Why Soda Cans are Shaped Differently in Hawaii

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  • @SalisburySnake
    @SalisburySnake Před rokem +6297

    We were on a US domestic flight recently, and my wife was served a Sprite that tasted diet, despite not being diet. Upon closer examination it was bottled in Great Britain, and their Sprite recipe has sugar and aspartame (no HFCS). The can was also slightly shorter than normal and only 330ml instead of 354.8ml (12oz). I realize this is not very interesting, but when you're stuck on a plane, it doesn't take much to interest you. I studied the can thoroughly before the trash cart came around.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Před rokem +491

      Makes sense, food regulations are much stricter in the EU and GB, so they probably couldn't use some of the artificial sweeteners or not as much sugar as in the American recipe and 330ml is the standard size in the metric world, probably because 12oz converts to such an awkward number.

    • @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
      @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Před rokem +176

      this is not really a thing anymore, but when i was a kid here in mexico, coke will taste diferent from one city to another due to the diference on the water quality on each place.

    • @SalisburySnake
      @SalisburySnake Před rokem +213

      @@FernandoGonzalez-hu3id "Mexican Coke" is pretty well known here in Texas. They use cane sugar instead of corn syrup, and it comes in tall glass bottles. To me it tastes the same, but the bottles are cool.

    • @AWESAM616
      @AWESAM616 Před rokem +142

      Sprite used to taste sweeter in the UK but since the introduction of our high sugar tax Coke cut a lot of the sugar out of all their main products other than full sugar Coca Cola
      I don’t drink Fanta anymore because of it but that’s not necessarily a bad thing

    • @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id
      @FernandoGonzalez-hu3id Před rokem +31

      ​@@SalisburySnake i actually think we switch to corn syrup at some point in the last decade, i remember there being a big thing on the news about the sugar cane industry wanting the goverment to stop this but they did not because of NAFTA.

  • @patriotbarrow
    @patriotbarrow Před rokem +1787

    I love how HAI can make an answer as simple as ”retooling a factory is too expensive” into a 5 minute video.

    • @iaial0
      @iaial0 Před rokem +116

      Retooling THAT factory is too expensive

    • @sproid
      @sproid Před rokem +40

      Thank you. I was looking for the answer in the comments.

    • @Santor-
      @Santor- Před rokem +64

      I don't think that actually is the answer. Rather that since they own the whole Hawaiian market, with no competitors, there is no reason to invest in cost reduction, as they sell all their cans anyway. Not like Pepsi all of a sudden will start buying cans from anyone else, cause there is no one else.

    • @siler7
      @siler7 Před rokem +15

      But! All the hilarious jokes! You have a beer, but you don't have a beer? SO. FUNNY. I CAN'T BREATHE

    • @brokentombot
      @brokentombot Před rokem +7

      It really puts the half in interesting.

  • @kirkwahmmett1666
    @kirkwahmmett1666 Před rokem +692

    I collect vintage and international soda cans and I always thought it was odd that hawaiian cans looked almost exactly the same as some cans from the 80s. Now it makes a lot more sense.

    • @e.moonbound2420
      @e.moonbound2420 Před rokem +11

      Which is the weirdest bevarage that comes in a can? Are you the guy who drinks them?

    • @kirkwahmmett1666
      @kirkwahmmett1666 Před rokem +38

      @@e.moonbound2420 Well any of the old cans I've gotten have already been drunk but I do always get cans if I go to other countries and I do drink those but they are usually Coke cans. Now it didn't come out of a can but I had buffalo wing flavored soda once and I have to say its the weirdest beverage I've had before.

    • @e.moonbound2420
      @e.moonbound2420 Před rokem +26

      @@kirkwahmmett1666 Wing flavor sounds like a war crime

    • @kirkwahmmett1666
      @kirkwahmmett1666 Před rokem +33

      @@e.moonbound2420 It tastes like a war crime

    • @MarcusH...
      @MarcusH... Před rokem +8

      @@kirkwahmmett1666 Can you describe the taste of war crime please?

  • @gayluigi4122
    @gayluigi4122 Před rokem +553

    Hawaii felt like it’s own country when growing up there. The fast food menus are unique, 7 eleven sells actual food there that is good and worth buying, and even my poor public school had hand made meals every day.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Před rokem +28

      Well it was hehe.

    • @sunnylilme
      @sunnylilme Před rokem +34

      It's rough if you're a blond curly haired kid in school.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Před rokem

      @@sunnylilme I heard they dislike whites. So it's true huh?

    • @sunnylilme
      @sunnylilme Před rokem

      @@nunyabiznes33 depends on the area I guess. In Pahoa on the big island... "Wanna scrap haole?" If you cut.someone off in traffic, your race will.come.up. My friends with Italian kids did a lot better. Your stuff gets stolen A LOT if youre white too. They have a point. A lot of asshole folk over there. Starting with Cpt.cook, then missionaries, now millionaires and.karens. We moved back to.mainland in 2020.

    • @nunyabiznes33
      @nunyabiznes33 Před rokem +18

      @@sunnylilme well, good for you I guess. If it wasn't for the strategic location America probably would have let Hawaii and Puerto Rico go.

