Knife Sharpening - Spyderco Para 3
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2023
- Knife Used
Spyderco Para 3
Steel type
CPM S30V
Stones Used
Venev Diamond stone - 160/125 micron - 100 grit
Venev Diamond stone - 100/80 micron - 120 grit
Venev Diamond stone - 20/14 micron - 700 grit
Venev Diamond stone - 7/5 micron - 2500 grit
Venev Diamond stone - 3/2 micron - 5000 grit
DLT XL Leather Strop with StropBros White compound
Let me know how you guys like the angle. Do you prefer the top down angle as I used in previous videos, or something like this, where the camera is pointed towards the stone? I can never decide which is better.
Excellent as always Jef. I learn something new
or recapture things I forgot by watching and
listening to you. You are a great asset to the
knife sharpening community. Thank you
for your contributions!
I appreciate that! Glad my videos are still relevant 😁👍
@@Jef You are very welcome.
So good to see these videos back! I feel like I grew up sharpening with these CZcamsrs! Especially Jef!
😂 awesome 🤘
And he monetized his videos! Atleast we can also support him while watching and learning from his videos
Glad you made a new video, Jef!
More to come!
Great to see you making content again!!
Thank you for sharing! 👍
👊 more to come
Hey Jef glad to see you behind the stone. hope ur well Ole boy!!
Thanks 🙏 ive been putting off making videos for awhile. Need to get back in the swing
Glad to see a new video, and hear that you're doing well. My best regards to Connie, I had a very similar injury, and surgery years ago, not fun at all!
Thanks for dropping in! She says thank you as well. What happened with your injury? Did you tear your acl? I've never had a knee injury, personally, so seeing what she is going through, is pretty rough.
@Jef Jewell tore the ACL, and Meniscus, as well as cracked the under side of my patella ( knee cap ), so they also had to fill in the crack/resurface it. I was on crutches, and not aloud to put any pressure on that leg for about 3 or 4 months, but that was mostly because of having to wait on the bone to heal. For me, the pain was minimal after the first couple of weeks or so, except for the occasional flair up during healing, but that first week or two sucked.
It’s oddly relaxing watching you sharpen the knife 😊 I’m getting hypnotized LoL
I know. I used to fall asleep to youtube sharpening videos when i started. It is a very relaxing, zen kinda state.
Nice to see a new video. Hope Connie heals well. I just checked my Venev plates. Mine are an older set that I've used quite a bit. There's no sign of cracking or separation. Enjoyed the video, thanks for posting.
Thanks James 🙏
Mine are an older set too. Roman just commented that the dragon plates were glued which didnt turn out well. The other version, phoenix, were settled in during the manufacture process and ‘baked’ into the plating. Thinner layer of abrasive but no worries of what i am experiencing. Plus, they are cheaper. I’ll be looking into those if mine cracks on me.
Jeff I enjoy your videos, hope you are well and happy. I trust you are doing double duty nursing for connie😊😊
Thanks! Connie is on the mend now. Shes limping around without the brace, and trying to get her muscles back in line. Still weeks of therapy left, but she on the road to recovery 👏👏👏
Really enjoy your videos Jef. I've used them to help me out a lot. Hope the wife gets better soon!
Thanks for the kind words! She is getting there. Still in phys therapy but getting stronger
Welcome back Jef. Another great video, with an amazing Bess result, really impressive job. My Veneve Dragons are holding up so far, 2 or 3 sharpenings a week for 14 months, fingers crossed. Thanks for keeping up the lessons, they are a great help. Cheers.
I don't know why mine are pulling away from the steel. Hopefully when they finally give up the glue, they don't crack. That's my biggest concern. I need to try and get some 3m inside there but the gap isn't wide enough yet to really get good adhesion.
Thanks for dropping in :D I've been slacking on videos lately. Gonna try to get back into the swing. My video setup here doesn't take quite as long as at the house. Lighting there was deplorable, so I had to set up several lamps every time I recorded.
Great work as always. Got me wanting to break out the stones today!
Rock on!
Love your vids keep up good work. Hope you are spoiling Connie.😊
Oh she is forever spoiled lol. Got a mini review/sharpening i'll be posting later today. Thanks for watching!
Missed ya mate. Good to see you are back. The edge turned out great mate.
How do you like the gritomatics theese days?
Thanks bro!
Gritomatic remain among my favorites for high wear steel. I've seen some others degrading them recently, but a few of those, are selling their own products. So why wouldn't they, to promote their own product? Anyways, still my go to set, but in this particular instance, I wanted to get a bit more shine, than they are capable of.
@@Jef i see that mate and it looks good.
Hey Jef!
I assume you've been using Venev Dragon with thicker layer of abrasives and despite the fact dragon is more pricy than Phoenix, it is glued to aluminium base, in the Phoenix series wich is cheaper and has thinner abrasive layer, layer is settled during manufacturing process, kind of baked with that plate together as far as I understand.
Imo that's why you have this issue. Glue was bad.
Thanks a lot for your video, try to post something on a regular basis, we were missing you and your sharpenings. Say best wishes to your wife and may she get healthy!
Greetings from Ukraine,
Roman
Thanks for the info roman! If this one comes unseated, and i cant fix it, ill look into grabbing the phoenix set. Sounds like a better deal all around.
Great work as usual. How long have you had that Atoma? My 400 hasn't seen but so much use, but it seems like it could last a long long time
Years. At this point, maybe 10? I never really used it in a regular rotation. Just flattening here and there, and occasional sharpening. Seen its fair share but i believe there is plenty of life left, not to warrant replacement. Yet.
