Clarke Wolf this comment is so accurate hahaha. Also this film is on a cult status with myself and many others, i hold this to Kubrick standards, i think he would’ve loved this
Fun Fact: You can faintly hear a child crying in the background but right when the first shove hits, The crying stops immediately. Pretty good detail that the crying was in his head
This is the most realistic fight I have ever seen in a movie. I have watched tons of action movies. Nothing like this. I'm sure PTA just said guys...go at it.
I love that after the hyper-masculine environment of the army, the first place Freddy ends up when he returns to the civilian world is a department store, surrounded by perfume stalls and mannequins dressed in pink. It’s such an interesting depiction of Freddy’s alienation, and that moment he staggers our of the store, with everyone staring at him like a leper, the few notes of Jonny Greenwood’s score creeping in, it’s just so strange and discomforting. Damn good movie
yup, and him being angry he cant have that, only person thats ever been in to him is an underage girl . And how he asks the guy if the picture is for his wife? and the baby crying ontop of it, all that built up anger just comes out in any way he can. hes just like the baby but in a mans body
For sure, love it. Not to mention, he'd been taking pictures of these beautiful families for presumably, weeks. His yearning for family and human connection is really highlighted in this scene and offers the most insight into his character.
@@danielscott4701 He just really needs someone to love/love him. I never thought about it like that but you are right Have a great life Thank u Even animals need love from other animals
One of my absolute favorite scenes in the movie. I like background sounds of a busy mall; children’s cry, voices. You can feel that tension and frustration that brewing in Freddy’s mind. Perfect scene to capture Freddy’s detachment from society.
Yes, because I notice that once the guy first pushes him off the crying in the background stops like if all of that noise was in his head and that this is the moment when he finally snaps. Just a thought.
After seeing this movie in theaters, I couldn't look at films the same ever again. It was the closest I've come to seeing something as powerful as Kubrick in theaters.
Movie was boring, predictable, too long, but the acting was superb. Chill out guys, it’s not a “classic” or even a “good” film. Certainly not on the level of Kubrick (although I happen to think Kubrick was & is over-rated) this movie doesn’t hold a candle.
@@AncientLegi0nwhat seems to you predictable about this film? It follows such a chaotic character and dinamics that every scene feels surprising. Genuenly asking
I love how it manages to look 1950s (and cartoony - the guy's waddling bulldog fight-walk) while also seeming so incredibly modern. The same with PTA's dialogue. He's a true genius
W. Earl Brown and Joaquin Phoenix really went for it in this scene. You can tell that they've been in their fair share of real fights because there's nothing fake or rehearsed about this. It really seems raw and real.
@@joeking6972 how, it’s exactly how it would be it was muddled, awkward both acting like they don’t want to throw a punch besides Joaquins character Freddy had been in many fights
It's a kinda humorous scene in a crazy way (I'm sure I remember chuckling a good bit when I first saw it), but within the movie as a whole, knowing what we know about Freddie as a person, it's ultimately a really sad scene to me. Freddie lashes out like a wild animal here because the guy whose photo he is taking seems to be a content, confident, well-off, stable man with a wife and probably kids that give his life some comfort and meaning. There's some bitter envy (and some strong booze obviously) in Freddie's behavior here because all of that stuff seems so impossibly far away from Freddie, so unattainable for him. You can see how bitter and envious he is when he asks the guy quite aggressively, "Is this for your wife??" It really is a pretty sad scene, altogether, when you think about it.
The whole film is a bit like that, on the surface, its this guy doing these erratic, inappropriate, yet hilarious things, but you look deeper and there's that well of sadness in his eyes. Like a wounded animal that's been inching towards the end of its life for years. I think that's what sways people away from a film like this because it revels in freddie's psychological disorders. But in some ways, i envy the way freddie is pure id and how he still manages to bed women, and drink, and just sail from port to port. He's a man's man, for better or worse.
