The Surprising History of Indian Food | Masala Lab Author Krish Ashok Reveals

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  • Join Varun Duggirala and Krish Ashok, author of ‘Masala Lab’ and TCS Global Head, as they explore the origins of Indian cuisine and the cultural influences that have shaped it over centuries. Krish sheds light on the fascinating history and science of flavours, spices, and techniques that make Indian food so unique and beloved worldwide.
    From understanding why no dal ever tastes as good as the one your mother makes, to the rich history of Biryani to why jaggery is not really any better than sugar, Krish busts every food myth and explains the truth behind it in this latest episode of Take aPause!
    Krish Ashok heads the Digital Workplace unit at Tata Consultancy Services where his team helps reimagine the future of work for large enterprise customers. In between MS Teams and Zoom meetings, he also likes cooking, a passion that resulted in a book called “Masala Lab: The Science of Indian Cooking” published by Penguin Random House in December 2020. Between eating and work, he additionally writes columns on topics at the intersection of technology and culture for a variety of platforms such as LiveMint etc.
    Follow Krish Ashok to learn all about science, food and more fun stuff! :
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    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    02:32 Krish Ashok On His First Unique Food Experience
    04:59 Krish Ashok On The Diversity of Flavors within Indian Cuisine
    07:44 Krish Ashok On The Indianization of Food: Borrowing and Adapting from Around the World
    10:08 Krish Ashok On The Complexities of Cooking
    17:28 The Cultural Evolution of Indian Food
    19:58 Krish Ashok Explains The Origins of Biryani
    27:40 Varun Duggi and Krish Ashok Discuss Fad Diets
    32:21 Krish Ashok Explains The Science Behind The Effects Of Sugar
    37:08 Varun and Krish On The Unique Art Of Indian Pickle Making
    39:36 The Multi-Dimensional Experience of Flavor and Nostalgia
    42:00 Familiarity and Novelty in Food Preferences
    49:32 Krish On Food and Nostalgia in Cultural Identity
    57:00 Krish Explains The Role Of Memories In Experiencing Food
    01:01:58 - Conditioning and Creating Cultural Identity through Food
    01:04:30 - The Cultural Variations of Food Preferences
    01:07:02 - Texture Preferences in Food Cultures
    01:11:57 - The Distorted View of Carcinogens in Media and Social Influencers
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    ABOUT VARUN
    A creative entrepreneur turned content creator, Varun is one of India’s leading conversationalists in the modern business, personal development, and creator landscapes with over 1 million podcast listens.
    The author of the bestseller Everything Is Out of Syllabus, he’s the host of Advertising Is Dead, one of India's most popular business podcasts with over 300,000 listens in 2021 alone, as well as co-host of Think Fast, an irreverent business podcast that has ranked #3 on Apple’s Podcast Marketing Charts.
    In 2009, he co-founded The Glitch, India’s largest ‘digital-first’ creative agency.
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  • @Yash-ek5gq
    @Yash-ek5gq Před 6 měsíci +47

    This podcast is literally 2 guys talking stuff with so genuinity and nostalgia. Also the observational skill of both of them is phenominal. Absolutely wonderful

  • @santraaofficial9563
    @santraaofficial9563 Před 11 měsíci +339

    @varun a CHAI TEA is called Chai Tea outside of India and there is a reason for that. For most Indians, chai is the only form of tea. But for the world, tea can be a green tea, a matcha tea, an iced tea, or an hibiscus tea and so on and so it can be CHAI tea which is another variant of tea for them. So when they say Chai tea, they are not repeating it in Hindi and English, they are saying it is Chai variant of tea which is basically a tea with milk done Indian way.

    • @binnikumarsingh6018
      @binnikumarsingh6018 Před 11 měsíci +35

      We can call Chai to green tea or lemon tea too... Tea means chai.. Doesn't matter what u r pouring in it..

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@binnikumarsingh6018 no but say I want to ask my mom for tea, I will tell her GREEN TEA, if I say chai I get chai

    • @dipsikhasaha6223
      @dipsikhasaha6223 Před 11 měsíci +21

      You have given such a nice pov to this thing. I had never thought about it this way.
      Its true that they don't need to say it like that but I am guessing they say it so because of this exact logic.

    • @sureshbabusekharan7093
      @sureshbabusekharan7093 Před 11 měsíci +9

      Chai for us is Indian milk tea. For other teas we specify black tea, lemon tea, green tea and etc

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ Před 10 měsíci +2

      Apparently places that received tea from China by sea routes called it some variation of tea, and places along the silk road called it some derivative of _cha._ Of course, this isn't always the case, a prominent exception is Japan, which calls it _ocha,_ despite being an archipelago.

