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- The first installment of our new 1:42 Scale video series takes an up-close look at the legendary Russian battleship Borodino. Using a detailed scale model of the ship, the video takes a look at Borodino’s journey halfway around the world during the Russo-Japanese War and her loss during the Battle of Tsushima.
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Amazing video! Loved it! Cool info about how it's secondaries could operate in any weather condition to.
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That is a beautiful ship. Would not mind if it where in the game.
That model is gorgeous (Who would've thought that statement would be referring to a ship?). Can't wait to see more.
+Andy Young as a tank\battleship nerd i must say i do find battleships sexier than girls :P
Great video, hope wel'll see more in the future !
We need more pre dreadnoughts in game. : )
+pioltjose23 but make them work...not like mikasa clown
7:03 orchestral track? The music is just amazing
i really love Borodino ship, i am a modellist and borodino 1/350 is the best model in my collection! Thanks for this documentary
Just going off what I have seen here, if or rather when this class gets in WoWS it will be a brawler due to the heavy armor and large number of secondaries. I love the look of this class though so I cannot wait for it.
+NillocsKeep i wounder what kind of tier it would be in tier 2? maybe
+Outwardpanicjoe That would make sense, since the Mikasa is a T2 and fought in the same battle.
+NillocsKeep truuu I almost forgot about the mikasa it would be cool to see the both of them duke it out in the game :)
+Outwardpanicjoe Yeah that would be cool to see since irl when they fought the Borodino stood no chance simply due to numbers and tactics.
Thats most ww1 and dreadnought era battleships, one of the only battleships of those era that had a range advantage was the german Bayern class battleship which shares a lot in common with the tirpitz, but it had higher armor on its superstructure than the hull with the conning tower having over 400 mm of armor all around...
If they have the Mikasa in the game, they should put this ship in it too.
yes
The game needs more pre-dreadnoughts to derp around in at Tier 2.
It's interesting to note that Borodino and her half-sister ships of the Tsesarevich class were commissioned from and built by the French and as such inherited many traits of French naval design at that time, particularly the pronounced tumblehome (the inward curve between the hull & the superstructure). Likewise, the modern Japanese battleships that participated in the Battle of Tsushima had been commissioned from and built by British shipyards and as such resembled British pre-dreadnought practices. So in a way, Tsushima was also a battle between the British and the French in terms of warship design.
However, as naval historian Anthony Preston notes in his book "The World's Worst Warships", this very tumblehome practice resulted in the Russian battleships being very unstable and more vulnerable to capsizing due to damage to the superstructure, exactly the sort of damage the Japanese high explosive shells caused at Tsushima.
Incidentally, I have a hunch we may be seeing the Borodino in WoWs someday as a complement to the Japanese tier 2 battleship Mikasa. I think Borodino may have the edge over Mikasa in terms of secondary armament, having larger guns with longer range that are mounted in small turrets, but I wonder if the devs will also take into account the weakness of her tumblehome design.
Interesting video, I liked it. It would also be nice to spend a minute or two on the model--the model's stats, who made it, when it was made, etc.
Can you make a video about RHN Averof please? Thnaks for your time.
This is cool
Thumbs up, thank u
Excellent video! Any ironclads planned in the game in future updates?
Beautiful model I would take her as a ship in my World of Warships game if thier was a place for her. HONOR too those sailors.
nice story, nice ship .... not so much of a legend, but she did take a beating before she sunk, but still not so much of a legend :P .... however, i think it will be a rank III premium BB and she will have a really short fire range, but will still be a real brute in combat.
She's from the pre-dreadnought era, so she wouldn't be able to stand against dreadnoughts.
Is very cool the ships ; thas for the game .
If anyone wants more information about Tsushima, can only highly recomend you Frank Thiess book: Voyage of fogoten Men. It is an epic novel about the whole battle of tsushima, fromt he beginning to the end. The most impressive part is the description of the epic voyage from russia to Port Arthur. It also gives you an impression of the russia of the 1900s.
So when can we expect it in game? im guessing it will be tier 2 or 3.
+Alex Zuelke i feel like it would be a tier 2 cause its before a dreadnought but i dont know
Your tier 2 because it was a pre dreadnought it came before the dreadnought which was launched in 1906 which made all pre dreadnoughts obsolete.
Add. This. Now. I. Want. Now.
So...will this ship be added to the game?
Bring the Borodino in the game as a tier 2 for Mikasa to fight. Please.
They had a war of 1812 too?
Lovely to know about the next to non-existent Russian Navy. Now how about some stories about the Royal Navy huh?
Jingles can tell you some
+TheJammeyD how about next year? Since Royal Navy were confirm to released at somewhere 2016 or 2017.
Russian ship made in Germany? Dam Krauts know how to make stuff...
No, built in France using armour made in Germany.
ehh re-upload?
+Rex1987 yep
what a sad storie
So if Knyaz Suvorov was a pre-Dreadnought battleship why is it at tier III in the game? All other tier III BB’s are Dreadnoughts. Plus the “real” Suvorov looks nothing like the ship in the game. It should be smaller and look more like mikasa with only two main turrets, which most pre-Dreadnoughts had at the time.