Yeah, I found myself identifying with Freddie at certain moments. That's one of the great things about the film (and about all of Anderson's stuff): it doesn't really pass judgement on any of these characters. It's far too complex a work of art for that. Like life, it remains aloof from any clear/heavy-handed message. You see things in Freddie's nature that are repellent, but also things that are relatable and even, at times, admirable in some ways. And the same can even be said of Dodd (which I think came as a surprise for some viewers who were expecting some moralizing cautionary tale or exposé/take-down of Scientology). The film is very agnostic in this way. It's like, "Here are some people, they are what they are, draw your own conclusions because who's to say?" I think this is why the film has the effect, at least in some discerning viewers, of causing one to sort of look in the mirror, to look inward at their own being, or how they are living their life, and really think about it. Lots of amazing, fascinating questions and mysteries in The Master, and no hard answers, just like real life.
Ahh so that's why he did it,I thought he did it because he thought he was a lieing piece of shit and having an affair or something but now you explained it makes sense.
One of the interesting things I don't see many people drawing comparison's to is that similarities between this gentleman and Hoffman's eventual character. How I always viewed it was a residual (if you want to go with Hoffman's characters themes of former memories) memory focusing Joaquin's character into following out of guilt. He clearly was troubled and lashed out for some reason, but that minor moment, at least in my opinion, shapes his entire relationship with Hoffman's character for the rest of the movie.
I wish people would eventually stop using this stupid terms "oscar bait" or "pretentious". As if someone like Spielberg is desperat for Oscars anyway. And I know a lot of people who called The Master pretentious too. Either a movie is good or it is not. period.
I fucking love DDL. He is my favorite actor. I even loved him in Lincoln. But this performance was miles ahead. There is no point in the movie where Phoenix is not amazing. PSH too. They both deserved to win an oscar for that movie.
There are some films that don't really deserve Oscars though tbh. A lot of them these days are handed out for political purposes, and not to award an achievement or breakthrough in cinema. It's not like it used to be. Not saying that about Lincoln or The Master.
Yes true. Have you seen midnight express? There's a fight scene between Billy Hayes and Rifky the prison snitch which is so realistic. It's such a good film, underrated by many..
This scene is incredible. It’s extremely intense, and interesting, while being very creative and funny. The part where he just says “You need to shut up” is hilarious. Superb acting.
That is correct, but i meant subtext wise. Lancaster Dodd says if he ever met Freddie in another life, he would be his sworn enemy and he'd show him no mercy. The editing of this film suggests that perhaps this man is Lancaster and Freddy in a different life.
alberto Cine Possibly. That would make sense as well. I think the film takes on endless interpretations due to it's ambiguity, which makes it all the more badass.
Me too! Well... I would put Christian Bale over him... but no we are witnessing a really exciting stretch of his career. With Inherent Vice about to come out and then after a Woody Allen movie, this may be the best it gets for JP fans.
@@estevanmunoz_ Completely agree. The top 3 best actors of this generation are easily Bale, Phoenix and Gyllenhaal. Like these three are well oiled acting beasts....
The madness boiling within his mind when he hears the baby crying, is brilliant acting by Joaquin. Still not sure if those cries are in his head or really happening in the store? But the acting leaves you wondering, which is exactly what he will bring to the Joker....”a calmness before the storm” type of performance. He looks extremely menacing and dangerous but you want to root for him.
Acting can't be more real than this otherwise it won't be called 'acting'. Waiting for Sir Joaquin Phoenix's speech after he gets an Oscar for The Joker 🖤
You cant direct or write this scene. Of course, you can describe the action, but Joaquin's performance is an artistic interpretation of the source material. It's almost scary
I haven't watched the behind the scenes to this (let alone, know if they touch up on this scene), but if I had to take a guess I'd say this wasn't even planned. They probably said, "forget the choreography; let's just fight. F**K it." And the film crew was just like, "Yeah, film every freaking thing. Production value." lol
Check There will be blood. Violence there feels as impulsive, raw and inconfortabile, fuelled by anger and frustration. PTA directing and methodic acting work so well together, resulting in powerful, real and haunting performances. His characters seem to live in my head after watching his movies, due to their unresolved and misterious motivations.