  • @sarathtech91
    @sarathtech91 Před 4 měsíci +14

    I never thought a conversation about food could be so enlightening, traversing such a diverse set of topics: history, people, culture, geography, science, and most importantly, encompassing all that which makes us human.
    The part at 39:40, about the memories associated with your mother cooking, made me emotional. ❤
    Food is powerful. Thank you for such a wonderful conversation. We definitely need a Part 2. 🙂

  • @MSahyadri
    @MSahyadri Před 9 měsíci +36

    It is so refreshing to hear someone who has actually studied food, with a deep passion. After so-called food books by people who assumed, rather than researched, this is a breath of fresh air! Buying the book today!

  • @jissythomas431
    @jissythomas431 Před 10 měsíci +56

    I remember an episode of David Rocco, an Italian chef, who competed with an Indian chef. Both made risotto. When the Indians were made to taste, they rejected his risotto stating that the rice isn't cooked well. Rocco said that rice is always cooked al dente in Italy. If he cooks it in the Indian way, his mom would kill him.. 😂

    • @aviralkitchenhut7971
      @aviralkitchenhut7971 Před 6 měsíci

      😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 kk😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊0

    • @darylldavis2846
      @darylldavis2846 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yea I remember that😂😂also there’s one more moment where the Indian chef used tomato ketchup and David’s face goes 🙁
      😂😂

    • @jissythomas431
      @jissythomas431 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@darylldavis2846, we Indians cook everything our way. 😆

    • @mrgyani
      @mrgyani Před 4 měsíci

      I remember it, it was so dumb - audience were teaching an Italian chef how to make risotto 😅
      I cringed.

    • @jissythomas431
      @jissythomas431 Před 4 měsíci

      @@mrgyani I guess that episode was just to show the difference between Indian cooking and Italian. But I enjoyed David's expression when his risotto was rejected by the Indian tasters. 😂

  • @manjitrupbikram
    @manjitrupbikram Před 11 měsíci +10

    Thanks for sharing. I am from the north east and our experience is totally different. India is so diverse!

    • @chickentender4037
      @chickentender4037 Před 9 měsíci

      That's ibe I'd the reasons why I (Chinese) don't get bored with it. Too much to explore!

  • @mrgyani
    @mrgyani Před 4 měsíci +4

    You learn so much every time you listen to Krish Ashok. This was like a mini version of Sapiens for me, discussed from the prism of food.

  • @SarvagunSomePun
    @SarvagunSomePun Před 7 měsíci +3

    A delhite living in Vijaywada for a decade, it feels good to hear about vijaywada. Also love Krish Ashok..and this whole conversation.❤

  • @itpradeep
    @itpradeep Před 10 měsíci +6

    12 mins in listening the video, the wealth of knowledge exhibited is much appreciated. Well structured, should have been a podcast 👍👌

  • @therandomreacher
    @therandomreacher Před 7 měsíci +3

    One of my most favourite episodes of any podcast that exists on CZcams 💙

  • @gnprashi
    @gnprashi Před 11 měsíci +9

    Awesome episode. We need definitely more of Krish Ashok sir.

  • @mithra2396
    @mithra2396 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Found "Masala Lab" on Audible...I am eager to Listen to that book now! Thanks

  • @pranavmarla
    @pranavmarla Před 11 měsíci +16

    Love the new studio set-up Varun. Your curious line of questioning is the essence of podcasting, more power to you. Krish is gem, probably his best conversation I've seen.

    • @krishashok
      @krishashok Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you!

    • @pranavmarla
      @pranavmarla Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@krishashok Krish thank you for what you do! I absolutely love that you dive down to the science of why something happens, you are an icon of Indian food.

  • @iracture
    @iracture Před 9 měsíci +10

    Decades of being fed on mum prepared food, live-in maid , defence mess chefs across India , I started preparing meals after we were posted internationally. Incidentally I feel since last many years I have actually lived thru all your observations as I experimented in the kitchen... varied flavor profile in different fat, multi-dimensional aspect of enjoying food/memories. As we get heavy exposure to international cuisines, I can't help but appreciate the ingenuity of Indian cusine wrt gut health. Venison meat available during Herbst in Europe is the best tasting meat after Indian goat meat as per my taste buds.
    I hope in future you will write about health thru food. Healthiest people I came across are in Germany - even after just eating beer, hard bread and meat thru out their life these guys are upright as a stick even into their 80s.

  • @SahithiBon_e_e
    @SahithiBon_e_e Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this beautiful video, Varun Duggi. Krish explained concepts with so much empathy. Loved it 😍

  • @shubhojeetbose8407
    @shubhojeetbose8407 Před 11 měsíci +27

    Very refreshing conversation. Polau is actually derived from original ancient Indian dish 'Palanno' (it was been making from very ancient time through out this allover subcontinent) where pal or paul means meat and anna means boiled rice or food as a whole.

