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Finally someone reviewed this sword!!! I've been eyeing this sword on Kult of Athens for over a year now! It piqued my interest big time when I first saw it because it's so unique! I really like it! But I never pulled the trigger on buying it because there are only like 4 reviews of it on the website. So I've been really indecisive on whether or not if I should buy it. Every time I browse KOA I always go to this sword and wish there was a good in depth video review of someone holding it, using it, and talking about it's fit and finish and what not. Considering how its more on the relatively budget side for a sword. I worried that it would be a piece of junk wall hanger sword-like object. So I never pulled the trigger. But! I'm not gonna lie, for the price, and a bit of sharpening, this seems like a nice sword!! It held up surprisingly well in the abusive test. I think this sword will be a cool back yard chopper and conversation piece with friends! I think I'm going to buy it next time I have the extra cash to do so!!
Thanks Shadiversity for the great review!!!
Hopefully it’s still in stock so I can buy it on my lunch today
*Morgan Freeman Voice*
“Little did he know… it was not.”
I do like it as well, but from Shadiversity has said it has slight issues with the fit and finish of the handle, which could be easily addressed by a competent smith.
@@terrivel11 It was at this moment he knew, that he FUCKED up.
Imagine being a pool noodle and thinking you're going to have a good time at a pool, but you arrive at the gates of the Shadlands instead.
Nearly as scared as a 2 liter that ends up at Hickok45's range
Or an eggplant at Kentucky's@@DH-xw6jp
almost as scared as a glue jug finding itself at Kentucky ballistics
🤣🤣🤣@@gogogadgetextendosausage9097
"Unlike a katana, which the fuller usually goes all the way up, this one only goes three-thirds of the way"😂
That is correct because on a katana it goes 4/3 of the way up which allows it to cut through time and space. 😁
@@Sgt_SealCluber... He's laughing because three thirds is all the full blade...
@@Sgt_SealCluber😂😂😂 I'm a dumbass I read your comment as 3/4 not 4/3
@klobber17 This comment thread has given me a roller-coaster of emotions. From enjoying Shad's slip, to joy of the thought of a 4/3 fuller (fullest, maybe?), to disappointment that the silly patrol stepped in to stop the silliness, back to joy that the silly patrol is a double agent and a true follower of silly! 😂
@@klobber17 I'm glad I read your comment because for some reason I thought three thirds was three fourths.
I’ve met the owner of Ronin Katana here in Texas and he’s an awesome guy. It seems like he really wants to put decent/acceptable quality swords in as many peoples hands as he can, for as little cost to them as he can. He actually stopped me at a ren fest because he spotted me in a huge crowd of people wearing one of his swords and made it a point to come and talk to me. Great dude!
Cool. Renfest in Texas is nuts. Lucky chance encounter.
Does he make custom swords? I’m asking because I don’t have a custom sword smith anywhere near me
I have the ronin katana arming sword and it’s one of my favorites
That's great to hear! Heard only good things in all reviews.
Idk others but I'd be interested in seeing your guys' sharpening process on the swords when you are prepping them for these kinds of tests.
or maybe even a sharpening tutorial would be really nice
I believe they have done a video on sharpening before, only a couple months ago if I am not mistaken.
they have an old vid thats about how to sharpen swords@@potatochrisp
I think Tyranth is the sword tinkerer of the team, so maybe you can find that on his channel
They shared a video about sharpening with whet stones . I bought the materials and did it myself on two swords and it worked super well. No need to by a clamp set or pallet though, I just bought a long wood board and held it in place. Works great!
If their Two Handed Falchions are this good, then I can't wait for Ronin to start hammering out Tyranth Blades
I so hope that becomes a thing.
What is a tyranth blade?
@@wtfwhereami It is a nickname given to the katana they put a cross guard and pommel on. Tyrenth built it, but hates it, so it is a bit of a teasing name.
I'm from Poland and in our country the word "saber" (PL: Szabla) describes a very specific sword that is deeply rooted in our history (on the internet I even met the term "Polish saber"). When in my country you say saber everyone who has any idea about swords knows what type of sword it is and distinguishes it from Falchion or Scimitar
I noticed the anglo-sphere it is like the Saber toothed tiger, a Saber is any curved spike.