  • @TrogdorElite6
    @TrogdorElite6 Před rokem +2299

    I used to work for Ball Corp (yes the one that owns the plant)as a Metal R/D Engineering (literally doing the R/D to make cans lighter and launch the new Ball Aluminum Cup) and know all about this, and Sam got it exactly right. The technical term for the "neck" of the Hawaiian can is called a "Quad Neck". It necks the can in 4 large operations making that distinct look from the 70's, versus the modern 211 cans with 202 ends have 14-20 necking operations making a smooth neck.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Před rokem +46

      Speaking of getting it exactly right: ... Simon?

    • @TrogdorElite6
      @TrogdorElite6 Před rokem +32

      @@lonestarr1490 Wow. Look at that F*** up. Sam! Corrected!

    • @Tarkov.
      @Tarkov. Před rokem +8

      I fucking love those cups and wish they were just a little cheaper.

    • @AlanTheBeast100
      @AlanTheBeast100 Před rokem +28

      When I was in high school we didn't call it "necking operations".

    • @sinepanigav4543
      @sinepanigav4543 Před rokem +5

      Pretty cool. Is there a guy at Ball who gets to go on work trips to Hawaii?

  • @AvsJoe
    @AvsJoe Před rokem +2138

    "Okay, so Hops as Interesting isn't real."
    You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Bravo!

    • @dauntingzebra7396
      @dauntingzebra7396 Před rokem +7

      Ik, with their proximity to breweries in Denver (thanks jetlag) I would love to see it happen

    • @PetreckMusic
      @PetreckMusic Před rokem +54

      you raised my *hops* 🤭

    • @thomasreese2816
      @thomasreese2816 Před rokem +10

      Didn't actually raise any hops, since they aren't real

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Před rokem +4

      @@thomasreese2816 How can mirrors be real if our hops aren't real?

    • @baconmcbacon62
      @baconmcbacon62 Před rokem +8

      I wanted to try that beer, too! It really got my hops up about that beverage for them to fall flat.

  • @LPFR52
    @LPFR52 Před rokem +140

    Fun fact about the Ball Corporation, they have an aerospace division which does some cutting edge work. For example they provided the main mirror assembly of the James Webb Space Telescope (you know, like arguably one of the most important parts of a multi billion dollar telescope).

    • @justincarter7954
      @justincarter7954 Před rokem +6

      I mean it probably takes some serious engineering talent to optimize canning that far. I wonder if aerospace just made sense since they already had the talent and then it just bloomed from there

    • @tobascofred
      @tobascofred Před rokem +11

      In the mid-80's I worked for MCI Telecommunications. One piece of test equipment we carried around were Rubidium Standards; essentially little atomic clocks for ultra precise timing requirements. They were manufactured by who? (drum roll...) a division of Ball!!!

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 Před rokem +3

      Until this video I had only known them for their aerospace work. An interesting niche player ("boutique" might be more appropriate) going back to at least the 1960's. Mostly one-off specialized space equipment, vs say a whole constellation of communications satellites.

    • @panzersusmander3728
      @panzersusmander3728 Před 10 měsíci

      They also made the lunar module windows, iirc

  • @strikeforceagent
    @strikeforceagent Před rokem +161

    I live in Hawaii and I learned something new today. I've always wondered why Hawaiian Sun and Aloha Maid cans looked different.

    • @connorbayer4984
      @connorbayer4984 Před rokem

      I would kill a man for flats/crates of the apple iced teas. All of em really.

    • @pezpengy9308
      @pezpengy9308 Před rokem +1

      me too!

    • @thenatespecial
      @thenatespecial Před rokem +1

      i think it's time for you to wake up now. this is a dream.

    • @AbuHajarAlBugatti
      @AbuHajarAlBugatti Před rokem +1

      Is hawaii still like the 90-2000s movies?

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před 7 měsíci

      Meanwhile I imagine Singapore might have the best of both worlds if the cans of drinks it consumes were made in neighbouring Malaysia as it has a significantly lower cost of living/operation while also being near to Singapore

  • @PineappleForFun
    @PineappleForFun Před rokem +2830

    The Engineering Guy video on this topic is the single most educational video ever released on CZcams. I'm not even exaggerating. It's fantastic.

    • @simonair
      @simonair Před rokem +46

      Ludwig loves that guy

    • @baronvonlimbourgh1716
      @baronvonlimbourgh1716 Před rokem +53

      It is pretty old but still the most amazing content on youtube for sure!
      Still one of my favorites.

    • @Tahoza
      @Tahoza Před rokem +15

      It really is a very good video.

    • @MiamiMarkYT
      @MiamiMarkYT Před rokem +13

      I’ve been watching that video like once a year since I started college. It’s an amazing video.

    • @bovanshi6564
      @bovanshi6564 Před rokem +199

      The actual link to The Engineer Guy video czcams.com/video/hUhisi2FBuw/video.html

  • @asdfasdf-iq9wx
    @asdfasdf-iq9wx Před rokem +300

    Fun fact: Ball actually doesn't make Ball jars anymore. They sold off that part of their company years ago and license the Ball name to use on the jars. I think it's Jarden that actually makes them now.