  • @JKate5
    @JKate5 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I m from Poland and yes European food is,, simpler,, if it comes to the spices, even tho i like Indian food but after a while im, tired, of that taste, loaded of spices and im getting back to the tasty simplicty.. So im glad we have diversity around the world... we all can be proud from our own.

    • @neelamverma282
      @neelamverma282 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Staple Indian food is very simple. It’s just that people have started eating festive food daily.

    • @dhunpatel5319
      @dhunpatel5319 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@neelamverma282 🤣 Zomato ka chakkar babu bhiya zomato ka chakkar 😅.

    • @gowriprakash5145
      @gowriprakash5145 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Indian home made everyday food is simple and not so spicy except the food on special occasions...as you people have to eat outside food.. you feel it too much spicy and you're right after some time it would be boring..even we don't prefer eating outside more than 2 or 3 days...also as outside eating culture increased since the last 20 years the quality of taste is not so great also..some times the food looks so delicious but tastes very bland still people eat enthusiastically...I really wonder

  • @Oceansta
    @Oceansta Před 8 měsíci

    Absolutely outstanding podcast. Loved the insights!

  • @shivaanihu
    @shivaanihu Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wow!! This was so engaging and has got me curious to know more about what Krish Ashok has to say. Some of the things that have stayed from the conversation: "...cooking food to kick in their nostalgia is a very intimate and generous act." " ...novelty is acceptable when you are unfamiliar " Indianised the food >>> Indian food.
    Thanks for putting this out to be received 🤗

  • @randomcoolstuff2807
    @randomcoolstuff2807 Před 9 měsíci

    Absolutely loved this!!! ❤

  • @prasannakrg
    @prasannakrg Před 11 měsíci +1

    Fabulous interview

  • @suruchisaini27
    @suruchisaini27 Před 9 měsíci

    Great talk for sure!!....Preparing meals from the scratch following Ayurvedic base, with positive vibrations in the mind n eating at a mid pace, is the best n very therapeutic for mind n Body!!!

  • @amrithanarayanan462
    @amrithanarayanan462 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I really enjoyed this video. Thanks youtube for recommending this ❤

  • @lademoiselleketoret6958
    @lademoiselleketoret6958 Před 6 měsíci

    This is really wonderful. I am enjoying the very measured way you both are exploring and sharing information! Love it. Thank you! 😍🙏🏽

  • @sajilsingh6819
    @sajilsingh6819 Před 11 měsíci +2

    An interesting conversation and a good learning for listeners like myself…Kudos👏🏽

  • @wordsbydivya
    @wordsbydivya Před 11 měsíci +3

    Timestamps made me go hungry. Thank you so much for covering all aspects of Indian Foods Varun Sir 🍱

  • @30tariqumar
    @30tariqumar Před 9 měsíci

    The most informative as well as interesting eye opener after a long time.

  • @aniketpawar6180
    @aniketpawar6180 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Love the episode.
    Thank you krish
    I am not a good cook but your stories and easy to understand science always fascinates me to cook more.

  • @ramyakrishy
    @ramyakrishy Před 5 měsíci

    Listening to this magical podcast is making my mouth water.... that's the beauty of the podcast....❤

  • @asharma103
    @asharma103 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Awesome discussion. Agree 100% because I've been saying something similar for a long time about our foods, culture and traditions. Being a 10th generation Kannadiga of ethnic Tamilian descent, my family gels with this thought this way for a long time.

    • @aprilblossoms4
      @aprilblossoms4 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Did not expect to see someone say a 10th generation kannadiga of Tamil descent because my family has a history of being Tamil migrants in Karnataka for over 400 years. Quite curious to know where you family is from in Karnataka if you are willing to share.

    • @dnapolren
      @dnapolren Před 10 měsíci +1

      I am first gen Kannadiga of Tamil decent

    • @vicky700cat
      @vicky700cat Před 7 měsíci +1

      Wow !!! I am 50th generation kannadiga of Kannada descent

    • @santhoshrider7348
      @santhoshrider7348 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​@@vicky700catI'm a 1,00,000th generation Homo-Sepian of African descent 😁😂

  • @harshdadhania6495
    @harshdadhania6495 Před 11 měsíci +7

    With due respect to the guest Mr. Krish Ashok
    Yes, the food doesn't loses its nutrients, but there is a difference in how old
    food and new food is processed in our body.
    Certainly there is nothing wrong in usage of refrigerator and microwave but everything got its limits.
    For example any item after a certain period goes bad or stale even after refrigeration. Refrigeration just slows the decaying process.
    Therefore it is not suddenly going bad, it's gradual process, so the earlier you eat the better. You can see how your body responds to the food, need not believe anybody or theories.

