"I WAS RAGING!" 😡 Ally McCoist Is FURIOUS On Behalf Of Newcastle Fans After VAR Heartbreak vs PSG! ❌
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- PSG drew 1-1 with Newcastle United last night in the Champions League. talkSPORT's Ally McCoist and Alan Brazil have their say!
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I had hoped that this wouldn't happen to the PL.
Over the last few years, NRL fans in Australia have been leaving the sport because video refs have ruined the game. It's gone so soft.
Everything that you're saying about it is completely true and its so sad.
Everything is so soft!!
Handball rule is the problem. Every handball penalty seems harsh these days. You can ping a ball against a players hand from 4 yards away and it be given. Ruins a game of football penalties being given for that.
Agreed. Players will start kicking it at the defender playing for a penalty, if they aren’t already
Here is the problem. There was 2 identical handballs after the ball bounced of the players body onto his arm at high speed. VAR looked at both and gave one? that is just mad. It was either 2 pens or no pens yet VAR went for an option that made no logical scense.
The first time 🕰️
They were both pens but the ref was looking too obvious with the favoritism. I went into that game wanting Newcastle to win as a EPL fan but the ref was being too bias i started hoping PSG draw at least
@@virtualcity721 bias??? seriously! did you see the amout of fouls they committed with out any bookinging in the first half. and were did 8 min extra time come from? yes bias towards PSG.
Someone made money...
@virtualcity721 I respect anyone's opinion, but do explain how skinar(PSG's) centre back had his hands on the ball, preventing Isak from making it 2-0 and the ref didn't give us that big decision? I disagree with your assessment, all 3 weren't pens, and we had a lot of free kicks given against us too.
It seems literally every week we are seeing a VAR related controversy. It is blatantly obvious that the entire system needs a major review and revamp.
It is almost becoming a joke now.
VAR was never going to eliminate human error and subjectivity.
Do you remember what it was like before VAR? It was obscene how much teams cheated and how many blatant mistakes there was. RM won the CL 3 years in a row with one questionable win after another. Hell in one final Ramos deliberately elbowed a goalie in the face causing a concussion. The biggest game there is and that's how bad it was.
Cheating has diminished significantly and so has offside goals. One mistake in England doesn't change that. The ball on hand is obviously a rule they need to look at. It's not VAR's fault, it's the rule that has to be changed.
they need a revamp of the refs... the refs are shite
Respect the ref decision and move on, thats what english media said right? So Sssshhhushhhhh
Hypocrisy hypocrisy hypocrisy
What annoys me is that the same pundits calmly agreed that Saliba's handball against Chelsea was a penalty. What is the difference between this case and Saliba's case?
Maybe in the Saliba case it was goal bound?
Facts. Until these so called experts and pundits call out blatant incompetence and inconsistencies, this will never change. Saliba's incident is slightly different, but the principal is the same. Where was the same energy for that? Makes me laugh hearing the hypocrisy sometimes.
@alansmith4655 it was going wide buddy! Did Ally think the goal against Arsenal was a disgrace???? Double standards boys!!
@@SC..28 Buddy, getting pretty obviously now Arsenal's victim mentality is neither winning it leagues nor friends. Calm down. You're not that important for the whole football league to be against you 😂
@@lifetreeventures8767 Funny. It's not about whether it's Arsenal, Newcastle or any other team. This is about football in general. I look forward to your team getting some injustice at the expense of incompetent referees, and see if you have the same energy then.
Love to see Alan Brazil have a go at VAR, constantly calling people clowns..
love to see him go on a diet first
@@KugannListen on the radio, problem solved.
no.@@williamsmith9315
I can never understand why people keep saying it's 'VAR', I just don't get how you are blaming a system instead of the people miss using it, to such an extent that people even say they want it out as if the system is making the decisions, just ludicrous.
VAR= Video Assistant Referee. So, people are the ones making the bad decision(s)
Absolutely spot on Ally - DELIBERATE action wiith the arm!! When the ball is struck from such close range - unless the arm is outstretched in an unnatural manner - when the defender has no time to retract his arm away from the flight of the ball, then that is in no way a deliberate foul. Football HAS to get back to this simple definition of what constitutes a foul with handball.
VAR lays bare the inadequecies of match officials, whether they are imcompetent or biased. It leaves them with no excuse and that is why i think we should keep VAR because it is the best evidence there is to bring about change in the way match officials are appointed and operate.
The match officials don't make the rules, they just enforce them.