Thank you! I knew I wasn't crazy when everytime I looked at it I thought it looked like a saber.
Yes, everybody from k&k knows about the szablya.
@@akumagouki8668 well, a falchion toothed tiger would feel a bit strange so it makes sense they went with saber instead.
Same here brother. I'm hungarian and we call it Szablya. The pronounciation is pretty much the same.
27:27 "Grasping this nice round knob, right at the end, you know, gives us a lot of control right at the tip." -Shad
Is that a Falchic allusion?
Just to weigh in on the Sabre terminology discussion. It's quite normal for a sword to be categorised based on its hilt. As you have discussed in the past, Shad, the most notable, if not the only notable, difference between a falchion and a messer is the construction of the hilt. With this in mind I think it makes the most sense to differentiate sabres from other European curved sword in the same way: based on the hilt. An example definition might be: "A sabre is a curved, single-edged European sword with a complex or comprehensive guard (such as a knuckle bow) designed for use in one hand". This definition would make it distinct from the definitions of the messer and falchion without over-complicating the definition by considering the period. Its also more important for a sword to be defined by its features rather than it's period. An arming sword is an arming sword whether it is 11th century or 16th century. And in terms of it being a borrowed word from another language; from a linguistic standpoint this isn't particularly noteworthy. English is absolutely full of borrowed words. By its nature English is an amalgam of languages from across the world and has a history of incorporating words directly from other languages even after English solidified itself as a language so I don't see why the period of its adoption should change the definition of the word itslef when we don't change other borrowed words in the same way.
The 2 Handed Falchion, my new favorite medieval Sword.
amazing review on the European 2 handed oversized tanto knife
Honestly, these videos are absolutely amazing. Like this is the content i would love to see on TV shows. Question, what about reviewing forged in fire swords that were made?
I think this would be a great vid, I'd be interested to see this as well
I agree, that would be fun
Yes! Forged in fire reviews would rock!
27:26 This needs to be clipped for FNT. Perry Chan please do your work. “Grasping this nice round knob gives you great control at the tip!” Well said Shad! 🤣
My hope is that this series of videos will inspire other manufacturers to start making similar swords. The world needs more like it.
Hello Shad and Tyranth! I read the reviews on this sword on the Kult of Athena website and they seem to agree with Tyranth regarding the handle. Would you fellas be able to remedy that in your shop, maybe "beef up" the handle wrap to make it "thicker" to address those hotspots and such? Would that be practical?
I used coxcombing & some turk's head knots with leather lace to make a handle for one of my blades. It works quite well, and isn't very difficult.
10:22
My opinion on judging manufacturers and their weapons by how sharp they come stock:
I think that if the manufacturer goes the extra mile to ensure that all of their pieces are shipped with a refined working blade, it shows a certain level of discipline and seriousness about their craft. Sure, it's not necessary and I'd still put the onus on the buyer to tidy things up since it's now their responsibility; but if you _really_ want to sell the concept that you mean business when it comes to your swords and other blades, having a sharpened edge to be put to immediate use or testing is a good message to send because it shows _you know your audience and appreciate their vigor_ . You know they want to use it, they know they want to use it, a whole lot more appreciation will go around if you as a manufacturer take that little extra effort to sharpen every piece that leaves your shop.
Well said.
Is it possible that it's safer to rely on the buyer to sharpen swords to reduce damages during shipping or other legal liabilities? Like if someone took the sword without permission and used it to cut something, the swordmaker is protected if the legal liability is on the buyer who sharpened it.
@@Benw8888well frankly that can go for all kinds of things, I bought a 150 lb crossbow and a 80 lb pistol crossbow on Amazon, bolts included with both boxes. As a bladesmith myself my only worry about shipping is the blade cutting through its packaging😅.
It also depends were the manufacturer is located some places there's laws about selling sharp blades over a certain length
@@angelichero6236 It may be that since swords are iffy legally in Australia they may be sending them less sharp blades as then it can be considered a novelty item and not a weapon. Just a guess though.
Ive had this sword for a couple years now and love it. Nice to see it getting some attention
How was its edge when you got it?