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 Před 11 měsíci

      Evolution is not at the same speed as technological developments, that’s the reason today we see fat people everywhere. Even the one with normal BMI has weird shape. But people in 70s, I have hoppy of watching black and white old photos , and I don’t spot ONE FAT man walking on street, except few vendors in ghee shops.

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +3

      The veggies that you get from the market everyday also come from refrigerated cold storages.

  • @lasi_eisbaer
    @lasi_eisbaer Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you guys for sharing all this with the rest of us

  • @kavinanil7406
    @kavinanil7406 Před 11 měsíci +33

    There are 6 types of taste of often referred Tamil. ( Aru suvai - 6 types of tastes)
    Enipu - sweet - sugary dishes, laddu, jangiri (made with fermented urud dal), ragi puttu, kambu puttu (pearl Millet) eaten with jaggery
    Uvarpu or uppu - salty - pickles
    Pulipu - tangy or citrus or sour taste - puli kulambu (Tamarind gravy), tamarind rice and dishes, fish kulambu is basically pulipu
    Thuvarpu - astringent - beetel leaves, pomegranates, naval palam (Java plum or violet fruit), asofetidia
    Kasapu - bitter - bitter gourd ( pavakka)
    Karpu or kaaram - hot or spicy - dishes that are burning you taste buds
    Dishes or foods or fruits or vegetables or edibles made with 6 types of these tastes aid human body in asimilating various types of nutrients. Even diseases or ailments can be treated with the combination of medicines or foods made from these taste (ayurveda).

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Heat (spicyness) is not a taste, it's a sensation, you can still feel the burning sensation if you rub a chilli on your skin, and since our tongue is way more sensitive the heat feels more warmer and sharper, mixed with other flavours it gets rounded up.
      The other taste you missed out is the 'Umami' flavour, that's the taste of meat, mushrooms, spinach etc.

    • @kavinanil7406
      @kavinanil7406 Před 10 měsíci

      @@direct.skc.2 The heat is produced by so many different foods. Not just chilles. There are many species which are spicy or give the taste of hotness. Pepper, cloves, cinnamon, bay leaves, garlic, ginger, betel leaves, and many more. There is no direct tamil name for the meat taste. But all types of meat are called 'pulal'. This name only refers to the meat.

    • @kavinanil7406
      @kavinanil7406 Před 10 měsíci

      @@direct.skc.2 The hotness is a type of sensation that our tongues or skins perceive. How can it not be a taste..? Hotness or spiciness is perceived by all sensory organs in our body. But it's not just preceived just by our tongue. Yea it's produced by many compounds.

    • @kavinanil7406
      @kavinanil7406 Před 10 měsíci

      @@direct.skc.2 These 6 tastes specially classified means, is that the foods or medicines made in these tastes cures or treats humans' ailments or sickness. There are certain types of foods with tastes that should be avoided if one has a certain condition. There are certain types of foods or medicines or natural sources of food that should be eaten for certain other conditions. Like carbonated drinks should be avoided, coz air or any form of gas shouldn't be mixed with foods. It will cause our inflammation to increase or digestive system and gut to lose its effectiveness in nutrition absorption. In Tamil we have a saying, 'unave maarunthu' meaning, Food as medicine. Food should be had as medicine.

  • @yeskay9685
    @yeskay9685 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Excellent talk by Varun - about 'Culinary Psychology' You should classify the topics are bring out episodes 2 & 3 as well.

  • @sujathanagaraja7692
    @sujathanagaraja7692 Před 4 měsíci

    Really appreciate the practical no nonsense approach to food! Please elaborate on the types of cooking oils and their merits especially the cold pressed vs packaged oils. Thanks

  • @sandhyayellapantula7035
    @sandhyayellapantula7035 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I remember my first taste of food prepared by my mom dal and soft rice with ghee. Dal was always Maharashtrian style. I still love and miss my Maharashtrian food.

  • @rutujahardas5454
    @rutujahardas5454 Před 11 měsíci

    Excellent! Need one more on this

  • @skaranjai
    @skaranjai Před 11 měsíci +2

    Lovely episode. ❤️❤️

  • @elisinger4172
    @elisinger4172 Před 3 měsíci

    So much respect for Krish. His ability to understand cuisines of the world without placing judgement is something we all could strive for.