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 Před rokem +8

      Interesting. I recall the jars from my childhood, my grandmother canned everything under the sun.

    • @mharris5047
      @mharris5047 Před rokem +7

      Jarden didn't even have any involvement in Ball jars. Ball sold that division before they morphed into Jarden (which is now part of Newfield-Rubbermaid). I don't know whether Newfield-Rubbermaid owns the Ball name, whether the Ball family still owns it or if the name trademark was sold to whomever they sold the jar division to. I actually went to university with one of the Ball family's daughters but that was well before Jarden came to be.

    • @ybunnygurl
      @ybunnygurl Před rokem +22

      ​@@mharris5047 Newell Rubbermaid still is the maker of Ball/Kerr canning jars. I know I just bought some this fall that had a refund that came from Newell Rubbermaid.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Před rokem

      Kinda like how, with few exceptions (Chicago being one), Donald Trump doesn't literally hire people to build buildings that he can put his name on. Other people build buildings and he just licenses his name to them because they think it will help their business to have his name on it, but he doesn't actually RUN anything there. He just gets a check every month or every year for doing nothing. He's basically the corporate office and they're franchisees.

    • @pamelaroyce5285
      @pamelaroyce5285 Před rokem +2

      Good to know. I once temped for a few weeks in the office of the Ball glass factory in El Monte, California. The employees seemed proud to work for Ball, and of course the jars for preserves are a big part of Americana. Sorry there’s no longer direct involvement.

  • @tomburns5231
    @tomburns5231 Před rokem +74

    These might only be found in Hawaii within the US, but they are found in many other countries and places. Here in Okinawa, Japan, they are somewhat common, for example.

    • @MCDreng
      @MCDreng Před rokem +10

      Yeah I've always thought of this can as "Asian/Japanese can" because a lot of Japanese drinks have it.

    • @lancelott9171
      @lancelott9171 Před rokem

      military?

    • @theelodgeovkeku3467
      @theelodgeovkeku3467 Před rokem +3

      Taiwan too.

    • @rachelcookie321
      @rachelcookie321 Před rokem +1

      Yea, I’ve definitely gotten cans like that from the Asian supermarket before.

    • @ianhorvath5791
      @ianhorvath5791 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@rachelcookie321yeah. All the fruit juice kind of drinks come in these cans

  • @RavenBomb123
    @RavenBomb123 Před rokem +46

    Sometime mid-pandemic, I picked up some food from a local cafe and a soda which had a 206 cap. I live in Alaska, so I can only assume that supply chain issues (plus maybe reduced demand in Hawaii from tourism) resulted in us getting some 206s. We get 202s normally.

  • @1didnteatyourkids
    @1didnteatyourkids Před rokem +396

    I feel like we need a hops as interesting now

  • @kuromad
    @kuromad Před rokem +135

    I've had 206 cans containing imported coconut water (from Thailand I believe). Or at least, that is what I now believe they were. They had the weird neck thing. But they were really much heavier, not just the lid, everything. I found it odd that a non-carbonated drink was in such an overbuilt can.

    • @No-mq5lw
      @No-mq5lw Před rokem +15

      I had a can of UCC coffee also using this can, and it was made of flipping steel. Felt like it could support my weight no problem. Same thing might apply to that coconut water, it might have been steel, not Aluminum.
      There might be a contamination issue with both of these drinks, which is why steel is used but I have no evidence for this. Just a hunch.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před rokem +84

      Non carbonated drinks need to be overbuilt. The pressure from the carbonation actually makes the can much stronger and more rigid.

    • @brunoglopes
      @brunoglopes Před rokem +11

      Probably made of steel instead of aluminum. Those are pretty common in northeastern Brazil.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +11

      @@ieuanhunt552
      Wanna guess why non-carbonated drinks are in the exact same cans as carbonated drinks?
      Because they shoot a bit of liquid nitrogen inside, right before they put the lid on.
      There's a massive difference between something being in a can, and something being canned.
      The later involves basically cooking whatever is inside, while it's in the can. So they can't put any nitrogen in.
      Plus, the can has to be strong to survive the expansion of the food from the heat. It would take a lot of aluminum to do that.

    • @TheDuckofDoom.
      @TheDuckofDoom. Před rokem +2

      It is a denting issue, and steel is cheaper for that design requirement.

  • @1810jeff
    @1810jeff Před rokem +33

    Japan actually makes a lot of cans with that same shape, I remember buying a can of pocari at an import shop and it had the same can shape. It was also noticably thicker and I suspect it was made out of steel but I never tested it so I don't know.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před rokem +16

    Yup, can confirm here in NY that Pepsi dominates. PepsiCo headquarters is in Purchase, Westchester County. There's an iconic vintage Pepsi-Cola sign right on the Long Island City waterfront and the reason why that is because Pepsi-Cola once had a bottling plant in Long Island City and the sign used to be on top of it. The facility has since closed and Pepsi moved its Queens operations to College Point, but the sign has remained and was relocated to Gantry Plaza State Park where it was designated a NYC landmark in 2016. I will say though that the point you have for Brooklyn at 2:31 should be on the neighborhood of Canarsie since that's where their Brooklyn bottling plant actually is.