You can tell a lot of the fight was spontaneous, because the cameraman wasnt too sure how to follow what was going to happen, he started following Joaquin Phoenix too soon where we missed him threatening to throw another piece of glassware right before he leavess.
Fuck I just realised how lucky Freddie was. That was Dan Dorrity he started on. He's lucky he didn't get opened up like a tin of beans or his eye gouged out.
You’d be forgiven for thinking this was improvised. The initial push seemed very real. Like Joaquin wasn’t expecting it at all. Then the choking and the slaps. One of the best fight scenes I’ve ever scene - and this wasn’t even an action / martial-arts film! Oh, and impeccable work from the cameraman too.
The fight scenes in this film are better than 85% of the fight scenes in action films. It definitely is a beautiful film. Even if someone doesn’t like the storyline they’ll at least have to appreciate how well this film was shot.
Kubrick to his actors in a nutshell lol
Lol!!
Not according to most of the actors who actually worked with him.
Clarke Wolf this comment is so accurate hahaha. Also this film is on a cult status with myself and many others, i hold this to Kubrick standards, i think he would’ve loved this
Clarke Wolf kurick to chelly duvall
This comment should be laminated and hung on a plaque lmao 5 stars my guy
All he wanted to do was get the lighting right!
More like he wanted to fry him with that lamp.
With negative thoughts 😂😂
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It’s a crime this film was never even nominated for best cinematography. It’s one of the most beautiful looking pictures you will ever see.
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For some reason the academy flat out hates Paul Thomas Anderson
shut up, I bet you aren't even past OT-3 you petty pre-clear
진짜 어이가 없다
It definitely is a beautiful film.
Even if someone doesn’t like the storyline
they’ll at least have to appreciate how well this film was shot.
Fun Fact: You can faintly hear a child crying in the background but right when the first shove hits, The crying stops immediately. Pretty good detail that the crying was in his head
Yeah, the crying really gives you a feeling something is nagging and clawing at him... but also us.
Wow what an insight!! 🎉
Wow. I've watched this movie a ton and never thought of that.
U are a genius I never noticed that and this is my favorite movie
This is the most realistic fight I have ever seen in a movie. I have watched tons of action movies. Nothing like this. I'm sure PTA just said guys...go at it.
@Eternal lol
Eternal I think that was his point. Like no movies ever have fights that look real
That's because action movies usually have unrealistic fight scenes.
@@basedstag9760 yeah I know
Watch the bar fight scene from Mean streets
"You need to shaddup."
Lmao
LOL
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I love that after the hyper-masculine environment of the army, the first place Freddy ends up when he returns to the civilian world is a department store, surrounded by perfume stalls and mannequins dressed in pink. It’s such an interesting depiction of Freddy’s alienation, and that moment he staggers our of the store, with everyone staring at him like a leper, the few notes of Jonny Greenwood’s score creeping in, it’s just so strange and discomforting. Damn good movie
"Sit down. I'm very sorry. I'm trying to get the lighting right. You must understand, I WANT TO GET THE LIGHTING RIGHT."
LOL
More like the choking right 😂
The way he turns and heeds the crying child. The depth is just insane.
Joaquin should've won the oscar! i mean i love DDL, but Joaquin's acting in this was jaw dropping, he's like a chameleon in every movie
Aylla i agree Daniel Day lewis is my favorite actor but Joaquin had this one hands down
Nah, joaquin was very close, but DDL was frighteningly good as lincoln
Khizar Farooq gotta disagree Day Lewis was excellent but Joaquin put on one of the best performances in cinema history
And now he has an Oscar!
I think if DDL didn’t win in 2013 then Joaquin would’ve surely win the Oscar that year
He has stress from the war. He can hear the baby crying in the back and it throws him off
yup, and him being angry he cant have that, only person thats ever been in to him is an underage girl . And how he asks the guy if the picture is for his wife? and the baby crying ontop of it, all that built up anger just comes out in any way he can. hes just like the baby but in a mans body
For sure, love it. Not to mention, he'd been taking pictures of these beautiful families for presumably, weeks. His yearning for family and human connection is really highlighted in this scene and offers the most insight into his character.