  • @mawisimte7947
    @mawisimte7947 Před 3 měsíci

    Here from NE, I have an aunty who doesn't like rice cooked in pressure cooker and many of the elders in our community prefer food prepared using woods. They say the smell of the food is more delicious. Really enjoyed listening to this podcast😊

  • @kaafideep
    @kaafideep Před 6 měsíci +1

    Love the way you drive these conversations Varun! ❤🤌🏼

  • @soosyjacob2827
    @soosyjacob2827 Před 7 měsíci

    I am listening to this episode for the first time and I really enjoyed. It was very informative and interesting.

  • @libraaa6547
    @libraaa6547 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Loved the whole chat.. Quite engaging and insightful.. And that trivia about Sita was news to me:)

  • @adeshn9977
    @adeshn9977 Před 4 měsíci

    Another amazing guest Sir Krish Ashok. I follow him on instagram and youtube for his valuable insights about food. Great to hear this podcast also.

  • @direct.skc.2
    @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci

    Just my ype of content.
    Food culture and history is what I trive on.
    Thanks for the podcast Varun, much appreciated. 👍😎

  • @shrutijadhav9688
    @shrutijadhav9688 Před 6 měsíci

    Wonderful conversation loved it ❤❤❤

  • @khushbooracca6662
    @khushbooracca6662 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The episode was very interesting and very informative.
    Kindly bring krish ashok back for more of this talk

  • @koorka
    @koorka Před 2 měsíci

    This was fantastic. Extremely interesting and eye opening, even for someone who has been following krish Ashok for years and been reading books on food and nutrition and food history and so on.

  • @Aloevera97
    @Aloevera97 Před 17 dny

    Amazing and interesting informations..thank you so much sir

  • @fictionaldeviltv
    @fictionaldeviltv Před 11 měsíci

    Need more of this...

  • @geeteshiyer
    @geeteshiyer Před 11 měsíci +2

    The journey from Doing Jalsa Showing Jilpa to being a wellness influencer .
    KA is ❤️❤️

  • @ashwinrajpurohit617
    @ashwinrajpurohit617 Před 7 měsíci

    Insightful

  • @2001divyapaul
    @2001divyapaul Před 8 měsíci

    He had me at 'Bangalore'!💛

  • @Shri_Hegde
    @Shri_Hegde Před 7 měsíci +2

    8:58 It might be other way right ? Idli might have gone to indonasia as kidli.... As Southern kings have conquered indonesia and rules that land for several years.. We say this is the origional food based on in which story westerners agreed and popularise it...

  • @braunarsch
    @braunarsch Před 10 měsíci +6

    there's so much more about food that can be talked about, i hope there's a part 2! :)

  • @mohitmadhavani108
    @mohitmadhavani108 Před 11 měsíci

    Love the way you take the conversation so nicely😍

  • @tanvigudhekar4308
    @tanvigudhekar4308 Před 6 měsíci

    Very knowledgeable episode.

  • @piyushagarwal1350
    @piyushagarwal1350 Před 2 měsíci

    Great conversation!!

  • @T0NYD1CK
    @T0NYD1CK Před měsícem

    Fascinating interview. Thank you. My only regret is that I can award only one "like"!
    Some countries have committees that regulate what words are allowed in their language. English has changed hugely over time. Every new language influence has been embraced. You have new words? We will add them, was the approach. I see "Indian food" in a similar light. You have new flavours? Great, we will make them Indian flavours!
    As a food non-expert, I find it difficult to identify the essence of Indian food. If you remove influences from the Far East including the Moguls, Persia and the Americas, I sometimes wonder what is left!

  • @mikeibra9301
    @mikeibra9301 Před 11 měsíci +8

    One of the best talks/discussions on Indian food. By the way, both of you should hit a bengali restaurant to have fried EGGPLANT (cut in cross-section), yellow dahl, with steamed rice and a ghondho-raj lemon. You can add yogurt or curd if you like. This might become your favorite food after biriyani.
    I am sort of embarrassed to make this joke, but I was expecting Krish Ashok to tell us how hard it was to wicket keep for Murali.

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Baingan bhaja, well visit Maharashtra, we have Konkani rice delicacies, our deserts are of rice, our main course is rice, modak is rice

    • @Krishnazflute
      @Krishnazflute Před 10 měsíci

      @@Kathakathan11 modak is out of this world yummy. And puranpoli.

  • @spui
    @spui Před 11 měsíci +8

    I am South Indian, most of the dishes I had and loved were vegan. Then I remembered - every time I had rice, I had to mix it with yoghurt. So I was rarely vegan.

    • @vinaytalluri
      @vinaytalluri Před 11 měsíci +3

      You mix it with Curd nit Yougurt bro.
      Yougurt and curd are not one. Dont bother to be Vegan by all force. Just relax. If being vegan is good for the world, our ancestors would have told it way back.

    • @angiethebookaholic
      @angiethebookaholic Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@vinaytalluri whats the difference?