  • @gregweatherup9596
    @gregweatherup9596 Před rokem +93

    I moved to the mainland many years back, and I sometimes thought I was noticing a minute difference. I figured I was either imagining it or it was just shrinkflation in action.

    • @Squarcialupi
      @Squarcialupi Před rokem +1

      Reminds me of a joke about Gamecube discs -- only good for convincing your friend that their hands mysteriously doubled in size.

  • @jero7733
    @jero7733 Před rokem +496

    As a soda can in Hawaii, I can confirm that I am built different.

  • @pacificostudios
    @pacificostudios Před rokem +25

    Thanks! I lived in Hawai'i for 10 years, and I never noticed anything different about aluminum cans there. Living there definitely made me aware that shipping is priced by weight more than volume, though. Something as basic as canned soup is a fortune on the Islands compared to the Mainland.

  • @mason96575
    @mason96575 Před rokem +20

    Thank you for the size comparison to the EPCOT ball- I wouldn't have understood it otherwise!

  • @daandanx
    @daandanx Před rokem +392

    Truly, the most substantial of subjects being covered. Keep it up.

  • @mjrc123
    @mjrc123 Před rokem +40

    “Canufacturing” excellent 😂

  • @665hp
    @665hp Před rokem +7

    3:48 "In a market as small and remote as Hawaii's, changing all the equipment in the can factory, not to mention the bottling plants to suit the *larger* lid"
    "larger" should be "smaller"

  • @majestyk3337
    @majestyk3337 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Parts of Canada was still making steel soda cans with rivets up the side, up until 1988.

  • @JoseTwitterFan
    @JoseTwitterFan Před rokem +34

    Went to Puerto Rico 20 years ago, where they also used 206es for soft drinks back then before switching to the standard 202 cans.

  • @WackoMcGoose
    @WackoMcGoose Před rokem +48

    I did always wonder why Hawaiian Sun fruit juice cans were shaped that way, now I know. Thanks, HAI! Good luck on your brewing license!

  • @LillikoiSeed
    @LillikoiSeed Před rokem +3

    What I love about our cans, is that you can fit one of those little plastic lids that you get your to go dressings from directly on top of it; fits perfectly. Also keeps it from getting stale or flat.

  • @Fede_uyz
    @Fede_uyz Před 8 měsíci +1

    Fun fact, the 202/206 denomination is just their diameter in mm. Metric is simpler, 3 numbers instead of a whole math equation. And if you want it in larger units just move the . One spot and you got cm (20.2), or 2 places from the 202 to get meters (0.202) or even 6 places to get km (0.00202km)
    And the unit tells how much to move. Centi-meter is one cent of a meter, i ie 100 less, ie 2 ceros, 2 spots.
    A kilometer is a kilo (a thousand) meters, ie 202 / 100 / 1000

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple Před rokem +4

    I've never been 100% sold on your channel, but this is a really fun and fascinating little trivia video! Loved it!

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před rokem +25

    If by "anywhere else in the world" you mean America (as so many Americans often do) then yes, you're correct. If you've been to anyway in Asia though, you'll likely have seen this can shape before. I've been to Vietnam and saw these cans there, and I get beverages from Japan and Taiwan too where these cans are also used. So it's by no means "only used in Hawaii". And what you identify as the Ball Corp Container factory is the Coca-Cola bottling plant near the airport. The Ball Corp factory is 13 miles west on Komohana St in Kapolei (south-west end of Oahu...coincidently 500 yds away from the Coca-Cola Syrup Plant). What you identify as the Coca-Cola Bottling plant is the Pepsi Bottling plant (which is only 2 miles north of the Coca-Cola plant).

  • @insertphrasehere15
    @insertphrasehere15 Před rokem +3

    I suspect that Ball gets to use a lot of their old machinery and spare parts from their old factories elsewhere (before the switch) in Hawaii, so that helps too.

  • @mikesweeney2324
    @mikesweeney2324 Před 10 měsíci +3

    As someone who previously worked in the beer industry and visited Hawaii a few times, thank you for this. I always wondered why. Those 206 cans stack so much better than the 202s.

  • @matthewjumamoy8047
    @matthewjumamoy8047 Před rokem +8

    Love the callout of the Hawaiian Nene. Great birds.

  • @Habreno
    @Habreno Před rokem +4

    This is actually surprising, as I suspected (wrongly) it was due to shipping the cans and the shipment needing more stable stacking, with the larger lids providing that more stable foundation for stacking.

  • @1163562
    @1163562 Před 10 měsíci +2

    My great uncle, who was an engineer, worked for the company contracted by Coors in the 70s. He was on the team that invented the push tab style cans we have now.