The on field official got the call right. It was the VAR who put him in the spot of overturning the call.
These pundits are beyond a joke! Why not furious on behalf of Arsenal after VAR robbed them against Newcastle lol. Intentional or not handball is handball, suck it up and Respect the decision haha
Exactly!! Arsenal are told to get on with it, double standards is unreal
They even get a proper explanation why it’s a penalty and that these are the rules in UEFA. The fact that the pundits just glaze over it is a joke. Rules are rules. The ref followed the letter of the law and got it right. End of story
That penalty 😂😂😂
VAR not just disrupting the game flow-pace-intensity but now its cheating the outcome - bin it dont make it more embedded. Referees called across to VAR having made a good decision now seem to be under pressure to change their minds... its killing the game.
Sam Matterface is wrong, specific guidance was issued by Uefa stating it should not be given, the example they gave was a carbon copy of what happened last night, I would 'luv it' if the ref or VAR guy had a go at explaining their 'thought ' process.
While rival fans laugh when a team they don't like gets a bad var decision NOTHING will change.
All fans need to stick together on this. If fan groups could get together and organise protests maybe those in charge of the game will take notice.
The pundits that went against managers and players few days ago on VAR decisions are back to criticize refs and VAR. Hypocrites
Where’s this outrage coming from . Is it because it’s their beloved clubs . Get on with it !!
Brilliant decision !!...Geordie Garbage...😆😂😂😃
Not the brightest sparks you pair 🤡🤡
Ally McCoist used to play for Newcastle's arch local rivals Sunderland, so Newcastle is certainly NOT his team.
When this group was drawn everyone thought Dortmund were the team to 'get at'...turns out they are the best in the group. Hope they skewer PSG...
As a Newcastle fan we have had some dubious VAR decisions go for us, Wolves penalty in particular, as a fan I would rather we did n't get those decisions and VAR performed at a decent level, but after last night in Paris I am now in the GET RID OF VAR camp. VAR works in great in rugby, how the football VAR is soooo rubbish is beyond me, get a few ex footballers to do it, at least they know the game, the current VAR officials are woefully inadequate on the whole.
The TMO has ruined rugby. Just look at the world Cup quarter final between SA and France.
Eddie Howe and Newcastle are not like referees and VAR in England to give you a brake. It sucks now that you can't kick, fouled, and given undeserved goals.
You got beat, grow up. You had it explained to you in fine detail and still all you do is cry. Perfectly fine goal.
@@philscott3759 Just like this goal was explained as well. New rule was never implemented by UEFA hence why the penalty stands. The better team deserved a point end of.
How are the two situations comparable..? The newcastle arsenal goal had 3 uncertain parts to it, none of which were conclusive.. the ball wasn't definitely out, the foul wasn't a foul (gabriel stooped before contact - bad defending, then chose to flop - stop watching it in slow motion and watch the action of his body. It's HIS fault), and gordon wasnt definitely offside.. the ball didn't travel forwards..
The penalty at psg is one action over a split second. The rules state its not a pen. Grow up
@@KiePatty91 3 uncertain parts and you all classified them as not fouls. Make up your mind. Stop listening to the biased pundits like shearer and the other clowns.
@@user-tj1bw7xp2r ...? What? 3 uncertain parts, yes. None of them were a dead cert reason to disallow.
The problem isnt VAR, its the use and abuse of it to control the outcome of matches. UEFA clearly want PSG to qualify, just like they wanted Italy to qualify last week. The game is fixed, with Qatar money dominating.
well said and agreed
All this outrage about VAR is just getting too much. THE REF went to look at the screen and gave the pen HIMSELF. Besides, the ball bouncing off body parts to the arm is normally given as pen in europe.
Do you actually believe handball pens and bad decisions didn't exist before VAR? lol. VAR has at least made offside decisions almost infallible. It used to be that you'd get half a dozen blatantly wrong offside calls every game. As for fouls, reds and penalties, they will ALWAYS be subjective.@@sirwinstonchurchill2052
@@sirwinstonchurchill2052 What comes around, goes around! Cheer up! Gunner
Yeah but you weren't robbed. The goal was fine and you had an explanation after the most thorough var check I've ever seen and still whined.@@tomgolab3958
I preferred talk sport, you guys get straight to the point, NYC
Ally. Nooo darts is not a sport, if you can play something in a big living room, in doors, it’s not a sport!