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@angiethebookaholic What we called curd is actually yoghurt. What westerners call curd is the liquid byproducts (what remains) of cheese-making.

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@vinaytalluriI live in the west and just had my lunch with yogurt to end with, it's the same as desi curd. The term 'curd' is non-existent on this side of the world, and it doesn't mean anything else. To 'curdle up' is to mean when the milk solids separate out from the rest of the liquid. That's the only place where 'curd-le' is used.

    • @rekhathomas1722
      @rekhathomas1722 Před 10 měsíci +1

      All South Indians mix rice eith yougurt/ curd everyday as the last course of the meal

  • @satyenbose1
    @satyenbose1 Před 6 měsíci

    Very informative and logical

  • @namiagulati5148
    @namiagulati5148 Před 10 měsíci

    Very interesting and informative.

  • @nickgharibian6935
    @nickgharibian6935 Před 5 měsíci

    excellent conversation, this is prime example of east meets "American" West food discussions. This is much wiser, and realistic picture of food and humans. This is what Americans keep missing about food! They uncover something and try to explain for many things. Science is the tool that explains the how, not the why. I think Eastern cultures are more wiser in taking the how and try to provide the why in a different way.

  • @vishalumaria
    @vishalumaria Před 11 měsíci

    Very fresh podcast nice thank you

  • @kalpavrukshg8853
    @kalpavrukshg8853 Před 11 měsíci +16

    In North India, Dal chaval & Khicdi are very common, which is similar in texture to South Indian dishes. And even east has similar rice eating culture either it is Bengal or odissa etc in terms of texture. ( kheer phirni or paysum are similar) so I don't think so texture argument stands for rasam

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 Před 11 měsíci

      This man is ignorant, and slightly ethnic hater. He actually thinks rice and coconut are only in south.

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I have never seen a North Indian dal as runny as a rasam, also NIs are not great at eating runny rice with hand, they are roti eaters and never developed the motor skills to scoop up runny rasam rice.
      In Bengal however, they have runny masoor dal that goes together with rice, but they add alu bhaja or some other bhaja to the scoop mix that holds it together.

    • @Neerja1905
      @Neerja1905 Před 9 měsíci

      In Odisha (and in other eastern states) eat Pakhala- which is rice in curd water or just water - in the summer… and we are also close to South India, so similar landscape, similar produce, hence some more commanality

    • @kalpavrukshg8853
      @kalpavrukshg8853 Před 9 měsíci

      @direct.skc.2 in gujarat, they have Osaman dal, which is watery. In many parts in relative north, we have rice + buttermilk (it is watery ) based dishes as Neerja mentioned that also has similar texture.

    • @kalpavrukshg8853
      @kalpavrukshg8853 Před 9 měsíci

      @Neerja1905 yes, but odisha culturally is also close to Bengal. So I think states like Maharashtra, karnataka , Odisha , and Adhra Pradesh are kind of transitional. They have mixed dishes border areas where there is culture, language, and food blend in with one another.

  • @gopuprakash160
    @gopuprakash160 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The Chinese wok is called 'cheena chatti' in Kerala, something that came from china. The Chinese konji is essentially the same kanji in Kerala/Tamil Nadu

  • @indiannajames8428
    @indiannajames8428 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Loving this as a second generation Indian woman chef in the UK. I would refuse to cook chicken tikka masala, every time I was asked to cook a curry I would say fine, but it's not like the typical British Indian curry, it will be what I cook at home. As a second generation, I do like to explore combining other ingredients from around the world and other cuisines with Indian food. Some people knock fusion food, but to that I would say, much like Krish Ashok says, Pav Bhaji is the ultimate fusion food and does it matter so long as the food tastes really good. Food is always evolving but equally it's good to keep classic and traditional recipes alive. Great interview : )

  • @sapnarazora
    @sapnarazora Před 3 měsíci

    Loved it❤❤
    Looking forward for more 👏👏👏

  • @jeetgupta9586
    @jeetgupta9586 Před 11 měsíci +10

    We need more people like Krish Ashok
    He is a gem ❤

  • @AemyWelsch
    @AemyWelsch Před 6 měsíci +3

    Argh I hated aubergine as a child. That slimy mush would make me heave. Thank you for this episode. I am doing a PhD on food practices and I love the fact that someone in India is having these conversations. Please bring him back soon. Cheers

    • @nottsoserious
      @nottsoserious Před 5 měsíci +2

      First time I've seen an Indian person say aubergine and not brinjal

  • @sanjayhulagur6009
    @sanjayhulagur6009 Před 6 měsíci

    Brillant Podcast.....

  • @manjuprabhuv
    @manjuprabhuv Před 10 měsíci

    One of the best chat saw I have seen in recent times.

