Sharpening Stone Comparison - Imanishi, Naniwa Pro, Shapton Glass
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Knife used - Kershaw Crown
Steel type - 8cr13mov
Stones used -
Shapton Glass - 500 grit
Naniwa Pro - 400 grit
Imanishi Latte - 400 grit
Measuring the angles, they all came out around 20º. Not quite as low as I would like, but I just went with what felt natural.
As you can tell from the video, sharpening on the Edge Pro stones freehand, can create problems of it's own. The size is very restricting, especially when accustomed to full stones. It still did it's job very well, and cut the steel, with no problems. There is almost no load up. The stone has a smooth feel. Feedback is excellent, and you can tell from the feel and sound, when your angle is incorrect.
The Naniwa Pro is among the best lower grit stones on the market. That is obviously my own opinion, but I would put it against any stone in it's grit range, and never feel outmatched. It is a hard stone, though it has a creamy feeling. Feedback on it is excellent, and almost no load up. This stone can be deceptive, because it has such a smooth feel. It removes steel as quickly as any other 400 grit, but it's difficult to estimate, because the feedback fools you. Constant monitoring is imperative with this one.
Finally, the Imanishi Latte, has a completely different feeling. Right away the stone felt much harder, and more aggressive, than the other two. It seems as if it cut just a little faster, as well. The feedback on it was excellent. It can load up, if you are not applying water regularly. That hasn't seemed to slow down the performance in use, but time will tell, as it has a habit of doing. I stated in the video, there is a scratchy feeling when you sharpen on this one. It is very reminiscent of the Nubatama Ume 1 and 2k stones.
My final thoughts on all these stones was summed up in the video. However, my preferences have me favoring the Imanishi . I prefer the feedback, and speed, this stone provides. It does require soaking which, if in a hurry, can be a detriment. Otherwise, it is everything I want in a sharpening stone. It didn't have the keenest edge, but the differences are so small, I seriously think, only the pickiest of observers, would notice the difference.
Very interesting because I have the Imanishi and was curious what you thought. It really does give you excellent feedback; I'm still learning to interpret that but of all the stones I've used it really did help the most telling me where I was with the bevel. I have the Imanishi pink brick 220 too, and it's great for really removing metal, but I think I'm going to use the 400 as much as possible to reset a bevel.
I really like the imanishi stones ive tried. 400, and 1k/6k combo.
I’ve paused the video and brought the popcorn.👍
🤣 I’m not that entertaining but cheers 🍻
getting excited for my chosera 400, and most of knives are not high carbide steels lol. I think this would compensate my needs when I'm ready to purchase supersteel knives
Naniwa pro works on most super steels, but it’s not the best candidate.
This video answered my question about the shapton glass lol clever idea getting the edgepro version!
I'd say shop around for em if you go that route. There are a few spots that sell the EPA version, at almost the same price as the full sized stones! CKTG has em reasonably priced, and that is where I usually pick em up at, but I have seen em even cheaper on Ebay.
Interesting video. I think I'll pick up a set of the edge pro shaptons and give them a try.
The 220 sheds grit pretty quickly but all the others are nice and hard. I did a full vid for davetogo. It is way back in my vids if you wanna check em out. For the price, and stone testing, the epa cut stones are a nice solution 👍
Thanks for the video.. Good comparison.
I do have a question Shapton pro 2k vs Nan/pro/2k? I bought a Shapton pro 2k and I didn't like it, because it loaded fast and felt weird while sharpening. Anyways I bought it for bevel setting on straight razors, the reason I bought it was because I was told it was on par with the Chosera 1k, and Chosera 1k is known for the benchmark for setting bevels on straight razors, so I purchased the Shapton pro because the price. The Shapton pro stone cuts way too deep, meaning the stria that it yields will show up in higher grits and will not go away, so basically the pros don't play well with other stones..
I’ve done plenty of razors and knives with em. Even have a video doing a Japanese razor on here with em. Everyone has thier own preferences though. Good that we have variety👌
@@Jef which is finer a Nan/2kpro or Shapton pro 2k?
Cracking is a concern too?
There is a micron/grit chart floating around that tells you that info. It has been my experience (anecdotal) that naniwa tend to be finer than Shapton. However, Naniwa are notorious for cracking. I’ve never experienced that with my Shapton.
@@Jef Yeap that is what I am afraid of.. Its weird how some have issues with cracking and others do not?? I dunno...
The Imanashi looks like it cuts slower judging by the amount of black steel on the stone.
I couldn't say with confidence, if stone A is slower than B. However, it 'felt' more aggressive. You are welcome to draw your own conclusions, but I will say the amount of steel the Imanashi had to grind, was greater than the others. That is evidenced by the base of the choil, where the flair started to develop.
Hi Jef ! wich stones would you advice for hard steels like 20cv, s110v, M4 ? Naniwa pro or shapton glass HR ?
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Naniwa it is then,is there a big price difference between all three,and the reason I think the naniwa is feed back and I need to learn that.you are not going to believe this I have just had a knock on my door and a package delivered from some bloke called Jeff Jewel in America.bye.
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Where did you get the stone holder?
You can find them just about anywhere that sells sharpening stones. I got this one from chef knives to go
www.chefknivestogo.com/nastho.html
After seeing this il just stick with my naniwa professional 400 hehe to bad they cant make as hard n good feeling stone in say 220 a naniwa pro 150 or 220 would be nice as damn hard n good feeling as the 400 hehe
I’m with ya there. Naniwa has a 220 but itnis in their traditional line. I haven’t tried on as I quit buying their stuff. For me, i’ll stick with my 120 shapton 😁👌
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