@@sandrosliskemine was pretty good. Honestly I wouldn't worry too much given the price range, and it definitely did not take much work to make into a razor blade.
@@sandrosliske mine was quite sharp, sliced paper easily and cut the first few water bottles no problem. While it wasn't razor sharp i definitely wouldn't call it "blunt" like in the video. Was also easy enough to touch it up. My handle also had no sharp edges or epoxy leaked out as they experienced here.
All in all id say for the price its an excellent buy, while recognizing that at the price there will also be a bit of variability in the fit and finish and factory edge
A razor sharp factory edge might be undesireable if a person wants to practice a bit with it first, especially if novice, without slashing up anyone..
I see a Shad video about the Falchion I instantly click like, doubly so for the two-handed falchion.
Sabre sounds so much more menacing. You got you a little scimi?
Bought an Italian longsword from them ages ago. It's crazy how well-balanced it is at the price point it is at. Great review, as always.
Looks like a scaled down version of Mihawk’s sword from One Piece. Please do a review for this behemoth of a blade.
Was looking for this comment
"Grasping this nice round knob, you know, right at the end gives you a lot of control over the tip"
-Shad 2023
I love that there's so many affordable decent quality swords now. Granted I still don't own one, but that's because lightsabres that you can hit stuff with are like $400-$700 and I'm no where near justifying buying one of those yet!
Nah you can get stunt sabers for 80-150$ that are full contact
I'd love to see Shad's take on using this sword for reverse strikes even if the reverse edge is blunt. Concussion time!
Reminds me of Ruroni Kenshin's reverse-blade katana the main character uses. Kenshin was a legendary assassin in this timeline and had killed countless people during the revolution that Japan went through to transition from the shogunate to modernism and after the revolution was having a crisis of guilt at how many he killed in what he considered an unjust war. So he took up a katana with a reversed blade, the edge being where the spine usually is and the spine where the edge normally is. The idea being his muscle memory of immediately cutting down enemies in combat would be hampered and he'd "merely" strike them with the blunt edge instead as he had sworn to never kill again. Shad actually covered this sword a few years back.
Ooh! It was a much better vibe to watch the cuttings this time without some soulless stock epic music blasting along! Just the swoosh of the blade and the cut, I really dig it!
I gotta say...that cutting test+slowmo montage was ASMR to my ears.
So glad this sword got brought up. I have it myself and mentioned it in the katana-longsword hybrid video. Personally I can highly recommend it and it has served me well as my favorite piece in my collection.
Honestly I always understood the sheathe vs scabbard it depends whether it has a structure to it. Scabbards being used out of firm materials that don’t bend or flex and sheathes being flimsy and flexible materials. Thats always how I looked at it.
Only ever watched a few videos on and off, then took a long break from YT for a while... Gotta say, Tyranth and Nathan are really an asset for your channel
I have a comment on the tapering of the handle. With that kind of taper, the length of the handle can be longer, which in turn allows the pommel to be lighter and serve the same function and allows more leverage with the hand closer to the guard.
I think a chimera weapon like this should go as hard into hilt design as possible. Have a perpendicular bar that covers the knuckles of the top hand, and as the hilt tapers it should become more flat rather than generally thin, so the back hand (pinky) forces edge alignment.
"Grabbing the round knob at the end gives you a lot of control over the tip."
I concur.
I like to think it’s easy to argue that most sabers are curved swords that are typically used on horseback (plus their fencing counterparts)
Which would include the shamshir/kilij, tachi, some chinese dao, and of course the renaissance/colonial sabers
Great cut compilation in this one! Good stuff editor! 👏
Maybe one day we might find historical surviving two handed falchions
The editing of the cutting montage around the 18 minute mark was superb and satisfying.
Hey Shad, I’m always happy to see you post! You’re genuinely an inspiration to me and my days get better seeing your channel grow. I’ve been writing a book series for 9 years and want to know if you have any tips for me. Thank you! Keep it all up I love you guys!
This is about what I've always imagined Rand's Heron Marked Blade looked like in the Wheel of Time books.
I was just going to say "It needs a Heron Mark"
The way the cutting footage was put together in this one was very enjoyable. Keep it up. 👍
"grasping the knob gives you control of the tip... a solid choice" words of wisdom.