  • @GamingRoadkill
    @GamingRoadkill Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thanks for your comparison to the Epcot Golf Ball as it really helped me understand the concept

  • @Hazukashiii
    @Hazukashiii Před rokem +17

    That’s interesting. I was born and raised in Hawaii up until I moved to NJ. And I’ve always thought the “Hawaiian” can design would be the same even on the mainland. I guess I’ve never really noticed the difference lol

    • @Brando56894
      @Brando56894 Před rokem +6

      As someone that grew up in NJ, why the hell would you move from a tropical paradise to the armpit of the northeast?

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před rokem +2

      @@Brando56894 Dunno where he came from but some places in Hawaii are quite shitty. It's not all sunshine and luaus.

    • @StarsRShiney
      @StarsRShiney Před rokem +1

      @@Brando56894 If Hawaii isn't the most expensive place to live in the US, it's definitely in competition with NYC and large California cities. Sometimes you just have to move somewhere cheaper in order to live

  • @jgjg5182
    @jgjg5182 Před rokem +4

    I'm guessing this is probably why Puerto Rican soda cans are also different compared to those in the states as well, except they're probably easier on the aluminum considering that the lids are smaller than those of Hawaii

  • @TechReviewProduction
    @TechReviewProduction Před rokem +14

    I live in Hawaii and I literally have a Made in Hawaii Pepsi can, a Hawaiian Sun and a regular Mountain Dew can on my desk right now... I was wondering why they were different

  • @I_Did_That_46
    @I_Did_That_46 Před rokem +4

    0:54 Me, an American, hoping they would give me a metric conversion....
    ..."Epcot Golf Ball..." Yeah, what the actual F kind of scale is that

    • @DriverEra.
      @DriverEra. Před 4 měsíci

      an american one that i can understand

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před rokem +7

    Okay, allow to explain what the Epcot Golf Ball actually is: It's Spaceship Earth and it's not a golf ball but a GEODESIC SPHERE. And inside this geodesic sphere is a whole omnimover (a special system created by Disney's Imagineers) ride with a time machine experience learning the history of communication as you ascend. Originally the ride wasn't supposed to be inside the sphere completely as an early concept model from 1978 showed it would've had a bigger building attached to it for the ride and only enter the sphere briefly but they made all inside because...why not? That wand next to it in the pic at 0:46 was added for the Millennium Celebration but wasn't removed until 2007...good riddance.

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 Před rokem +9

    2:35
    If i was the CEO of Coca Cola right now, i would be advertising "Proudly Made with Capilano Reservoir Water" here in BC.
    Had no idea bottling plants had to be close to their target destination.
    You can do so much advertising with that bro.
    We here in Vancouver love our water quality, and love our first nations history.
    The advertising oppurtunity would be insane considering they basically dont have to change anything lol

    • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
      @hewhohasnoidentity4377 Před rokem +2

      The syrup that is used in the bottling process contains ingredients engineered to remove any flavoring or mineral taste from locally sourced water. Coca Cola needs to taste the same in NYC, Detroit, Los Angeles and in BC.
      Advertising that it is bottled using local water would be the opposite of the goal.

  • @warriorson7979
    @warriorson7979 Před rokem +10

    In my country up until about 20 years ago, the soda cans also had those rolled ridges at the top, but that was because the cans were made from steel. The moment they switched to aluminium it became smooth.

  • @Patrick2480
    @Patrick2480 Před rokem +1

    Hawaiian BBQ/Poke shops/restaurants that have a Hawaiian theme in So Cal carry those Hawaiian theme sodas.

  • @SethMethCS
    @SethMethCS Před rokem +13

    How long will this last? I imagine the tooling will wear out eventually, and then it will be economical to retrofit to the modern can lid diameter?

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +5

      The companies that buy their cans would probably pay them to use the same size.
      The drink companies have to put the lids on after putting the drink in. That would require them buying all new equipment.

    • @SteelPaladin1997
      @SteelPaladin1997 Před 2 měsíci

      Those parts have likely worn out and been replaced multiple times already. Replacing parts for wear and/or accidental breakage is going to happen a few at a time. That means they have to replace them with the same design, or the new parts will be incompatible with the rest of their process (and the processes of their partner businesses).
      The cost and complexity of redoing a major, interdependent process like this is that you have to do it all at once.

  • @LividImp
    @LividImp Před rokem +18

    I love laying on a Hawaiian beach just enjoying the view of all the cans.

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead Před rokem +2

      I like looking at the buns.🤪

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 Před rokem +2

      @@TamagoHead
      I'm on the low fat, high protein bun diet myself. 😄

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead Před rokem

      @@lordgarion514 👍🤣🤣🤣

  • @gerald7tham
    @gerald7tham Před rokem +1

    Until recently, cans that look similar to the 206s were used in Singapore by the Jia Jia company (selling Asian herbal tea). They've made the switch to "normal" cans recently

  • @Gamepro2112
    @Gamepro2112 Před rokem +1

    I think this is the first time one of your videos that I had actually asked the question to myself before seeing this video. I lived there for 3 years and noticed the difference but didn’t know why

  • @Hapasan808
    @Hapasan808 Před rokem +13

    I live in Hawaii, and I thought it was odd that A&W had a smaller top (202 lid). Now from this video, I can deduce that it probably means it was shipped here from the Mainland.
    Also I did notice that all our Pepsi cans say "Made in Hawaii."