@@danielscott4701
He just really needs someone to love/love him.
I never thought about it like that but you are right
Have a great life
Thank u
Even animals need love from other animals
One of my absolute favorite scenes in the movie. I like background sounds of a busy mall; children’s cry, voices. You can feel that tension and frustration that brewing in Freddy’s mind. Perfect scene to capture Freddy’s detachment from society.
Yes, because I notice that once the guy first pushes him off the crying in the background stops like if all of that noise was in his head and that this is the moment when he finally snaps. Just a thought.
I remember watching this scene, and I was like fuck this is going to be a fucking classic.
After seeing this movie in theaters, I couldn't look at films the same ever again. It was the closest I've come to seeing something as powerful as Kubrick in theaters.
agreed 100%
Movie was boring, predictable, too long, but the acting was superb.
Chill out guys, it’s not a “classic” or even a “good” film. Certainly not on the level of Kubrick (although I happen to think Kubrick was & is over-rated) this movie doesn’t hold a candle.
@@AncientLegi0n ahhh..the antichrist
@@AncientLegi0nwhat seems to you predictable about this film? It follows such a chaotic character and dinamics that every scene feels surprising. Genuenly asking
That was SCARY good acting! That looked like a real fight! THIS is the guy who’s going to be The Joker...
StruttinStrayCat the irony is the whole movie feels like the joker
This is the Joker we deserve to have it.
StruttinStrayCat just watch you were never really here if you can’t wait for joker
So i put i a razor in my mouth and do this to myself
I had a goosebumps with his laugh at (2:03). Sounds so Jokerish... even with little laugh.
I love how it manages to look 1950s (and cartoony - the guy's waddling bulldog fight-walk) while also seeming so incredibly modern. The same with PTA's dialogue. He's a true genius
W. Earl Brown and Joaquin Phoenix really went for it in this scene. You can tell that they've been in their fair share of real fights because there's nothing fake or rehearsed about this. It really seems raw and real.
Thats PSH
Especially in the way that W. Earl began to strangle him. Looks so realistic.
Yep
It’s actually the opposite this is exactly how two people who have never been in a fight before would fight.
@@joeking6972 how, it’s exactly how it would be it was muddled, awkward both acting like they don’t want to throw a punch besides Joaquins character Freddy had been in many fights
This film deserved at least a nomination for a cinematography Oscar.
best fight scene in Hollywood history
Maybe in Hollywood history but check out Kinski's bar fight In The Important Thing Is To Love.
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It's a kinda humorous scene in a crazy way (I'm sure I remember chuckling a good bit when I first saw it), but within the movie as a whole, knowing what we know about Freddie as a person, it's ultimately a really sad scene to me. Freddie lashes out like a wild animal here because the guy whose photo he is taking seems to be a content, confident, well-off, stable man with a wife and probably kids that give his life some comfort and meaning. There's some bitter envy (and some strong booze obviously) in Freddie's behavior here because all of that stuff seems so impossibly far away from Freddie, so unattainable for him. You can see how bitter and envious he is when he asks the guy quite aggressively, "Is this for your wife??" It really is a pretty sad scene, altogether, when you think about it.
The whole film is a bit like that, on the surface, its this guy doing these erratic, inappropriate, yet hilarious things, but you look deeper and there's that well of sadness in his eyes. Like a wounded animal that's been inching towards the end of its life for years. I think that's what sways people away from a film like this because it revels in freddie's psychological disorders. But in some ways, i envy the way freddie is pure id and how he still manages to bed women, and drink, and just sail from port to port. He's a man's man, for better or worse.