These cutting montages with slow mo and the sounds are fantasticcc so good
Nate walks into frame.
"So I was right" had me laughing.
I've wanted this sword for a while now! Very cool to see you guys review it!
There's a company called Veteran Arms whose HQ is in Atlanta, GA, but they have a warehouse about an hour south of me. They sell a lot of Indian made replica muskets, but they also sell a lot of accessories, knives, and swords. They're useable swords, but so inexpensive. A Pompeii Gladius for $50 with a gorgeous scabbard. One of the owners invited me to visit their warehouse one day and I plan on picking up a gladius to save the $$ for shipping. :)
love the cutting test! the pacing of the shots makes it really pleasing to watcht! lover your videos! been here since ages. team shad! (ps: id love to see 2H maces in armor tests.)
Some companies ship it blunt for safety reasons, others so the blade dosent compromise the packaging
"grasping this nice round knob right at the end gives you a lot of control over the tip" THONK
Thankyou shad for the proper pricing
hmmmm i dont think you can judge a sword by the edge you get from the factory, The main reason is British military swords came blunted and was up to the officer to sharpen it how they wanted.
Really enjoyed this review/testing of the specific sword.
videos like these are Why love and will love swords forever more, even till now this review is not only amazing but to know the quality of fair priced sword is that of incredible.
27:27 grasping this nice round knob right at the end gives you a lot of control over the tip 😂😂😂
I agree with shads categorization of saber.
It may be an older word but I associate the term with more modern swords.
Liked the quick shots of back-to-back full speed and slo-mo
I realize it's no cheap venture, but your current project to rehilt a katana blade to make a design similar makes me thing you should try getting a second one of these and rehilting it as well. You could solve a lot of it's problems with your own more refined crossguard, wrap and handle shape. Maybe the shad scimitar could be compared to it later, too. If i ever get one of these, id think id like to have a different hilt, but sharpness aside the blade seems very much workable.
I would love to see you guys use the blades you don’t feel are safe anymore to make something new!
I wonder how Shad would classify a Khopesh in terms of Scimitar/Falchion/Katana, etc.
Or would he go the Schola Gladiatoria route and call it an ax?
I agree. It is important to be specific and correct when describing blades. You could think you're saying one thing, but the person you're talking to may have an image in their head that's completely different.i know I am about ten years late, but thank you for bringing back my interest in European swords and then getting me interested in pole arms. After I got a halberd, I understood why the greatsword is a backup weapon for it. That spear point really is the king of the battlefield and the "crow's beak" just laughs at most armor. I put it in quotations because the back tool is more of a hybrid between a crow's beak and a scythe. You guys are amazing! Thank you for your services, because it really is a service to us that you are doing.
One can say that by adding clay to the edge in tempering, the softer iron spine and the quenching technique, the curve of the katana was put there intentionally. Because it would be easier to omit these things like on other tools like knives
Tyranth: "The fuller doesn't go all the way up. Only about three-thirds."
Perfect! 👍
27:27
"Grasping this nice round knob right at the end, you know, gives you a lot of control over the tip"
-Shad, 2023
Doing a overwrap covering half the pommel & handle. With a better edge with be a interesting retest.
Have you guys ever thought about doing a video on sword sharpening/which blade types are easier or harder to sharpen?
Shad its good to see you in good health. I hope you are well
Aren't two handed falchions called "messer"? I believe the pommel is different in those but this one is pretty damn close to one
On the cutting aspect, the grind of that bevel might be what you're feeling comparing bottles to wood. The convex grind compared to the flat or concave grind of the katanas or the other swords you have and the comparison to an axe is definitely what makes the cuts feel funky
That blade would rock with a complex hilt with side rings and curved quillions and a waisted handle.
But then it would become a two handed Swiss Saber.
BTW is there anywhere were subscribers can sent pictures of our Frankenswords to Shad?
In the slow-mo cutting the poolnoddles sounds like an elephant is knocking at the door of your castle 😄
I always envisioned a sabre to be a sword with a light, single edge, one hand construction made of spring steel and including some kind of enclosed or basket style hilt.
I've been gone for a while.
Glad you managed to have Riker on the channel.