  • @BobaBuwan
    @BobaBuwan Před rokem +22

    Here’s another fun fact about Hawaii vs Mainland things: the McDonald’s Apple pie is still deep fried in Hawaii while it’s now baked in the mainland! (I’m born and raised in Hawaii)

    • @pezpengy9308
      @pezpengy9308 Před rokem

      sacrilege!

    • @michelleb7399
      @michelleb7399 Před rokem +3

      I miss those deep fried pies. Next time I’m in Hawai’i I’ll have to go to McDonalds for one. I wish they still had the cherry pies. Sure they burned my tongue most the time, but they were still sweet, flaky, and delicious.

    • @kgb4187
      @kgb4187 Před rokem +2

      @@michelleb7399 Popeye's Chicken has deep fried apple pies

    • @frf006
      @frf006 Před rokem +2

      @@michelleb7399 you got to get the taro pies if they have while you’re in Hawaii. Infinitely better than apple.

    • @marcusdamberger
      @marcusdamberger Před rokem +1

      I totally forgot they used to be deep fried and could burn your tongue. When did they switch to baked? 20 years ago? P.S. it was 1992, so 30+ years ago.

  • @ryanburnham1932
    @ryanburnham1932 Před 10 měsíci +1

    We had been getting them in Alaska, at least for Coca-cola products, but that was probably as a result of that factory taking up some slack when supply lines were struggling during Covid and Hawaii likely not having their previous demand without tourists but that is all speculation.

  • @reetyul88
    @reetyul88 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey Sam, good job on this!! Even if a few details were a bit off, you clearly put in a lot of effort to understand a complicated topic, and I appreciate you.

  • @TheDarkbluerock
    @TheDarkbluerock Před rokem +18

    One question: Why is Hops as Interesting not a thing?

  • @bkailua1224
    @bkailua1224 Před rokem +1

    yep and my dad was involved in the change from 3 piece welded cans to 2 piece aluminum cans in Hawaii at the Dole Can plant.

  • @ACDBunnie
    @ACDBunnie Před rokem

    Ball also sells aluminum cups that they sell at the grocery store. I find them a good option as a college student who's too lazy or busy to do dishes, but still wants to recycle instead of throwing tons of plastic into the landfill. They're reusable so if you want to do dishes and get more use out of them, you can. But if you just can't be bothered, you can recycle it.

  • @homiedaclown4381
    @homiedaclown4381 Před rokem +8

    Sam, if you ever get into the business, we will expect you to deliver on Hops as Interesting

  • @RHNCG21
    @RHNCG21 Před rokem +3

    4:04 the disclaimer is so funny tho

  • @mauna2004
    @mauna2004 Před rokem

    This explains so much! We have cans with coupons for our state fairs and water park. I always wondered how they got those on there.

  • @nikolainyegaard
    @nikolainyegaard Před rokem +1

    At 3:49, you described how it would not be profitable to switch to the larger lids, when what you meant is that it wouldn’t be profitable to switch to the smaller* lids.

  • @SekayeK
    @SekayeK Před rokem +3

    Chat GPT told me it was for cultural reasons. I gave it this explanation instead and it went: “oh you’re right! I was just speculating before.”
    It’s not coming for our jobs yet folks

    • @jbird4478
      @jbird4478 Před rokem +1

      It also just as confidently says "I was just speculating" even though that isn't true either. It doesn't speculate, and it doesn't know whether anything it says is true or not.

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something Před rokem +3

    Continue with these nice videos with questions every single human has!

  • @xqiuvmah
    @xqiuvmah Před 11 měsíci

    I was a truck driver and used to occasionally pick up some beer from budweiser. I would then drive 48,000 lbs of beer nearly 600 miles to its distribution facility.

  • @Army12Bravo236
    @Army12Bravo236 Před 9 měsíci

    I travel to Hawaii yearly. Always wondered why the cans were different, and today I learned. 🤙

  • @anokata-kd8oc
    @anokata-kd8oc Před rokem +3

    I'm from Germany and even I recognize the "Ball" can brand immediately. They're everywhere.

  • @jordanwood5992
    @jordanwood5992 Před rokem +5

    I'm already looking forward to seeing "hops as interesting" on shelves 😂

  • @pezpengy9308
    @pezpengy9308 Před rokem

    i did not know this... and i drove right past that plant last friday while picking up some perlite for my farm. i thought it was neat that there was a can making plant... i didnt know how neat it was.

  • @ScottMStolz
    @ScottMStolz Před rokem +1

    I vaguely remember when they changed the cans. I remember when I first bought sodas with the new smaller tops, and thought they looked odd. I liked the bigger lids better.

  • @ImAssassinX
    @ImAssassinX Před rokem +3

    This definitely should have been a Wendoiver video. This was WAY more than Half as Interesting.