Kruppstahl FTW
Линкоры типа «Бородино» - отличные корабли. Я японец, но думаю, что да.
Первая мировая война Слава доказывает это.
Условия боя были слишком неблагоприятными для работоспособности корабля.
И русские офицеры и моряки были храбрыми.
Add it to the premium shop
u,u subtitles pls
all that and still they lost the battle
Just like old Russia to take something as badass as this ship and hinder its capabilities due to old technology XD (Coal-powered engine, storing the coal)
All the way through World War I, most ships still used coal, or at least a mix of coal and oil.
Can we have it as a Premium BB.
Yes :D
MAKE IT PREMIUM TIER 2 SHIP TO AGAINST MIKASA
So your a hero for failing to invade a zone?
look phly
Sorry but Heroism? Sounds more like lemmings...they were critically damaged and turned around to fight an unnecessary battle they weren't going to win when they could have instead headed to a safe port for at least some repairs and resupplying since they lost two ships. Heroism is when you take a destroyer escort into a battleship melee to protect escort carriers because the enemy mistook your task force for a battle group. What destroyer am I describing? Samuel B Roberts? Maybe yall could do research on that crew before claiming that this lemming mentality is heroic.
+jihadthat777 They turned and fought because those were their orders, it takes a lot of guts to willingly do what you know will kill you, so instead of insulting the spirits of the dead try and understand things that aren't about watching out for you only.
+jihadthat777 I'm inclined to agree that resuming the battle when two capital ships had already been lost and the rest of the fleet were badly damaged was a poor decision, but it's important to remember that for the Russian fleet, there was no safe port they could retreat to. That was the whole point of the Russians steaming their Baltic Fleet all the way from St. Petersburg to the Pacific: To reach Vladivostok and launch offensives against the Japanese Navy from there. The only other Russian port in the area, Port Arthur, had already been lost to the Japanese after the Battle of the Yellow Sea the previous year. Also factor in that the fleet was perilously low on coal by the time they'd reached the Pacific, that the crews of many ships had already attempted mutinies throughout the voyage, and that several ships in the fleet were barely seaworthy when they'd left Russia some 2 months before and their condition had only deteriorated. They had no choice but to break through the Straits of Tsushima and reach Vladivostok. So it's not so much that they were being lemmings, nor them being heroes; they were being desperate and left with no other choice.
NillocsKeep
Bruh did you even read what I said? Go look up the Sammy B a god dam tug boat going against behemoths knowing they likely wouldn't survive.
jihadthat777 That's the thing though; in a way, the Russian colonial possessions in Manchuria and Korea effectively *were* an island; on the one side, the Pacific Ocean, but on the other side, the unending, uninhabitable wastes of Siberia. Technically, the Trans-Siberian Railway had been completed in 1903, but in its initial state it was so badly built that trains could only use it at a top speed of 15mph. 15mph + over 6,000 miles + single track, meaning everything can only move effectively one way + Japanese sabotage = damn near impossible to bring in sufficient land army strength to turn the tide of battle. As for why they bothered with naval action at all, 1. That was the whole point of the war in the first place: Securing a warm water naval base at Port Arthur with which to expand Russian influence in the Pacific, and 2. It was the most effective defense against the Japanese, who *are* an island nation, and who had to ship all of their men & material to Korea by sea. Destroy the Japanese Navy, cut off Korean ports, blockade the shipping lanes between Japan & Korea, and Japan loses the war. That (I presume at least) was the Russian mentality.
One more note on "why the Russian ships couldn't retire to an allied port or repair at sea." There were no allied ports for the Russians to get to; the only nations they could reach after the battle were Japan (their enemy), Korea (occupied by the Japanese), and China (who was neutral but really pissed off at the Russians). They had nowhere to go but to try for Vladivostok. And patching their ships up at sea wouldn't have made much difference anyway. If you're referring to the Russians making port on their way to Tsushima, that also wasn't an option since basically the rest of the world was against them; the British were so pissed about Russia attacking their ally (Japan & Britain had signed an alliance in 1902), and for the Russian fleet attacking a group of British fishing boats for... apparently no reason, that they forbid the Russian fleet from using the Suez Canal, ergo why they needed to go around South Africa. In short, repairing at an allied port wasn't possible because there were no allied ports to be found, but the fleet was needed in the Pacific to cut off Japanese supply lines. So it was Vladivostok or bust, with the idea being for them to slip through the Tsushima Straits while he Japanese weren't looking, under cover of night if possible, but mainly to reach Vladivostok before the coal ran out or the crews mutinied again.
+jihadthat777 The russian command and naval tactics were very poor at the time. You should read Frank Thiess Voyage of forgoten men, he goes into detail why the russan high command was so bad,.
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UGH! Please Wargaming, these over dubbed videos are really poor.
+Bfaxi1 yeah...and that desperate effort of the commentator to pronounce borodino is really painful
Lol at this time America had the South Carolina