What about table tennis
@@barryetheridge6639 Hi Barry, very good point, I’m not totally right, but in the spirit of “sport” I think I’m correct!
It's not a sport if you don't break a sweat. It's a parlour game.
They (Uefa) admitted it was a mistake but nothing will happen. Are they gonna give us the 3 points? NO. It's like punching someone in the face and just say sorry and move on! It's a total insult!
Did he rage on behalf of Arsenal! 😛😝🤪
Of course not! They never do
Not needed. You had an explanation after the most thorough var check I've ever seen.
Stop crying and deal with it. You weren’t raging when Joelington pushed Gabby in the back. It’s going to happen to everyone,
Technically its not VAR fault ...the ref needs to grow a pair and stick by his decision..
I find it quite funny that no pundit considering they are supposed to be neutral has even mentioned the foul by gordon on the psg player 🤣 that was a poor decision not to give a pen imo I mean re the handball rule I am sick and tired of listening to these twerps in the english media who say that a pen would not of been given in the premier league for a similar handball incident🤔 newsflash it was I refer people to watch luton vs wolves earlier on in the season🤔 to clarify the rules re handball are so subjective then they do have a right to give a pen for any handball thats basically what howard webb told us in his explanation of the one luton got given against wolves which btw I didnt hear as much noise about at the time either🤣 I mean I dont think it was a pen last night or the luton one against wolves however the rules re handball are complicated because its interpetation🤔 but newcastle fans need to stop crying about one bad var call and get on with it anyway they have had enough of them go in thier favour this season really🤣 and no I dont support arsenal btw newcastle fans thought var was the best thing since sliced bread after that goal they scored against arsenal tho I think they have changed thier tune now it aint so nice when it goes against you so much is it people🤣
Do you think they'd act like this if it was against arsenal? Nope
You guys should be consistent. It was OK to criticize Arteta about dodgy refereeing but this time it's ok to criticize??
Arteta was criticised for his infantile behaviour.
Is the big fella called Arnold Clark by any chance? Never heard of him before.
Causing football to go soft, Players are terrified going into challenges with their arms behind there backs ruining their balance in case they give away a penalty, frightened to tackle and tap another players shin or ankles, they are making football a non contact sport. This is not the game I have loved for 57 years.
How much have people spent to go to psg
It used to be the case that there was "ball to hand" and "hand to ball" (more specifically, the player has deliberately moved their hand to intercept the ball). The former would not be a penalty, the latter would. What happened to that?
What happened to Newcastle last night should never be a penalty.
UEFA rules actually says can’t be given if comes off chest first for example😊
They should just accept the refrees decision and move on!! Its a Pen for me
Well said, Ally. DELIBERATE only should be penalised
I went to nufc v chelsea last week,it cost me600 smackers to watch us play with no discipline,im gutted.😮
by the way great commentary last night Ali
All these people praising VAR in New v Ars game are now against VAR.😂😂😂
IMHO, the ref, up to that point was the MOM.
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Conspiracy theory...-
This game was about Qatar v Saudi Arabia and was always going to be contentious...
Thoughts guys..!
If you're a Geordie and you're looking for somewhere to stay in London, Arsenal fans are letting you stay rent-free in their heads.
Football karma coming to balance the universe.
Question is would Howe have taken a draw against Arsenal and a win against PSG?
So,Arsenal fans heads accept Universal Credit applicants from Geordieland? Good for you guys!😂
We're too busy topping the league and champs league group to do so, unfortunately.
@@AlReetMaytehaha look at your group bragging about topping it a championship side would top that group.
Wait until you come up against a actual team, I can’t wait to see them Arsenal tears again and Arteta losing his Lego head AGAIN
@@newt6793seems a lil shil like you cant go a second without talking about arsenal, 1 win in your last lol.
Know your place!
Fans will have to stop going to games for them to get rid of var
It was not a penalty until VAR asked him to look again. why would they ask him to look at it again? Too many refs change their decision because they are asked to look again. VAR to blame.
Happened to spurs in the final against Liverpool… still causing uproar now. Joke! Scrap it all apart from offside and goal line tech
This is football...a world game, and yet its rules are interpreted differently across Europe.
This cannot be right and nor should it be tollerated...end of.
Ref. Sam Materface comments ... if that was the case, why wasn't the Miley handball given?
My theory is that Miley was trying to move his arm away from the ball, whereas Tino's elbow moved towards the ball (even though it was a natural movement when someone is running) 🤷♂
Respect the ref and accept his decision and move on...isn't that what you always say?