    • @iamthinking2252_
      @iamthinking2252_ Před rokem +1

      then again, another comment was essentially saying it just boils down to "retooling a factory is expensive"

  • @calum5975
    @calum5975 Před rokem +6

    You sometimes find drinks in asian stores in the UK in these cans. I'm assuming they're actually Hawaiian, I know there's a massive japanese influence so I can see "asian" drinks actually being manufactured in Hawaii.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Před rokem +1

      Same with those coconut beverages u can find, especially in vancouver.
      Gotta love hawaii. Possibly one of the nicest states ever.

    • @korakys
      @korakys Před rokem

      Probably not. Japan has a unique approach when it comes to packaging: the more, the better.

    • @calum5975
      @calum5975 Před rokem

      @@korakys not sure I understand? Japan doesn't produce cans in these dimensions, it's a purely Hawaiian thing. The cans have to be Hawaiian.

    • @korakys
      @korakys Před rokem

      @@calum5975 It was explained in the video: shipping cans long distances is expensive. Making a billion cans in Hawaii just to ship them to Japan to be filled doesn't make sense.
      Much more likely that Japan also has its own old machines and for whatever reason hasn't optimised the design for price efficiency. This is probably because Japan is a bit obsessive about food packaging.

  • @thecactusman17
    @thecactusman17 Před rokem

    Ball's Fairfield plant is just 3 miles from the Anheuser-Busch beer factory in Fairfield which brews, packages and distribute Budweiser and other A-B beers across the west coast. They used to offer factory tours and their canning facility was absolutely incredible to see in person, hundreds of cans rolling off the line every minute non-stop.

    • @jameskirkland3187
      @jameskirkland3187 Před rokem

      And the Jelly Belly factory is a mile away from that.

    • @thecactusman17
      @thecactusman17 Před rokem

      @@jameskirkland3187 they don't really do jars. I mean they probably do, but not on the same scale as the brewers and soft drink manufacturers in the area.

  • @Discordisnotagoodthing
    @Discordisnotagoodthing Před rokem +1

    Thank you for telling me this I’ve been losing sleep over this and now I finally know

  • @Etrancical
    @Etrancical Před rokem +7

    I never knew that soda is packed locally wherever it is bought. But it makes sense cause as you said, why should you have to spend money transporting water instead of just the syrup?

    • @saveddijon
      @saveddijon Před rokem +1

      You don't even transport the syrup. Syrup is just water, sugar and flavorings. You transport the flavorings, and let the local plant do the rest.
      In Canada soda is made with sugar. In the US, sugar is too expensive, so high-fructose corn syrup is used instead. That's why Canadian Coke tastes different than American Coke, even though the core flavoring, made in Atlanta, is identical.

  • @jeffodabear
    @jeffodabear Před rokem +4

    I work as a beverage packager! Thanks for making this video, cans don't get a lot of love!

  • @mike95826
    @mike95826 Před 2 měsíci

    Making the smaller top also means that, like apple and their rounded corners on their phones, the size is patented and selling stuff made to fit that size has to be negotiated with a possibility of having to pay royalties. So, if you wonder why there are "can toppers" made to store left over product such as partial cans of cat food, but don't have the size to fit a soda can to keep the fizz in, that is so that you have to finish the whole can.

  • @disfuncionexe
    @disfuncionexe Před 8 měsíci

    I remember seeing cans with ridges all the way down when I went to maui

  • @Achilles3666
    @Achilles3666 Před rokem +3

    I don't think those cans are exclusive to Hawaii. During my time living in Tokyo, I notice a lot of cans shaped like that in Japanese vending machines.

  • @GregDalin
    @GregDalin Před rokem +3

    being from hawaii, i had to go check my coke zero can and a Kirkland can and wow.. never realized that

  • @voltaire2001
    @voltaire2001 Před rokem

    Went to Honolulu in 1984, was ten years old and I did notice this there and on the plane back from Hawaii to Texas. Also noticed a can from the machine was a dollar there in Honolulu. DAMN!!

  • @tpresto9862
    @tpresto9862 Před 2 měsíci

    Fun fact: The Ball Corporation (through its subsidiary Ball Aerospace) also develops spacecraft for NASA and others. That is, until literally a week ago when Ball sold off its aerospace company to BAE.

  • @tehcubsfan
    @tehcubsfan Před rokem +2

    I think I would actually buy and drink at Hops As Interesting drink honestly. If ya'll made it, i'd support it.

  • @Ryan-eh7be
    @Ryan-eh7be Před rokem +3

    Hey I was just in Hawaii in December and I noticed the same things with the canned coffee. And Fun fact, the cans are also a lot heavier and thicker, you know how easy it is to crush a soda can into itself with one hand regularly? Well not in hawaii, I have no idea why but their cans are so thick that you need both hands to wrap around the can to even make a dent in it, me and my friends were all fascinated by it, it was so cool!

    • @TheDuckofDoom.
      @TheDuckofDoom. Před rokem

      Coffee is not carbonated soda....

