    SUPER IMPORTANT QUESTION!!!!! Is a pizza slicer (the disk blade one) a sword??? It has a hilt, most have a guard, it’s primary use is cutting, and you can’t say it is too short since, it being a circular loosely fastened blade it can rotate technically making the blade infinitely long. I need Shad’s input on this…

    • @Justachildinasink
      @Justachildinasink Před 11 měsíci

      I dont think its a sword bc you cant thrust with it

    • @crose1466
      @crose1466 Před 11 měsíci

      @@JustachildinasinkI believe some swords aren’t meant to be thrusted

    • @Justachildinasink
      @Justachildinasink Před 11 měsíci

      @@crose1466 you're right

  • @Yoroiful
    @Yoroiful Před 11 měsíci +2

    I really appreciate the Mythbusters vibe in this one.

  • @Ratsos12
    @Ratsos12 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The blue one because the racing stripes make it go faster of course.

  • @Souchirouu
    @Souchirouu Před 11 měsíci +6

    We've kinda gotten to the point that we understand steel so well that we can make it in any way we want. We can basically select how rigged or how flexible a piece of steel is and we just make it to whatever specification that we need it for.
    So I guess the only thing left to do is dive deeper into the details of metallurgy and decide on what is the best balance for a sword and it's many variables.
    Personally, I'd take that $300 spring steel katana over the best sword ever crafted by the best sword smith that has ever lived if I actually had to take it to the battlefield.
    I do think that traditionally crafted swords can be extremely beautiful and if I had to actually choose one to buy I'd take the beautiful one. It's just an art piece. Not like you can really do anything if someone steps into your life with a gun. Life isn't an anime. So at best it's a bluff and for that a pretty one would actually be more effective than a blade that is better at killing people.
    Your still going have to defend the level of force/damage you caused. So hurting but not killing someone is generally better in our current society. So in an add way you kinda want the pretty one that isn't the best weapon.

    • @sanjurohanamizuki6181
      @sanjurohanamizuki6181 Před 11 měsíci

      a human being is a very soft target .... so either of these 2 blades would be quite capable of doing far more damage than you think to flesh ... considering that 1000$ blade was pitted against much harder 2x4's , yet still cleanly cut a soft target , well your logic is flawed

    • @Cybetrexs
      @Cybetrexs Před 10 měsíci

      If you know self-defense at all, you would know you *never* shoot to maim. You always enact self-defense with intent to kill. It’s taught in everything from police academies to self defense classes to CWP courses.

  • @FrankJaeger93
    @FrankJaeger93 Před 11 měsíci +1

    To carry on from this video it would be interesting to see a chinese made vs japanese made katana video

  • @pentadeuce1086
    @pentadeuce1086 Před 11 měsíci

    You guys need to get like a railroad tie, or something for the wood durability tests. :D

  • @JNM11787
    @JNM11787 Před 19 dny

    Swords are awesome! Im thinking of getting a propper blade, either eastern or western.
    Thank u guys for doing this.
    Every blade has its strengths and weaknesses. Its like guns and the ammo they use.
    Right tool for the right job!
    "What do u want to do with ur blade?" is the most important question to ask urself before buying.

  • @spideyninja1163
    @spideyninja1163 Před 11 měsíci

    I love how this feels just like a tv cooking product review, but for swords.

  • @NathanWagenet
    @NathanWagenet Před 11 měsíci +2

    You have to notice that the 2x4s which you were cutting with the $300 katana actually had weak points near where you hit (on the underside). It's pretty obvious from the camera's view, and that's what caused the 2x4 to straight up split in half.

  • @GlawiousAldredMarci
    @GlawiousAldredMarci Před 11 měsíci

    Now they are cutting as you are supposed to with a katana, so nice to see that. Did they practice? :3

  • @lasselen9448
    @lasselen9448 Před 11 měsíci +4

    The expensive katana taking more structural damage may come from the fact that it transferred force less efficiently, resulting in stronger vibrations. Assuming both fittings were of the same quality, that would damage it more quickly.

  • @RikuHino
    @RikuHino Před 11 měsíci

    I have a few $50 katana after a resharpening they are actually pretty decent and fun to have a muck around with

  • @Ekseth
    @Ekseth Před 11 měsíci +2

    When I see the super steels used in the knife industry today I wonder what kind of swords we could achieve with the same level of research of development.

  • @stephentomsky9576
    @stephentomsky9576 Před 11 měsíci

    Tyranth looks good with the fur.

  • @robertpatter5509
    @robertpatter5509 Před 11 měsíci +3

    I wonder how these compare to the LK Chen Jian type swords. Such as
    - Flying Phoenix $473
    - Shield Guard Jian $380
    - Song Hand DAO $413
    I included shipping in the price and prices came from KOA.
    Except the Shield Guard Jian. That's the total price from LK Chen factory to the US.

  • @TheYemcl
    @TheYemcl Před 10 měsíci +1

    Love what you guys do. Why didn't you cut the same piece of wood, though? That could have played a huge part in what you were feeling, as well as the wood breaking.