Hahah bang on
Only when it's against arsenal apparently
Bad Lion! Bad bad bad Lion!
Sorry Geordies but Karma is sweet.( Yep the Gordon goal...)
VAR should be used for offsides only.
Newcastle stole 3 points from arsenal game. 😂 Celebrated like they are champions. Karma is a
Arteta in hes room singing, burnaboy e don cast las las, na everybody go chop breakfast😂😂😂
😂
Shayooo😂
If the Referee had a clear view of the incident and VAR told him to take a look he should have told VAR to take a hike. Had the ball hit the PSG players chest it would have had the same outcome - the ball dropped immediately to the ground.
Agree with Alan. VAR has ruined the game. Can't celebrate a goal. Used as a tool to corrupt the results. All a big fix not watching anymore. UEFA did their best to keep Mbappe in CL, just like F1 rigged it for Verstappen. Where can we watch genuine sports now?
WWF Saturday mornings is as close as you get these days
Can it be taken to court? Seriously?
What happened to - ball to hand?....
Var having problems outside of england. What a surprise. Up until this week all the experts were saying its a problem just with pgmol and the rest of Europe was brilliant. Pgmol was forever said to be not fit for purpose. The level of knowledge across football is the problem. Everybody is so insular.
Look to the link between uefa and psg
It’s horrible for Newcastle but why can’t people understand that the handball rule in Europe is different - any contact with the hand is a handball outside of England!
After the Fulham v Wolves fiasco on Monday and this VAR incident last night, I would like to see the end of VAR. I think the lack of common sense in its application is mind boggling and it is ruining the game. Now every weekend we are talking about it. It's not a matter of if there is going to be a controversy, it's a matter of which team will be the victim.
Hes actually incorrect matterface. Its in uefa rules i have the screen shot of the rules. But lets move on
Handball all day
To be fair PSG was supposed to have a pen earlier in the game when Hakimi got pushed down in the box. So personally it was a makeup call. 🤷🏽♂️ it sucked it had to happen to Newcastle in the 98th min
Var needs scraped it was meant for clear nd clearly struggling to get easy decisions right.
That was a clear 👌 penalty 👏 😊
Corruption pure and simple, it was the officials last chance to gift PSG a goal 💶💶💶💶
bro psg were all over them lmao how can you say the ref had to help them. psg shouldve been up 4-0. use your little brain
The VAR official has been stood down by UEFA from officiating his next game, in other words he’s being punished for a serious error.
"I was laughing!"
Let me guess ally …. You’ve always said it … offair of course
So a serious tactic to win Champions League games for any team would be to not aim your shots at the goal (like football is supposed to be played)...No, instead just aim your shots and passes at the other teams arms and just shout "Penalty" and "foul" every 2 fkn minutes. Wow what an honorable way to win matches.
This is one more reason for everyone to start following non league.
No var , better banter, no egos, no silly costs.
Up the Ravens ( Coalville FC)
well the referee stole victory from Chelsea on the weekend - what goes around comes around!!! STOP WHINING!!!
Thats a penalty.......no the two hands on arsenals Gabriel was not a foul...lol....Newcatsle have a bit of that from VAR
Wow, you Arsenal fans never give up. The difference is in the Arsenal vs Newcastle game. There wasn't enough video footage to show a definitive decision to overturn the Referee, ball might have gone out of play, no great camera angle. Joelinton might have pushed Gabriel but no definitive angle and Referee might have had better view than camera angle. Gordon might have been offside but again no great camera angle. Even some pundits like Neville and Carragher think it was a goal. Now Bruno should have been sent off and VAR was wrong on that.
Against PSG though, the Ref didn't think it was a Pen, VAR intervened and overruled an actual rule which says it it comes off body part then it shouldn't be counted. Not only that but no pundit thinks it was a penalty. Nobody.
I'm not crying on all PSG fans tweets though about how they got that decision. Honestly mate, I'm embarrassed for all the Arsenal fans who are still crying about it.
What do PSG and Ars-nil have in common? Neither of you could beat the toon. Keep crying pumpkin
The most unintelligent comment on the Internet today! Well done Arsenal. Never disappoints 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Let's not blindly comment and support VAR when it works for our teams...the unfair decisions come arround and yes ARSENAL were hard done and unfairly treated on that occasion and we were told to move on.. Newcastle should do the same and stop complaining lol
God is a Gunner...this proves it !! 😆😂😂😀
Look at the difference when it isnt arsenal 😂😂😂 .. my gosh
The bigger robbery was 8 minutes - WHERE?