  • @shubhamlal7010
    @shubhamlal7010 Před 4 měsíci

    It really started well with discussing about how food evolve in India. Then it slowly turned out north Indian vs South Indian with all those usual chit chat we hear in everyday.

  • @SgtScourge
    @SgtScourge Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thank you for the long form interview! I have a question about chicken Tikka. You mention it's leftover chicken? I was wondering if at some point before refrigeration people would just toss chicken pieces into a fermenting yogurt jar to coat them and preserve them for a while or the morning until cooked. I'm always very interested to hear about the practical life situations and circumstances that generate these cooking methods. Do you have other videos about how daily life 8n the past has formed certain dishes to be the way they are?

    • @ud1976
      @ud1976 Před 6 měsíci

      Similarly, I suspect that cheese was probably first discovered in the belly of calves.

  • @prajb4856
    @prajb4856 Před 6 měsíci

    Very interesting and informative

  • @kavinanil7406
    @kavinanil7406 Před 11 měsíci +3

    'Unavae marunthu' (Tamil) meaning Food as medicine. Food was never eaten for fun. There is an eating culture in South especially in Tamil Nadu, where there is a fasting before a feast or a fast after a feast.

  • @pratyasha10
    @pratyasha10 Před 11 měsíci

    Very interesting video

  • @pdpr91
    @pdpr91 Před 10 měsíci +2

    When Kerala was struggling with famine and starvation, the King of Travancore traveled to Brazil and brought back tapioca, Jack fruit and yam. Before British came, there were Dutch and Portuguese because of whom we have cashewnut which is still called parangandi or parangiandi (parangi=firangi for french/dutch/portuguese, andi=nut). This inspired keralites to use steaming technique to make appams, kozhukatta, ada and so on.appam also has a variety where you use fermented coconut wine. Kerala also had a jew population which influenced cooking. Muslim traders came to Muziris port (kodungalloor) and established Persian cooking there. The kozhikodan and kannoor cuisine has a lot of Arabic influences. And then came tye Syrian Christian

    • @nitishpavithran3191
      @nitishpavithran3191 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Yam and jackfruit were independantly domesticated by indigenous people of south ,SE asia and S. America. Not brought by parangis from S. America. But Tapioca is native to South america

    • @vigneshkn1157
      @vigneshkn1157 Před 7 měsíci

      Jackfruit is native to tropical India..

  • @anjanagopakumar
    @anjanagopakumar Před 10 měsíci

    Insightful!

  • @latamuse7969
    @latamuse7969 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Speaking of veg soups - please mention varieties of Koozh and kanji/ragi mudde - ancient calorie dense grain-based liquid and pappy foods consumed all over India and even in north eastern africa..

  • @agnividhyut
    @agnividhyut Před 11 měsíci +4

    The mānasollāsa (a 12th century Chalukyan text) mentions an 'iddārikā' which essentially is an idli. Lovely podcast though!

  • @ranjanajitkr
    @ranjanajitkr Před 10 měsíci +2

    That North Eastern fermented thing must be "Axone", pronounced as Akhuni, which is fermented Soya.

  • @jaysh3008
    @jaysh3008 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Am a south Indian from Mumbai. So used to these disco dosas and love them. Have also seen my southie friends from south India cringe on seeing it. Its more suited to the gujju palate but I totally love it. Guess its d familiarity aspect for Mumbai kids :)

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Mumbai is home for all good food getting ruined.

  • @jjayasheela1
    @jjayasheela1 Před 11 měsíci

    It has been fantastic

  • @Thesureleague
    @Thesureleague Před 16 dny

    Guys superb chat. Really enjoyed! Love from Karachi

  • @iArpanMishra
    @iArpanMishra Před 11 měsíci +6

    Krish Ashok is absolutely brilliant! I was not able to find any reference to Sita's favourite food being "Vension and Rice". I love to know the source Varun...

    • @Kathakathan11
      @Kathakathan11 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Tahat weird to think 😂😂 Sita eating non veg. She was from Mithila, agriculturally thriving land. So I can argue that meat eating is lesser possibility. But still I would love to know the source, dare he share it

    • @abhijit6332
      @abhijit6332 Před 11 měsíci +10

      You must be vegeterian and have extreme prejudice towards nonveg food, otherwise out of 75 minutes of podcast you would not have picked this point. At the time of ramayana, the khatriyas mostly all ate meat, mostly cooked with just spices no onion and garlic. Anyway here is a quote from the Valmiki Ramayana,
      "suraaghaTasahasreNa maamsabhuutodanena cha |
      yakshye tvaam prayataa devi puriim punarupaagataa || 2-52-89"
      Basically, Sita maa is offering cooked meat and rice along with thousand pits of liquour to Ganga mata after safe return.
      Mind you you will not find any evidence in Modern Ramayana, our values have changed so much over the course of thousand of years.