    • @Ryan-eh7be
      @Ryan-eh7be Před rokem

      @@TheDuckofDoom. it’s in the same type of can. The one manufacturer does all cans on the islands

  • @KevinSmith-vr3mg
    @KevinSmith-vr3mg Před rokem

    We have a brewery in Nebraska that uses the weird 3 tier side thingy but idk if they are the same big lids.

  • @nashleysk8er
    @nashleysk8er Před rokem

    Crazy. I just happen to be on holiday in Maui and noticed these cans and wondered why? Good timing HAI!

  • @CuriouslyObscureChannel
    @CuriouslyObscureChannel Před rokem +5

    So next time you're enjoying a refreshing drink in Hawaii, take a moment to appreciate the unique design of the can!

  • @deliciouschicken
    @deliciouschicken Před rokem +3

    Hey Sam! Quick question, how do you apply for a copyright on a brand name? Asking for a friend of course.

  • @prof.ballabypikkalbhattham4507

    The question I've always had, and always wanted to research, but every time I was on vacation and would think to look this up I would get distracted by something like a stunning landscape or the main course of the meal would come out.

  • @ShamWerks
    @ShamWerks Před rokem +1

    mistake @ 3:47 : "...to suit the larger lid...", it's to suit the SMALLER lid. Though the cc subtitles show the correct version. 😉

  • @nomore-constipation
    @nomore-constipation Před rokem +7

    Enjoying the content so I can tell my spouse about it and she gives me the look of "why do I care"
    Which is where I tell her, now you have a little bit of trivia to talk about when you're sitting there with awkward silence

    • @clvrswine
      @clvrswine Před rokem

      Please learn how to punctuate. Enjoy that content.

  • @SystemSmort
    @SystemSmort Před rokem +3

    what can a can do that another can cannot? 🤔

  • @JeroenJoosten
    @JeroenJoosten Před rokem

    I've lived in Hawaii for about 15 years now, never noticed this. Going to have to keep an eye out next time I'm in the store.

  • @justinmayfield6579
    @justinmayfield6579 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Finally! One of those tidbit channels with actual good script writing 👏👏👏

  • @christopherr8441
    @christopherr8441 Před rokem +3

    I went to Hawaii on vacation recently and I noticed this bit didn't think too much about it. When I was there I bought a few canned drinks like Thai Tea with boba and plain old Coke. The can's feel very different. Another thing to know is that aside from the size being different the shape of the opening is different. Thank you for informing me on this topic. I now know *why* the cans are different

  • @isaaclikins5383
    @isaaclikins5383 Před rokem +5

    In this video you implied that the ball corporation makes the glass jars, but that product line was given to a subsidiary that spun off into its own company in the 90's, so technically the ball corporation does not make glass jars. Besides that it was a great video!

  • @andrewh.8403
    @andrewh.8403 Před 8 měsíci

    This makes me wonder what model number the Australian 375ml (which I -think- have nearly disappeared) and the 330 ones (same great price - less new product).

  • @dabluox
    @dabluox Před 10 měsíci

    I worked the Hawaii Can Plant in the early 80’s and was there when the industry went from double neck to triple neck cans. Shortly thereafter the industry went to quad neck cans. As said in the video solely to save money. At that time the company was owned by “Reynolds Aluminum”. Who pioneered the all aluminum can. Reynolds eventually sold all of their can plants and lid plants I think to Ball. Crown Cork and seal also makes aluminum cans. The neck on the can that is made today is a spun neck and requires different tooling. As stated to re-tool to make the spun neck is costly and not worth the cost in the small market in Hawaii. We used to close down production about 2-3 times a year. A core crew would then perform needed maintenance and upgrades. But this was primarily because the plant was making more cans than the local bottlers could use. Did you know Reynolds developed the “Hot Pack” system so juices can be put in aluminum can? This was because of Hawaiian Sun wanted to get away from steel to aluminum. The process was then adapted to other bottlers such as V-8. 😊

  • @FacterinoCommenterino
    @FacterinoCommenterino Před rokem +12

    Today's fact: The world's tallest bridge is the Millau Viaduct in France, which stands at a height of over 1,000 feet, is supported by beams and is suspended by cables.

    • @korakys
      @korakys Před rokem

      Measuring a French bridge in feet just feels wrong, lol.

  • @sandervdbrink84
    @sandervdbrink84 Před rokem +3

    So you are able to compare it with some oversized golf ball, but can't mention the size in metric, like almost the whole world uses?

  • @paulyiustravelogue
    @paulyiustravelogue Před rokem

    I laughed out loud and almost choked on my coffee when “Hops As Interesting” popped up… geez… you almost killed me, Sam 😂

  • @kylefrancis6451
    @kylefrancis6451 Před rokem

    I’ve lived here for almost a decade now and always wondered why this was. Thank you so much!

  • @oggilein1
    @oggilein1 Před rokem +21

    If by "anywhere else in the world" you mean america (as so many amercans often do) then yes you're correct
    If you've been to anyway in Asia though you'll likely have seen this can shape before. Ive seen it used on beverages from japan, vietnam and taiwan numerous times so its by no means "only used in hawaii"