What about the 2 penalties before that one 🤔. Why are you talking about those ones
Its not VAR at all its the VAR official's there the ones that are calling things so often wrong especially in the PL. VAR is not going away at all however i do agree with Ally there is no more need for extra input around free kicks and corners etc
didn't see this furious energy for the ARS Newcastle bullshit var decisions oh but when it happens to newcastle everyones up in arms. Major hypocrites
Hypocrisy from talksport once again, one day you wanna come for managers questioning VAR and decisions then the next you are doing the same thing your coming at managers for, if this was against Man U or Arsenal youd be saying get on with it
Welcome to our (Mcr UTD) world ... great isn't it?... Difference is that when it happens to us, nobody at talk sport even mentions it (let alone allows themselves to 'rage at' unfair decisions. ) So rage on McCoist... enjoy
It's amazing how media personnel like this use the same verbiage, or worse, that they chastise professionals in the sport for using.
Where was this rage for Arsenal?
Before VAR I watched every game I could. I'm a football nut who now doesn't watch much football with VAR in it. Its destroyed the game and fans need to boycott
I don’t know what he’s talking about that would be given in Spain. I live in Spain and watch Madrid every week, that wouldn’t have been given 🤦♂️
I can’t complain at the final score, 1-1 was fair. But the nature of the result leaves a very sour taste.
Where was this rage vs arsenal😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not needed. You had an explanation after the most thorough var check I've ever seen.
@@philscott3759you mean inconclusive 😊
The fact it hits his chest onto "hand" should by the rules mean no pen? surely? isn't that a thing? why are VAR even referring him? and why cant he see the chest hit? Straight from PSG foot to "hand" would have been harsh but IMO a pen. it wasnt even that. jesus. Are the UEFA rules different?
You yourself are admitting he handled it at some point in the phase of play. Therefore it's handball.
Not in the land that invented the game. It will change, don't worry.@@Jay-Jay_007
I do not think you can blame VAR more so the subjectivity of football rules than with VAR itself. Christina Unkel, a soccer rules expert, highlights that contentious calls usually involve grey areas where facts can support either side. The rules, especially for handball, are open to interpretation. For example, the Premier League's interpretation focuses on a player's 'expected' arm position and reaction time. Law 12 adds clarity by stating it's an offence if the hand/arm is above the shoulder level, unless the player deliberately plays the ball. Thus, while VAR helps in decision-making, it's constrained by these subjective rules, making it challenging to determine handballs definitively."
If penalties are given that easy then maybe we should go to rugby scoring 5 points for a goal and 3 points for a pen.😂
Could the higher ups have made that decision on the penalty not the referee as there is no reason whatsoever for the referee to give it surely they would rather have Mbappe one of the world's best players in the next round rather than Newcastle 🤷♂️just a thought.
This referee is world class.....but he crumbled under the players... and crowd pressure...Shame on him..
It was VAR. it was not a penalty until they asked him to look again. why would they ask him to look at it again? Too many refs change their decision because they are asked to look again. VAR to blame.
The first robbery is the 8 mins added on the second is the penalty
1st robbery was the ball out, 2nd robbery was the shove on Gabby!
Pope shouldnt have wasted so much time then
You hypocrites!!!!! It’s either English at its best . The irony of Newcastle complaining about VAR is beyond hypocritical. Arsenal’s Jorginho got elbowed 1000% by Newcastle player and you lots ignored it
Wow still these Arsenal fans cry 🍼🍼🍼🍼 how many weeks now?
Shocking decision
As fans we need to protest with our feet, I no longer go, and won’t return until VAR is removed from the game…
That referee makes me not want to watch football anymore.
You two guys really use your noggins,a wee dram😂
Your not actually grasping whats actually going on.. V. A. R is "INFLUENCING" results
My beloved Boro scored against Man Utd in a cup game via a handball, and I'm still dumbfounded at how that stood, I understand the change in the rules and how that affected it but it was so clear to me however unintentional that it was handball all day long, the natural/unnatural position excuse is just window dressing in my opinion, I was happy when it was given due to the many obvious ones that went against us, but howay, a jokes a joke, and some of these decisions are just that, a joke, let's get back to basics, VAR is more a controversy than anyone expected, when something is a hindrance rather than a advantage its time to go back to the blackboard as they say, UTB