    • @maniish2165
      @maniish2165 Před 11 měsíci +5

      @Abhijit Yeah, someone please tell these people. They keep forgetting that Rama and Sita were kshatriya. They eat meat. Why else would they hunt for deer and such?

    • @krishashok
      @krishashok Před 11 měsíci +6

      Lots of references. Here is one example
      तौ तत्र हत्वा चतुरो महामृगान्
      वराहमृश्यं पृषतं महारुरुम्।
      आदाय मेध्यं त्वरितं बुभुक्षितौ
      वासाय काले ययतुर्वनस्पतिम्।।2.52.102।।
      Refers to hunting one boar and 3 kinds of deer to eat.

    • @Vistaspsam
      @Vistaspsam Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Kathakathan11 You will find enough meat eating references, by even Brahmins (forget Kshatriyas, which is what Ram and Sita were) in the Rigveda.

  • @mutyalarao
    @mutyalarao Před 5 měsíci +1

    Interesting topic to talk about!! Just about halfway through the episode. I would like to know the speaker's take on some of our sweets, savouries and staples made out of millets like jowar and bajra? Weren't they conceived as territorially suitable culinary ideas in India?. To discount them and claim that everything Indian is Indianized will be short sighted. I believe there even were references to Idli in the 9th century Kannada literature. The very similarity of the steaming process need not suggest a deduction from other cuisine.

  • @curiosity_cache07
    @curiosity_cache07 Před 11 měsíci

    Very interesting podcast ❤

  • @mkadam010
    @mkadam010 Před 11 měsíci +5

    That north east dish that has strong smell of fermentation must be Axone/Akhuni

  • @viduramdeworrastogi6857
    @viduramdeworrastogi6857 Před 11 měsíci +2

    One funny olfactory experience with food..I grew up in an onion garlic household and my in laws were quite strictly no onion no garlic...so the smell of hibf tadka was difficult to accept..but with time now..its difficult for me to cook let alone eat garlicky stuff! Though my kids love it!

  • @vijayavadivelu6652
    @vijayavadivelu6652 Před 9 měsíci

    Great conversation (except the earliest food memory story 😃)

  • @akankshatiwari2572
    @akankshatiwari2572 Před 4 měsíci

    The guest is such a good speaker

  • @prachisingh2616
    @prachisingh2616 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Shocking knowing about microwave n freeze food. Pls do more pod on the same😇. Need to learn more.

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Freezer drops the temp of the environment so that microbes don't get the right warmth to grow.
      Microwave excites the water molecules that are there inside every food to run around with high energy, thus generating heat. That's why the vessel never gets heated up in a microwave, just the organic matter.

  • @PhalgunnMaharishi
    @PhalgunnMaharishi Před 6 měsíci

    Rex theatre... English movie... Once a month!! You got me there 😀That's my childhood! Thanks!

  • @shruthihebberalu9969
    @shruthihebberalu9969 Před 11 měsíci

    Very great conversation can anybody give me original Indian cuisine, cause we are clever but we borrowed everything what is unique to us?

  • @rutuparnajena4873
    @rutuparnajena4873 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I have a question,how to get glowing,radiant skin like these guys ?… look at them,they are glowing🤩🤩🤩

  • @tobaccopro7770
    @tobaccopro7770 Před 7 měsíci

    My favourite podcast episode was on Joe Rogan with Naval Ravikant. This episode came super close to that❤

    • @VarunDuggi
      @VarunDuggi  Před 7 měsíci

      🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹

  • @a.j.vasudev7700
    @a.j.vasudev7700 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Good information about our food . It is right to that every 40km ,our recipes change 😅.. and we have ancient recipes as given by our best master chefs Bheema ( pandal prince) and king Nala from our ancient times. Recently in Rajastan in one Harappan Archeological site ,found 4K + year old Multi grain laddus - using wheat+ barley + chickpeas + jaggery + sesameseeds etc., !! And certainly some recipes using peppercorn ,as we don't have chilies 🌶 , but we telugu ppl can't imagine how we will live without Avakai ( ఆవకాయ)😅

  • @soumavabasu2856
    @soumavabasu2856 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The uniqueness of biriyani is well-explained. Thank you. However, I came across this dish from Azerbaijan called shah pilaf. This is called pilaf but technique is similar to biriyani, more like a purdah biriyani.

    • @direct.skc.2
      @direct.skc.2 Před 10 měsíci

      India imported pardah biriyani from Turkey. It's popular throughout Ottoman countries and Middle East but it's origin is Turkish and they have a GI patent for it.