Yeah, I found myself identifying with Freddie at certain moments. That's one of the great things about the film (and about all of Anderson's stuff): it doesn't really pass judgement on any of these characters. It's far too complex a work of art for that. Like life, it remains aloof from any clear/heavy-handed message. You see things in Freddie's nature that are repellent, but also things that are relatable and even, at times, admirable in some ways. And the same can even be said of Dodd (which I think came as a surprise for some viewers who were expecting some moralizing cautionary tale or exposé/take-down of Scientology). The film is very agnostic in this way. It's like, "Here are some people, they are what they are, draw your own conclusions because who's to say?" I think this is why the film has the effect, at least in some discerning viewers, of causing one to sort of look in the mirror, to look inward at their own being, or how they are living their life, and really think about it. Lots of amazing, fascinating questions and mysteries in The Master, and no hard answers, just like real life.
Ahh so that's why he did it,I thought he did it because he thought he was a lieing piece of shit and having an affair or something but now you explained it makes sense.
One of the interesting things I don't see many people drawing comparison's to is that similarities between this gentleman and Hoffman's eventual character. How I always viewed it was a residual (if you want to go with Hoffman's characters themes of former memories) memory focusing Joaquin's character into following out of guilt. He clearly was troubled and lashed out for some reason, but that minor moment, at least in my opinion, shapes his entire relationship with Hoffman's character for the rest of the movie.
What you described is how i feel
That cracked me up how hard the old dude slapped him..
Love a good movie slap, this shit is in my top 5 along with the slap in True Detective
that focus puller deserves credit
Vince Tang right around 1:47, just beautiful transitions
Vince Tang like water
Cinematography is out of this world
SpookyPal yeah, they got the lighting right!
@@DANSABEATS XD
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That fight is too real to be fake...i bet Phoenix told him don’t hold back
The description: "I think he got the lighting right" 😂
Imagine you get all dressed up go in for a nice photo and they do you like that hahahahah
dude those punches and throat grabs felt real like hell,
I love how he takes that girl with him like “Let’s go, hon.”
And we never see her again the rest of the film. 😄
All one shot.... remarkable
Good Lord, one of the greatest performances of recent times! Sorry DDL, but Mr. Phoenix, you were robbed!
I agree, Lincoln was so boring!!
+Evin C.
Well, people said the same about The Master - and both time they were wrong.
I wish people would eventually stop using this stupid terms "oscar bait" or "pretentious". As if someone like Spielberg is desperat for Oscars anyway. And I know a lot of people who called The Master pretentious too.
Either a movie is good or it is not. period.
I fucking love DDL. He is my favorite actor. I even loved him in Lincoln. But this performance was miles ahead. There is no point in the movie where Phoenix is not amazing. PSH too. They both deserved to win an oscar for that movie.
There are some films that don't really deserve Oscars though tbh. A lot of them these days are handed out for political purposes, and not to award an achievement or breakthrough in cinema. It's not like it used to be. Not saying that about Lincoln or The Master.
One of the best scenes ever made
Very true, PTA rules.
I’m convinced they had real beef on set and that was their moment 😩
A better fight scene then any of the Marvel Cinematic Universes fighting scenes
say it again!.
It is a rather very realistic fight scene.
If joaquin becomes the joker, would this be considered part of the dceu universe..
This is the origin story of the joker
Evin C Phoenix is now the new Joker, but Leto is sitll the Joker in DCEU.
Probably the most realistic fight scene ever made actually.
Yes true. Have you seen midnight express? There's a fight scene between Billy Hayes and Rifky the prison snitch which is so realistic. It's such a good film, underrated by many..
And the winner of The Fight Club "lose a fight" homework assignment is.....
This scene is incredible. It’s extremely intense, and interesting, while being very creative and funny. The part where he just says “You need to shut up” is hilarious. Superb acting.
He got jealous, his emotions got the better of him. We all want a family , someone to love us unconditionally.
i love how all the fight scenes in this movie were real. no screen fighting at all. i really appreciate that kind of acting
Student filmmakers when they try to light a scene for the first time.
One of my favorite movie scenes. "You need to shut up"
Did anyone else die laughing at this scene? It looks like Joaquin was about to lose it when he says "You need to shut up" 😂
@Jaime The man he's fighting isn't Philip Seymour Hoffman.