@@Jef cool thanks for responding
I'm in Rainbow City AL I've got a few "knife" friends in your area
Awesome! You ever make it around to st nicks knives/winter timber outdoors?
Hey Jef! I have quite a few high carbon steels that I want to learn to sharpen. I was thinking about getting some Gritomatic stones to accommodate my knives, but they are a bit pricey for my liking. Are there any other stones that you may recommend for high carbon steels that are a bit cheaper? Also, do you have any beginner tips to technique / consistent angles / pressure?
Knife Sharpening - Basic Technique and Demonstration
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Sharpening stones I recommend
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How do you hold consistency, in knife sharpening?
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You don’t need a full set of stones to accomplish a sharp knife. A decent coarse stone, and a 1k should be just fine, for getting by. Perhaps even consider a Dmt/Atoma diamond plate (coarse), paired with a spyderco medium ceramic. Not my favorite stuff, but they stay flat forever, handle just about any steel, and require very little maintenance. For starting out, they are worth looking at. The diamond plates come in different sizes and prices, so check a few vender sites, if you go that route. Otherwise, my video of recommended stones is where i would point you.
Hey Jef!
Thanks for this video.
In your videos you always say the sic stones are your stones of choice. I've tried to buy a set of them, but there are only 1k and 2.5k left. I don't want to spend money on venev diamonds. So my question is: what japanese stones you can recommend for sharpening vanadium steels and powder metal steels that we have on folding knives nowadays?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
I'd say wait for the Gritomatic sic stones to come in stock. You can email them, and they tend to respond fairly quickly. They may not have an exact eta, but they can give you a ball park.
Otherwise, The Sigma Select stones that are sold as sic are ok. They do work, and I have a video or two showing them off. Of course I only 2 of em. I believe they are the 1 and 3k. I also have an 8k sic stone from Suehiro.
Other than that, Venev and the like, are your best bets. Most Japanese water stones can cut high carbide steels, but they aren't the best choice.
The way Cliff Stamp described it to me was, if the stone sheds abrasive, and you can see a noticeable difference in sharpness, then it should be fine, for everyday cutting. If you are examining it under an electron microscope, with high performance testing, then look to diamonds as your abrasive.
The idea was basically stated that, as long as the stone is shedding abrasive, new cutting material is constantly exposed. How much of any of it is truth, I couldn't say. I don't do high performance testing, and I could care less what an electron microscope is showing. If it cuts for me in my daily tasks, that is all I ask for.
Hope that helps
I have been starting to look for the reflection to disappear instead of feeling for a burr the last few days and have been getting a lot better edges and it’s faster.
Yea i show in my tutorial how to do that for beginners. I prefer burr
@@Jef I like burr but I have a hard time getting rid of it off the stone doing this method I form a smaller burr and can get rid of it a lot easier
Right on. Whatever works is what ya should go with 👍. Took me awhile to learn how to remove the burr. Micro burrs used to be a serious headache. Like everything, the more ya do it, the easier it gets.
Not sure if you've ever tried skipping a bunch of grits, but I've had good results going from the Atoma 140 straight to the Atoma 1200, followed by a quick strop. That said, it's nowhere near as polished an edge as this progression.
Yea i do it often with my water stones. I need to play around with these more often to see what i can get away with 😁
I recomend stroppy stuff 1 micron diamond compound it takes a edge to the next Level
I've used all his grits, and do not get the results I want. He and I have discussed it several times. Not sure if it is just the aggressiveness in his compunds, or my own fault, is the culprit. I've tried many things to remedy it. Lowering my angle, uses fewer passes, using lighter passes, using wood, using leather, using nano cloth, using copy paper. Nothing works better, than white compound, for me. Not to mention, it is way cheaper, and my results don't suffer.
Do you strop to a number? If so, what do you recommend? Would you do the same number of strips for a Wharncliffe blade as any type of drop, clip point? I do a total of 60; 30 per side. I may have already asked this, but what strops do you use?
Stropping can be used as a crutch to obtain sharpness at the expense of an obtuse edge. I try to do what feels right but it basically comes out to approx 10 passes per side. I use the dlt xl leather strop w/ white compound from strop bros. I do the same thing on all blades.
@@Jef thanks
Jef I’d talk to Constantine at gritomatic about your stone pull away, or take some slow setting apoxy in the crack work it in with dental floss and clamp in. First choice would be to contact gritomatic. I probably have a hundred sharpenings on my stones with no evidence of wear other than the occasional small gouge.
He actually replied in this comment section about it. Apparently, the thicker version abrasive, got glue, which results in what ive shown. The cheaper alternatives, with leas abrasive, was baked into the actual aluminum plate. Stronger bond. If it does pull away and cracks on me, i will just order the other set.
I like to use a small round diamond file to make a sharpening notch on Spyderco and Buck blades. Of course, if I was sharpening someone else's knife I would ask permission first.
Same here. I prefer the notch myself 👍
I actually prefer to not have a sharpening notch/choil. I'll add them if asked by a customer, but I like not having that potential hang-up. Like they say, "different strokes for different folks" lol
My bad I misunderstood. I find it mainly gets hung up on cardboard. Which i rarely cut with my knife. 😁
As expensive as those venev stones are, that shouldn't be happening.
Spyderco sharpening notch is sucks
I disagree but to each their own :)