The swiss sabre to me seems the real deal, better than this for cutting even. There should be more replicas of it.
Love the montage on this!
Shad, you have a very charming way to present.
Can you do a video where you rate different cross guards and try to design the theoretically BEST cross guard?
I'm glad and applaud that they both avoided the childish laughing at 27:38 that was a very obvious statement when Shad said, When I grab the Knob. I'll be childish for them. When I grab the Knob...... That's what she said, 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍👍.
There is something zen about watching Shad and Tyranth doing cutting tests.
I noticed that you've been testing curved single edged blades. Are there dual edge curved blades and how useful would they be? I know one thing you say is a bonus is the longsword has two edges so you can easily go from one cut to another.
There are curved double edged blades and they basically don't work any different from straight double edged blades. The difference is that you could get a similar kind of effect as cutting with a forwards curving blade when cutting with the false edge.
27:27 "grasping the nob" "gives you full control over the tip'
Tyranth's opinions on things always seems to boil down to "I don't like/like this better." "Why?" "I just do. It's crap/better. I will now sigh heavily anytime you engage me further on this topic."
What a Chad.
@Shadiversity have you considered collaborating with Ballistic Dummy Labs and commissioning a torso with an arm or two that you could up armor up with cloth or leather to simulate a sword being used in actual use on a human body? It would allow you show exactly what a sword would do to the tissue and bone under armor when struck. Otherwise great video can't wait to see the o-katana converted to an actual handle. Keep up the good work.
The entire Ronin Katana Euro line is solid AF for the money IMO. Got the Italian longsword, super solid and nice blade
Seeing shad find a unorthodox sword he genuinely likes is something nice to see.
Wild how much the profile matches some messers I've seen. Change the hilt construction and that could be a messer. Change it back amd you've got a falchion
I have this sword. It cuts like a champ!
This curved Messer is sick. I'm in love with it since I've seen one at Skallagrim.
Thanks for review, as i have been interested in that sword since seeing it first time on your channel.
On side note - I kind of curius how you would classify one of more famous polish saber types, Karabela (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabela ), in context of your saber definition including additional hand protection.
Whoa... Why is this video so vibrant now?! Is this color correction or a new camera? It's very good to look at!
I would love to see your opinion Shad on the Polish hussar saber
A smaller, more rounded cross guard, or a tsuba, would definitely be more commonly found on more personal, backup weapons, like the katana. It would take an extra bad luck for it to get caught on your clothes or backpack
I could listen to the sounds of cut tests for hours haha... Thinking we need a cut test supercut Christmas album. Mess with the vid speed to pitch the cut sound up and down. "Jingle Bells" would prob be easiest.
I'm really happy you guys have reviewed & tested this sword. Ive considered one for a while. But wasn't sure if it would be worth the investment. Its similar to, but different in the hilt, from a two handed "saber" Lutel made (back when Lutel was a thing). The Lutel had a hilt similar to a kriegsmesser with a side ring instead of a nagel. But as Lutel fell apart the Ronin Katana version was the next choice. Sure its not 100% to any swords we know of. But it is similar to some in art & certainly looks historically plausable.
A high compliment of a sword is balance, but it's most important, is its ability to keel
Cross guards are nice, big hand guards used to lock up and pin down or disarm an opponent. But the more personal swords have smaller ones as these can tangle with your clothes and other articles on you that it could even be used against you
Samurai know the weaknesses of having a hard but brittle edge, and thus far the art of fighting while preserving the edge flourished
What an amazing valve!
Shad, I love the irony that the one word you consistently mispronounced was pedant. Love your work, thanks for all you do, and best wishes
About the not-sharp edges form europe: it is semi-mandated for transport. Blunt objects cost way less to ship than sharp ones.
Speaking of sabres, I would quite like to see a video on later period swords. Obviously the medieval period is Shad's passion, and we aren't going to get a _lot_ of videos about 17th-19th century swords, but it would be interesting to get Shad's opinion of that in the evolution was actually advantageous.
"I'm grasping this nice round knob..." - Shad
You should review the ronin katana longswords, been thinking about getting one as a cheaper for fun sword. Would love your opinion
I don’t know anything about swords, but im putting this comment to say “I love it when sword go woosh”