I don't know the name of the actor but he must be a Taurus.
1:43 - This is how real fights go... there's no witty remarks between blows, nah.... shoving and grappling til someone walks away awkwardly....
It looks like Joaquin Phoenix is trying to hold back laughing when he tells the guy "You need to shuddap"
Yeah! It really does. I swear I can even hear his voice quiver the second time he tells him to shut up-
The point was the character found it funny too fuck with the guy
When the lightings off you gotta get it right
This scene is a perfect example of slapstick comedy. And that’s why I love it so much lol
"You know. You remind me of my father..."
Paul Thomas Anderson is on a different wavelength.
Just as the Earth inevitably orbits the Sun, the Photographer and the Customer move inevitably toward violence.
the Authenticness of PT is outstanding ! That alone makes this film lovely..
That escalated quickly.
Like real violence.
To me this is the best Joaquin Phoenix performance followed by a close 2nd with Joker
This is one continuous shot with no cuts.
There was a lot of them in this movie
Poor joaquin phoenix, always typecast as the most realistic human ever :(
That's The Joker right there!
Another time traveler i see :) Yes he's going to be excellent Joker, or just Jack Napier
@@Paradroidx no it was announced 6 months ago he would be playing it
Two more days
He's is a amazing joker.
OMG.. I used to play this scene over and over just to get a good gut busting laugh.. Till this day I'm 💀 when I see this. 😂😂😂
ITS HOT
T AB that’s hot, that’s hot
You need to shut up I’m trying to get the lighting right
You need to shut up.
Great scene. The other guy really smacks Phoenix/Freddy hard in the chops!
DarrenBonJovi
it must of been fair dinkum from the other actor. Phoenix took it well
The other actor is W Earl Brown and this is one of the most realistic intense scenes on film.
That is correct, but i meant subtext wise. Lancaster Dodd says if he ever met Freddie in another life, he would be his sworn enemy and he'd show him no mercy. The editing of this film suggests that perhaps this man is Lancaster and Freddy in a different life.
***** Interestingly, this may have happened after his meeting with lancaster .... the person bears a resemblance to lancaster
I was actually pleasantly surprised to see him in this. He did a great job as Bill in The Last of Us.
alberto Cine
Possibly. That would make sense as well.
I think the film takes on endless interpretations due to it's ambiguity, which makes it all the more badass.
Pierre Conrad I still need to play that game badly, but that sounds like a really cool voice casting choice.
My favorite scene in the whole movie :-)
I like how when this film was released some said Joaquin would make a great Joker. Now he actually did it :D
Greatest scene in film history
He was robbed of an Oscar for this movie, glad he finally got it for Joker.
I am in love with this actor.
This character looks kinda how he'll be in Joker
Unbelievably good acting from Phoenix, I watched this scene over and over, it was so shockingly real.
But it’s not real. It’s acting!
Just this scene alone deserves an Oscar.
The whole way this scene is staged, written, filmed, acted etc... I mean... it is BRILLIANT!
Lately Joaquin Phoenix is walking a really fine line between brilliant, nuanced performances with eccentric for just eccentricity's sake performances.
He's like my favorite actor ever now.
Me too!
Well... I would put Christian Bale over him... but no we are witnessing a really exciting stretch of his career. With Inherent Vice about to come out and then after a Woody Allen movie, this may be the best it gets for JP fans.
Oh and I love Bale too, Awesome character in American Hustle, but Phoenix had me since childhood with Signs.
@@estevanmunoz_ Completely agree. The top 3 best actors of this generation are easily Bale, Phoenix and Gyllenhaal. Like these three are well oiled acting beasts....
this is one of my favorite movie scenes, it's got it all
Maybe he was the lighting guy for Terminator: Salvation when Christian Bale freaked out about the dude wandering on set during the take!
The baby crying in the store triggered him, an annoyance. Freddie lacks all impulse control, PTSD coupled with alcoholism.
I never noticed that he baby was crying the whole time I alays thought it was because of them fighting.