  • @AudraT
    @AudraT Před 11 měsíci +1

    What we haven't learned a lot of is sailing during the medieval period. It's as historical as castles, swords, and armor and I would love to learn all about sailing, especially during medieval times. This would be a whole new section of history Shad could give his historical "lessons" on!

  • @virtue3
    @virtue3 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The pins (Mekugi) from nicer ones are usually made of bamboo. The top one should be at least in the nice katana. The bottom one might be metal or bamboo depending. It is designed that way to be shock absorbing (which you noted as a favorable part of the katana). They will also break but maintain some integrity of the sword (bamboo will). Which is why you were able to still swing it around despite breaking the pin.
    It should and can be replaced. Most basic katana care insists on checking the status of the Mekugi before using them. Especially if the risk of the blade becoming a projectile could harm someone else.
    They were designed to be replaceable and to absorb shock/break that way instead of it shooting into your hands.
    AKA It's a feature, not a bug.

  • @SPI3Cy
    @SPI3Cy Před 10 měsíci

    very cool 👍

  • @AshersAesera
    @AshersAesera Před 11 měsíci

    The reverb flowing back sounds about right for a lighter blade.
    You also need to find a way to use the same piece of wood, even if it break. There can be differences in the wood that could be the cause of the reverb.

  • @darkomen42
    @darkomen42 Před 11 měsíci +28

    Your first 2x4 was considerably weaker. The second 2x4 was clearly much wetter wood and didn't crack like the drier first board did. But obviously a heavier blade is going to do better in a chopping motion against wood. The more expensive sword clearly kept a better edge even after the chopping.

    • @cavalieroutdoors6036
      @cavalieroutdoors6036 Před 11 měsíci +7

      But the more expensive sword is no longer safe to use without being torn down and re-seated. The cheaper one at the abuse and is ready for more. The edge staying sharper doesn't matter a lick if the sword is a few hard strikes away from coming apart.

    • @thedmdidit9842
      @thedmdidit9842 Před 11 měsíci +1

      My thought exactly. Its also important to note that it is about what the wood does to the sword, not the sword to the wood. If you are using a different type of object(or in this case quality of wood) to test against it isn't a great comparison. Forged in Fire does an amazing job at doing legit sword (and other weapon) tests.

    • @danieltilson4053
      @danieltilson4053 Před 11 měsíci

      The cheap sword went through two different 2x4s, and broke both without significant damage.

  • @JavierSanchez-el4pl
    @JavierSanchez-el4pl Před 11 měsíci

    Shad! Gang! Do a video review and possibly a review on the actual weapons made/forged by Random Hands!
    Also…
    What about dragons?!?!

  • @Gojeto346
    @Gojeto346 Před 11 měsíci +2

    You guys should see about doing a test video on a sword from Swords of Northshire, they advertise hand forged custom katanas for under $500, mine feels better than any other katana I’ve ever held but i have about .5% of your experience so it would be cool to see if they live up to their advertising!!

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR Před 9 měsíci

    Kult of Athena has a few of really want I hear good things about many of their items. I'm actually going to be getting a few gifts from them for friends and family

  • @andychrist2922
    @andychrist2922 Před 11 měsíci

    Glad to see Sir Converse of the red boots is here resplendent in said boots and black tracky daks 😂

  • @loboptlu
    @loboptlu Před 11 měsíci

    Nice , now when will they make part 2 with the expensive one?

  • @dominiclapinta8537
    @dominiclapinta8537 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've spent money and have gotten a good stainless steel sword that holds and edge well and is spring tempted and for the same amount of money, have purchased a carbon steel sword and the high carbon steel sword didn't gold an edge as well. It's more about where you buy from. Right now I have a braveheart stainless steel claymore and it's spring tempered and holds a good edge. I have bought the aragorn ranger sword in the past and it was stainless steel and was spring tempered. I tested it out on my safe at the time and that sword is not broken or bent to this day. Even the anduril I bought.

  • @Cribbo
    @Cribbo Před 11 měsíci +3

    So basically, I'm buying for 300 if I ever somehow need a Katana

  • @therakshasan8547
    @therakshasan8547 Před 11 měsíci

    The 2x4 wood used : Dry wood is easier to cut & shear .than wet wood . Also pressure treated is softer than cured oak .

  • @cp1cupcake
    @cp1cupcake Před 11 měsíci

    This reminds me a guy I saw on YT who paints miniatures and has complained about how much people care about custom bases as opposed to painting quality. He painted the same mini identically and put them on ebay with one having a 15-30 minute custom base. That one sold for 2-3 times the one with the more basic one.

  • @jude8943
    @jude8943 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Gotta love modern mono steel!

  • @LJCyrus1
    @LJCyrus1 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm wondering if the 2x4's you were using did not have identical resistance.
    Was the one that looked weathered more resistant to cutting somehow?
    Depending where the lumber was and for how long, it's properties may have changed.

  • @ToxicityAssured
    @ToxicityAssured Před 11 měsíci +3

    I think for ~$300 that Dragon King is.... well... the king. I have the Hana and WarFire and they are very nice for the price. I've heard many others say good things about them also. I have some Citadel and Motohara for comparison, I'm telling you the Dragon King are worth looking at.