The madness boiling within his mind when he hears the baby crying, is brilliant acting by Joaquin. Still not sure if those cries are in his head or really happening in the store? But the acting leaves you wondering, which is exactly what he will bring to the Joker....”a calmness before the storm” type of performance. He looks extremely menacing and dangerous but you want to root for him.
I really would love to see a tension oriented movie featuring scenes between Joaquin phoenix and Michael Shannon. This would be total bliss to Watch.
Oh heavens yes!!!!!!
I love how this was all done in one fucking take.
I’m pretty sure this is the most beautiful film ever made when it comes to cinematography and shot composition
He will bring this level of madness and and even more to the joker 😜
This part had me rolling 😂
Best scene in recent cinema
"You need ta shut up..." Haha!
For some reason I felt bad for the older gentleman
Acting can't be more real than this otherwise it won't be called 'acting'. Waiting for Sir Joaquin Phoenix's speech after he gets an Oscar for The Joker 🖤
^Absolutely! 👏👏👏
Do you feel guilty about drinking milk now?
That slap though!
And theres Arthur Fleck.... if you had doubts about him becoming the Joker... you never saw this movie..
Just think...he is NOT playing the Joker in this scene.
My God, the 40's to the early 60's were gorgeous. That department store is a temple to consumerism. In these lesser times we shop in simple boxes.
You cant direct or write this scene. Of course, you can describe the action, but Joaquin's performance is an artistic interpretation of the source material. It's almost scary
One of the greatest actors of his generation ... Totally in top 5. Brilliant...
I’d say of all time
I haven't watched the behind the scenes to this (let alone, know if they touch up on this scene), but if I had to take a guess I'd say this wasn't even planned.
They probably said, "forget the choreography; let's just fight. F**K it." And the film crew was just like, "Yeah, film every freaking thing. Production value." lol
Haha i agree. And it came out wonderful.
PTA said it wasn't discussed what would actually happen during the scene, just that they would have a confrontation.
The best fight I've seen in a movie, and I've seen shitload of movies, nothing compares to this, I was really stunned by how real and raw this looked.
Midnight express? The fight between Billy Hayes and Rifky.
Check There will be blood. Violence there feels as impulsive, raw and inconfortabile, fuelled by anger and frustration. PTA directing and methodic acting work so well together, resulting in powerful, real and haunting performances.
His characters seem to live in my head after watching his movies, due to their unresolved and misterious motivations.
You can tell a lot of the fight was spontaneous, because the cameraman wasnt too sure how to follow what was going to happen, he started following Joaquin Phoenix too soon where we missed him threatening to throw another piece of glassware right before he leavess.
I think it's an intentional aproach to the scene, so it feels impulsive and raw
It's HOT
Joaquin Phoenix= Legend! Pure Class!
Good on the old man for fighting back, thought he'd be the type who would just sit there and allow his ass to get kicked.
There is something so subtle about PTA’s directing techniques, it reminds me of Stanley Kubrick
Fuck I just realised how lucky Freddie was. That was Dan Dorrity he started on. He's lucky he didn't get opened up like a tin of beans or his eye gouged out.
Goddamn right Freddie was nothing but a San Francisco cocksucker
0:20 "Who tf is shouting,you better shut up"
What a amazing legend actor 😂😂😂😂😂😂😋😂😂
You’d be forgiven for thinking this was improvised. The initial push seemed very real. Like Joaquin wasn’t expecting it at all. Then the choking and the slaps. One of the best fight scenes I’ve ever scene - and this wasn’t even an action / martial-arts film!
Oh, and impeccable work from the cameraman too.
I just noticed that the baby crying stops as soon as the first push happens, wonder what that means...
The baby probably sensed shit was about to go down and decided to stfu...
Most likely building and setting up the chaos that would further ensue, indicating.
New Joker baby
yup, after watching this scene I think he'll be perfect!!
The fight scenes in this film are better than 85% of the fight scenes in action films.
It definitely is a beautiful film.
Even if someone doesn’t like the storyline
they’ll at least have to appreciate how well this film was shot.